Pepe wasnt that great at AFCON either.
He needs to pull his weight and score some goals
Ozil hasnt done anything against any club.
Ceballos I have been impressed with.
Why take him off v Watford ?
Happy with Willock so far
Luiz - Understand why Lampard was quite keen for him to go.
Guendozi- He looks like Luiz and isnt really that good.
The defence - Rubbish
Emery - Fail to get top 4 then out
In the unlikely event we win the FA or League Cup but fail to get Top 4 he will get another season
Its funny that we never named he day when we finish above you. Clearly means more to you than us. Small time really.
Özil? He had a good game. To sub him and Ceballos when we need to keep the ball in midfield is a mystery to me.
Torreira? Torreira when coming on not exactly put in a good performance. Torreira should play as a DM in front of the defense and concentrate on that only. Instead he is playing as an advanced midfielder.
Agree on Sokratis. There is a reason why Dortmund let him go so easily.
I’d be inclined to drop sokratis or luiz for chambers. They’re both failing to state why they should play. Chambers did well in his only appearance, he deserves an other chance. Hopefully having holding back will put pressure on sokratis and luiz
Midfield is a big issue as well though. So often we let opposition run free at our defence, which causes the defenders to make desperate challenges. We allow so much space in front of our box, and there’s always huge gaps between defence and midfield when we defend. Xhaka is meant to protect them, but is too slow to get amongst the attackers. Guen could do it better, but is often further up the pitch. Torreira is capable but is weirdly always played higher up. Emery needs to get over the xhaka obsession. We have to try Torreira deep, with guen who can collect the ball from him and drive/ distribute forward.
On the exam selection - we are at bare bones level. Do you really think Willock and Nelson would have made a difference?
On Torreira - was on international duty in South America, got injured in first game and missed second. Started vs Spurs after missing pre-season due to international duty as well.
On Sokratis - CB are all about partnerships, and I don't think we have the right balance between the two we play. Holding should be back on Thursday, let's see how he does.
On Pepe - needs time to settle. Also been given different roles because of Lacas fitness issues. Had no pre-season so still playing catch up. In an ideal world he would still be coming off the bench, but had to be rushed into the team.
We had 5 players I would start either out injured or, in LTs case, not fit to start. That would restrict any managers options.
Ozil should have been the first player subbed, for LT, though. Taking Ceballos off looked a poor decision at the time, more so by the end.
comment by Desperate Dier-Bring me Ndombele (U6468)
posted 3 hours, 6 minutes ago
Its funny that we never named he day when we finish above you. Clearly means more to you than us. Small time really.
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That's because it's been an extremely rare occurrence.
In my lifetime it's only starting to happen in the last 3 years.
30 years of my life Arsenal have been above Tottenham
" we have shown ourselves as a team who cannot be trusted to kill a game off"
I think this is where you're (the club) going wrong. You don't need to score more goals at 2-0, you need to not concede them.
comment by Desperate Dier-Bring me Ndombele (U6468)
posted 4 hours, 26 minutes ago
Its funny that we never named he day when we finish above you. Clearly means more to you than us. Small time really.
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And yet you're the one curtain-twitching on an Arsenal post. Go figure.
comment by Desperate Dier-Bring me Ndombele (U6468)
posted 4 hours, 46 minutes ago
Its funny that we never named he day when we finish above you. Clearly means more to you than us. Small time really.
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That'll be because you've not done it enough to get so bored with doing it, you need too make up a name to relieve the manotany of it.
People need to chill. 5 games in and missing half the starting lineup, means nobody should be expecting much better league position wise.
It's plain deluded to think we'd be at all settled or truly competitive missing half the team. As deluded is expecting a reportedly exhausted Pepe to hero debut and bang away a bunch of goals instantly proving his price tag.
People on here always telling me I'M deluded or overly optimistic. Yet here eople are, moaning that we're not looking like contenders with half a team and Pepe never had a wet dream start too the PL. Seems to me that the only delusion is that of the people complaining. Current squad state of affairs means nobody should have been expecting those things.
Not saying things don't need changing, nor that the Watford game wasn't dire. Just that people need to appreciate, league position is about what it should be, given the club state. Anyone overly mad, writing people off, is only really doing so due to their own deluded expectations for the first 10 games. We just need to stay in touch until the team is fit/settled. We're doing that for now. So chill.
