comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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La Liga is a shte league with shte defenders. Watching midget centre backs who are very slow in 1v1 says everything about that league.
Mustafi is a prime example of a defender who was very good at Valencia but shte at Arsenal.
Savic was an average defender at City but did well at Atletico M.
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Then why is it only Messi and Ronaldo posting bucket loads every season and not all the other attacking players in the league?
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ffs the comment was ridiculous wasn't it.
6 out of the last 10 winners of the champioins league.
5 out of the last 10 years winners of europa.
Spanish league in terms of quality is still probably the best in europe, maybe not the last two years but thats a debate for another day.
To be fair PL defences are garbage. No one is saying there are world class defenders in the Prem like there are in Serie A. if there were would the likes of Liverpool only have 2 clean sheets this season? Liverpool are good because they outscore the opposition because they have world class ATTACKING talent, not because they are solid defensively. I think any Liverpool fan would tell you that. Now what was the topic again?
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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La Liga is a shte league with shte defenders. Watching midget centre backs who are very slow in 1v1 says everything about that league.
Mustafi is a prime example of a defender who was very good at Valencia but shte at Arsenal.
Savic was an average defender at City but did well at Atletico M.
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I've known Mustafi long before he became an Arsenal player and he was always a rash, rather brainless defender. Gary Neville said the Valencia board told him they laughed their arses off when Arsenal came in with the late transfer bid for Mustafi. I was saying it on the Arsenal board here at the time that he was no better than Gabriel who we sold back to La Liga, and that was based on Mustafi's La Liga performances. So I'm not sure where you got the crap about how he was "very good at Valencia".
Man City signed Savic at 20-years-old from the Serbian league and spent only one season where he played a dozen games that season and won the league. And that is some proof that he was some kind of flop? You twaaat
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 9 minutes ago
Can have no complaints if Messi does win it, on the other hand VVD deserves it too. Ramos deserved to win it one of the years he was carrying RM in the CL
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Nobody other than Ronaldo has ever carried Real Madrid (was a disgrace how Ronaldo was robbed of awards last year because of fatigue towards him and Messi winning it every year). The reality is no one else besides Ronaldo and Messi have deserved the Ballon D'Or over the last decade. No one. Closest was Sneijder when Inter won the treble, but his role in that exceedingly well drilled Inter side was well exaggerated. His performances weren't in Messi's class, or even as good as Xavi and Iniesta.
Salah flopped in Italy. Walks the prem cause it's a garbage league. De Bruyne making the prem look like piece of pissss after flopping in Germany.
At least Van Dijk has pruv it in the toughest league in the world up in Scotland.
neither flopped in those leagues
Are we seriously debating whether Messi was better than Van Dijk last season? What is the world coming to? It isn't even a close contest
comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Salah flopped in Italy. Walks the prem cause it's a garbage league. De Bruyne making the prem look like piece of pissss after flopping in Germany.
At least Van Dijk has pruv it in the toughest league in the world up in Scotland.
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Van Dijk flopped in Scotland as well.
Van Dijk struggled in a proper physical league where tackling is legal. Has it easy in the weak PL so looks good.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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La Liga is a shte league with shte defenders. Watching midget centre backs who are very slow in 1v1 says everything about that league.
Mustafi is a prime example of a defender who was very good at Valencia but shte at Arsenal.
Savic was an average defender at City but did well at Atletico M.
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Then why is it only Messi and Ronaldo posting bucket loads every season and not all the other attacking players in the league?
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ffs the comment was ridiculous wasn't it.
6 out of the last 10 winners of the champioins league.
5 out of the last 10 years winners of europa.
Spanish league in terms of quality is still probably the best in europe, maybe not the last two years but thats a debate for another day.
