How the actual fack is it not a clear and obvious error? That's why that term needs to go.

comment by 🏆🏆🏆Klopp of the Pops (Babel’s M... (U22043)
posted less than a minute ago
Midfield is the problem in games like this, they don’t create and score anywhere near enough.
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Nonsense.

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it's frustrating cos we best ourselves with poor decisions in good positions and two really poor errors.
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VVD was one, what was the other?
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fairly obvious what the two errors are.

even if you think it's no pen you can go watch the replays in cold light of day and see that our lot didn't even complain. there's 3 or 4 angles on that at this point.


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Only contact was when he was mid dive. Not sure what the argument is, it’s blatantly not a penalty.
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I've agreed he's jumped in but imo.robertsons arm position has swung it for ref.

it looks from all angles that the guy got to ball and Robertson didn't.

It's Europe, different rules set.

it is what it is. Robertson was on a yellow so couldnt protest but nobody else did either which never helps. a Henderson or vvd has to lean hard on ref there.

var made.nothing of it like last weekend. it's basically pointless now.


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The review is nothing to do with the ref, so what good would getting in his face do?

comment by TBone Steak Roysters (U3947)
posted 4 minutes ago
Look at this angle

https://twitter.com/lfc_tonks/status/1174066541291331585?s=21

Penalty

VAR
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There are genuinely people claiming that was a penalty

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comment by 🏆🏆🏆Klopp of the Pops (Babel’s M... (U22043)
posted less than a minute ago
Midfield is the problem in games like this, they don’t create and score anywhere near enough.
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Nonsense.
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VVD scored more goals than Wij, Fab, Keita and Hendo last season.

And who’s the creative spark in midfield against these stubborn well drilled sides who keep TAA and Robertson pushes back?

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comment by 🏆🏆🏆Klopp of the Pops (Babel’s M... (U22043)
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comment by 🏆🏆🏆Klopp of the Pops (Babel’s M... (U22043)
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Midfield is the problem in games like this, they don’t create and score anywhere near enough.
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Nonsense.
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VVD scored more goals than Wij, Fab, Keita and Hendo last season.

And who’s the creative spark in midfield against these stubborn well drilled sides who keep TAA and Robertson pushes back?


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So? What they did meant we won the CL and finished one point behind in the league. One game lost doesnt mean the midfield is the reason. Our midfield played well, better than Napoli's and yet we lost. Explain that.

comment by 🏆🏆🏆Klopp of the Pops (Babel’s Missing Chin) 🏆🏆🏆 (U22043)
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comment by 🏆🏆🏆Klopp of the Pops (Babel’s M... (U22043)
posted less than a minute ago
Midfield is the problem in games like this, they don’t create and score anywhere near enough.
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Nonsense.
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VVD scored more goals than Wij, Fab, Keita and Hendo last season.

And who’s the creative spark in midfield against these stubborn well drilled sides who keep TAA and Robertson pushes back?


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Mate stop with the wumming. Its obvious.

We list a game of football away in the CL against a more than decent team. It happens and it certainly happens to us in CL group games. We also win loads more than we lose. Like loads.

First goal was always likely to win it. Thought we played well, and shoeed greater quality, but they did better at both ends. Fair play.

Should be an entertaining game at Anfield based on that.

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We lost today because the front 3 unusually ballsed up our chances when they came along and then the ref decided to reward the Italians for their cheating.

Unfortunately if you miss chances you leave yourself open to something like that happening.

We'll qualify easily if we can keep up the performance level though.

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posted 43 seconds ago
comment by 🏆🏆🏆Klopp of the Pops (Babel’s M... (U22043)
posted less than a minute ago
Midfield is the problem in games like this, they don’t create and score anywhere near enough.
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Nonsense.
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VVD scored more goals than Wij, Fab, Keita and Hendo last season.

And who’s the creative spark in midfield against these stubborn well drilled sides who keep TAA and Robertson pushes back?


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So? What they did meant we won the CL and finished one point behind in the league. One game lost doesnt mean the midfield is the reason. Our midfield played well, better than Napoli's and yet we lost. Explain that.
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I didn’t say the midfield didn’t play well. I said that we don’t have the creative spark in midfield to open up these types of teams; and that our midfield doesn’t score enough goals.

comment by Neo-Super European Champions (U9135)
posted 2 minutes ago
We lost today because the front 3 unusually ballsed up our chances when they came along and then the ref decided to reward the Italians for their cheating.

Unfortunately if you miss chances you leave yourself open to something like that happening.

We'll qualify easily if we can keep up the performance level though.
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Is this the best front 3 in the world that ballsed up?

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comment by 🏆🏆🏆Klopp of the Pops (Babel’s M... (U22043)
posted less than a minute ago
Midfield is the problem in games like this, they don’t create and score anywhere near enough.
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Nonsense.
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VVD scored more goals than Wij, Fab, Keita and Hendo last season.