I’m willing to give Unai a proper run with a fully fit 11. I am baffled as to why he keeps trust in the players that let us down, it’s very Wenger in his final yrs. Last season he was making positive changes and making a point to players like Ozil that sloppiness won’t do. I don’t know whether it’s because he’s got his hands tied with injuries but constantly playing Xhaka and making him captain is very alarming. With players now returning it will be interesting to see who he goes with from now on.
"I’m willing to give Unai a proper run with a fully fit 11.."
I think the club should seriously look at replacing him if things are this chaotic after 19 games. After the outlay, the fact that we have a very good team on paper, the capitulations in the league and Europa at the end of last season meaning losing out on CL, I don't think this club should wait till the end of the season if things do not look like they're improving.
Seems like Arsenal FC has trouble signing the type of players who will really bust their asses for the team?
WHU yesterday, with 10 men, looked much better than Arsenal did on Sunday with 11. >
I see a lot of what you said as being the symptoms of the problems we have, not the problems themselves. Even Mustafi was good but once the problems we still have came along he (and a lot of other players since) couldnt adapt to make up for them.
Our biggest problem is Xhaka. He is the biggest influence on the team and that influence is to slow us down, both in attack and defence. We are playing the ball out from the back too slowly. we are too slow to get back and defend Both of these allow the opposition to press and overrun us. It makes attacking harder as we dont have the players to break down an organised defence like City can. We also leak a lot more goals because we cant cope in midfield.
comment by Arsenal's tree fella's -O'zil, O'bameyang and Mick O'Tarian (U16927)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
I see a lot of what you said as being the symptoms of the problems we have, not the problems themselves. Even Mustafi was good but once the problems we still have came along he (and a lot of other players since) couldnt adapt to make up for them.
Our biggest problem is Xhaka. He is the biggest influence on the team and that influence is to slow us down, both in attack and defence. We are playing the ball out from the back too slowly. we are too slow to get back and defend Both of these allow the opposition to press and overrun us. It makes attacking harder as we dont have the players to break down an organised defence like City can. We also leak a lot more goals because we cant cope in midfield.
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If we're going to talk about targeting the problem and not the symptoms, Arsenal's biggest problem right now is Unai Emery. How the players play, and indeed WHICH players play, is directed by the manager / coach. Sure every team goes through slumps but some of the things we've seen go beyond poor decision making on the field, whether you think a season and a bit is not enough or not.
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 17 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Arsenal's tree fella's -O'zil, O'bameyang and Mick O'Tarian (U16927)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
I see a lot of what you said as being the symptoms of the problems we have, not the problems themselves. Even Mustafi was good but once the problems we still have came along he (and a lot of other players since) couldnt adapt to make up for them.
Our biggest problem is Xhaka. He is the biggest influence on the team and that influence is to slow us down, both in attack and defence. We are playing the ball out from the back too slowly. we are too slow to get back and defend Both of these allow the opposition to press and overrun us. It makes attacking harder as we dont have the players to break down an organised defence like City can. We also leak a lot more goals because we cant cope in midfield.
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If we're going to talk about targeting the problem and not the symptoms, Arsenal's biggest problem right now is Unai Emery. How the players play, and indeed WHICH players play, is directed by the manager / coach. Sure every team goes through slumps but some of the things we've seen go beyond poor decision making on the field, whether you think a season and a bit is not enough or not.
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Agree with this. Any problems posed by Xhaka are finite in their effect. But those caused by Emery are much deeper, because he picks the team, chooses the tactics and makes the decisions. And to be honest, despite his penalty giveaway against Spurs, I don't think Xhaka is the biggest problem of our players. Both of our centre halves (especially Sokratis) have been horrendous, and Emery seems determined to select Özil now that he's available, despite the fact that it destabilises the midfield, and that Ceballos does the same job and does it better.
I hope this idiotic practice of playing the ball from goal kicks is knocked off. We don't have the skilled defenders to do it right. If lessons are not learned, we will haemorrage more goals and my TV will end up with a boot-shaped hole through it.
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posted on 17/9/19
Pepe wasnt that great at AFCON either.
He needs to pull his weight and score some goals
Ozil hasnt done anything against any club.
Ceballos I have been impressed with.
Why take him off v Watford ?
