So your saying rvp and co qualified for the CL?
Have arsenal with aubameyangs goals?
RvP, and it's not even close. Phenomenal player.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 seconds ago
So your saying rvp and co qualified for the CL?
Have arsenal with aubameyangs goals?
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Like I said very difficult to compare an individuals performance in a team game.
Aubameyangs done his job despite his teammates lack of quality. Look at last season, Welbeck, Mikhi, Iwobi, a mentally gone Ozil supplying him.
Where the calibre of players RVP played with were far higher. Don't think anyone can disagree with that.
comment by Tu Meke - He'sGotRedHair! (U3732)
posted 2 minutes ago
RvP, and it's not even close. Phenomenal player.
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Nope. RVP loses out to both based on one stat only. The fact that there's no such thing as PRIME RVP. A total fiction of a player whom nobody has ever seen, due to him being injured all the time. By the time he was able to muster a fully fit season, he was long past his prime.
So you got Sanchez or Auba, both reliably healthy. Still no contest, Auba every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Sanchez is one dimensional and the PL eventually shut him down all day because of it. With Auba that's not the case. Though IMO the fact that only one of the 3 is a player whom has been loyal to his club historically vs the other two both being prize s, who dissed theirs (one after a career of understanding and faith from the club). Then Auba just wins by default anyway, since NOBODY SHOULD want a disloyal as their first choice.
My how football has changed. It says alot that fans have become happy to tolerate that sh!t from players. Time was when straight spitting on the badge would prevent your name from being mentioned in such discussions.
Van persie kept himself fit from the end of 2010 till 2013, 3 years where he was one of the best players in the world. Turned up on the international stage too.
'Then Auba just wins by default anyway, since NOBODY SHOULD want a disloyal as their first choice.'
QUICK, OP... see if you can tag this article to the Dortmund board!
Be great to get their fans' input into this subject...
Sanchez scored 25 in all competitions in his first season with us. That is brilliant for a 1st season. His 2nd season it was about 17 but he was injured for 6 weeks or so. Then 2016/2017 was his best season with 30 goals in all competitions. 24 being in the league. He also had plenty of assists and could do special things.
How can anyway say he only had 1 good season with us
Fabregas. The correct answer is Fabregas.
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 3 minutes ago
Fabregas. The correct answer is Fabregas.
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This is also true.
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 4 minutes ago
'Then Auba just wins by default anyway, since NOBODY SHOULD want a disloyalas their first choice.'
QUICK, OP... see if you can tag this article to the Dortmund board!
Be great to get their fans' input into this subject...
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If there was some complete public insulting of the club as he left that I missed then pray tell. I'm sure Dortmund fans weren't happy to lose him. They did have him a long time though and as long as he never properly dissed the club in how he left. It's a very different kettle of fish to Sanchez and eons away from RVP's doing that on top of showing zero gratitude for AFC and Wenger standing by him through all those injury rocked years.
Far as I'm aware, Auba played years and played well.Then he decided he wanted to leave for a new challenge and did. I don't see any player whom leaves his club as disloyal. Just the ones whom, without given cause by the club or it's fans first, disrespect the club by talking sh!t and taking shots at it for no reason. Like RVPs "Arsenal can't win stuff, so I'm leaving," after it was HIS constant personal fitness woes, which had been a stone around and he clubs title contention neck, for 6 out of his 7 seasons. Can't be firing that kinda shot when YOU YASELF were a huge part of the handicap which stopped the winning, near ALL the time. THAT'S some disloyalty for you.
Can't imagine many people would go for Auba but RVP vs Sanchez is tricky.
Tempted to say RVP but Sanchez was unplayable on his day.
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 4 minutes ago
'Then Auba just wins by default anyway, since NOBODY SHOULD want a disloyalas their first choice.'
QUICK, OP... see if you can tag this article to the Dortmund board!
Be great to get their fans' input into this subject...
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If there was some complete public insulting of the club as he left that I missed then pray tell. I'm sure Dortmund fans weren't happy to lose him. They did have him a long time though and as long as he never properly dissed the club in how he left. It's a very different kettle of fish to Sanchez and eons away from RVP's doing that on top of showing zero gratitude for AFC and Wenger standing by him through all those injury rocked years.
Far as I'm aware, Auba played years and played well.Then he decided he wanted to leave for a new challenge and did. I don't see any player whom leaves his club as disloyal. Just the ones whom, without given cause by the club or it's fans first, disrespect the club by talking sh!t and taking shots at it for no reason. Like RVPs "Arsenal can't win stuff, so I'm leaving," after it was HIS constant personal fitness woes, which had been a stone around and he clubs title contention neck, for 6 out of his 7 seasons. Can't be firing that kinda shot when YOU YASELF were a huge part of the handicap which stopped the winning, near ALL the time. THAT'S some disloyalty for you.
