Well was somewhat predictable but seriously is this how you drop this now? I had this all pencilled in for PSX reveal or something, or maybe they know that MS was gonna give a date for Scarlett soon. But yeh weird, especially after there was the treehouse like last week....

Interesting read. I'm actually hyped for this.

How much is it gonna be do people think?

£550 straight out the gate.

Too much.

How much was the PS4 when it came out?

Thought it was closer to £400 wasn't it?

So PS5 will about £450-500 when it comes out.

PS4 was £349 at launch. although getting hold of one was not easy, with many prepared to pay over the odds to get one.

The sweet spot is around £399, more than that and people are put off, unless it is something special. I would be prepared to pay more but I would guess £399.

Agree with Amiga here 399 is classically the sweet spot, though this thing based on everything else that we know needs to be packing a minimum of a 1tb ssd. So the parts list in PC specs is a Ryzen 7 3700, around a 2060rtx and a 1tb ssd, thats 700 in todays market. Ok in a year that stuff will be old hat and half price but still fair play to Sony.

I rarely get game consoles when they first come out, I usually get them few years later so I will wait till the price goes down to £300, Christmas 2022 will probably have special offers for around that price with some sort of bundle.

Arsenal probably the best thing to do. The differences will be pretty minimal especially if you arent too fussed with 4k. And there are still lots of amazing games on PS4 coming out in the next year.

Wonder what the USP of the PS5 will be. The PS4 didn't really had one and it's one of the reasons it never interested me - was just an upgraded PS3 that you had to pay to play online and didn't offer anything revolutionary.

Hahahahahah you are kidding arent you Hobo? Nothing has had a USP for years in this segment. You want a "USP" then go buy a Nintendo console. The only point in the PS5/Xbox Scarlett is to bring the best and biggest games to the masses. Come on lets be honest consoles havent had a USP since the NES ffs - its the same thing just bigger and better with some new technology be that 3d, hdr or ray tracing.

Its "USP" is it can play games your PS4 cant, simple as. You want any other "USP" you are looking in the wrong place

Well the PS1 had optical disc drive, the PS2 played DVDs, the PS3 played Blu-Rays and had an HDD.
The PS4... played Blu-Rays and had an HDD.

One of the reasons the PS2 was so successful is that it played DVDs at a time when DVD players were stupidly expensive. PS3 might have had the same impact, were it not stupidly expensive on launch.

Other than the Switch, consoles just appear to have become low-end restrictive PCs.

Not really a USP though. Just an added bonus of convenience if you ask me - Sony didn't sit down and say let's stick a DVD player in here to sell more units. Also an optical drive wasn't a USP, it was a means to an end. And if so then the fact that the PS5 can be used as a 4k player should suffice



And hobo that's the point in the console - gaming at a fraction of the cost and effort of PC gaming. Again I am surprised that you seem surprised with the lack of innovation....like this has been known for 20 years or more.....

Seriously it's like asking Ford what the USP of their next fiesta will be.....it's not like it's going to have 3 wheels or wings is it? They are just going to say it's more efficient and it's has a bt radio!

Exactly right Simon. Consoles are nor necessarily about power, they are about convenience. Which is precisely why I moved from PC gaming to console.

I wanted something that just worked. I didn't want to keep upgrading. I didn't want to think about a piece of software not working. I wanted something convenient.

Consoles may be less powerful, but the fact the hardware is fixed means developers can really focus on getting the most out of whats available.

One USP i guess will be good will be better and more affordable VR. PSVR v2 which we'll get prob appx 2021/22 will be great. Minimal wires, cheaper than PSVR v1 and much better at what it does. The steps taken in the last few years by Occulus and other companies point to a very bright VR future

VR needs room to grow. The PS4 only has the power to taste the potential. I have already said that I am more excited by the prospect of PSVR2 than I am PS5.

The PS5 will be a big upgrade, allowing VR a graphics upgrade and Higher resolution. I'm also hoping for a Wider field of View and if rumours are true Eye tracking.

Add better head and control tracking with haptic feedback These are the things that will take VR to the next level.

If I get those things, I can live with the tether for now.

Have you tried VR Simon?

Nope never had the space - though after reading you can tether Quest I am thinking this may be my jumping on point, or the next version of the rift. Lets see.

People bought a PS2 because it had a DVD player? Really?

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 29 minutes ago

People bought a PS2 because it had a DVD player? Really?

It was the first dvd player I had.

comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 29 minutes ago

People bought a PS2 because it had a DVD player? Really?

It was the first dvd player I had.
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But you surely didn't buy it just for the DVD player as a USP? A PS2 having a DVD player had absolutely no impact on my decision to get a PS2. I upgrade my consoles because I want to play new and better games.

Yeah I think a lot of people bought a PS2 because it doubled as a DVD player.

I know it swung the purchase in my favour back in the day.

Tamwolf, Obviously I didn't simply buy the PS2 as a DVD player, as I could have simply bought a standalone device.

I bought it for my kids to use, and stole it if I fancied watching a DVD. The fact it played DVD's was certainly a big factor in buying it though.