Fury was brilliant, absolutely annihilated Wilder. He would destroy Joshua.
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comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fury was brilliant, absolutely annihilated Wilder. He would destroy Joshua.
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He was outstanding. I thought he would get the win but deffo didn’t expect that
What makes you think he'd get the belts back? Chances are he'd only be schooled again.
I didn’t say he would get the belt back but if he’s got the chance to then he’d probably would take it
Oh yeah...sorry misread. I had a late night.
Always felt too many criminally under rated Furys boxing ability. If they still do after this they need to find another sport, guy can do it all and pretty much has done. Does he have any weaknesses? outside the ring sure with his mental health etc but it in no chance, when hes in shape and on form just wow. Absolute animal tonight on the front foot looked a beast, only been on this for a few months? it looked impressive already.
Fury would destroy Joshua.
I don't even want to see that fight. Joshua would get murdered. I'd much prefer to see a rematch with Wilder. I think it would be an outstanding fight. In both fights Wilder has got his tactics woefully wrong. He kept standing off Fury, he needs to use his speed to his advantage and not stand off Fury.
The next fight will be a classic in my opinion with Wilder's camp reexamining what went wrong and what he needs to do to put it right.
First knockdown done for wilder, legs were pretty much gone from thereon in
Last Joshua fight was painful to watch, he was terrified of taking one from Ruiz
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 10 seconds ago
Fury would destroy Joshua.
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i think Joshuas biggest issue is, Fury could beat him numerous ways, as he's just done to Wilder, outboxed him at 50 % got back up from a cherry picker from arguably the hardest hitter in boxing right now and destroyed him tonight with a new training/fighting tactics etc so probably again nowhere near his full potential. If he wants to win it defensively he can do that too, as Klitschko found out.
comment by Geoff Tipps (U1449)
posted 22 seconds ago
Last Joshua fight was painful to watch, he was terrified of taking one from Ruiz
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it wasnt a great watch but it was smart, and the tactics were spot on. Always felt AJ had to learn and he got a wake up call but came back learnt his lesson. Still question marks over him, dont think theres a tactic out there though that would give him an edge over Fury, as i said i imagine Fury would beat AJ at any of them AJs best hope would be similar to Wilders, hope to knock him out, Wilder failed with a peach of a shot so doesn't look good for AJs chances but its boxing anything can happen on the night.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 10 seconds ago
Fury would destroy Joshua.
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i think Joshuas biggest issue is, Fury could beat him numerous ways, as he's just done to Wilder, outboxed him at 50 % got back up from a cherry picker from arguably the hardest hitter in boxing right now and destroyed him tonight with a new training/fighting tactics etc so probably again nowhere near his full potential. If he wants to win it defensively he can do that too, as Klitschko found out.
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I think sometimes it's easier for big guys to fight than a big guy to take on a smaller guy. I don't think Andy Ruiz was suited to AJ, styles make fights as they say.
I think AJ would have a better chance than Wilder, at least he can box. Plus I'd say he is stronger than he is as well. Again, another fight that couldn't be called until it happens. I think that fight would be better than Wilder III.
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comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 10 seconds ago
Fury would destroy Joshua.
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i think Joshuas biggest issue is, Fury could beat him numerous ways, as he's just done to Wilder, outboxed him at 50 % got back up from a cherry picker from arguably the hardest hitter in boxing right now and destroyed him tonight with a new training/fighting tactics etc so probably again nowhere near his full potential. If he wants to win it defensively he can do that too, as Klitschko found out.
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I think sometimes it's easier for big guys to fight than a big guy to take on a smaller guy. I don't think Andy Ruiz was suited to AJ, styles make fights as they say.
I think AJ would have a better chance than Wilder, at least he can box. Plus I'd say he is stronger than he is as well. Again, another fight that couldn't be called until it happens. I think that fight would be better than Wilder III.
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Aye, i respect them all though, all warriors all get in the ring, big respect to Wilder he wanted to go out fighting hated the towel was thrown in, just hope theres none of this dodging bollox from AJ hiding behind the excuse of im champion i want 80 % of the money etc etc unreasonable demands. Make the money in the rematch, lets just get the fight down first for the good of the sport.