And who’s the creative spark in midfield against these stubborn well drilled sides who keep TAA and Robertson pushes back?


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So? What they did meant we won the CL and finished one point behind in the league. One game lost doesnt mean the midfield is the reason. Our midfield played well, better than Napoli's and yet we lost. Explain that.
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I didn’t say the midfield didn’t play well. I said that we don’t have the creative spark in midfield to open up these types of teams; and that our midfield doesn’t score enough goals.


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So then how the fack did we do it all of last season? What do you want? A change of tactics? A different player brought in? Move away from what worked last season and has been working this season?

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comment by Neo-Super European Champions (U9135)
posted 2 minutes ago
We lost today because the front 3 unusually ballsed up our chances when they came along and then the ref decided to reward the Italians for their cheating.

Unfortunately if you miss chances you leave yourself open to something like that happening.

We'll qualify easily if we can keep up the performance level though.
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Is this the best front 3 in the world that ballsed up?
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Yep, happens even to the best at times.

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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 🏆🏆🏆Klopp of the Pops (Babel’s Missing Chin) 🏆🏆🏆 (U22043)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Debating with Winston turns me on (U1721)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by 🏆🏆🏆Klopp of the Pops (Babel’s M... (U22043)
posted less than a minute ago
Midfield is the problem in games like this, they don’t create and score anywhere near enough.
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Nonsense.
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VVD scored more goals than Wij, Fab, Keita and Hendo last season.

And who’s the creative spark in midfield against these stubborn well drilled sides who keep TAA and Robertson pushes back?


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Mate stop with the wumming. Its obvious.

We list a game of football away in the CL against a more than decent team. It happens and it certainly happens to us in CL group games. We also win loads more than we lose. Like loads.

First goal was always likely to win it. Thought we played well, and shoeed greater quality, but they did better at both ends. Fair play.

Should be an entertaining game at Anfield based on that.
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You need to learn to read as well. I didn’t say we played badly, nor did I say the midfield was poor. What I said is that our midfielders don’t score enough goals. What they do they do well; but occasionally, like tonight when they front 3 aren’t playing well, you need a midfielder to chip in with a goal or a creative spark

We lost there last season as well and we played a lot worse in that match too.

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comment by Debating with Winston turns me on (U1721)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by 🏆🏆🏆Klopp of the Pops (Babel’s M... (U22043)
posted less than a minute ago
Midfield is the problem in games like this, they don’t create and score anywhere near enough.
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Nonsense.
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VVD scored more goals than Wij, Fab, Keita and Hendo last season.

And who’s the creative spark in midfield against these stubborn well drilled sides who keep TAA and Robertson pushes back?


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Mate stop with the wumming. Its obvious.

We list a game of football away in the CL against a more than decent team. It happens and it certainly happens to us in CL group games. We also win loads more than we lose. Like loads.

First goal was always likely to win it. Thought we played well, and shoeed greater quality, but they did better at both ends. Fair play.

Should be an entertaining game at Anfield based on that.
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You need to learn to read as well. I didn’t say we played badly, nor did I say the midfield was poor. What I said is that our midfielders don’t score enough goals. What they do they do well; but occasionally, like tonight when they front 3 aren’t playing well, you need a midfielder to chip in with a goal or a creative spark

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Yes and I think its silly. Assuming you want the front 3 to keep thrir scoring rate how many goals as a team do you think we should be scoring a season?

130?

150?

Genuine question.

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posted 43 seconds ago
comment by 🏆🏆🏆Klopp of the Pops (Babel’s M... (U22043)
posted less than a minute ago
Midfield is the problem in games like this, they don’t create and score anywhere near enough.
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Nonsense.
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VVD scored more goals than Wij, Fab, Keita and Hendo last season.

And who’s the creative spark in midfield against these stubborn well drilled sides who keep TAA and Robertson pushes back?


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So? What they did meant we won the CL and finished one point behind in the league. One game lost doesnt mean the midfield is the reason. Our midfield played well, better than Napoli's and yet we lost. Explain that.
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I didn’t say the midfield didn’t play well. I said that we don’t have the creative spark in midfield to open up these types of teams; and that our midfield doesn’t score enough goals.


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So then how the fack did we do it all of last season? What do you want? A change of tactics? A different player brought in? Move away from what worked last season and has been working this season?
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Because Porto, Bayern, Barca and Spurs don’t play the way Napoli do. And yes, occasionally you do have to change tactics.

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comment by 🏆🏆🏆Klopp of the Pops (Babel’s M... (U22043)
posted less than a minute ago
Midfield is the problem in games like this, they don’t create and score anywhere near enough.
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Nonsense.
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VVD scored more goals than Wij, Fab, Keita and Hendo last season.

And who’s the creative spark in midfield against these stubborn well drilled sides who keep TAA and Robertson pushes back?


