The problem every club has atm is Pep.
Under Ferguson Utd essentially disregarded the EPL, Wenger used to field really weakened sides as did Mourinho. Even the FA Cup was at times used to blood new players.
Pep goes out to win everything! It's actually quite a refreshing attitude but his City team are so damn good that it makes it much harder!
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 58 minutes ago
I don't think Spurs need to win something, they just need to keep improving year on year. If they do that then sooner or later the trophies will come because you're already an excellent side.
Domestic trophies are a little bit of a lottery. City won the FA Cup last season by playing Rotherham, Burnley, Newport, Swansea, Brighton and Watford. They won the EPL by playing Oxford, Fulham, Leicester, Burton and Chelsea.
Granted City are the best team in England so stand a decent chance of beating anyone they face but the above are kind draws by anyone's standards.
To win the EPL last season Spurs would have had to beat Watford, West Ham, Arsenal, Chelsea and City.
My point is you need a bit of luck and personally I wouldn't judge a season on whether you get that bit of luck. Judge it on team progression.
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Yeh I agree City had draws in both the domestic cups that most teams could only dream of Spurs played Prem sides in every round of the League Cup and not only they they were all local derbies, which makes it doubly difficult.
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 28 minutes ago
I'd like to win something but I dont think domestic cups are a great yardstick
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They may not be a great yardstick, but they are 50 per cent of the trophies on offer, and if you also factor in that Spurs have never won the CL and their last title was 59 years back, then beggars cannot be choosers. You need to walk before you run.
Yep, time is now to start winning trophies otherwise this team are going to go down in history as the best side that never won anything. Winning trophies breeds success and even if we were to win a league cup, it would get the players hungry to achieve more next season. It would get the trophy monkey off the back. Every year we go without winning anything is more fuel added to show can’t win at the final hurdle. Time for this group of players to stop this rot and start to win something. We are not winning the CL or the league, so right now the FA cup or league cup is our best bet.
comment by Phe'ndombele (U20037)
posted 6 hours, 19 minutes ago
our defence is a mess now tbh. unacceptable scenario considering we had the best defence i personally have seen at spurs a few seasons ago. Toby and Verts futures up in the air is a joke, they should be still storming it with their formidable partnership each week.
spurs need a leader in their side though if they want a trophy, ideally this would be in the form of a midfielder or CB. some players really need to step up and start organising and motivating the team.
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Been saying this since Lloris got the nod, it would really help, but others on here obviously still puppies that say it makes no difference
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posted on 23/8/19
The problem every club has atm is Pep.
Under Ferguson Utd essentially disregarded the EPL, Wenger used to field really weakened sides as did Mourinho. Even the FA Cup was at times used to blood new players.
Pep goes out to win everything! It's actually quite a refreshing attitude but his City team are so damn good that it makes it much harder!
posted on 23/8/19
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 58 minutes ago
I don't think Spurs need to win something, they just need to keep improving year on year. If they do that then sooner or later the trophies will come because you're already an excellent side.
Domestic trophies are a little bit of a lottery. City won the FA Cup last season by playing Rotherham, Burnley, Newport, Swansea, Brighton and Watford. They won the EPL by playing Oxford, Fulham, Leicester, Burton and Chelsea.
Granted City are the best team in England so stand a decent chance of beating anyone they face but the above are kind draws by anyone's standards.
To win the EPL last season Spurs would have had to beat Watford, West Ham, Arsenal, Chelsea and City.
My point is you need a bit of luck and personally I wouldn't judge a season on whether you get that bit of luck. Judge it on team progression.
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Yeh I agree City had draws in both the domestic cups that most teams could only dream of Spurs played Prem sides in every round of the League Cup and not only they they were all local derbies, which makes it doubly difficult.
posted on 23/8/19
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 28 minutes ago
I'd like to win something but I dont think domestic cups are a great yardstick
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They may not be a great yardstick, but they are 50 per cent of the trophies on offer, and if you also factor in that Spurs have never won the CL and their last title was 59 years back, then beggars cannot be choosers. You need to walk before you run.
posted on 23/8/19
Yep, time is now to start winning trophies otherwise this team are going to go down in history as the best side that never won anything. Winning trophies breeds success and even if we were to win a league cup, it would get the players hungry to achieve more next season. It would get the trophy monkey off the back. Every year we go without winning anything is more fuel added to show can’t win at the final hurdle. Time for this group of players to stop this rot and start to win something. We are not winning the CL or the league, so right now the FA cup or league cup is our best bet.
posted on 23/8/19
comment by Phe'ndombele (U20037)
posted 6 hours, 19 minutes ago
our defence is a mess now tbh. unacceptable scenario considering we had the best defence i personally have seen at spurs a few seasons ago. Toby and Verts futures up in the air is a joke, they should be still storming it with their formidable partnership each week.
spurs need a leader in their side though if they want a trophy, ideally this would be in the form of a midfielder or CB. some players really need to step up and start organising and motivating the team.
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Been saying this since Lloris got the nod, it would really help, but others on here obviously still puppies that say it makes no difference
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