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Is Pogba a Luxury Player?

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posted on 9/10/19

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 7 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
I’ve given up on Pogba ever being right for United. Too lazy, too moody, too inconsistent.

I wouldn’t describe him as a luxury - I don’t think he’s that good.
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Would you say he has been a flop?
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Over the past six months you’ve gone from someone with limited knowledge who did at least debate subjects properly to a troll.

Disappointing to see, but seems to have coincided with Liverpool's success. It’s almost like the excitement of it all has got you bouncing around like a child.

posted on 9/10/19

It’s all about Opinions, I argued with my brother for years as I felt Coutinho was a luxury player even at Liverpool and the Barca move in my opinion proved me right.

Don’t get me wrong, a lot of players would struggle to break into Barca, I mean even Cesc who was a far superior player to Coutinho also slightly struggled but still a player who is adaptable and world class always thrive in different environments.

posted on 9/10/19

comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 12 hours, 10 minutes ago
Bryan Robson & Steven Gerrard are laughing are these poor players around him excuses
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and this is probably where a lot of fans' problems with Pogba lie. They saw the price tag and thought that meant to must be a roy of the rovers type that will single handidly win us big matches.

He's just a very good player when he is a good team and a good player when in an average team. Whether that fits a persons view of being a luxury player is entirely up to them.

posted on 9/10/19

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 13 hours, 43 minutes ago
I'm not sure he's a luxury player, but he's certainly a player that has to be used a specific way with the right players around him. Just look at the WC, he was great because he had the right players around him which enabled him to flourish, he also seemed to thrive off it and showed some leadership. Without him I think France would be weaker.

The problem at United is that firstly we're a mess, secondly we don't play him in his best role and thirdly we don't have the right set up around him. Yes you can argue whether he's worth the hassle as there are clearly better players around but he can make a difference to your team as long as you get it all right around him.

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I said at the time and will say it again, pogba was okay to good in the WC, probably Frances 8th or 9th best player.

posted on 9/10/19

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 7 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
I’ve given up on Pogba ever being right for United. Too lazy, too moody, too inconsistent.

I wouldn’t describe him as a luxury - I don’t think he’s that good.
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Would you say he has been a flop?
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Over the past six months you’ve gone from someone with limited knowledge who did at least debate subjects properly to a troll.

Disappointing to see, but seems to have coincided with Liverpool's success. It’s almost like the excitement of it all has got you bouncing around like a child.
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I just asked a question. Settle down.

posted on 9/10/19

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 7 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
I’ve given up on Pogba ever being right for United. Too lazy, too moody, too inconsistent.

I wouldn’t describe him as a luxury - I don’t think he’s that good.
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Would you say he has been a flop?
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Over the past six months you’ve gone from someone with limited knowledge who did at least debate subjects properly to a troll.

Disappointing to see, but seems to have coincided with Liverpool's success. It’s almost like the excitement of it all has got you bouncing around like a child.
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I just asked a question. Settle down.
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Shut up TOOR, you silly little troll.

posted on 9/10/19

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 7 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
I’ve given up on Pogba ever being right for United. Too lazy, too moody, too inconsistent.

I wouldn’t describe him as a luxury - I don’t think he’s that good.
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Would you say he has been a flop?
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Over the past six months you’ve gone from someone with limited knowledge who did at least debate subjects properly to a troll.

Disappointing to see, but seems to have coincided with Liverpool's success. It’s almost like the excitement of it all has got you bouncing around like a child.
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I just asked a question. Settle down.
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Shut up TOOR, you silly little troll.
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Woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?

posted on 9/10/19

comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
It’s all about Opinions, I argued with my brother for years as I felt Coutinho was a luxury player even at Liverpool and the Barca move in my opinion proved me right.

Don’t get me wrong, a lot of players would struggle to break into Barca, I mean even Cesc who was a far superior player to Coutinho also slightly struggled but still a player who is adaptable and world class always thrive in different environments.
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You were wrong about him at Liverpool, that's for sure. He was excellent defensively as well for us, won the ball back a lot and set us on the attack high up the pitch. Luxury players don't do that. Hence Pogba being labelled one.

posted on 9/10/19

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 7 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
I’ve given up on Pogba ever being right for United. Too lazy, too moody, too inconsistent.

I wouldn’t describe him as a luxury - I don’t think he’s that good.
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Would you say he has been a flop?
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Over the past six months you’ve gone from someone with limited knowledge who did at least debate subjects properly to a troll.

Disappointing to see, but seems to have coincided with Liverpool's success. It’s almost like the excitement of it all has got you bouncing around like a child.
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I just asked a question. Settle down.
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Shut up TOOR, you silly little troll.
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Woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?
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Nope, just becoming tired of your change from a sensible poster to a troll.

Grow up.

posted on 9/10/19

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 7 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
I’ve given up on Pogba ever being right for United. Too lazy, too moody, too inconsistent.

I wouldn’t describe him as a luxury - I don’t think he’s that good.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Would you say he has been a flop?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Over the past six months you’ve gone from someone with limited knowledge who did at least debate subjects properly to a troll.

Disappointing to see, but seems to have coincided with Liverpool's success. It’s almost like the excitement of it all has got you bouncing around like a child.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I just asked a question. Settle down.
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Shut up TOOR, you silly little troll.
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Woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?
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Nope, just becoming tired of your change from a sensible poster to a troll.

Grow up.
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How was I trolling? You had stated int he past that Pogba isn't a flop. I'm just asking if you still hold the same opinion or enough time had passed that your opinion has changed.

Jesus.