Of all the ways we thought that fight could go, nobody would have predicted that.
Incredible performance from Fury, ran right through one of the hardest hitters ever.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 15 minutes ago
I don't even want to see that fight. Joshua would get murdered. I'd much prefer to see a rematch with Wilder. I think it would be an outstanding fight. In both fights Wilder has got his tactics woefully wrong. He kept standing off Fury, he needs to use his speed to his advantage and not stand off Fury.
The next fight will be a classic in my opinion with Wilder's camp reexamining what went wrong and what he needs to do to put it right.
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Wilder needs a new team behind him if he wants to beat Fury. Their tactics in both fights were awful and his advice in the corner did nothing to help him. It's as if they just tell him to go out and wait for his one chance to land that right hand.
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posted 21 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 15 minutes ago
I don't even want to see that fight. Joshua would get murdered. I'd much prefer to see a rematch with Wilder. I think it would be an outstanding fight. In both fights Wilder has got his tactics woefully wrong. He kept standing off Fury, he needs to use his speed to his advantage and not stand off Fury.
The next fight will be a classic in my opinion with Wilder's camp reexamining what went wrong and what he needs to do to put it right.
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Wilder needs a new team behind him if he wants to beat Fury. Their tactics in both fights were awful and his advice in the corner did nothing to help him. It's as if they just tell him to go out and wait for his one chance to land that right hand.
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Don't think it matters what advice Wilder gets, he's too limited a fighter who only has one trick up his sleeve.
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posted 34 seconds ago
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posted 21 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 15 minutes ago
I don't even want to see that fight. Joshua would get murdered. I'd much prefer to see a rematch with Wilder. I think it would be an outstanding fight. In both fights Wilder has got his tactics woefully wrong. He kept standing off Fury, he needs to use his speed to his advantage and not stand off Fury.
The next fight will be a classic in my opinion with Wilder's camp reexamining what went wrong and what he needs to do to put it right.
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Wilder needs a new team behind him if he wants to beat Fury. Their tactics in both fights were awful and his advice in the corner did nothing to help him. It's as if they just tell him to go out and wait for his one chance to land that right hand.
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Don't think it matters what advice Wilder gets, he's too limited a fighter who only has one trick up his sleeve.
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I agree that he'd probably never beat Fury unless he got lucky, especially on that showing. But even in fights like Ortiz he's just giving up rounds waiting for one shot. A better coach could at least have him set it up better or throw a few basic combos to open guys up.
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posted 14 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 10 seconds ago
Fury would destroy Joshua.
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i think Joshuas biggest issue is, Fury could beat him numerous ways, as he's just done to Wilder, outboxed him at 50 % got back up from a cherry picker from arguably the hardest hitter in boxing right now and destroyed him tonight with a new training/fighting tactics etc so probably again nowhere near his full potential. If he wants to win it defensively he can do that too, as Klitschko found out.
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I think sometimes it's easier for big guys to fight than a big guy to take on a smaller guy. I don't think Andy Ruiz was suited to AJ, styles make fights as they say.
I think AJ would have a better chance than Wilder, at least he can box. Plus I'd say he is stronger than he is as well. Again, another fight that couldn't be called until it happens. I think that fight would be better than Wilder III.
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Aye, i respect them all though, all warriors all get in the ring, big respect to Wilder he wanted to go out fighting hated the towel was thrown in, just hope theres none of this dodging bollox from AJ hiding behind the excuse of im champion i want 80 % of the money etc etc unreasonable demands. Make the money in the rematch, lets just get the fight down first for the good of the sport.
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I don't think they can do that anymore, it'll be 50/50. Can't make those demands anymore. That's if he wants unification anyway.
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Nir Bitton - Cursed by my username (U13244)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 15 minutes ago
I don't even want to see that fight. Joshua would get murdered. I'd much prefer to see a rematch with Wilder. I think it would be an outstanding fight. In both fights Wilder has got his tactics woefully wrong. He kept standing off Fury, he needs to use his speed to his advantage and not stand off Fury.
The next fight will be a classic in my opinion with Wilder's camp reexamining what went wrong and what he needs to do to put it right.