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So? What they did meant we won the CL and finished one point behind in the league. One game lost doesnt mean the midfield is the reason. Our midfield played well, better than Napoli's and yet we lost. Explain that.
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I didn’t say the midfield didn’t play well. I said that we don’t have the creative spark in midfield to open up these types of teams; and that our midfield doesn’t score enough goals.


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So then how the fack did we do it all of last season? What do you want? A change of tactics? A different player brought in? Move away from what worked last season and has been working this season?
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Because Porto, Bayern, Barca and Spurs don’t play the way Napoli do. And yes, occasionally you do have to change tactics.
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So we should have a creative player instead of our CL winning midfield for one game a season in case we play Napoli?

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comment by Debating with Winston turns me on (U1721)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by 🏆🏆🏆Klopp of the Pops (Babel’s M... (U22043)
posted less than a minute ago
Midfield is the problem in games like this, they don’t create and score anywhere near enough.
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Nonsense.
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VVD scored more goals than Wij, Fab, Keita and Hendo last season.

And who’s the creative spark in midfield against these stubborn well drilled sides who keep TAA and Robertson pushes back?


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Mate stop with the wumming. Its obvious.

We list a game of football away in the CL against a more than decent team. It happens and it certainly happens to us in CL group games. We also win loads more than we lose. Like loads.

First goal was always likely to win it. Thought we played well, and shoeed greater quality, but they did better at both ends. Fair play.

Should be an entertaining game at Anfield based on that.
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You need to learn to read as well. I didn’t say we played badly, nor did I say the midfield was poor. What I said is that our midfielders don’t score enough goals. What they do they do well; but occasionally, like tonight when they front 3 aren’t playing well, you need a midfielder to chip in with a goal or a creative spark

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Yes and I think its silly. Assuming you want the front 3 to keep thrir scoring rate how many goals as a team do you think we should be scoring a season?

130?

150?

Genuine question.
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Just one more goal from the midfield last season, against the likes of Leicester, Everton or West Ham would have seen us win the league.

It’s not about how many, it’s about when.

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comment by 🏆🏆🏆Klopp of the Pops (Babel’s M... (U22043)
posted less than a minute ago
Midfield is the problem in games like this, they don’t create and score anywhere near enough.
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Nonsense.
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VVD scored more goals than Wij, Fab, Keita and Hendo last season.

And who’s the creative spark in midfield against these stubborn well drilled sides who keep TAA and Robertson pushes back?


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So? What they did meant we won the CL and finished one point behind in the league. One game lost doesnt mean the midfield is the reason. Our midfield played well, better than Napoli's and yet we lost. Explain that.
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I didn’t say the midfield didn’t play well. I said that we don’t have the creative spark in midfield to open up these types of teams; and that our midfield doesn’t score enough goals.


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So then how the fack did we do it all of last season? What do you want? A change of tactics? A different player brought in? Move away from what worked last season and has been working this season?
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Because Porto, Bayern, Barca and Spurs don’t play the way Napoli do. And yes, occasionally you do have to change tactics.
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So we should have a creative player instead of our CL winning midfield for one game a season in case we play Napoli?
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Didn’t say instead. Why can’t it be in addition to? You know, like we have Origi in addition to any of the front 3.

Just one more goal from the midfield last season, against the likes of Leicester, Everton or West Ham would have seen us win the league.

It’s not about how many, it’s about when.
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Right well you need to have a word with Klopp then because there are four or five midfielders we habe who've all hit double figures in their career. It's down to him how and when he plays them, not the personnel available.

18/19 season goals (all comps)
Milner 7
Wij 5
Fab 1
Hendo 1

Keita gets a pass given injury.

We scored 111 goals last season (not inc OGs) and 12% of those came from midfield. 8% came from defence.

It’s not sacrilege to suggest that we might need options or a change in tactics to beat stubborn teams.

comment by 🏆🏆🏆Klopp of the Pops (Babel’s M... (U22043)
posted 3 minutes ago
18/19 season goals (all comps)
Milner 7
Wij 5
Fab 1
Hendo 1

Keita gets a pass given injury.

We scored 111 goals last season (not inc OGs) and 12% of those came from midfield. 8% came from defence.

It’s not sacrilege to suggest that we might need options or a change in tactics to beat stubborn teams.
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Not sacrilege, idiocy, considering what we are doing with the players and tactics we've been using the last year.

comment by Debating with Winston turns me on (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 🏆🏆🏆Klopp of the Pops (Babel’s M... (U22043)
posted 3 minutes ago
18/19 season goals (all comps)
Milner 7
Wij 5
Fab 1
Hendo 1

Keita gets a pass given injury.

We scored 111 goals last season (not inc OGs) and 12% of those came from midfield. 8% came from defence.

It’s not sacrilege to suggest that we might need options or a change in tactics to beat stubborn teams.
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Not sacrilege, idiocy, considering what we are doing with the players and tactics we've been using the last year.
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If only you’d actually read my initial post then you wouldn’t be carrying on with such nonsense and trying to straw man me 👍