It's those sleepless nights isn't it? I took it out on my work colleagues. You're taking it out on me

posted on 9/10/19

There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)

TOOR, you're trolling because you know my view on that subject.

If that was a genuine question then you're actually a moron. But I don't think you are - you were trolling.

You've been doing it for months now, instead of debating subjects. When you're proven wrong, you tend to run off and then just come back to have a dig.

Grow up.

posted on 9/10/19

In the Premier League, Paul Pogba has created the same amount of chances (13) as Scott McTominay (6), Jesse Lingard (4), Fred (3) and Matić (0) combined.

Minutes played:

1363 – McTominay, Lingard, Fred and Matić
450 – Pogba

#luxuryplayer

posted on 9/10/19

comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 31 seconds ago
In the Premier League, Paul Pogba has created the same amount of chances (13) as Scott McTominay (6), Jesse Lingard (4), Fred (3) and Matić (0) combined.

Minutes played:

1363 – McTominay, Lingard, Fred and Matić
450 – Pogba

#luxuryplayer
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Not suprising, he's also had 457 touches of the ball in that time, in 450 minutes of playing. If you get the ball more, you will create more. Also for an attacking mid you'd expect more than compared to Mctominay,fred and matic who are DM's, and two are Sh!t.
He's also been dispossessed more times than the players above.

And less said of lingard the better no?

posted on 9/10/19

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 31 seconds ago
In the Premier League, Paul Pogba has created the same amount of chances (13) as Scott McTominay (6), Jesse Lingard (4), Fred (3) and Matić (0) combined.

Minutes played:

1363 – McTominay, Lingard, Fred and Matić
450 – Pogba

#luxuryplayer
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Not suprising, he's also had 457 touches of the ball in that time, in 450 minutes of playing. If you get the ball more, you will create more. Also for an attacking mid you'd expect more than compared to Mctominay,fred and matic who are DM's, and two are Sh!t.
He's also been dispossessed more times than the players above.

And less said of lingard the better no?


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He’s also made more ball recoveries than any player above.

My point is he isn’t a luxury if he’s creating that many chances compared to our other players. We clearly NEED him until we sign replacements.

posted on 9/10/19

Yeah point taken. But so did ozil no? I think it's hard to judge with utd in their current state anyways. It's a luxury in the fact that the rest of your players bore the eyes off your fans . But its not asif you can replace him for a more effective hard working player.

posted on 9/10/19

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)

TOOR, you're trolling because you know my view on that subject.

If that was a genuine question then you're actually a moron. But I don't think you are - you were trolling.

You've been doing it for months now, instead of debating subjects. When you're proven wrong, you tend to run off and then just come back to have a dig.

Grow up.
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Not at all. You're taking a very childish approach to a reasonable question.

Yes I knew your stance on it, hence why I asked, as after your comment I thought it may have changed. if it hasn't all you had to do was say so instead of going off on one.

posted on 9/10/19

There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)

Then you are an idiot.

There's nothing childish about me pointing out that you are an idiot.

You obviously don't know my stance on it. If you did, you wouldn't have asked. Further evidence that you don't actually read anything people write - you're so wrapped up in your own opinion that you have absolutely no idea what anyone is saying to you.

Facking moron.

posted on 9/10/19

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 hours, 1 minute ago
There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)

Then you are an idiot.

There's nothing childish about me pointing out that you are an idiot.

You obviously don't know my stance on it. If you did, you wouldn't have asked. Further evidence that you don't actually read anything people write - you're so wrapped up in your own opinion that you have absolutely no idea what anyone is saying to you.

Facking moron.
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Wow, you've really taken a simple question in a bad way. I suggest you see a psychiatrist or something.

I said I knew your stance from before but thought it may have changed considering your comment on this thread, ie. you'd given up on him at United and you don't think he's that good.

If it hasn't fine. Don't lose your shlt over it.

posted on 9/10/19

There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)

You're a facking idiot.

My stance hasn't changed - you don't even know what it is. If you did, you wouldn't have asked the question.

Learn to read you stupid priick.

posted on 9/10/19

Ah ok. Thanks. We got there in the end. I'll ignore all the insults and put it down to sleepless nights.

posted on 9/10/19

We didn’t get anywhere. You can’t actually don’t read posts properly.

Embarrassing.

posted on 9/10/19

OK let's say I understand now that you have explained it to me. Make you feel any better?

posted on 9/10/19

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 28 minutes ago
OK let's say I understand now that you have explained it to me. Make you feel any better?
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I haven’t explained it to you. You can fack off and read it for yourself if you like.

Or you can carry on being a stupid priick. Your choice.

posted on 9/10/19

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 28 minutes ago
OK let's say I understand now that you have explained it to me. Make you feel any better?
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I haven’t explained it to you. You can fack off and read it for yourself if you like.

Or you can carry on being a stupid priick. Your choice.
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Ah OK. You've been very aggressive today. I'm gonna leave you be.

posted on 9/10/19

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 28 minutes ago
OK let's say I understand now that you have explained it to me. Make you feel any better?
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I haven’t explained it to you. You can fack off and read it for yourself if you like.

Or you can carry on being a stupid priick. Your choice.
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Ah OK. You've been very aggressive today. I'm gonna leave you be.
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Ever thought the problem could be you?

You’ve turned into a troll. And not a good or funny one. Just a facking priick.

Seriously, learn to read properly. I see on another thread you’ve done the same thing - failed to understand the point someone is making to you. You did it four times to me yesterday.

You’re stupid and you’re now trolling as well. What a pitiful combo.

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