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Wilder needs a new team behind him if he wants to beat Fury. Their tactics in both fights were awful and his advice in the corner did nothing to help him. It's as if they just tell him to go out and wait for his one chance to land that right hand.
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Don't think it matters what advice Wilder gets, he's too limited a fighter who only has one trick up his sleeve.
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I agree that he'd probably never beat Fury unless he got lucky, especially on that showing. But even in fights like Ortiz he's just giving up rounds waiting for one shot. A better coach could at least have him set it up better or throw a few basic combos to open guys up.
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He may as well stick to what he's been doing, as it seems to have worked well for everyone else he's faced including Ortiz. He'll just have to accept that he's never going to be as good as Fury and can only hope to get lucky like you say. Despite all that and Fury's domination, you can still tell by those bruises that Fury took some power to the head.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 39 minutes ago
I don't even want to see that fight. Joshua would get murdered. I'd much prefer to see a rematch with Wilder. I think it would be an outstanding fight. In both fights Wilder has got his tactics woefully wrong. He kept standing off Fury, he needs to use his speed to his advantage and not stand off Fury.
The next fight will be a classic in my opinion with Wilder's camp reexamining what went wrong and what he needs to do to put it right.
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Wilder just doesn't have the boxing IQ to change.
He's not a great technician, he just has fantastic power. He's fought a lot of tin cans and bowled them over. Fury took him to school. Wilder will always have a punchers chance against anyone, but he hasn't got the ability to change that much.
Joshua is a far better technical fighter than Wilder, plus he has punching power.
Fury would be favourite. He really surprised me coming in that heavy and dominating as he did. I thought the extra weight would slow him down,but it was muscle and he looked fitter and stronger. Joshua gasses, but it would be interesting in the early rounds.
That was the moment for me that Fury became an all time great, to come back from the lows he’s suffered is nothing short of superhuman. And the ability was never in doubt.
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comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Nir Bitton - Cursed by my username (U13244)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 15 minutes ago
I don't even want to see that fight. Joshua would get murdered. I'd much prefer to see a rematch with Wilder. I think it would be an outstanding fight. In both fights Wilder has got his tactics woefully wrong. He kept standing off Fury, he needs to use his speed to his advantage and not stand off Fury.
The next fight will be a classic in my opinion with Wilder's camp reexamining what went wrong and what he needs to do to put it right.
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Wilder needs a new team behind him if he wants to beat Fury. Their tactics in both fights were awful and his advice in the corner did nothing to help him. It's as if they just tell him to go out and wait for his one chance to land that right hand.
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Don't think it matters what advice Wilder gets, he's too limited a fighter who only has one trick up his sleeve.
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I agree that he'd probably never beat Fury unless he got lucky, especially on that showing. But even in fights like Ortiz he's just giving up rounds waiting for one shot. A better coach could at least have him set it up better or throw a few basic combos to open guys up.
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He may as well stick to what he's been doing, as it seems to have worked well for everyone else he's faced including Ortiz. He'll just have to accept that he's never going to be as good as Fury and can only hope to get lucky like you say. Despite all that and Fury's domination, you can still tell by those bruises that Fury took some power to the head.
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Probably too late in Wilder's career for him to change significantly, I just think with all his physical attributes and power he's got more in his locker than just waiting for one shot. He's obviously never going to be a great technician but with better coaching/discipline he could add a bit more variety that would make him more dangerous against guys that can nullify the right hand for long spells in a fight.
AJ is a better technical boxer than Wilder, but is still levels below Fury. I think Fury probably beats AJ with a similar gameplan as this fight with Wilder because they are both poor inside fighters. Fury's great on the inside and outside, that ability and knowledge to adapt is levels above what AJ can do physically to bridge the gap in skill level, imo.
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posted on 23/2/20
Fury was brilliant, absolutely annihilated Wilder. He would destroy Joshua.
posted on 23/2/20
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posted on 23/2/20
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fury was brilliant, absolutely annihilated Wilder. He would destroy Joshua.
