What we only made 10 tackles ?

Or is that each ?

So 18 tackles?

comment by SB&S (U17757)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
An Arsenal mate of mine summed it up. Last night's result was meaningless. We didn't get knocked out of anything, we will go through as runner up and it has no impact on our league status. Fair, it was humiliating but maybe Poch and the players will respond to that humiliation.
Personally I'm leaning toward burning my Spurs flags, shredding my Spurs shirts and turning my support to Leyton Orient but I know in the end I'm TTID. COYS
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There is absolutely no guarantee of getting out of the group. Current form Spurs may not even make Europa League. Could easily see Spurs finishing bottom of this group.

comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 22 seconds ago
Chronic

Assume you went yesterday ?
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nope. my season ticket seat was 77 pounds which i felt was ridiculous and didn't pay for. so i watched at home, and I'm pleased i did. cant afford cup games on top of my ST price, which is 1200.
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Don`t blame you mate. Some of the dross being served up is totally unacceptable. The ground will be half empty I suspect at the next home CL ground.

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by SB&S (U17757)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
An Arsenal mate of mine summed it up. Last night's result was meaningless. We didn't get knocked out of anything, we will go through as runner up and it has no impact on our league status. Fair, it was humiliating but maybe Poch and the players will respond to that humiliation.
Personally I'm leaning toward burning my Spurs flags, shredding my Spurs shirts and turning my support to Leyton Orient but I know in the end I'm TTID. COYS
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There is absolutely no guarantee of getting out of the group. Current form Spurs may not even make Europa League. Could easily see Spurs finishing bottom of this group.
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Cheerful little bloke aren't you...

Pochettino is an excellent manager but he's been hamstrung by the board and his methods are going stale since he's been drumming it into pretty much the same group for years now, and he's far too stubborn to change things up.

The players are talented but they're growing bored and restless because there's not been enough change or competition to keep things fresh, and they're largely underpaid compared to their peers.

Put all that together and it's a bad mix. It all adds up to one thing - stagnation. Just about the worst thing that can happen in elite sports, where everyone needs to be kept constantly on their toes to keep things progressing and improving.

Ultimately the blame rests with the board for failing to forecast properly and keep the player base turning over adequately. But the players and Pochettino aren't blameless either, they're also underperforming, albeit I think they're more symptoms of the wider issue than the root cause.

Big problems with no quick solution. A new manager would freshen things up in the short term at least, no doubt, but I don't think that would guarantee anything would change in the long run.

I'd say:

Pochettino - 25%
Players - 25%
Board - 50% as the root cause without which Pochettino and the players wouldn't in the position to fack up so badly

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by SB&S (U17757)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
An Arsenal mate of mine summed it up. Last night's result was meaningless. We didn't get knocked out of anything, we will go through as runner up and it has no impact on our league status. Fair, it was humiliating but maybe Poch and the players will respond to that humiliation.
Personally I'm leaning toward burning my Spurs flags, shredding my Spurs shirts and turning my support to Leyton Orient but I know in the end I'm TTID. COYS
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There is absolutely no guarantee of getting out of the group. Current form Spurs may not even make Europa League. Could easily see Spurs finishing bottom of this group.
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Can or want too.....

Dawsons fault..... 🤷‍♂️

comment by Junct!on8 (U21769)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by SB&S (U17757)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
An Arsenal mate of mine summed it up. Last night's result was meaningless. We didn't get knocked out of anything, we will go through as runner up and it has no impact on our league status. Fair, it was humiliating but maybe Poch and the players will respond to that humiliation.
Personally I'm leaning toward burning my Spurs flags, shredding my Spurs shirts and turning my support to Leyton Orient but I know in the end I'm TTID. COYS
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There is absolutely no guarantee of getting out of the group. Current form Spurs may not even make Europa League. Could easily see Spurs finishing bottom of this group.
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Can or want too.....
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I think the latter to prove a point...

Baldy definitely. Should have done so much more to back Poch. Last summer's transfers feels too little too late.

