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comment by Jobyfox (U4183)

posted on 23/1/20

How can your MOTM choice be controversial? Doesn’t somebody have to disagree with it first?

posted on 23/1/20

Just that I thought they probably would.

posted on 23/1/20

I will then, at least 3 others before him, Barnes, Ricardo and Perez were outstanding.

Apart from a couple if passes I hardly noticed Tilly, well apart from not knowing how to tackle, Soyuncu even had the most memorable pass of the evening.

Better than he has been but given the space of the park by West Ham who didn’t learn from other teams to press us and put us off our game.

They looked doomed unless their injuries come back very soon.

posted on 23/1/20

I understand your choice for MOTM Dunge, and I think it is between Tielemans, Barnes and Pereira. For me, Pereira just edges it - he was insane. I’m
Pretty confident he we leave in the summer as proper big clubs should be in for him. I head Barca we’re linked.

Otherwise I generally agree. West Ham really targeted Kasper’s 6 yard box from corners and it hurt us, but he managed to get through. It was a good tactic and one we might come up against more.

West Ham gave us an easy ride, but our forward running, midfield pressing and control (but for the 30 minutes of West Ham pressure) was absolutely on the moneys Barnes’ direct running was very important in that.

One final apology to Joby. I said there was no way we’d play 4-2-3-1 with those players, but Tielemans indeed played deeper to support Mendy. I still don’t think that suits him at all, but he was definitely able to pull the strings more with West Ham just unable to deal with our press and runners. It did force Vardy in to wide positions though so still not an option in plan A B or C for me.

Now for my controversy. Did Perez really do much other than his goals? Personally I thought he was an average (good average) performer in a game where many others played well. Felt like he benefited from others performances rather than influenced the game with his own. Happy to be disagreed with and will watch the highlights back to check. I’d give him a 3/10 😉

posted on 23/1/20

Although I would say he was a bit stronger in the tackle and didn’t seem to crumble to the floor every time someone wafted past him. That was an improvement.

posted on 23/1/20

I thought Perez was pretty average as well but as long as he scores, I'm not fussed.

Tielemans looking better, but a long way off MOTM performance for me.

Schmeichel 7
Ricardo Pereira 9
Evans 8
Söyüncü 8
Chilwell 6
Mendy 7
Pérez 7
Tielemans 7
Maddison 8
Barnes 9
Vardy 7

Ndidi 6
Nacho 8

posted on 23/1/20

Very harsh on Chilly Dunge. I thought he played well and really unsettled West Ham with his driving forward. At least a 7 out of 10.


Also though Tielemans and Perez were excellent as was Barnes

posted on 23/1/20

They only looked good because West ham were awful
Barnes was probably the stand out player followed by any of the following,
Evens, Söyüncü, Ricardo
Nacho had an excellent game
(Internet TV view)

posted on 23/1/20

It was Tielemans forward passing that cut through West Ham time and time again. Thats what made the difference, thats why I agree on the MOTM for Tielemans. He provided the platform for everything that was good about the performance.

posted on 23/1/20

The fact that some of you did not see what Tilli was doing is not his faut very effective we look uo for it my first game back for a while and looked like the team i left behind.

Thought WH gave us to much respect in the first half second half they got stuck into us and it rattled us.
Great win please for the players that are underated yp the foxes

comment by Jobyfox (U4183)

posted on 23/1/20

Ok, now we can say the motm choice is controversial.

BTW Mersey, there’s no need to apologise to me. I’m only stating the team that’s being leaked on Twitter and the personnel and formation isn’t my own proposal or opinion.

I missed the game for a family event so have no overall opinion. I did manage to catch a bit of the first half on the telly and my overriding thought was that the passing and movement (at pace) was much better. I didn’t see any of the 2nd half, but it does look like we need a plan for teams that press and hassle us out of our rhythm. It’s in situations like this that our defence suddenly looks exposed and vulnerable and we subsequently fail to move the ball quickly enough into and through midfield.

posted on 23/1/20

I thought Perez played well. The thing he did last night which he didn’t get credit for was his press and tackling. He won us a lot of balls high up the pitch especially in the first half. But when they got the penalty he did great back tracking when they broke forwards and snuffed out a couple of attacks, ones you’d expect a fit Wilf to normally deal with. Also some of his one touch play last night under pressure was great, far better than he’s been doing, and allowing Pereira to get in behind. Personally don’t think Pereira would have been as effective without his quick passing (waiting to be shot down in flames here)

posted on 23/1/20

I agree with that, Cupcake. (Feel like I'm patronising you by calling you that.)
Perez's touch has looked better of late, whereas the ball bounced off him a bit in the first half of the season. He needs to keep moving the ball quickly as he did yesterday though; it's when he lingers too long that he gets swamped and dispossessed. Perhaps he feels more comfortable with what his teammates are likely to do now, and vice-versa.

posted on 23/1/20

Also thought Perez was greatly improved. Some great touches and lay offs, plus 2 goals and still classed as an average performance by some. Hopefully he continues to improves and become stronger on the ball.
A much needed win and nice to see the positive intent and pressing back in our game.
Bring out the reserves for a run out in the FA cup at the weekend and hopefully Vardy's ass isnt badly hurt !!!

posted on 23/1/20

Two goes from a second striker we should be singing his praises just for that its been a couple of years since we have had partner for Vardy that can score.
You did not mark captain flappy down for the week punch for the Peno? then gets booked for being a big girls blouse about it. PS it was shoulder to shoulder no pen but not a clear and obvious error so stood


posted on 23/1/20

Yes Nev and Kasper even shouted for the ball. Alas stupid challenge as the guy is running away from the goal. Wait until you get out the box!

posted on 23/1/20

Agree with your assessment Dunge, I thought leaving the ground that Tielemans was MoM.

Kasper did come off his line for a cross and caught the ball! That being remarkable highlights how poor he normally is at doing that.

Chillers - 5 is reasonable, no more than 6 for sure. Plenty of effort, not much end product, and was badly caught out by a ball over his head in the first half which we were fortunate to escape without more severe punishment.

Perez had a good game.

Mendy - shame he got injured, seems like he has an unfortunate propensity for that, hopefully he's not too badly hurt.


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