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Jose has had long enough to at least make some progress defensively... but we're as bad as ever. He has to take some responsibility for the shambolic defending.
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its an absolute joke now. I assumed it was the manager.... the jokey goals we were conceding under Poch.. but now under a more pragmatic defensive assured manager like Mourinho we are just as bad... so it has to be the players.
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Great article and this paragraph just about sums it all up. The team is stale, needed freshening up a while ago
Need to have a new GK, RB, LB, CB and DM for start of next season 100%, dm and RB vital for january
Sanchez the pick for me. Looked so good (albeit a bit raw) when we signed him. He’s honestly gone so far backwards I think he’s struggle in the Championship.
Hugo - better than gazza but not good enough on the ball and makes too many clangers, still a great shot stopper for the most part but we need better now.
Gazza - proved against chelsea that he also has a clanger in him which seemed to be the only thing he had over hugo, handling is poor and there are only so many times you can say that "he couldn't have done much more there" before you start to question his positioning. Fine as a backup but definitely not a starter for a champions league club.
Aurier - less said the better. Needs to be sold.
KWP - lack of game time has ruined him, not good enough defensively and not a good enough athlete to make the most of his relatively good ability. Maybe could be a deputy for the obviously needed new RB but he might not even be qualified for that.
Toby - our best CB but definitely not the same player he once was. Lost a step but I'm not gonna be overly critical - feels very difficult to effectively judge any of our CBs when they are constantly up against it.
Verts - im gonna revoke my comment about it being too difficult to effectively judge any of our CBs and say that he's past it. No longer looks comfortable on the ball, very creaky due to the age. Was initially in favour of another 1 year extension but I think it's probably time to move on
Sanchez - recovery pace seems to be his only real strength. Not a standout defender in any other category and just never gonna be good enough on the ball.
Foyth - very raw, makes a lot of mistakes. Has the ability on the ball though. I probably think of him too highly but I think he just needs game time and we need to be patient. Still young for a CB
Dier - would like to see him here just out of curiosity as it's clear that he doesn't have it as a midfielder. Started to look a bit fitter in recent games and it's only when he's facing his own goal that he looks like a genuinely awful ball player, because of his cruise ship turning speed. When he's facing forward though he has shown the ability to pick a pass
Davies - historically been a pretty meh player under poch due to his lack of athleticism or end product but obviously can't evaluate him yet under jose due to the injury. Feels like a good fit for the hybrid LB/LCB role though.
Rose - had a trippier style season where he's been individually responsible for a number of goals. Says he wont leave until his contract is up but we should be looking to replace him ASAP.
Sessegnon - think he's very promising but might end up further forward. Thought he was fine today despite what some were saying, already a very intelligent player who plays with a real maturity for his age
Wish we still had Tripps for this season. How’s he doing at Atletico?
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 55 seconds ago
Wish we still had Tripps for this season. How’s he doing at Atletico?
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Fine but that's to be expected. He'd have still been poor for us if he stayed
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you (U7905)
posted 40 minutes ago
Jose has had long enough to at least make some progress defensively... but we're as bad as ever. He has to take some responsibility for the shambolic defending.
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You mean like Pep did when he spunked £200 mill improving his defence. Also by Mourinho’s admission he has barely had time to work with his team.
There is only so much a manager can do. He needs the tools to work with and a few of our players are just not good enough.
Chronic I agree, need a whole new defence, and goalie in all probability. Sessignon I don`t really rate, still young, but certainly not up to it at the moment.
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 55 seconds ago
Wish we still had Tripps for this season. How’s he doing at Atletico?
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Fine but that's to be expected. He'd have still been poor for us if he stayed
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Doubt Tripps will be exposed as much as he would have been with us.
comment by Kane and Able(previously Once Bale leaves..) (U12707)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you (U7905)
posted 40 minutes ago
Jose has had long enough to at least make some progress defensively... but we're as bad as ever. He has to take some responsibility for the shambolic defending.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You mean like Pep did when he spunked £200 mill improving his defence. Also by Mourinho’s admission he has barely had time to work with his team.
There is only so much a manager can do. He needs the tools to work with and a few of our players are just not good enough.
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I am sure Mourinho can see what a car crash of a defence he has been left with by the previous manager, and will improve it over two or three windows. Rome was not built in the day.
Forgot about KWP. He is another one for the transfer list
comment by Kane and Able(previously Once Bale leaves..) (U12707)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 55 seconds ago
Wish we still had Tripps for this season. How’s he doing at Atletico?
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Fine but that's to be expected. He'd have still been poor for us if he stayed
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Doubt Tripps will be exposed as much as he would have been with us.
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Exaclty
Agree with all of this. Unfortunately your man Levy will not do what is required to fix it 👍
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posted on 28/12/19
Jose has had long enough to at least make some progress defensively... but we're as bad as ever. He has to take some responsibility for the shambolic defending.
posted on 28/12/19
——————
its an absolute joke now. I assumed it was the manager.... the jokey goals we were conceding under Poch.. but now under a more pragmatic defensive assured manager like Mourinho we are just as bad... so it has to be the players.
