Stupid idea by your lcfc media staff to show the 9-0 goals highlights on the big screens during players warm ups! Reverse psychology did hurt you lot .... hence Southampton were fantastic
We keep doing that, showing replays of previous games against the same opposition where we’ve had a good result in the past. Stupid idea every time, not just today - it gets the opposition fans in the spirit as much as the players. I wish they’d stop.
Well Dunge, the most enjoyable thing about this game was reading your write up.
Think you’ve been too generous to invisible Barnes, pointless Perez and Chilwell the liability. I’d score the latter 1. That point would be for turning up.
I think we may need a change in formation whilst Ndidi is out. Nobody can do his job really. Switch to diamond or back 5 depending on the opposition because were too easy to get at. We also have to learn how to deal with a high press.
Frustrating.
MoM Kasper yes 8 never last goal nutmeged and the punch that never was and needed to be cleared off the line. All the hype about Hamza i would of played Mendy.
Southampton maned up we went all woke.
Chilwell - 3. Who could’ve predicted that?
comment by Nevsaysagoal2city (U5194)
posted 54 minutes ago
MoM Kasper yes 8 never last goal nutmeged and the punch that never was and needed to be cleared off the line. All the hype about Hamza i would of played Mendy.
Southampton maned up we went all woke.
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We probably needed Mendy and Hamza to be honest.
Luke Shaw linked, Chilwell replacement - be careful what you wish for guys.....
We’re not going to accept Man Utd’s t*rds, no matter how much invested parties want it.
Schmeichel may be MoM but gets 7, regressed to the previous mixture of excellent saves and being useless at crosses, lucky not to concede more because of the latter. Nothing he could have done for the first goal which he had covered before the unfortunate deflection.
Chilwell - a generous 2 for turning up and doing reasonably well in the last quarter. Not good enough, but at least a positive is showing he has this in the locker will hopefully lessen the clamour for him to move to a 'big' club as nobody is going to be interested in paying top dollar for performances like that.
Choudhury - failed miserably with his audition as N'didi replacement, he's given Brendan something to mull over, does he persist with trying him in that role or bring in Mendy in some capacity?
N'didi - almost gets a 9 and MoM whilst off the pitch recovering from his operation. Walks straight back into the side on this showing.
Perez gets a 5, the bonus point being quick thinking and a very skilful free kick to give us our goal. Noticeable that the moaners near me didn't even realise that was him.
Barnes - felt a bit sorry for him with Chillers having an absolute stinker.
If the equaliser had stood it would have been daylight robbery, Southampton thoroughly deserved their win, the margin of which could have been greater. Unrecognisable from the 'team' that surrendered at St Mary's, they will be absolutely fine if they continue playing like that.
Luke Shaw is class and still has huge potential. The problem is there looks to be significant attitude issues.
Can he put them behind him? Well he’s not done so yet under 3 different managers and we don’t want anyone disrupting the dressing room we have.
I like to think now that we’re in the age of anyone with “significant t attitude issues” not having a proper career anymore.
Except maybe at West Ham.
Re: Choudhury, certainly at this stage of his career - I always see him coming in and supporting as additional defensive midfielder in games where it’s relevant.
Re: Perez - for it me, it was more quick thinking than particularly skilful, and I now fear he is getting a reputation for diving with refs.
I wonder if a 4231 would be best in the absence of Ndidi
comment by Keep_the_faith1 (U8129)
posted 33 minutes ago
Re: Choudhury, certainly at this stage of his career - I always see him coming in and supporting as additional defensive midfielder in games where it’s relevant.
Re: Perez - for it me, it was more quick thinking than particularly skilful, and I now fear he is getting a reputation for diving with refs.
I wonder if a 4231 would be best in the absence of Ndidi
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It was very skilful, he got up and immediately played a nicely weighted ball over the top to Vardy.
I did think about mentioning going back to Puelball but resisted making the specific suggestion, although it's clearly an option in bringing 'in Mendy in some capacity'.