Happy with Willock so far
Luiz - Understand why Lampard was quite keen for him to go.
Guendozi- He looks like Luiz and isnt really that good.
The defence - Rubbish
Emery - Fail to get top 4 then out
In the unlikely event we win the FA or League Cup but fail to get Top 4 he will get another season
posted on 17/9/19
Its funny that we never named he day when we finish above you. Clearly means more to you than us. Small time really.
posted on 17/9/19
Özil? He had a good game. To sub him and Ceballos when we need to keep the ball in midfield is a mystery to me.
Torreira? Torreira when coming on not exactly put in a good performance. Torreira should play as a DM in front of the defense and concentrate on that only. Instead he is playing as an advanced midfielder.
Agree on Sokratis. There is a reason why Dortmund let him go so easily.
posted on 17/9/19
I’d be inclined to drop sokratis or luiz for chambers. They’re both failing to state why they should play. Chambers did well in his only appearance, he deserves an other chance. Hopefully having holding back will put pressure on sokratis and luiz
Midfield is a big issue as well though. So often we let opposition run free at our defence, which causes the defenders to make desperate challenges. We allow so much space in front of our box, and there’s always huge gaps between defence and midfield when we defend. Xhaka is meant to protect them, but is too slow to get amongst the attackers. Guen could do it better, but is often further up the pitch. Torreira is capable but is weirdly always played higher up. Emery needs to get over the xhaka obsession. We have to try Torreira deep, with guen who can collect the ball from him and drive/ distribute forward.
posted on 17/9/19
Spot on!
posted on 17/9/19
On the exam selection - we are at bare bones level. Do you really think Willock and Nelson would have made a difference?
On Torreira - was on international duty in South America, got injured in first game and missed second. Started vs Spurs after missing pre-season due to international duty as well.
On Sokratis - CB are all about partnerships, and I don't think we have the right balance between the two we play. Holding should be back on Thursday, let's see how he does.
On Pepe - needs time to settle. Also been given different roles because of Lacas fitness issues. Had no pre-season so still playing catch up. In an ideal world he would still be coming off the bench, but had to be rushed into the team.
We had 5 players I would start either out injured or, in LTs case, not fit to start. That would restrict any managers options.
Ozil should have been the first player subbed, for LT, though. Taking Ceballos off looked a poor decision at the time, more so by the end.
posted on 17/9/19
Exam? Team.
posted on 17/9/19
comment by Desperate Dier-Bring me Ndombele (U6468)
posted 3 hours, 6 minutes ago
Its funny that we never named he day when we finish above you. Clearly means more to you than us. Small time really.
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That's because it's been an extremely rare occurrence.
In my lifetime it's only starting to happen in the last 3 years.
30 years of my life Arsenal have been above Tottenham
posted on 17/9/19
" we have shown ourselves as a team who cannot be trusted to kill a game off"
I think this is where you're (the club) going wrong. You don't need to score more goals at 2-0, you need to not concede them.
posted on 17/9/19
comment by Desperate Dier-Bring me Ndombele (U6468)
posted 4 hours, 26 minutes ago
Its funny that we never named he day when we finish above you. Clearly means more to you than us. Small time really.
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And yet you're the one curtain-twitching on an Arsenal post. Go figure.
posted on 17/9/19
comment by Desperate Dier-Bring me Ndombele (U6468)
posted 4 hours, 46 minutes ago
Its funny that we never named he day when we finish above you. Clearly means more to you than us. Small time really.
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That'll be because you've not done it enough to get so bored with doing it, you need too make up a name to relieve the manotany of it.
posted on 17/9/19
People need to chill. 5 games in and missing half the starting lineup, means nobody should be expecting much better league position wise.
It's plain deluded to think we'd be at all settled or truly competitive missing half the team. As deluded is expecting a reportedly exhausted Pepe to hero debut and bang away a bunch of goals instantly proving his price tag.
People on here always telling me I'M deluded or overly optimistic. Yet here eople are, moaning that we're not looking like contenders with half a team and Pepe never had a wet dream start too the PL. Seems to me that the only delusion is that of the people complaining. Current squad state of affairs means nobody should have been expecting those things.
