comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Roberto Tomkins (U1116)
posted 11 minutes ago
What did Van Dijk do in the Copa America?
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Watched a poor Messi while sat on the beach
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That was the Copa cobana
comment by TBone Steak Roysters (U3947)
posted 47 minutes ago
i don't know why VVD is even going there tonight. He should just chill at home we have a game on Wednesday.
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You can't be serious?
Agree with the OP entirely
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
I’d understand the argument if Messi scored 30 and got 10 assists. But the guy got outlandish results last year in a pretty crap Barca team. He was also the sole reason Liverpool didn’t smash Barca about 7-0 over two legs. If jordi alba or someone finished one of the chances he put on a plate in the second leg then they would have gone through.
Ridiculous season from Messi.
John Terry won the pfa player of the year, was he better than Ronaldinho? No. So he didn’t win ballon dor.
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It's people who don't know how spoilt they've been by the freakish consistency of Messi and Ronaldo for over a decade. Players like Zidane and fat Ronaldo and Shevchenko and Kaka and Nedved etc used to win Ballon D'Ors for FAR less than Messi has done this year, or even Ronaldo last year when Modric ridiculously cleaned up every award.
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 2 minutes ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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Everyone?
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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La Liga averages less goals per game most seasons than the PL. It's always been a myth that Premier League defenses are better.
But I doubt that is the problem.
Completely agree with the article. Van Dijk has had a brilliant year and his best ever.
However, that isn't enough reason to say he's been better than a player that if anybody else bar Ronaldo had had the same season would be a shoe in for the award.
If it's based on last season, I'd say VVD is a deserved winner.
If based on this calendar year, probably not, he hasn't been the colossus he was last season.
Whilst he hasn't won a CL like VVD, Lewandowski has been ridiculously good.
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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La Liga averages less goals per game most seasons than the PL. It's always been a myth that Premier League defenses are better.
But I doubt that is the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about the defenses in Copa America. If Messi is made a poor Barca side become runaway La Liga champions then why could he not do it for his country?
It's a myth that this Barca side were poor. They are a excellent team who should have won the CL last season if it was not for Anfield facking them up.
VVD won the battle/war in the CL. Messi has great stats playing for a top side and she should be applauded for that.
I definitely think Van Dijk should win it because after all he was part of a brilliant team that won the CL.
However, I think there should be some sort of separate award that rewards individual brilliance, not just team success. Then maybe Messi would deserve to win that.
Van Dijk for me.
"VVD won the battle/war in the CL"
No, Liverpool won that battle vs Barca.
Lewandowski - CL & BL
18/19 - BL 33 Games 22 Goals 7 Assists
CL 8 Games 8 Goals 0 Assists
19/20 - BL 13 Games 16 Goals 1 Assist
CL 5 Games 10 Goals 0 Assists
Combined - 59 Games 56 Goals 8 assists
His ratios improve if you brings cups into the mix.
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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La Liga averages less goals per game most seasons than the PL. It's always been a myth that Premier League defenses are better.
But I doubt that is the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about the defenses in Copa America. If Messi is made a poor Barca side become runaway La Liga champions then why could he not do it for his country?
It's a myth that this Barca side were poor. They are a excellent team who should have won the CL last season if it was not for Anfield facking them up.
VVD won the battle/war in the CL. Messi has great stats playing for a top side and she should be applauded for that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree here. If Messi won Copa America he'd probably be more deserving.
Although Messi himself should have finished that tie in the first 20 at Anfield. So he doesn't get it on that alone for me.
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if vvd had to play messis position and messi in vvd position, vvd would do far better.
ergo hes the better player
comment by admin wouldnt let me have my chosen name (U20650)
posted 1 minute ago
if vvd had to play messis position and messi in vvd position, vvd would do far better.
ergo hes the better player
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I think that probably means Ederson is better than them both.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
----------------------------------------------------------------------
La Liga averages less goals per game most seasons than the PL. It's always been a myth that Premier League defenses are better.