Poch 25%
Players 37.5%
Board/Baldy 37.5%

Baldy will once again prove he is to blame in January when he has the opportunity to help out our problems and doesn't.

Dybala and Atal are joining to push us on for a late treble push

comment by SB&S (U17757)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by SB&S (U17757)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
An Arsenal mate of mine summed it up. Last night's result was meaningless. We didn't get knocked out of anything, we will go through as runner up and it has no impact on our league status. Fair, it was humiliating but maybe Poch and the players will respond to that humiliation.
Personally I'm leaning toward burning my Spurs flags, shredding my Spurs shirts and turning my support to Leyton Orient but I know in the end I'm TTID. COYS
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There is absolutely no guarantee of getting out of the group. Current form Spurs may not even make Europa League. Could easily see Spurs finishing bottom of this group.
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Cheerful little bloke aren't you...
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Absolute realist on current form. Absolutely no chance of winning in Munich, Red Star be lucky to get a draw, probably a defeat, and of the two homes games against Olympiacos and Red Star, wouldn`t bet against Spurs slipping up in one, possibly both games.

Dybala is just a pipedream. If we wanted him that much we would have got him already, or shown the intent to bring someone else in. There is just too little intent and ambition from the board. Too little activity in a transfer window where we had loads to do and once again failed on objectives and left things until the last minute.

Things are not going to improve with us until the board start matching Poch's own ambition. He wants more than top 4.

To be honest. The players are most to blame. But then the manager's selections are equally stupid

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 51 minutes ago
Dybala is just a pipedream. If we wanted him that much we would have got him already, or shown the intent to bring someone else in. There is just too little intent and ambition from the board. Too little activity in a transfer window where we had loads to do and once again failed on objectives and left things until the last minute.

Things are not going to improve with us until the board start matching Poch's own ambition. He wants more than top 4.
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if he wants more than top 4 he can start off by making sensible team selections, backed up by sensible tactics, in the big semi finals and finals we have been in.

we have been in a position to win numerous things under poch, and unfortunately he has been found wanting at these crunch times time and time again....

the finals and semi finals we lost were nothing to do with quality... and everything to do about performance on the day and management.

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 4 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by SB&S (U17757)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by SB&S (U17757)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
An Arsenal mate of mine summed it up. Last night's result was meaningless. We didn't get knocked out of anything, we will go through as runner up and it has no impact on our league status. Fair, it was humiliating but maybe Poch and the players will respond to that humiliation.
Personally I'm leaning toward burning my Spurs flags, shredding my Spurs shirts and turning my support to Leyton Orient but I know in the end I'm TTID. COYS
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There is absolutely no guarantee of getting out of the group. Current form Spurs may not even make Europa League. Could easily see Spurs finishing bottom of this group.
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Cheerful little bloke aren't you...
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Absolute realist on current form. Absolutely no chance of winning in Munich, Red Star be lucky to get a draw, probably a defeat, and of the two homes games against Olympiacos and Red Star, wouldn`t bet against Spurs slipping up in one, possibly both games.
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I think we all pretty much said that when we lost both opening games last time out Sandy and we made it to the final. Had it been 2-1 to Munich perhaps we wouldn't be quite so upset. I don't know but I'm going to get behind the team come what may.

Levy 60%
Players 25%
Poch 10%
The fans 5%

I`ve been saying for years that Enic are what hold us back from taking the final step to silverware, they are a business first and a football club second. One paltry league cup under their watch tells us everything about where their priorities lie.

Record profits, regular CL, refinancing of stadium debt, record revenues etc and they still can not show enough ambition in the transfer market.

Poch has worked wonders and proved over many years he is a top class coach, and so deserved to be backed properly. Instead, he got a couple of years of letting the squad stagnate from Levy and when it came to buying new players last summer, all we got was replacements for departures, no squad strengthening at all.

Levy needs to make £200m available this January and next summer for a new top class RB, LB, CB, CM and another striker.