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He was outstanding. I thought he would get the win but deffo didn’t expect that
posted on 23/2/20
What makes you think he'd get the belts back? Chances are he'd only be schooled again.
posted on 23/2/20
I didn’t say he would get the belt back but if he’s got the chance to then he’d probably would take it
posted on 23/2/20
Oh yeah...sorry misread. I had a late night.
posted on 23/2/20
Always felt too many criminally under rated Furys boxing ability. If they still do after this they need to find another sport, guy can do it all and pretty much has done. Does he have any weaknesses? outside the ring sure with his mental health etc but it in no chance, when hes in shape and on form just wow. Absolute animal tonight on the front foot looked a beast, only been on this for a few months? it looked impressive already.
posted on 23/2/20
Fury would destroy Joshua.
posted on 23/2/20
I don't even want to see that fight. Joshua would get murdered. I'd much prefer to see a rematch with Wilder. I think it would be an outstanding fight. In both fights Wilder has got his tactics woefully wrong. He kept standing off Fury, he needs to use his speed to his advantage and not stand off Fury.
The next fight will be a classic in my opinion with Wilder's camp reexamining what went wrong and what he needs to do to put it right.
posted on 23/2/20
First knockdown done for wilder, legs were pretty much gone from thereon in
posted on 23/2/20
Last Joshua fight was painful to watch, he was terrified of taking one from Ruiz
posted on 23/2/20
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 10 seconds ago
Fury would destroy Joshua.
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i think Joshuas biggest issue is, Fury could beat him numerous ways, as he's just done to Wilder, outboxed him at 50 % got back up from a cherry picker from arguably the hardest hitter in boxing right now and destroyed him tonight with a new training/fighting tactics etc so probably again nowhere near his full potential. If he wants to win it defensively he can do that too, as Klitschko found out.
posted on 23/2/20
comment by Geoff Tipps (U1449)
posted 22 seconds ago
Last Joshua fight was painful to watch, he was terrified of taking one from Ruiz
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it wasnt a great watch but it was smart, and the tactics were spot on. Always felt AJ had to learn and he got a wake up call but came back learnt his lesson. Still question marks over him, dont think theres a tactic out there though that would give him an edge over Fury, as i said i imagine Fury would beat AJ at any of them AJs best hope would be similar to Wilders, hope to knock him out, Wilder failed with a peach of a shot so doesn't look good for AJs chances but its boxing anything can happen on the night.
posted on 23/2/20
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 10 seconds ago
Fury would destroy Joshua.
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i think Joshuas biggest issue is, Fury could beat him numerous ways, as he's just done to Wilder, outboxed him at 50 % got back up from a cherry picker from arguably the hardest hitter in boxing right now and destroyed him tonight with a new training/fighting tactics etc so probably again nowhere near his full potential. If he wants to win it defensively he can do that too, as Klitschko found out.
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I think sometimes it's easier for big guys to fight than a big guy to take on a smaller guy. I don't think Andy Ruiz was suited to AJ, styles make fights as they say.
I think AJ would have a better chance than Wilder, at least he can box. Plus I'd say he is stronger than he is as well. Again, another fight that couldn't be called until it happens. I think that fight would be better than Wilder III.
posted on 23/2/20
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD CHAMPIONS (U10893)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 10 seconds ago
Fury would destroy Joshua.
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i think Joshuas biggest issue is, Fury could beat him numerous ways, as he's just done to Wilder, outboxed him at 50 % got back up from a cherry picker from arguably the hardest hitter in boxing right now and destroyed him tonight with a new training/fighting tactics etc so probably again nowhere near his full potential. If he wants to win it defensively he can do that too, as Klitschko found out.
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I think sometimes it's easier for big guys to fight than a big guy to take on a smaller guy. I don't think Andy Ruiz was suited to AJ, styles make fights as they say.
I think AJ would have a better chance than Wilder, at least he can box. Plus I'd say he is stronger than he is as well. Again, another fight that couldn't be called until it happens. I think that fight would be better than Wilder III.
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Aye, i respect them all though, all warriors all get in the ring, big respect to Wilder he wanted to go out fighting hated the towel was thrown in, just hope theres none of this dodging bollox from AJ hiding behind the excuse of im champion i want 80 % of the money etc etc unreasonable demands. Make the money in the rematch, lets just get the fight down first for the good of the sport.
posted on 23/2/20
Of all the ways we thought that fight could go, nobody would have predicted that.