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Hazard, one of the most productive players in England over the last few seasons has just 1 goal and 1 assist this season so far in La Liga. He had 16 goals and 15 assists in the PL alone last season. Also had 12, 16, 14 and 14 in the last couple of seasons in the PL alone. Yet, some are still under the delusion that the PL is this tough league of blood-and-guts defending and physicality while La Liga defenses are just the sunny SPL version. Facking idiots.
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comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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La Liga is a shte league with shte defenders. Watching midget centre backs who are very slow in 1v1 says everything about that league.
Mustafi is a prime example of a defender who was very good at Valencia but shte at Arsenal.
Savic was an average defender at City but did well at Atletico M.
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Then why is it only Messi and Ronaldo posting bucket loads every season and not all the other attacking players in the league?
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ffs the comment was ridiculous wasn't it.
6 out of the last 10 winners of the champioins league.
5 out of the last 10 years winners of europa.
Spanish league in terms of quality is still probably the best in europe, maybe not the last two years but thats a debate for another day.
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Hazard, one of the most productive players in England over the last few seasons has just 1 goal and 1 assist this season so far in La Liga. He had 16 goals and 15 assists in the PL alone last season. Also had 12, 16, 14 and 14 in the last couple of seasons in the PL alone. Yet, some are still under the delusion that the PL is this tough league of blood-and-guts defending and physicality while La Liga defenses are just the sunny SPL version. Facking idiots.
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Tbf though this goes back your comment about how defenders aren't as talented as attackers, and because most people believe that, and don't watch la liga outside Real and Barca, that's where the myth and delusion comes from.
I think Van Dijk produced arguably one of the best defensive seasons in generations.
PFA Player of the Year
Best defence on the entire continent.
And didn’t get taken on once - even though he came up against:
Aubamayang
Sterling
Aguero
Kane
Son
Lewandowski
Neymar
Mbappe
Suarez
Messi
It ended with a man of the match display at the pinnacle of our sport.
Steven Gerrard described his performances over the last 12 months as perfect. I agree.
Even for the Dutch, he has shown his prowess.
Messi, along with Ronaldo are the two best players to have played the game but Van Dijk was the best player of the last 12 months.
why do people keep going on about this taken on stat, im pretty sure it was debunked.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 9 minutes ago
why do people keep going on about this taken on stat, im pretty sure it was debunked.
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Because it’s true.
Running to the side and passing the ball is not taking a player on.
You simply can’t get past Big Virg.
How on Earth is Mahrez in the top 10?
Mane should win. No contest. The boy is a genius.
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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La Liga is a shte league with shte defenders. Watching midget centre backs who are very slow in 1v1 says everything about that league.
Mustafi is a prime example of a defender who was very good at Valencia but shte at Arsenal.
Savic was an average defender at City but did well at Atletico M.
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Then why is it only Messi and Ronaldo posting bucket loads every season and not all the other attacking players in the league?
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ffs the comment was ridiculous wasn't it.
6 out of the last 10 winners of the champioins league.
5 out of the last 10 years winners of europa.
Spanish league in terms of quality is still probably the best in europe, maybe not the last two years but thats a debate for another day.
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Hazard, one of the most productive players in England over the last few seasons has just 1 goal and 1 assist this season so far in La Liga. He had 16 goals and 15 assists in the PL alone last season. Also had 12, 16, 14 and 14 in the last couple of seasons in the PL alone. Yet, some are still under the delusion that the PL is this tough league of blood-and-guts defending and physicality while La Liga defenses are just the sunny SPL version. Facking idiots.
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I watch every La Liga game as those facking poor paella games are showed here on the dutch tv.
The Alaves, Eibar, Granada type of games are facking poor. Salah, Mane would have a field day playing against those league 2 level teams. Hazard is poor and is a lazy fat bstrd now. The old Hazard in his prime would score 30 goals.
The PL is the best in the world and if Messi wants to be recognized as the best ever he should come to the PL or Serie A were they can defend.
Barca and Madrid are the only spanish teams which have won the CL.
Even Aston and Nottingham have won big ears.
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 24 minutes ago
How on Earth is Mahrez in the top 10?