But I doubt that is the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about the defenses in Copa America. If Messi is made a poor Barca side become runaway La Liga champions then why could he not do it for his country?
It's a myth that this Barca side were poor. They are a excellent team who should have won the CL last season if it was not for Anfield facking them up.
VVD won the battle/war in the CL. Messi has great stats playing for a top side and she should be applauded for that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree here. If Messi won Copa America he'd probably be more deserving.
Although Messi himself should have finished that tie in the first 20 at Anfield. So he doesn't get it on that alone for me.
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He dragged Barca to a great win at Camp Nou and put chances on a plate for the likes of Dembele and Vidal who missed. He put another couple of chances on a plate in the 2nd leg for Suarez and Alba who missed (though he himself missed one strange sitter early in the Anfield game where he failed to shoot with the goal gaping). Over the course of the 2 legs of that contest, he was by far the best player.
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 22 seconds ago
Although Messi himself should have finished that tie in the first 20 at Anfield.
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Should he? He had one three quarter chance when it was rolled back to him and he tried to put it over Allison. Then he had a chance in the second half when he shot straight at Allison from a tight angle.
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He had a couple of runs where his indecision cost him shooting/ creating chances too. Not like he missed buckets of direct chances but usually he'd have seen Barca score at least one from the positions he found himself in.;
In his defence his team mates should have scored the chances he did create.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by admin wouldnt let me have my chosen name (U20650)
posted 1 minute ago
if vvd had to play messis position and messi in vvd position, vvd would do far better.
ergo hes the better player
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I think that probably means Ederson is better than them both.
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nah, not good enough, alisson maybe
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
----------------------------------------------------------------------
La Liga averages less goals per game most seasons than the PL. It's always been a myth that Premier League defenses are better.
But I doubt that is the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about the defenses in Copa America. If Messi is made a poor Barca side become runaway La Liga champions then why could he not do it for his country?
It's a myth that this Barca side were poor. They are a excellent team who should have won the CL last season if it was not for Anfield facking them up.
VVD won the battle/war in the CL. Messi has great stats playing for a top side and she should be applauded for that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree here. If Messi won Copa America he'd probably be more deserving.
Although Messi himself should have finished that tie in the first 20 at Anfield. So he doesn't get it on that alone for me.
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He dragged Barca to a great win at Camp Nou and put chances on a plate for the likes of Dembele and Vidal who missed. He put another couple of chances on a plate in the 2nd leg for Suarez and Alba who missed (though he himself missed one strange sitter early in the Anfield game where he failed to shoot with the goal gaping). Over the course of the 2 legs of that contest, he was by far the best player.
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That's fair.
Just one of those special nights where everything went Liverpools way.
They should probably have won in Nou Camp though, or at least got a draw.
comment by admin wouldnt let me have my chosen name (U20650)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by admin wouldnt let me have my chosen name (U20650)
posted 1 minute ago
if vvd had to play messis position and messi in vvd position, vvd would do far better.
ergo hes the better player
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I think that probably means Ederson is better than them both.
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nah, not good enough, alisson maybe
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Okay, great.
Alisson better than Messi - who'd have thought it.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 22 seconds ago
Although Messi himself should have finished that tie in the first 20 at Anfield.
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Should he? He had one three quarter chance when it was rolled back to him and he tried to put it over Allison. Then he had a chance in the second half when he shot straight at Allison from a tight angle.
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He had a couple of runs where his indecision cost him shooting/ creating chances too. Not like he missed buckets of direct chances but usually he'd have seen Barca score at least one from the positions he found himself in.;
In his defence his team mates should have scored the chances he did create.
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wouldnt it be silly to count barcas missed chances but not the liverpool ones in the first leg?
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
----------------------------------------------------------------------
La Liga averages less goals per game most seasons than the PL. It's always been a myth that Premier League defenses are better.
But I doubt that is the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about the defenses in Copa America. If Messi is made a poor Barca side become runaway La Liga champions then why could he not do it for his country?
It's a myth that this Barca side were poor. They are a excellent team who should have won the CL last season if it was not for Anfield facking them up.