——————
Great article and this paragraph just about sums it all up. The team is stale, needed freshening up a while ago
posted on 28/12/19
Need to have a new GK, RB, LB, CB and DM for start of next season 100%, dm and RB vital for january
posted on 28/12/19
Sanchez the pick for me. Looked so good (albeit a bit raw) when we signed him. He’s honestly gone so far backwards I think he’s struggle in the Championship.
posted on 28/12/19
Hugo - better than gazza but not good enough on the ball and makes too many clangers, still a great shot stopper for the most part but we need better now.
Gazza - proved against chelsea that he also has a clanger in him which seemed to be the only thing he had over hugo, handling is poor and there are only so many times you can say that "he couldn't have done much more there" before you start to question his positioning. Fine as a backup but definitely not a starter for a champions league club.
Aurier - less said the better. Needs to be sold.
KWP - lack of game time has ruined him, not good enough defensively and not a good enough athlete to make the most of his relatively good ability. Maybe could be a deputy for the obviously needed new RB but he might not even be qualified for that.
Toby - our best CB but definitely not the same player he once was. Lost a step but I'm not gonna be overly critical - feels very difficult to effectively judge any of our CBs when they are constantly up against it.
Verts - im gonna revoke my comment about it being too difficult to effectively judge any of our CBs and say that he's past it. No longer looks comfortable on the ball, very creaky due to the age. Was initially in favour of another 1 year extension but I think it's probably time to move on
Sanchez - recovery pace seems to be his only real strength. Not a standout defender in any other category and just never gonna be good enough on the ball.
Foyth - very raw, makes a lot of mistakes. Has the ability on the ball though. I probably think of him too highly but I think he just needs game time and we need to be patient. Still young for a CB
Dier - would like to see him here just out of curiosity as it's clear that he doesn't have it as a midfielder. Started to look a bit fitter in recent games and it's only when he's facing his own goal that he looks like a genuinely awful ball player, because of his cruise ship turning speed. When he's facing forward though he has shown the ability to pick a pass
Davies - historically been a pretty meh player under poch due to his lack of athleticism or end product but obviously can't evaluate him yet under jose due to the injury. Feels like a good fit for the hybrid LB/LCB role though.
Rose - had a trippier style season where he's been individually responsible for a number of goals. Says he wont leave until his contract is up but we should be looking to replace him ASAP.
Sessegnon - think he's very promising but might end up further forward. Thought he was fine today despite what some were saying, already a very intelligent player who plays with a real maturity for his age
posted on 28/12/19
Wish we still had Tripps for this season. How’s he doing at Atletico?
posted on 28/12/19
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 55 seconds ago
Wish we still had Tripps for this season. How’s he doing at Atletico?
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Fine but that's to be expected. He'd have still been poor for us if he stayed
posted on 28/12/19
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you (U7905)
posted 40 minutes ago
Jose has had long enough to at least make some progress defensively... but we're as bad as ever. He has to take some responsibility for the shambolic defending.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You mean like Pep did when he spunked £200 mill improving his defence. Also by Mourinho’s admission he has barely had time to work with his team.
There is only so much a manager can do. He needs the tools to work with and a few of our players are just not good enough.
posted on 28/12/19
Chronic I agree, need a whole new defence, and goalie in all probability. Sessignon I don`t really rate, still young, but certainly not up to it at the moment.
posted on 28/12/19
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 55 seconds ago
Wish we still had Tripps for this season. How’s he doing at Atletico?
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Fine but that's to be expected. He'd have still been poor for us if he stayed
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Doubt Tripps will be exposed as much as he would have been with us.
posted on 28/12/19
comment by Kane and Able(previously Once Bale leaves..) (U12707)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you (U7905)
posted 40 minutes ago
Jose has had long enough to at least make some progress defensively... but we're as bad as ever. He has to take some responsibility for the shambolic defending.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You mean like Pep did when he spunked £200 mill improving his defence. Also by Mourinho’s admission he has barely had time to work with his team.
There is only so much a manager can do. He needs the tools to work with and a few of our players are just not good enough.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I am sure Mourinho can see what a car crash of a defence he has been left with by the previous manager, and will improve it over two or three windows. Rome was not built in the day.
posted on 28/12/19
Forgot about KWP. He is another one for the transfer list
posted on 28/12/19
comment by Kane and Able(previously Once Bale leaves..) (U12707)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 55 seconds ago
Wish we still had Tripps for this season. How’s he doing at Atletico?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fine but that's to be expected. He'd have still been poor for us if he stayed
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Doubt Tripps will be exposed as much as he would have been with us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exaclty
posted on 29/12/19
Agree with all of this. Unfortunately your man Levy will not do what is required to fix it 👍
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