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Won the Africa cup of nations.
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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La Liga is a shte league with shte defenders. Watching midget centre backs who are very slow in 1v1 says everything about that league.
Mustafi is a prime example of a defender who was very good at Valencia but shte at Arsenal.
Savic was an average defender at City but did well at Atletico M.
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Then why is it only Messi and Ronaldo posting bucket loads every season and not all the other attacking players in the league?
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ffs the comment was ridiculous wasn't it.
6 out of the last 10 winners of the champioins league.
5 out of the last 10 years winners of europa.
Spanish league in terms of quality is still probably the best in europe, maybe not the last two years but thats a debate for another day.
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Hazard, one of the most productive players in England over the last few seasons has just 1 goal and 1 assist this season so far in La Liga. He had 16 goals and 15 assists in the PL alone last season. Also had 12, 16, 14 and 14 in the last couple of seasons in the PL alone. Yet, some are still under the delusion that the PL is this tough league of blood-and-guts defending and physicality while La Liga defenses are just the sunny SPL version. Facking idiots.
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Hazard scored 6 goals in 46 games for Chelsea in the 15/16 season. There’s more to it than just saying La Liga is better because Hazard is struggling. How many players have done well in Spain but awful in the Prem? Countless players, Morata most recently to my thinking
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 24 minutes ago
How on Earth is Mahrez in the top 10?
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Won the Africa cup of nations.
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Are you saying he had a better 12 months than Raheem Sterling ?
As opposed to Coutinho, Dembele and others who are flopping in la Liga
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 24 minutes ago
How on Earth is Mahrez in the top 10?
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Won the Africa cup of nations.
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Are you saying he had a better 12 months than Raheem Sterling ?
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I’m saying he won the Africa cup of nations that’s why he’s in the top 10.
Messi all day long. Vvd second is fine. He's done fack all for Holland, if we're measuring Messi on what he's done for Argentina
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posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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La Liga is a shte league with shte defenders. Watching midget centre backs who are very slow in 1v1 says everything about that league.
Mustafi is a prime example of a defender who was very good at Valencia but shte at Arsenal.
Savic was an average defender at City but did well at Atletico M.
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Then why is it only Messi and Ronaldo posting bucket loads every season and not all the other attacking players in the league?
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ffs the comment was ridiculous wasn't it.
6 out of the last 10 winners of the champioins league.
5 out of the last 10 years winners of europa.
Spanish league in terms of quality is still probably the best in europe, maybe not the last two years but thats a debate for another day.
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Hazard, one of the most productive players in England over the last few seasons has just 1 goal and 1 assist this season so far in La Liga. He had 16 goals and 15 assists in the PL alone last season. Also had 12, 16, 14 and 14 in the last couple of seasons in the PL alone. Yet, some are still under the delusion that the PL is this tough league of blood-and-guts defending and physicality while La Liga defenses are just the sunny SPL version. Facking idiots.
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Hazard scored 6 goals in 46 games for Chelsea in the 15/16 season. There’s more to it than just saying La Liga is better because Hazard is struggling. How many players have done well in Spain but awful in the Prem? Countless players, Morata most recently to my thinking
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That was one flop season in his last 5. Even Hazard's start in England as a young, inexperienced player was better than his current start in Madrid. David Silva, a talented player I always admired stepped it up in England. McManaman, Beckham and Owen all had far better scoring records in England than in Spain. Torres had a far better record in Liverpool than in Spain. Aguero's scoring record in England is far better than in Spain. There are countless examples too. The bottomline like I said is La Liga averages less goals than the Premier League most seasons. Which busts the myth of La Liga being some kind of free scoring, sunny SPL or Eredivisie.
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posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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La Liga is a shte league with shte defenders. Watching midget centre backs who are very slow in 1v1 says everything about that league.
Mustafi is a prime example of a defender who was very good at Valencia but shte at Arsenal.