VVD won the battle/war in the CL. Messi has great stats playing for a top side and she should be applauded for that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree here. If Messi won Copa America he'd probably be more deserving.
Although Messi himself should have finished that tie in the first 20 at Anfield. So he doesn't get it on that alone for me.
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He dragged Barca to a great win at Camp Nou and put chances on a plate for the likes of Dembele and Vidal who missed. He put another couple of chances on a plate in the 2nd leg for Suarez and Alba who missed (though he himself missed one strange sitter early in the Anfield game where he failed to shoot with the goal gaping). Over the course of the 2 legs of that contest, he was by far the best player.
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Zero take ons against VVD
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
----------------------------------------------------------------------
La Liga averages less goals per game most seasons than the PL. It's always been a myth that Premier League defenses are better.
But I doubt that is the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about the defenses in Copa America. If Messi is made a poor Barca side become runaway La Liga champions then why could he not do it for his country?
It's a myth that this Barca side were poor. They are a excellent team who should have won the CL last season if it was not for Anfield facking them up.
VVD won the battle/war in the CL. Messi has great stats playing for a top side and she should be applauded for that.
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The myth there is he done nothing for his national team. Argentina as a team are a mess, probably worse than England when they had individual good players. Top players. But the management and lack of team ethic and style of play can be seen from miles away. Messi has won player of a tournament and a gold medal for them. Ronaldo has only won one euros and he didn’t even play the final.
Vvd certainly didn’t win the battle in the cl, Atleast in a head to head, Messi hardly put a foot wrong, scored two goals and set up numerous chances in the second leg.
Liverpool as a team better Barcelona as a team.
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posted on 2/12/19
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Roberto Tomkins (U1116)
posted 11 minutes ago
What did Van Dijk do in the Copa America?
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Watched a poor Messi while sat on the beach
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That was the Copa cobana
posted on 2/12/19
comment by TBone Steak Roysters (U3947)
posted 47 minutes ago
i don't know why VVD is even going there tonight. He should just chill at home we have a game on Wednesday.
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You can't be serious?
posted on 2/12/19
Agree with the OP entirely
posted on 2/12/19
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
posted on 2/12/19
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
I’d understand the argument if Messi scored 30 and got 10 assists. But the guy got outlandish results last year in a pretty crap Barca team. He was also the sole reason Liverpool didn’t smash Barca about 7-0 over two legs. If jordi alba or someone finished one of the chances he put on a plate in the second leg then they would have gone through.
Ridiculous season from Messi.
John Terry won the pfa player of the year, was he better than Ronaldinho? No. So he didn’t win ballon dor.
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It's people who don't know how spoilt they've been by the freakish consistency of Messi and Ronaldo for over a decade. Players like Zidane and fat Ronaldo and Shevchenko and Kaka and Nedved etc used to win Ballon D'Ors for FAR less than Messi has done this year, or even Ronaldo last year when Modric ridiculously cleaned up every award.
posted on 2/12/19
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 2 minutes ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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Everyone?
posted on 2/12/19
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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La Liga averages less goals per game most seasons than the PL. It's always been a myth that Premier League defenses are better.
But I doubt that is the problem.
posted on 2/12/19
Completely agree with the article. Van Dijk has had a brilliant year and his best ever.
However, that isn't enough reason to say he's been better than a player that if anybody else bar Ronaldo had had the same season would be a shoe in for the award.
posted on 2/12/19
If it's based on last season, I'd say VVD is a deserved winner.
If based on this calendar year, probably not, he hasn't been the colossus he was last season.
Whilst he hasn't won a CL like VVD, Lewandowski has been ridiculously good.
posted on 2/12/19
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
----------------------------------------------------------------------
La Liga averages less goals per game most seasons than the PL. It's always been a myth that Premier League defenses are better.
But I doubt that is the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about the defenses in Copa America. If Messi is made a poor Barca side become runaway La Liga champions then why could he not do it for his country?
It's a myth that this Barca side were poor. They are a excellent team who should have won the CL last season if it was not for Anfield facking them up.
