comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 3 minutes ago
Check at 1.02. Jones was about to clear the ball and got smashed out the way lol.
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Paused it at 3 diff times at 1.02 its bang on shoulder to shoulder the last image paused on mousetts foot looks ahead, its not a better angle as the 0.53/4 one though.

Its irrelevant to me so im not even bias even as a liverpool fan as much as i enjoy utd dropping points couldnt even tell you where you are in the table these day. Are all Utd fans claiming this was a foul? Or just you? Just looks like weak defending to me. Neville would have said otherwise too so clearly he felt it was fair?
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Hafi is the most biased of fans you'll ever see.

I doubt anybody else is claiming it is a foul.

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 4 minutes ago
So you can foul a player aslong as theyve not touched the ball? Come on ffs. A foul is a foul there was no need for it and got punished for it that was VAR being good thats what we wanted it bringing in for. Nobody likes fouling in the box at set pieces anyway defending or attacking and even standing infront of a player blocking off runs etc was clamped down on recently and rightly so imo.

The TAA handball would never have happened if BS had not handballed it in the first place so advantage played by the ref in liverpools favour instead of giving liverpool a free kick turned out to be a great decision by the ref intentional or not.

Refs have never been consistent and VAR hasnt changed that... this conspiracy bollox is pathetic though. We have had as much ignored by var that has been given if not more.. and i expect will continue to do so in the future too as it will for everyone. Refs are inconsistent and pretty poor in this league imo, VAR is a great tool to have just has a few teething problems and it being used incompetently by our sorry bunch of officials.
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I agree taa one shouldnt be a pen. But the liverpool advantage should stop when taa does handballs it because its still a foul. The ref should of stopped the game after the handball.

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So if it's not a penalty, how is it a foul? What does the referee do? Give a freekick to Liverpool for TAA handballing it?
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Fk for bs handballing it accidentally as are the new rules?

But as i said, im pretty sure refs are entitled to play advantage and being in possession we had that right. Play should be allowed to play on without stoppages when possible and players should play to the whistle. And a wonderful goal was a result of playing on so intentional by the ref or not like i said correct outcome in reality.

Everyone thought it was a foul on commentary. Just people trolling Jones for not being stronger but it was a clear foul. I honestly don't get how it wasn't given. There are laws in the game and that was such an easy decision. Maybe match fixing or betting going on is only way to describe the decisions. Everyone was shocked that goal was allowed. Only Souness i believe trolled Jones.

TOOR lawro was in disbelief it wasn't given as a foul and thinks like it was like near worst VAR decision this season as he is worried how that was given as a goal when it was a clear foul. What made it ore funny was in same half a player touches a player and throws himself to ground, ref gives a free kick after goal so pushing someone out is okay but touching a player with no force is a foul lol

I think it was Jones after we conceded touched a player without any force and ref gave a free kick. That was around soon after we had conceded after Jones got shoved out the way. That implies match fixing? Won't be surprised if this match is like a betting scandal so Got_Better and co won.

I remember sky saying they pretty much didn't even check 1st goal and just gave it as the kickoff happened near straightaway. That implies match fixing.

I was critical of Maguire for the last goal but looking back his marking was poor but everyone else was. Maguire sees ball was going high up and instead of going to block he saw a perfect opportunity to clear the ball ans then then all instead of rising up the arm quickly pushes ball back down quickly perfectly for them to score so Maguire saw it was going up in air and then arm has made the ball go back down so Maguire can't get a block or clear it.

comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 7 hours, 8 minutes ago
Isnt it funny how they ignore everything thats gone against us with var theres been numerous blatant fouls on matip and vvd rtc etc at corners, utd given a goal that should have been ruled out for a clear foul on origi that lead to it, the firmino goal ruled out for offside a few weeks ago vs villa after some manipulation by atkinson in the var room moving lines at dodgy angles yeah refs love us and are corrupt alrightAtkinson does everything he can to rob us ffs even went to the extent of drawing his own lines at angles so he could rule out a goal, ignored a blatant foul on origi so utd could score. And steal a point.

Then they try make out salah was offside vs city 😂 a handball by trent should be a pen despite bernardo silva handballing it first oh and palace goal should have stood after a soft foul given to palace from a fonger on zaha yet lovren wasnt fouled two arms in the back shove which eveb hodgson their manager said was correctly ruled out 😂😂
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comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 6 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 4 minutes ago
So you can foul a player aslong as theyve not touched the ball? Come on ffs. A foul is a foul there was no need for it and got punished for it that was VAR being good thats what we wanted it bringing in for. Nobody likes fouling in the box at set pieces anyway defending or attacking and even standing infront of a player blocking off runs etc was clamped down on recently and rightly so imo.