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
Luke Shaw is class and still has huge potential. The problem is there looks to be significant attitude issues.
Can he put them behind him? Well he’s not done so yet under 3 different managers and we don’t want anyone disrupting the dressing room we have.
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Luke Shaw is awful ffs. He looks like an overweight builder and tracks back like he’s mowing the lawn
We’d be swapping one set of problems for another - he is absolutely not the answer
Problem with 4-2-3-1 is that I’ve never seen us play it and not utterly isolating Vardy and making him pointless in the side. May as well play it with Perez as a false 9 it’s that bad.
Diamond and back 3 are options though. Just not the diamond against teams that attack with width!
3 at the back is the obvious formation for Rodgers to turn to without Ndidi except for the fact that he doesn’t have 3 fit centre backs
I think it depends whether Rodgers thinks he can get more out of Choudhury than he got yesterday. If he does then sticking with 4-1-4-1 is best. If not, 4-2-3-1 with some sort of personnel.
Alternatively he may elect to give Choudhury another chance in that 3-man midfield setup but with three centre backs behind him, a sort of 3-5-2. And yes, we’d likely see Fuchs filling in again in that scenario.
Oh and by the way Luke Shaw is on £120k a week!
I think the 4231 puts more emphasis on the 3 behind Vardy to provide creativity and support in the area and that is where the problem lies for me. We don’t really have one of the creative players in form at the moment.
The pro would be that if the full backs are effective and the defensive two can manage the midfield, those 3 can be completely interchangeable and roam which is difficult to mark and creates space for Vardy.
I think it’s very difficult to asses at the moment because our issues are more down to form and fatigue than ‘being found out’ or formations not working.
Hopefully, a week of rest and morale boasting from Rodgers will help. As mentioned though, Southampton were very good 👏
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 47 minutes ago
I think it depends whether Rodgers thinks he can get more out of Choudhury than he got yesterday. If he does then sticking with 4-1-4-1 is best. If not, 4-2-3-1 with some sort of personnel.
Alternatively he may elect to give Choudhury another chance in that 3-man midfield setup but with three centre backs behind him, a sort of 3-5-2. And yes, we’d likely see Fuchs filling in again in that scenario.
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It may be worth giving Hamza another go at 4-1-4-1.
As much as I like 3 at the back, absolutely not with the 3 CBs we have available ie playing Fuchs out of position. He is a superb (albeit ageing) LB, dodgy at CB.
Here's another thought, playing Praet instead of Tielemans may well make it more difficult for Madders, the opposition knowing that Tielemans is always looking to hurt them with forward balls and defending accordingly may give Madders more freedom. It will be interesting to see who Brendan starts at Burnley.
The problem with 3 or 5 at the back is that you then have to rely on your full backs to create the width you need in attack. In other words you accept that you won’t get any decent service from the left as Chilwell is playing there.
I’d almost rather gamble by playing Albrighton or Gray at wing back. They can’t defend, but then neither can Chilwell, but at least you might occasionally get some service from the left.
It says something when you’d rather play a right winger at left back rather than your first choice left back.
What about Justin? He seems to have decent end product?
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 24 minutes ago
It says something when you’d rather play a right winger at left back rather than your first choice left back.
What about Justin? He seems to have decent end product?
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Yes, Justin is worth a shout.
Anyone but Chilwell 50-60 mil to Man U and we will even pay you more than that to take him!
Ktf1 - I think the main problem with 4-2-3-1 last season was getting the ball to the 3. If we were to play that now, whoever played as part of the 2 would have to be able to both hold position and play good forward passes. My temptation in that situation would be to play Choudhury and Tielemans, accepting that Tielemans would play some misplaced passes to the likes of Maddison and Gray in a fluidish 3.
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posted on 12/1/20
Stupid idea by your lcfc media staff to show the 9-0 goals highlights on the big screens during players warm ups! Reverse psychology did hurt you lot .... hence Southampton were fantastic
posted on 12/1/20
We keep doing that, showing replays of previous games against the same opposition where we’ve had a good result in the past. Stupid idea every time, not just today - it gets the opposition fans in the spirit as much as the players. I wish they’d stop.
posted on 12/1/20
Well Dunge, the most enjoyable thing about this game was reading your write up.