VVD won the battle/war in the CL. Messi has great stats playing for a top side and she should be applauded for that.
posted on 2/12/19
I definitely think Van Dijk should win it because after all he was part of a brilliant team that won the CL.
However, I think there should be some sort of separate award that rewards individual brilliance, not just team success. Then maybe Messi would deserve to win that.
Van Dijk for me.
posted on 2/12/19
"VVD won the battle/war in the CL"
No, Liverpool won that battle vs Barca.
posted on 2/12/19
Lewandowski - CL & BL
18/19 - BL 33 Games 22 Goals 7 Assists
CL 8 Games 8 Goals 0 Assists
19/20 - BL 13 Games 16 Goals 1 Assist
CL 5 Games 10 Goals 0 Assists
Combined - 59 Games 56 Goals 8 assists
His ratios improve if you brings cups into the mix.
posted on 2/12/19
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
----------------------------------------------------------------------
La Liga averages less goals per game most seasons than the PL. It's always been a myth that Premier League defenses are better.
But I doubt that is the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about the defenses in Copa America. If Messi is made a poor Barca side become runaway La Liga champions then why could he not do it for his country?
It's a myth that this Barca side were poor. They are a excellent team who should have won the CL last season if it was not for Anfield facking them up.
VVD won the battle/war in the CL. Messi has great stats playing for a top side and she should be applauded for that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree here. If Messi won Copa America he'd probably be more deserving.
Although Messi himself should have finished that tie in the first 20 at Anfield. So he doesn't get it on that alone for me.
posted on 2/12/19
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 2/12/19
if vvd had to play messis position and messi in vvd position, vvd would do far better.
ergo hes the better player
posted on 2/12/19
comment by admin wouldnt let me have my chosen name (U20650)
posted 1 minute ago
if vvd had to play messis position and messi in vvd position, vvd would do far better.
ergo hes the better player
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I think that probably means Ederson is better than them both.
posted on 2/12/19
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
----------------------------------------------------------------------
La Liga averages less goals per game most seasons than the PL. It's always been a myth that Premier League defenses are better.
But I doubt that is the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about the defenses in Copa America. If Messi is made a poor Barca side become runaway La Liga champions then why could he not do it for his country?
It's a myth that this Barca side were poor. They are a excellent team who should have won the CL last season if it was not for Anfield facking them up.
VVD won the battle/war in the CL. Messi has great stats playing for a top side and she should be applauded for that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree here. If Messi won Copa America he'd probably be more deserving.
Although Messi himself should have finished that tie in the first 20 at Anfield. So he doesn't get it on that alone for me.
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He dragged Barca to a great win at Camp Nou and put chances on a plate for the likes of Dembele and Vidal who missed. He put another couple of chances on a plate in the 2nd leg for Suarez and Alba who missed (though he himself missed one strange sitter early in the Anfield game where he failed to shoot with the goal gaping). Over the course of the 2 legs of that contest, he was by far the best player.
posted on 2/12/19
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 22 seconds ago
Although Messi himself should have finished that tie in the first 20 at Anfield.
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Should he? He had one three quarter chance when it was rolled back to him and he tried to put it over Allison. Then he had a chance in the second half when he shot straight at Allison from a tight angle.
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He had a couple of runs where his indecision cost him shooting/ creating chances too. Not like he missed buckets of direct chances but usually he'd have seen Barca score at least one from the positions he found himself in.;
In his defence his team mates should have scored the chances he did create.
posted on 2/12/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by admin wouldnt let me have my chosen name (U20650)
posted 1 minute ago
if vvd had to play messis position and messi in vvd position, vvd would do far better.
ergo hes the better player
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I think that probably means Ederson is better than them both.
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nah, not good enough, alisson maybe
posted on 2/12/19
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
----------------------------------------------------------------------
La Liga averages less goals per game most seasons than the PL. It's always been a myth that Premier League defenses are better.
But I doubt that is the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about the defenses in Copa America. If Messi is made a poor Barca side become runaway La Liga champions then why could he not do it for his country?