Not saying things don't need changing, nor that the Watford game wasn't dire. Just that people need to appreciate, league position is about what it should be, given the club state. Anyone overly mad, writing people off, is only really doing so due to their own deluded expectations for the first 10 games. We just need to stay in touch until the team is fit/settled. We're doing that for now. So chill.
posted on 17/9/19
I’m willing to give Unai a proper run with a fully fit 11. I am baffled as to why he keeps trust in the players that let us down, it’s very Wenger in his final yrs. Last season he was making positive changes and making a point to players like Ozil that sloppiness won’t do. I don’t know whether it’s because he’s got his hands tied with injuries but constantly playing Xhaka and making him captain is very alarming. With players now returning it will be interesting to see who he goes with from now on.
posted on 17/9/19
"I’m willing to give Unai a proper run with a fully fit 11.."
I think the club should seriously look at replacing him if things are this chaotic after 19 games. After the outlay, the fact that we have a very good team on paper, the capitulations in the league and Europa at the end of last season meaning losing out on CL, I don't think this club should wait till the end of the season if things do not look like they're improving.
posted on 17/9/19
Seems like Arsenal FC has trouble signing the type of players who will really bust their asses for the team?
WHU yesterday, with 10 men, looked much better than Arsenal did on Sunday with 11. >
posted on 17/9/19
I see a lot of what you said as being the symptoms of the problems we have, not the problems themselves. Even Mustafi was good but once the problems we still have came along he (and a lot of other players since) couldnt adapt to make up for them.
Our biggest problem is Xhaka. He is the biggest influence on the team and that influence is to slow us down, both in attack and defence. We are playing the ball out from the back too slowly. we are too slow to get back and defend Both of these allow the opposition to press and overrun us. It makes attacking harder as we dont have the players to break down an organised defence like City can. We also leak a lot more goals because we cant cope in midfield.
posted on 17/9/19
comment by Arsenal's tree fella's -O'zil, O'bameyang and Mick O'Tarian (U16927)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
I see a lot of what you said as being the symptoms of the problems we have, not the problems themselves. Even Mustafi was good but once the problems we still have came along he (and a lot of other players since) couldnt adapt to make up for them.
Our biggest problem is Xhaka. He is the biggest influence on the team and that influence is to slow us down, both in attack and defence. We are playing the ball out from the back too slowly. we are too slow to get back and defend Both of these allow the opposition to press and overrun us. It makes attacking harder as we dont have the players to break down an organised defence like City can. We also leak a lot more goals because we cant cope in midfield.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If we're going to talk about targeting the problem and not the symptoms, Arsenal's biggest problem right now is Unai Emery. How the players play, and indeed WHICH players play, is directed by the manager / coach. Sure every team goes through slumps but some of the things we've seen go beyond poor decision making on the field, whether you think a season and a bit is not enough or not.
posted on 18/9/19
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 17 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Arsenal's tree fella's -O'zil, O'bameyang and Mick O'Tarian (U16927)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
I see a lot of what you said as being the symptoms of the problems we have, not the problems themselves. Even Mustafi was good but once the problems we still have came along he (and a lot of other players since) couldnt adapt to make up for them.
Our biggest problem is Xhaka. He is the biggest influence on the team and that influence is to slow us down, both in attack and defence. We are playing the ball out from the back too slowly. we are too slow to get back and defend Both of these allow the opposition to press and overrun us. It makes attacking harder as we dont have the players to break down an organised defence like City can. We also leak a lot more goals because we cant cope in midfield.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If we're going to talk about targeting the problem and not the symptoms, Arsenal's biggest problem right now is Unai Emery. How the players play, and indeed WHICH players play, is directed by the manager / coach. Sure every team goes through slumps but some of the things we've seen go beyond poor decision making on the field, whether you think a season and a bit is not enough or not.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree with this. Any problems posed by Xhaka are finite in their effect. But those caused by Emery are much deeper, because he picks the team, chooses the tactics and makes the decisions. And to be honest, despite his penalty giveaway against Spurs, I don't think Xhaka is the biggest problem of our players. Both of our centre halves (especially Sokratis) have been horrendous, and Emery seems determined to select Özil now that he's available, despite the fact that it destabilises the midfield, and that Ceballos does the same job and does it better.
I hope this idiotic practice of playing the ball from goal kicks is knocked off. We don't have the skilled defenders to do it right. If lessons are not learned, we will haemorrage more goals and my TV will end up with a boot-shaped hole through it.
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