Think you’ve been too generous to invisible Barnes, pointless Perez and Chilwell the liability. I’d score the latter 1. That point would be for turning up.
I think we may need a change in formation whilst Ndidi is out. Nobody can do his job really. Switch to diamond or back 5 depending on the opposition because were too easy to get at. We also have to learn how to deal with a high press.
Frustrating.
posted on 12/1/20
MoM Kasper yes 8 never last goal nutmeged and the punch that never was and needed to be cleared off the line. All the hype about Hamza i would of played Mendy.
Southampton maned up we went all woke.
posted on 12/1/20
Chilwell - 3. Who could’ve predicted that?
posted on 12/1/20
comment by Nevsaysagoal2city (U5194)
posted 54 minutes ago
MoM Kasper yes 8 never last goal nutmeged and the punch that never was and needed to be cleared off the line. All the hype about Hamza i would of played Mendy.
Southampton maned up we went all woke.
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We probably needed Mendy and Hamza to be honest.
posted on 12/1/20
Luke Shaw linked, Chilwell replacement - be careful what you wish for guys.....
posted on 12/1/20
We’re not going to accept Man Utd’s t*rds, no matter how much invested parties want it.
posted on 12/1/20
Schmeichel may be MoM but gets 7, regressed to the previous mixture of excellent saves and being useless at crosses, lucky not to concede more because of the latter. Nothing he could have done for the first goal which he had covered before the unfortunate deflection.
Chilwell - a generous 2 for turning up and doing reasonably well in the last quarter. Not good enough, but at least a positive is showing he has this in the locker will hopefully lessen the clamour for him to move to a 'big' club as nobody is going to be interested in paying top dollar for performances like that.
Choudhury - failed miserably with his audition as N'didi replacement, he's given Brendan something to mull over, does he persist with trying him in that role or bring in Mendy in some capacity?
N'didi - almost gets a 9 and MoM whilst off the pitch recovering from his operation. Walks straight back into the side on this showing.
Perez gets a 5, the bonus point being quick thinking and a very skilful free kick to give us our goal. Noticeable that the moaners near me didn't even realise that was him.
Barnes - felt a bit sorry for him with Chillers having an absolute stinker.
If the equaliser had stood it would have been daylight robbery, Southampton thoroughly deserved their win, the margin of which could have been greater. Unrecognisable from the 'team' that surrendered at St Mary's, they will be absolutely fine if they continue playing like that.
posted on 12/1/20
Luke Shaw is class and still has huge potential. The problem is there looks to be significant attitude issues.
Can he put them behind him? Well he’s not done so yet under 3 different managers and we don’t want anyone disrupting the dressing room we have.
posted on 12/1/20
I like to think now that we’re in the age of anyone with “significant t attitude issues” not having a proper career anymore.
Except maybe at West Ham.
posted on 12/1/20
Re: Choudhury, certainly at this stage of his career - I always see him coming in and supporting as additional defensive midfielder in games where it’s relevant.
Re: Perez - for it me, it was more quick thinking than particularly skilful, and I now fear he is getting a reputation for diving with refs.
I wonder if a 4231 would be best in the absence of Ndidi
posted on 12/1/20
comment by Keep_the_faith1 (U8129)
posted 33 minutes ago
Re: Choudhury, certainly at this stage of his career - I always see him coming in and supporting as additional defensive midfielder in games where it’s relevant.
Re: Perez - for it me, it was more quick thinking than particularly skilful, and I now fear he is getting a reputation for diving with refs.
I wonder if a 4231 would be best in the absence of Ndidi
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It was very skilful, he got up and immediately played a nicely weighted ball over the top to Vardy.
I did think about mentioning going back to Puelball but resisted making the specific suggestion, although it's clearly an option in bringing 'in Mendy in some capacity'.
posted on 12/1/20
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
Luke Shaw is class and still has huge potential. The problem is there looks to be significant attitude issues.