Incredible performance from Fury, ran right through one of the hardest hitters ever.
posted on 23/2/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 15 minutes ago
I don't even want to see that fight. Joshua would get murdered. I'd much prefer to see a rematch with Wilder. I think it would be an outstanding fight. In both fights Wilder has got his tactics woefully wrong. He kept standing off Fury, he needs to use his speed to his advantage and not stand off Fury.
The next fight will be a classic in my opinion with Wilder's camp reexamining what went wrong and what he needs to do to put it right.
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Wilder needs a new team behind him if he wants to beat Fury. Their tactics in both fights were awful and his advice in the corner did nothing to help him. It's as if they just tell him to go out and wait for his one chance to land that right hand.
posted on 23/2/20
comment by Nir Bitton - Cursed by my username (U13244)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 15 minutes ago
I don't even want to see that fight. Joshua would get murdered. I'd much prefer to see a rematch with Wilder. I think it would be an outstanding fight. In both fights Wilder has got his tactics woefully wrong. He kept standing off Fury, he needs to use his speed to his advantage and not stand off Fury.
The next fight will be a classic in my opinion with Wilder's camp reexamining what went wrong and what he needs to do to put it right.
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Wilder needs a new team behind him if he wants to beat Fury. Their tactics in both fights were awful and his advice in the corner did nothing to help him. It's as if they just tell him to go out and wait for his one chance to land that right hand.
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Don't think it matters what advice Wilder gets, he's too limited a fighter who only has one trick up his sleeve.
posted on 23/2/20
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Nir Bitton - Cursed by my username (U13244)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 15 minutes ago
I don't even want to see that fight. Joshua would get murdered. I'd much prefer to see a rematch with Wilder. I think it would be an outstanding fight. In both fights Wilder has got his tactics woefully wrong. He kept standing off Fury, he needs to use his speed to his advantage and not stand off Fury.
The next fight will be a classic in my opinion with Wilder's camp reexamining what went wrong and what he needs to do to put it right.
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Wilder needs a new team behind him if he wants to beat Fury. Their tactics in both fights were awful and his advice in the corner did nothing to help him. It's as if they just tell him to go out and wait for his one chance to land that right hand.
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Don't think it matters what advice Wilder gets, he's too limited a fighter who only has one trick up his sleeve.
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I agree that he'd probably never beat Fury unless he got lucky, especially on that showing. But even in fights like Ortiz he's just giving up rounds waiting for one shot. A better coach could at least have him set it up better or throw a few basic combos to open guys up.
posted on 23/2/20
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD CHAMPIONS (U10893)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 10 seconds ago
Fury would destroy Joshua.
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i think Joshuas biggest issue is, Fury could beat him numerous ways, as he's just done to Wilder, outboxed him at 50 % got back up from a cherry picker from arguably the hardest hitter in boxing right now and destroyed him tonight with a new training/fighting tactics etc so probably again nowhere near his full potential. If he wants to win it defensively he can do that too, as Klitschko found out.
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I think sometimes it's easier for big guys to fight than a big guy to take on a smaller guy. I don't think Andy Ruiz was suited to AJ, styles make fights as they say.
I think AJ would have a better chance than Wilder, at least he can box. Plus I'd say he is stronger than he is as well. Again, another fight that couldn't be called until it happens. I think that fight would be better than Wilder III.
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Aye, i respect them all though, all warriors all get in the ring, big respect to Wilder he wanted to go out fighting hated the towel was thrown in, just hope theres none of this dodging bollox from AJ hiding behind the excuse of im champion i want 80 % of the money etc etc unreasonable demands. Make the money in the rematch, lets just get the fight down first for the good of the sport.
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I don't think they can do that anymore, it'll be 50/50. Can't make those demands anymore. That's if he wants unification anyway.
posted on 23/2/20
comment by Nir Bitton - Cursed by my username (U13244)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Nir Bitton - Cursed by my username (U13244)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 15 minutes ago
I don't even want to see that fight. Joshua would get murdered. I'd much prefer to see a rematch with Wilder. I think it would be an outstanding fight. In both fights Wilder has got his tactics woefully wrong. He kept standing off Fury, he needs to use his speed to his advantage and not stand off Fury.