The TAA handball would never have happened if BS had not handballed it in the first place so advantage played by the ref in liverpools favour instead of giving liverpool a free kick turned out to be a great decision by the ref intentional or not.

Refs have never been consistent and VAR hasnt changed that... this conspiracy bollox is pathetic though. We have had as much ignored by var that has been given if not more.. and i expect will continue to do so in the future too as it will for everyone. Refs are inconsistent and pretty poor in this league imo, VAR is a great tool to have just has a few teething problems and it being used incompetently by our sorry bunch of officials.
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I agree taa one shouldnt be a pen. But the liverpool advantage should stop when taa does handballs it because its still a foul. The ref should of stopped the game after the handball.

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So if it's not a penalty, how is it a foul? What does the referee do? Give a freekick to Liverpool for TAA handballing it?
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Fk for bs handballing it accidentally as are the new rules?

But as i said, im pretty sure refs are entitled to play advantage and being in possession we had that right. Play should be allowed to play on without stoppages when possible and players should play to the whistle. And a wonderful goal was a result of playing on so intentional by the ref or not like i said correct outcome in reality.
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I tend to agree. Correct outcome but the means needs to be looked at perhaps.

As per the rules I think we would have had a free kick for Silva's handball and therefore the goal probably doesn't happen.

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I thought they were all good goals for Sheffield & were the better team on the day , can’t believe how shiite United are 😂

The 1st goal should never have been given. The fact the same ref gave a foul for Jones touching a player with no force a few minutes later and then player throws himself to ground shows it. The 1st goal was so unfair that Lawro thought it made VAR a farce as it should have been easily disallowed. Honestly hope when we play Sheffield United next that we shove the keeper out the way and score and it is allowed and then handle the ball in. That's basically what they did.

I reckon the premierleague will apologise for VAR howlers against Man Utd and then secretly laugh. Let's not forget in first 5 minutes Sheffield United twice did lunges from behind taking our players out on counter attack. No yellow was given both times.

Can’t argue with VAR it’s the ultimate referee 👍

It’s what you all wanted

Yeah the VAR refs were all Liverpool fans. The fact Lawro thinks the 1st goal VAR decision for the goal to stand was a joke, then you know how bad a decision it was. Honestly guarantee you we will most likely never see a more ridiculous foul not given on a goal again. The only reason they scored was because they took Jones out. They scored a goal from an attack that was a lost cause. I would love it if Liverpool lose the league by a similar decision, let's say Van Dijk was about to clear the ball and then someone takes him out and opposition player scores due to it and it costs you the league, then you will realise how a bad decision feels. That decision was 10x worse than the one to award Man Utd a goal against Liverpool as this was a goal created by taking a player out.

You see it so many times defender in front of attacker guarding ball when ball is about to go out of player. If shoving him out the way to get the ball was a legal tactic then everyone would do it. This was from closer in but the fact was it never would be allowed in any game again.

This game reminded me of Leicester City 5-3 Man Utd game. VAR would have disallowed 5 goals with the letter of the law and sent a Leicester City player off as a result.

Leicester City 5-3 game would have finished 0-3. Interesting Leicester City in a game they scored 5 goals in didn't have a single shot on target in the game that should have counted. This game reminds me of this 3-3 game due to new rules to stop us.

Corruption is a big thing in football. Remember 15/16 season refs were denying us points and gaining Man City points and in the end we miss out on top 4 on goal difference.

Hafi we lost yesterday 1.56 - 1.33 on xg

Thoughts?

comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Hafi we lost yesterday 1.56 - 1.33 on xg

Thoughts?
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Oh dear.

I already said expected goals without those 2 illegal goals would have been 0.4 or 0.5. The fact they only scored from a long range strike and had one other chance suggest this.

Also sometimes I don't even get expected goals. We scored 3 easy goals yet our expected goals was so low.

I think some games they mistake expected goals as Inremember our game against Brighton we should have had 7 or 8 and also against Norwich but they had only expected goals in 3 or 4 figure.

comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 10 minutes ago
Also sometimes I don't even get expected goals. We scored 3 easy goals yet our expected goals was so low.

I think some games they mistake expected goals as Inremember our game against Brighton we should have had 7 or 8 and also against Norwich but they had only expected goals in 3 or 4 figure.
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