Savic was an average defender at City but did well at Atletico M.
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Then why is it only Messi and Ronaldo posting bucket loads every season and not all the other attacking players in the league?
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ffs the comment was ridiculous wasn't it.
6 out of the last 10 winners of the champioins league.
5 out of the last 10 years winners of europa.
Spanish league in terms of quality is still probably the best in europe, maybe not the last two years but thats a debate for another day.
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Hazard, one of the most productive players in England over the last few seasons has just 1 goal and 1 assist this season so far in La Liga. He had 16 goals and 15 assists in the PL alone last season. Also had 12, 16, 14 and 14 in the last couple of seasons in the PL alone. Yet, some are still under the delusion that the PL is this tough league of blood-and-guts defending and physicality while La Liga defenses are just the sunny SPL version. Facking idiots.
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I watch every La Liga game as those facking poor paella games are showed here on the dutch tv.
The Alaves, Eibar, Granada type of games are facking poor. Salah, Mane would have a field day playing against those league 2 level teams. Hazard is poor and is a lazy fat bstrd now. The old Hazard in his prime would score 30 goals.
The PL is the best in the world and if Messi wants to be recognized as the best ever he should come to the PL or Serie A were they can defend.
Barca and Madrid are the only spanish teams which have won the CL.
Even Aston and Nottingham have won big ears.
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Yeah, and Real Madrid have won more than all British teams combined. Whose fault that they're that good.
Yeah, because Messi would not absolutely run riot against the Derbys and Sunderlands and Cardiffs of the league. You're quite the comedian.
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Ballon d'Or: van Dijk deserves it?
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posted on 2/12/19
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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La Liga is a shte league with shte defenders. Watching midget centre backs who are very slow in 1v1 says everything about that league.
Mustafi is a prime example of a defender who was very good at Valencia but shte at Arsenal.
Savic was an average defender at City but did well at Atletico M.
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Then why is it only Messi and Ronaldo posting bucket loads every season and not all the other attacking players in the league?
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ffs the comment was ridiculous wasn't it.
6 out of the last 10 winners of the champioins league.
5 out of the last 10 years winners of europa.
Spanish league in terms of quality is still probably the best in europe, maybe not the last two years but thats a debate for another day.
posted on 2/12/19
To be fair PL defences are garbage. No one is saying there are world class defenders in the Prem like there are in Serie A. if there were would the likes of Liverpool only have 2 clean sheets this season? Liverpool are good because they outscore the opposition because they have world class ATTACKING talent, not because they are solid defensively. I think any Liverpool fan would tell you that. Now what was the topic again?
posted on 2/12/19
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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La Liga is a shte league with shte defenders. Watching midget centre backs who are very slow in 1v1 says everything about that league.
Mustafi is a prime example of a defender who was very good at Valencia but shte at Arsenal.
Savic was an average defender at City but did well at Atletico M.
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I've known Mustafi long before he became an Arsenal player and he was always a rash, rather brainless defender. Gary Neville said the Valencia board told him they laughed their arses off when Arsenal came in with the late transfer bid for Mustafi. I was saying it on the Arsenal board here at the time that he was no better than Gabriel who we sold back to La Liga, and that was based on Mustafi's La Liga performances. So I'm not sure where you got the crap about how he was "very good at Valencia".
Man City signed Savic at 20-years-old from the Serbian league and spent only one season where he played a dozen games that season and won the league. And that is some proof that he was some kind of flop? You twaaat
posted on 2/12/19
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 9 minutes ago
Can have no complaints if Messi does win it, on the other hand VVD deserves it too. Ramos deserved to win it one of the years he was carrying RM in the CL
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Nobody other than Ronaldo has ever carried Real Madrid (was a disgrace how Ronaldo was robbed of awards last year because of fatigue towards him and Messi winning it every year). The reality is no one else besides Ronaldo and Messi have deserved the Ballon D'Or over the last decade. No one. Closest was Sneijder when Inter won the treble, but his role in that exceedingly well drilled Inter side was well exaggerated. His performances weren't in Messi's class, or even as good as Xavi and Iniesta.
posted on 2/12/19
Salah flopped in Italy. Walks the prem cause it's a garbage league. De Bruyne making the prem look like piece of pissss after flopping in Germany.