The next fight will be a classic in my opinion with Wilder's camp reexamining what went wrong and what he needs to do to put it right.
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Wilder needs a new team behind him if he wants to beat Fury. Their tactics in both fights were awful and his advice in the corner did nothing to help him. It's as if they just tell him to go out and wait for his one chance to land that right hand.
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Don't think it matters what advice Wilder gets, he's too limited a fighter who only has one trick up his sleeve.
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I agree that he'd probably never beat Fury unless he got lucky, especially on that showing. But even in fights like Ortiz he's just giving up rounds waiting for one shot. A better coach could at least have him set it up better or throw a few basic combos to open guys up.
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He may as well stick to what he's been doing, as it seems to have worked well for everyone else he's faced including Ortiz. He'll just have to accept that he's never going to be as good as Fury and can only hope to get lucky like you say. Despite all that and Fury's domination, you can still tell by those bruises that Fury took some power to the head.
posted on 23/2/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 39 minutes ago
I don't even want to see that fight. Joshua would get murdered. I'd much prefer to see a rematch with Wilder. I think it would be an outstanding fight. In both fights Wilder has got his tactics woefully wrong. He kept standing off Fury, he needs to use his speed to his advantage and not stand off Fury.
The next fight will be a classic in my opinion with Wilder's camp reexamining what went wrong and what he needs to do to put it right.
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Wilder just doesn't have the boxing IQ to change.
He's not a great technician, he just has fantastic power. He's fought a lot of tin cans and bowled them over. Fury took him to school. Wilder will always have a punchers chance against anyone, but he hasn't got the ability to change that much.
Joshua is a far better technical fighter than Wilder, plus he has punching power.
Fury would be favourite. He really surprised me coming in that heavy and dominating as he did. I thought the extra weight would slow him down,but it was muscle and he looked fitter and stronger. Joshua gasses, but it would be interesting in the early rounds.
posted on 23/2/20
That was the moment for me that Fury became an all time great, to come back from the lows he’s suffered is nothing short of superhuman. And the ability was never in doubt.
posted on 23/2/20
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Nir Bitton - Cursed by my username (U13244)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Nir Bitton - Cursed by my username (U13244)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 15 minutes ago
I don't even want to see that fight. Joshua would get murdered. I'd much prefer to see a rematch with Wilder. I think it would be an outstanding fight. In both fights Wilder has got his tactics woefully wrong. He kept standing off Fury, he needs to use his speed to his advantage and not stand off Fury.
The next fight will be a classic in my opinion with Wilder's camp reexamining what went wrong and what he needs to do to put it right.
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Wilder needs a new team behind him if he wants to beat Fury. Their tactics in both fights were awful and his advice in the corner did nothing to help him. It's as if they just tell him to go out and wait for his one chance to land that right hand.
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Don't think it matters what advice Wilder gets, he's too limited a fighter who only has one trick up his sleeve.
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I agree that he'd probably never beat Fury unless he got lucky, especially on that showing. But even in fights like Ortiz he's just giving up rounds waiting for one shot. A better coach could at least have him set it up better or throw a few basic combos to open guys up.
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He may as well stick to what he's been doing, as it seems to have worked well for everyone else he's faced including Ortiz. He'll just have to accept that he's never going to be as good as Fury and can only hope to get lucky like you say. Despite all that and Fury's domination, you can still tell by those bruises that Fury took some power to the head.
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Probably too late in Wilder's career for him to change significantly, I just think with all his physical attributes and power he's got more in his locker than just waiting for one shot. He's obviously never going to be a great technician but with better coaching/discipline he could add a bit more variety that would make him more dangerous against guys that can nullify the right hand for long spells in a fight.
posted on 23/2/20
AJ is a better technical boxer than Wilder, but is still levels below Fury. I think Fury probably beats AJ with a similar gameplan as this fight with Wilder because they are both poor inside fighters. Fury's great on the inside and outside, that ability and knowledge to adapt is levels above what AJ can do physically to bridge the gap in skill level, imo.
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