Can he put them behind him? Well he’s not done so yet under 3 different managers and we don’t want anyone disrupting the dressing room we have.
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Luke Shaw is awful ffs. He looks like an overweight builder and tracks back like he’s mowing the lawn
We’d be swapping one set of problems for another - he is absolutely not the answer
posted on 12/1/20
Problem with 4-2-3-1 is that I’ve never seen us play it and not utterly isolating Vardy and making him pointless in the side. May as well play it with Perez as a false 9 it’s that bad.
Diamond and back 3 are options though. Just not the diamond against teams that attack with width!
posted on 12/1/20
3 at the back is the obvious formation for Rodgers to turn to without Ndidi except for the fact that he doesn’t have 3 fit centre backs
posted on 12/1/20
I think it depends whether Rodgers thinks he can get more out of Choudhury than he got yesterday. If he does then sticking with 4-1-4-1 is best. If not, 4-2-3-1 with some sort of personnel.
Alternatively he may elect to give Choudhury another chance in that 3-man midfield setup but with three centre backs behind him, a sort of 3-5-2. And yes, we’d likely see Fuchs filling in again in that scenario.
posted on 12/1/20
Oh and by the way Luke Shaw is on £120k a week!
posted on 12/1/20
I think the 4231 puts more emphasis on the 3 behind Vardy to provide creativity and support in the area and that is where the problem lies for me. We don’t really have one of the creative players in form at the moment.
The pro would be that if the full backs are effective and the defensive two can manage the midfield, those 3 can be completely interchangeable and roam which is difficult to mark and creates space for Vardy.
I think it’s very difficult to asses at the moment because our issues are more down to form and fatigue than ‘being found out’ or formations not working.
Hopefully, a week of rest and morale boasting from Rodgers will help. As mentioned though, Southampton were very good 👏
posted on 12/1/20
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 47 minutes ago
I think it depends whether Rodgers thinks he can get more out of Choudhury than he got yesterday. If he does then sticking with 4-1-4-1 is best. If not, 4-2-3-1 with some sort of personnel.
Alternatively he may elect to give Choudhury another chance in that 3-man midfield setup but with three centre backs behind him, a sort of 3-5-2. And yes, we’d likely see Fuchs filling in again in that scenario.
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It may be worth giving Hamza another go at 4-1-4-1.
As much as I like 3 at the back, absolutely not with the 3 CBs we have available ie playing Fuchs out of position. He is a superb (albeit ageing) LB, dodgy at CB.
Here's another thought, playing Praet instead of Tielemans may well make it more difficult for Madders, the opposition knowing that Tielemans is always looking to hurt them with forward balls and defending accordingly may give Madders more freedom. It will be interesting to see who Brendan starts at Burnley.
posted on 12/1/20
The problem with 3 or 5 at the back is that you then have to rely on your full backs to create the width you need in attack. In other words you accept that you won’t get any decent service from the left as Chilwell is playing there.
I’d almost rather gamble by playing Albrighton or Gray at wing back. They can’t defend, but then neither can Chilwell, but at least you might occasionally get some service from the left.
posted on 12/1/20
It says something when you’d rather play a right winger at left back rather than your first choice left back.
What about Justin? He seems to have decent end product?
posted on 12/1/20
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 24 minutes ago
It says something when you’d rather play a right winger at left back rather than your first choice left back.
What about Justin? He seems to have decent end product?
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Yes, Justin is worth a shout.
posted on 12/1/20
Anyone but Chilwell 50-60 mil to Man U and we will even pay you more than that to take him!
posted on 12/1/20
Ktf1 - I think the main problem with 4-2-3-1 last season was getting the ball to the 3. If we were to play that now, whoever played as part of the 2 would have to be able to both hold position and play good forward passes. My temptation in that situation would be to play Choudhury and Tielemans, accepting that Tielemans would play some misplaced passes to the likes of Maddison and Gray in a fluidish 3.
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