It's a myth that this Barca side were poor. They are a excellent team who should have won the CL last season if it was not for Anfield facking them up.
VVD won the battle/war in the CL. Messi has great stats playing for a top side and she should be applauded for that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree here. If Messi won Copa America he'd probably be more deserving.
Although Messi himself should have finished that tie in the first 20 at Anfield. So he doesn't get it on that alone for me.
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He dragged Barca to a great win at Camp Nou and put chances on a plate for the likes of Dembele and Vidal who missed. He put another couple of chances on a plate in the 2nd leg for Suarez and Alba who missed (though he himself missed one strange sitter early in the Anfield game where he failed to shoot with the goal gaping). Over the course of the 2 legs of that contest, he was by far the best player.
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That's fair.
Just one of those special nights where everything went Liverpools way.
They should probably have won in Nou Camp though, or at least got a draw.
posted on 2/12/19
comment by admin wouldnt let me have my chosen name (U20650)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by admin wouldnt let me have my chosen name (U20650)
posted 1 minute ago
if vvd had to play messis position and messi in vvd position, vvd would do far better.
ergo hes the better player
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I think that probably means Ederson is better than them both.
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nah, not good enough, alisson maybe
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Okay, great.
Alisson better than Messi - who'd have thought it.
posted on 2/12/19
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 22 seconds ago
Although Messi himself should have finished that tie in the first 20 at Anfield.
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Should he? He had one three quarter chance when it was rolled back to him and he tried to put it over Allison. Then he had a chance in the second half when he shot straight at Allison from a tight angle.
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He had a couple of runs where his indecision cost him shooting/ creating chances too. Not like he missed buckets of direct chances but usually he'd have seen Barca score at least one from the positions he found himself in.;
In his defence his team mates should have scored the chances he did create.
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wouldnt it be silly to count barcas missed chances but not the liverpool ones in the first leg?
posted on 2/12/19
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
----------------------------------------------------------------------
La Liga averages less goals per game most seasons than the PL. It's always been a myth that Premier League defenses are better.
But I doubt that is the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about the defenses in Copa America. If Messi is made a poor Barca side become runaway La Liga champions then why could he not do it for his country?
It's a myth that this Barca side were poor. They are a excellent team who should have won the CL last season if it was not for Anfield facking them up.
VVD won the battle/war in the CL. Messi has great stats playing for a top side and she should be applauded for that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree here. If Messi won Copa America he'd probably be more deserving.
Although Messi himself should have finished that tie in the first 20 at Anfield. So he doesn't get it on that alone for me.
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He dragged Barca to a great win at Camp Nou and put chances on a plate for the likes of Dembele and Vidal who missed. He put another couple of chances on a plate in the 2nd leg for Suarez and Alba who missed (though he himself missed one strange sitter early in the Anfield game where he failed to shoot with the goal gaping). Over the course of the 2 legs of that contest, he was by far the best player.
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Zero take ons against VVD
posted on 2/12/19
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 1 minute ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
----------------------------------------------------------------------
La Liga averages less goals per game most seasons than the PL. It's always been a myth that Premier League defenses are better.
But I doubt that is the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about the defenses in Copa America. If Messi is made a poor Barca side become runaway La Liga champions then why could he not do it for his country?
It's a myth that this Barca side were poor. They are a excellent team who should have won the CL last season if it was not for Anfield facking them up.
VVD won the battle/war in the CL. Messi has great stats playing for a top side and she should be applauded for that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The myth there is he done nothing for his national team. Argentina as a team are a mess, probably worse than England when they had individual good players. Top players. But the management and lack of team ethic and style of play can be seen from miles away. Messi has won player of a tournament and a gold medal for them. Ronaldo has only won one euros and he didn’t even play the final.
Vvd certainly didn’t win the battle in the cl, Atleast in a head to head, Messi hardly put a foot wrong, scored two goals and set up numerous chances in the second leg.
Liverpool as a team better Barcelona as a team.
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