At least Van Dijk has pruv it in the toughest league in the world up in Scotland.
posted on 2/12/19
neither flopped in those leagues
posted on 2/12/19
Are we seriously debating whether Messi was better than Van Dijk last season? What is the world coming to? It isn't even a close contest
posted on 2/12/19
comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Salah flopped in Italy. Walks the prem cause it's a garbage league. De Bruyne making the prem look like piece of pissss after flopping in Germany.
At least Van Dijk has pruv it in the toughest league in the world up in Scotland.
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Van Dijk flopped in Scotland as well.
posted on 2/12/19
Van Dijk struggled in a proper physical league where tackling is legal. Has it easy in the weak PL so looks good.
posted on 2/12/19
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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La Liga is a shte league with shte defenders. Watching midget centre backs who are very slow in 1v1 says everything about that league.
Mustafi is a prime example of a defender who was very good at Valencia but shte at Arsenal.
Savic was an average defender at City but did well at Atletico M.
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Then why is it only Messi and Ronaldo posting bucket loads every season and not all the other attacking players in the league?
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ffs the comment was ridiculous wasn't it.
6 out of the last 10 winners of the champioins league.
5 out of the last 10 years winners of europa.
Spanish league in terms of quality is still probably the best in europe, maybe not the last two years but thats a debate for another day.
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Hazard, one of the most productive players in England over the last few seasons has just 1 goal and 1 assist this season so far in La Liga. He had 16 goals and 15 assists in the PL alone last season. Also had 12, 16, 14 and 14 in the last couple of seasons in the PL alone. Yet, some are still under the delusion that the PL is this tough league of blood-and-guts defending and physicality while La Liga defenses are just the sunny SPL version. Facking idiots.
posted on 2/12/19
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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La Liga is a shte league with shte defenders. Watching midget centre backs who are very slow in 1v1 says everything about that league.
Mustafi is a prime example of a defender who was very good at Valencia but shte at Arsenal.
Savic was an average defender at City but did well at Atletico M.
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Then why is it only Messi and Ronaldo posting bucket loads every season and not all the other attacking players in the league?
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ffs the comment was ridiculous wasn't it.
6 out of the last 10 winners of the champioins league.
5 out of the last 10 years winners of europa.
Spanish league in terms of quality is still probably the best in europe, maybe not the last two years but thats a debate for another day.
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Hazard, one of the most productive players in England over the last few seasons has just 1 goal and 1 assist this season so far in La Liga. He had 16 goals and 15 assists in the PL alone last season. Also had 12, 16, 14 and 14 in the last couple of seasons in the PL alone. Yet, some are still under the delusion that the PL is this tough league of blood-and-guts defending and physicality while La Liga defenses are just the sunny SPL version. Facking idiots.
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Tbf though this goes back your comment about how defenders aren't as talented as attackers, and because most people believe that, and don't watch la liga outside Real and Barca, that's where the myth and delusion comes from.
posted on 2/12/19
I think Van Dijk produced arguably one of the best defensive seasons in generations.
PFA Player of the Year
Best defence on the entire continent.
And didn’t get taken on once - even though he came up against:
Aubamayang
Sterling
Aguero
Kane
Son
Lewandowski
Neymar
Mbappe
Suarez
Messi
It ended with a man of the match display at the pinnacle of our sport.
Steven Gerrard described his performances over the last 12 months as perfect. I agree.
Even for the Dutch, he has shown his prowess.
