I can understand why you would be, but I am happy with the draw.
People act as if Ajax were completely deserving of a 4-1 lead and were some wonder team, but bar our silly fouls giving away set pieces, we actually had some good play and were unlucky to go in 3-1 down. The third goal of their's was a freak goal too.
Tammy had a goal disallowed etc. So I thought we were unlucky to be 4-1 down so happy to get anything out the game.
Disappointing about azpis goal being chalked off though, I went mental when it went in.
A few things to mention:
Our comeback started before the red cards, and the first one was a stone wall red, why so many people are moaning is ridiculous and they're just bitter.
Also where was the moaning in the first half when their players were cynically taking down our players in the first half? Ajax could have arguably had a man sent off first half if the ref got his cards out earlier. Poor officiating.
Agree with Nick,also, I thought the officials were below standard all through the game.
comment by HarlequinHebdo (U16981)
posted 11 minutes ago
Agree with Nick,also, I thought the officials were below standard all through the game.
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To be fair to the linos, they seemed to get everything spot on.
I thought you probably deserved the win.
It did stand out to me that Abraham isn't going to be good enough to be Chelsea's main striker though. I suspect with a few good buys in right areas blended with those top young players and you could get in the Liverpool/City title mix over the next couple of seasons.
why not fash? Abraham has been class this year and could arguably have had a couple more goals. I thought last night his finishing was poorer than normal but his all round play was great (see his bit of play which started the blind red card). I dont see how you can say he wont be good enough after scoring 10 goals in his first 10/11 games for chelsea at PL level. That's an outrageous return for someone so young in their first season.
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He's not clinical enough and lacks composure. His link up play isn't great either. Great goal return this season but from what i've seen he misses a lot of chances too.
Compare him to Firmino or Aguero and he just does not stack up and i don't see him getting to that level.
Chelsea really didnt deserve to win this game ffs.
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Other than giroud link up play is the best I’ve seen for a number 9 since drogba. Never thought I’d say that beginning of the year
Nah. Would've taken the draw before the game and it was an awesome two hours of my life. Not even a shred of disappointment for me. Can be easy to sleep on how good Ajax are right now, I'm not gunna be upset with a draw whatever the circumstances of it.
Also, how the f*** did Ziyech not get a move this summer? The reported 40mil valuation is a steal, I'd swap him with Barkley in a heartbeat.
I think Tammy has been fantastic and has all the attributes required to be our number 1 striker. He's light years better than any striker we've had since Costa left. Having said that he's still only 22 and he's still developing. I think he's being slightly overplayed at the moment as well so that should be considered.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 40 minutes ago
He's not clinical enough and lacks composure. His link up play isn't great either. Great goal return this season but from what i've seen he misses a lot of chances too.
Compare him to Firmino or Aguero and he just does not stack up and i don't see him getting to that level.
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His link up play is improving all the while.
And I don't think anyone expects him to reach Aguero levels
comment by 14 to West Ham (U20729)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 40 minutes ago
He's not clinical enough and lacks composure. His link up play isn't great either. Great goal return this season but from what i've seen he misses a lot of chances too.
Compare him to Firmino or Aguero and he just does not stack up and i don't see him getting to that level.
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His link up play is improving all the while.
And I don't think anyone expects him to reach Aguero levels
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That would be sensible not to expect him too.
My point was you need an upgrade on him as your main striker long term to challenge again
I don’t agree hash. I think he can be part of a title challenge in a couple years.
As the main man? Not for me, good back up option though.
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
Chelsea really didnt deserve to win this game ffs.
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posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
Chelsea really didnt deserve to win this game ffs.
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lol the way GT was in the football thread last night
Gutted about their first & third goal (individual errors from Tammy & Kepa), easily avoidable goals.
Apart from that, had the measure of Ajax and should have won.
Tammy really needs to learn how to defend near post deliveries (he will, in time), this isn't the first time that he's made a mess of it. Downfall.
Generally pleased that we've managed to improve the standard of collective set-piece defending.
Over the two matches you were gifted a penalty, 2 men from Ajax sent off and a disallowed Ajax goal
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posted 8 minutes ago
Over the two matches you were gifted a penalty, 2 men from Ajax sent off and a disallowed Ajax goal
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comment by Yoda's big brother Hulk (U1250)
posted 31 minutes ago
Over the two matches you were gifted a penalty, 2 men from Ajax sent off and a disallowed Ajax goal
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We had two disallowed goals last night
Ajax were lucky to have scored the Chelsea own goals.
Chelsea deserved to win. Ajax is your typical dutch side, a mediocre team with 3 good players like Ziyech, Onana and vd Beek.
Ajax would have won easily had it not been for the two reds. They were pretty well in control, and leading 4-2.
comment by Yoda's big brother Hulk (U1250)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
Over the two matches you were gifted a penalty, 2 men from Ajax sent off and a disallowed Ajax goal
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posted on 6/11/19
I can understand why you would be, but I am happy with the draw.
People act as if Ajax were completely deserving of a 4-1 lead and were some wonder team, but bar our silly fouls giving away set pieces, we actually had some good play and were unlucky to go in 3-1 down. The third goal of their's was a freak goal too.
Tammy had a goal disallowed etc. So I thought we were unlucky to be 4-1 down so happy to get anything out the game.