Messi, along with Ronaldo are the two best players to have played the game but Van Dijk was the best player of the last 12 months.
posted on 2/12/19
why do people keep going on about this taken on stat, im pretty sure it was debunked.
posted on 2/12/19
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 9 minutes ago
why do people keep going on about this taken on stat, im pretty sure it was debunked.
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Because it’s true.
Running to the side and passing the ball is not taking a player on.
You simply can’t get past Big Virg.
posted on 2/12/19
How on Earth is Mahrez in the top 10?
posted on 2/12/19
Mane should win. No contest. The boy is a genius.
posted on 2/12/19
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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La Liga is a shte league with shte defenders. Watching midget centre backs who are very slow in 1v1 says everything about that league.
Mustafi is a prime example of a defender who was very good at Valencia but shte at Arsenal.
Savic was an average defender at City but did well at Atletico M.
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Then why is it only Messi and Ronaldo posting bucket loads every season and not all the other attacking players in the league?
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ffs the comment was ridiculous wasn't it.
6 out of the last 10 winners of the champioins league.
5 out of the last 10 years winners of europa.
Spanish league in terms of quality is still probably the best in europe, maybe not the last two years but thats a debate for another day.
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Hazard, one of the most productive players in England over the last few seasons has just 1 goal and 1 assist this season so far in La Liga. He had 16 goals and 15 assists in the PL alone last season. Also had 12, 16, 14 and 14 in the last couple of seasons in the PL alone. Yet, some are still under the delusion that the PL is this tough league of blood-and-guts defending and physicality while La Liga defenses are just the sunny SPL version. Facking idiots.
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I watch every La Liga game as those facking poor paella games are showed here on the dutch tv.
The Alaves, Eibar, Granada type of games are facking poor. Salah, Mane would have a field day playing against those league 2 level teams. Hazard is poor and is a lazy fat bstrd now. The old Hazard in his prime would score 30 goals.
The PL is the best in the world and if Messi wants to be recognized as the best ever he should come to the PL or Serie A were they can defend.
Barca and Madrid are the only spanish teams which have won the CL.
Even Aston and Nottingham have won big ears.
posted on 2/12/19
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 24 minutes ago
How on Earth is Mahrez in the top 10?
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Won the Africa cup of nations.
posted on 2/12/19
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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La Liga is a shte league with shte defenders. Watching midget centre backs who are very slow in 1v1 says everything about that league.
Mustafi is a prime example of a defender who was very good at Valencia but shte at Arsenal.
Savic was an average defender at City but did well at Atletico M.
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Then why is it only Messi and Ronaldo posting bucket loads every season and not all the other attacking players in the league?
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ffs the comment was ridiculous wasn't it.
6 out of the last 10 winners of the champioins league.
5 out of the last 10 years winners of europa.
Spanish league in terms of quality is still probably the best in europe, maybe not the last two years but thats a debate for another day.
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Hazard, one of the most productive players in England over the last few seasons has just 1 goal and 1 assist this season so far in La Liga. He had 16 goals and 15 assists in the PL alone last season. Also had 12, 16, 14 and 14 in the last couple of seasons in the PL alone. Yet, some are still under the delusion that the PL is this tough league of blood-and-guts defending and physicality while La Liga defenses are just the sunny SPL version. Facking idiots.
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Hazard scored 6 goals in 46 games for Chelsea in the 15/16 season. There’s more to it than just saying La Liga is better because Hazard is struggling. How many players have done well in Spain but awful in the Prem? Countless players, Morata most recently to my thinking
posted on 2/12/19
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 24 minutes ago
How on Earth is Mahrez in the top 10?
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Won the Africa cup of nations.
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Are you saying he had a better 12 months than Raheem Sterling ?
posted on 2/12/19
As opposed to Coutinho, Dembele and others who are flopping in la Liga
posted on 2/12/19
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 24 minutes ago
How on Earth is Mahrez in the top 10?
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Won the Africa cup of nations.
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Are you saying he had a better 12 months than Raheem Sterling ?
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I’m saying he won the Africa cup of nations that’s why he’s in the top 10.
posted on 2/12/19
Messi all day long. Vvd second is fine. He's done fack all for Holland, if we're measuring Messi on what he's done for Argentina
posted on 2/12/19
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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La Liga is a shte league with shte defenders. Watching midget centre backs who are very slow in 1v1 says everything about that league.
Mustafi is a prime example of a defender who was very good at Valencia but shte at Arsenal.
Savic was an average defender at City but did well at Atletico M.
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Then why is it only Messi and Ronaldo posting bucket loads every season and not all the other attacking players in the league?
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ffs the comment was ridiculous wasn't it.
6 out of the last 10 winners of the champioins league.
5 out of the last 10 years winners of europa.
Spanish league in terms of quality is still probably the best in europe, maybe not the last two years but thats a debate for another day.
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Hazard, one of the most productive players in England over the last few seasons has just 1 goal and 1 assist this season so far in La Liga. He had 16 goals and 15 assists in the PL alone last season. Also had 12, 16, 14 and 14 in the last couple of seasons in the PL alone. Yet, some are still under the delusion that the PL is this tough league of blood-and-guts defending and physicality while La Liga defenses are just the sunny SPL version. Facking idiots.
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Hazard scored 6 goals in 46 games for Chelsea in the 15/16 season. There’s more to it than just saying La Liga is better because Hazard is struggling. How many players have done well in Spain but awful in the Prem? Countless players, Morata most recently to my thinking
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That was one flop season in his last 5. Even Hazard's start in England as a young, inexperienced player was better than his current start in Madrid. David Silva, a talented player I always admired stepped it up in England. McManaman, Beckham and Owen all had far better scoring records in England than in Spain. Torres had a far better record in Liverpool than in Spain. Aguero's scoring record in England is far better than in Spain. There are countless examples too. The bottomline like I said is La Liga averages less goals than the Premier League most seasons. Which busts the myth of La Liga being some kind of free scoring, sunny SPL or Eredivisie.
posted on 2/12/19
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Emery OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mane Man (U19731)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Freddie (U21076)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Problem is that everyone thinks la liga is s****, with s*** defenders otherwise Messi would get more recognition
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La Liga is a shte league with shte defenders. Watching midget centre backs who are very slow in 1v1 says everything about that league.
Mustafi is a prime example of a defender who was very good at Valencia but shte at Arsenal.
Savic was an average defender at City but did well at Atletico M.
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Then why is it only Messi and Ronaldo posting bucket loads every season and not all the other attacking players in the league?
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ffs the comment was ridiculous wasn't it.
6 out of the last 10 winners of the champioins league.
5 out of the last 10 years winners of europa.
Spanish league in terms of quality is still probably the best in europe, maybe not the last two years but thats a debate for another day.
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Hazard, one of the most productive players in England over the last few seasons has just 1 goal and 1 assist this season so far in La Liga. He had 16 goals and 15 assists in the PL alone last season. Also had 12, 16, 14 and 14 in the last couple of seasons in the PL alone. Yet, some are still under the delusion that the PL is this tough league of blood-and-guts defending and physicality while La Liga defenses are just the sunny SPL version. Facking idiots.
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I watch every La Liga game as those facking poor paella games are showed here on the dutch tv.
The Alaves, Eibar, Granada type of games are facking poor. Salah, Mane would have a field day playing against those league 2 level teams. Hazard is poor and is a lazy fat bstrd now. The old Hazard in his prime would score 30 goals.
The PL is the best in the world and if Messi wants to be recognized as the best ever he should come to the PL or Serie A were they can defend.
Barca and Madrid are the only spanish teams which have won the CL.
Even Aston and Nottingham have won big ears.
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Yeah, and Real Madrid have won more than all British teams combined. Whose fault that they're that good.
Yeah, because Messi would not absolutely run riot against the Derbys and Sunderlands and Cardiffs of the league. You're quite the comedian.
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