Disappointing about azpis goal being chalked off though, I went mental when it went in.
A few things to mention:
Our comeback started before the red cards, and the first one was a stone wall red, why so many people are moaning is ridiculous and they're just bitter.
Also where was the moaning in the first half when their players were cynically taking down our players in the first half? Ajax could have arguably had a man sent off first half if the ref got his cards out earlier. Poor officiating.
posted on 6/11/19
Agree with Nick,also, I thought the officials were below standard all through the game.
posted on 6/11/19
comment by HarlequinHebdo (U16981)
posted 11 minutes ago
Agree with Nick,also, I thought the officials were below standard all through the game.
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To be fair to the linos, they seemed to get everything spot on.
posted on 6/11/19
I thought you probably deserved the win.
It did stand out to me that Abraham isn't going to be good enough to be Chelsea's main striker though. I suspect with a few good buys in right areas blended with those top young players and you could get in the Liverpool/City title mix over the next couple of seasons.
posted on 6/11/19
why not fash? Abraham has been class this year and could arguably have had a couple more goals. I thought last night his finishing was poorer than normal but his all round play was great (see his bit of play which started the blind red card). I dont see how you can say he wont be good enough after scoring 10 goals in his first 10/11 games for chelsea at PL level. That's an outrageous return for someone so young in their first season.
posted on 6/11/19
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posted on 6/11/19
He's not clinical enough and lacks composure. His link up play isn't great either. Great goal return this season but from what i've seen he misses a lot of chances too.
Compare him to Firmino or Aguero and he just does not stack up and i don't see him getting to that level.
posted on 6/11/19
Chelsea really didnt deserve to win this game ffs.
posted on 6/11/19
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posted on 6/11/19
Other than giroud link up play is the best I’ve seen for a number 9 since drogba. Never thought I’d say that beginning of the year
posted on 6/11/19
Nah. Would've taken the draw before the game and it was an awesome two hours of my life. Not even a shred of disappointment for me. Can be easy to sleep on how good Ajax are right now, I'm not gunna be upset with a draw whatever the circumstances of it.
Also, how the f*** did Ziyech not get a move this summer? The reported 40mil valuation is a steal, I'd swap him with Barkley in a heartbeat.
posted on 6/11/19
I think Tammy has been fantastic and has all the attributes required to be our number 1 striker. He's light years better than any striker we've had since Costa left. Having said that he's still only 22 and he's still developing. I think he's being slightly overplayed at the moment as well so that should be considered.
posted on 6/11/19
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 40 minutes ago
He's not clinical enough and lacks composure. His link up play isn't great either. Great goal return this season but from what i've seen he misses a lot of chances too.
Compare him to Firmino or Aguero and he just does not stack up and i don't see him getting to that level.
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His link up play is improving all the while.
And I don't think anyone expects him to reach Aguero levels
posted on 6/11/19
comment by 14 to West Ham (U20729)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 40 minutes ago
He's not clinical enough and lacks composure. His link up play isn't great either. Great goal return this season but from what i've seen he misses a lot of chances too.
Compare him to Firmino or Aguero and he just does not stack up and i don't see him getting to that level.
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His link up play is improving all the while.
And I don't think anyone expects him to reach Aguero levels
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That would be sensible not to expect him too.
My point was you need an upgrade on him as your main striker long term to challenge again
posted on 6/11/19
I don’t agree hash. I think he can be part of a title challenge in a couple years.
posted on 6/11/19
As the main man? Not for me, good back up option though.
posted on 6/11/19
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
Chelsea really didnt deserve to win this game ffs.
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posted on 6/11/19
comment by Bov (U6696)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
Chelsea really didnt deserve to win this game ffs.
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lol the way GT was in the football thread last night
posted on 6/11/19
Gutted about their first & third goal (individual errors from Tammy & Kepa), easily avoidable goals.
Apart from that, had the measure of Ajax and should have won.
Tammy really needs to learn how to defend near post deliveries (he will, in time), this isn't the first time that he's made a mess of it. Downfall.
Generally pleased that we've managed to improve the standard of collective set-piece defending.
posted on 6/11/19
Over the two matches you were gifted a penalty, 2 men from Ajax sent off and a disallowed Ajax goal
posted on 6/11/19
comment by Yoda's big brother Hulk (U1250)
posted 8 minutes ago
Over the two matches you were gifted a penalty, 2 men from Ajax sent off and a disallowed Ajax goal
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Offside goals are usually disallowed and two yellow cards result in a red
posted on 6/11/19
comment by Yoda's big brother Hulk (U1250)
posted 31 minutes ago
Over the two matches you were gifted a penalty, 2 men from Ajax sent off and a disallowed Ajax goal
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We had two disallowed goals last night
posted on 6/11/19
Ajax were lucky to have scored the Chelsea own goals.
Chelsea deserved to win. Ajax is your typical dutch side, a mediocre team with 3 good players like Ziyech, Onana and vd Beek.
posted on 6/11/19
Ajax would have won easily had it not been for the two reds. They were pretty well in control, and leading 4-2.
posted on 6/11/19
comment by Yoda's big brother Hulk (U1250)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
Over the two matches you were gifted a penalty, 2 men from Ajax sent off and a disallowed Ajax goal
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Do you dispute the red cards or the offside goal in Amsterdam? Thought not just mumbling words. Dry your eyes
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