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https://www.espn.co.uk/football/borussia-dortmund/story/3373296/dortmund-players-warned-dont-go-on-strike-like-aubamyeng-dembele
But yeah, players are only disrespectful if and when they choose to leave Arsenal.
'They did have him a long time though...'
3 seasons less than Arsenal had Van Persie.
Like I said Lex, it's not the choosing to leave, that makes you disloyal. I don't consider Auba disloyal for choosing to leave Dortmund, he IS entitled to since he served up plenty of goals for it in his time. Nor do I consider it disloyal if the player states he wants me to leave, after his good service. Is made to stay another whole season then told again, he can't leave. That's BS from Dortmund, he already stayed a season longer than he wanted, so I see them as being in the wrong for trying to force the issue a SECOND season. I'da gone on strike too, if some club I didn't wanna stay at pulled that, after I'd already held on one year.
But tell me how you see a player forcing a club to stop being unreasonable withdrawing his services (as he does have the right to, he ain't a slave they own) as being anything like Sanchez's public outbursts where he denegrated damn near everyone whilst here and slating as he left. Or RVPs Slating the man who stood by him when many others would have cast him aside. And the club who you could argue at the time, only couldn't win something BECAUSE HE was always injured. They're leagues apart in terms of deed. RVP worst of all.
Surely a wind up this question???
RVP is far and away the best of those three
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 5 hours, 6 minutes ago
Like I said Lex, it's not the choosing to leave, that makes you disloyal. I don't consider Auba disloyal for choosing to leave Dortmund, he IS entitled to since he served up plenty of goals for it in his time. Nor do I consider it disloyal if the player states he wants me to leave, after his good service. Is made to stay another whole season then told again, he can't leave. That's BS from Dortmund, he already stayed a season longer than he wanted, so I see them as being in the wrong for trying to force the issue a SECOND season. I'da gone on strike too, if some club I didn't wanna stay at pulled that, after I'd already held on one year.
But tell me how you see a player forcing a club to stop being unreasonable withdrawing his services (as he does have the right to, he ain't a slave they own) as being anything like Sanchez's public outbursts where he denegrated damn near everyone whilst here and slating as he left. Or RVPs Slating the man who stood by him when many others would have cast him aside. And the club who you could argue at the time, only couldn't win something BECAUSE HE was always injured. They're leagues apart in terms of deed. RVP worst of all.
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Utter guff that's only 'a thing' for those yet to realise most professional footballers think about the sport as an industry, rather than a game.
Anelka or Giroud?
Overmans or Walcott?
Petit or Song?
Cole or Clichy?
(I could go on...)
All of the former antagonised/forced a move.
All the latter had to be dragged kicking and screaming away from London Colney.
Give me the former for Arsenal every single day of the week.
I'm delighted to say how much Aubameyang has impressed me since he joined us - even more so since being given the armband. And I'll be sad when he leaves for this summer.
After forcing a move to Barca.
Prime RVP was class, but i feel like you only had him for one season in that prime, and he was at his best for the season he joined united.
Prime Sanchez was a freak. An absolute joy to watch as a neutral, and the kind of player who would have you on the edge of your seat every time he got the ball.
For that I’d go with Sanchez. Aubameyang is really really good though
Lex
Even in industry/business, it is widely bad practice to publicly bad mouth your former employer. So that excuse doesn't wash with me. Walcott and Giroud, ASKED to be let go due to age and Euros coming and the fact they weren't getting to play. Wenger done the decent thing and let them go to get their game time for a try at one possible last international hoorah. NOTHING wrong there on either side mate. They served us well and that's the LEAST we could do if they weren't going to be 1st choice here. That's just common decency.
Auba isn't forcing anything since we've no right to demand anything of him. As long as he is prompt with his decision, come seasons end. To enable a deal to be done in the window so we get a fee, that's fine. If he doesn't want to keep playing with Ozil, after he craps away his Arsenal CL hopes again, who can blame him. And it's not like we stood by him for 6 injury prone seasons before this one and he's talking sh!t us being rubbish now is it? And HE'S given us TWO seasons near INJURY FREE before even coming to a decision to leave.
You seeing the difference yet mate? Between "dues paid in full" or well mannered/behaved. And 6 years dues owed, whilst mouthing off or just generally disgustingly behaved, with abusive tantrums?? I have no problem at all with one kind of player, Auba, Walcott, Giroud. But a big problem with the other, Cole, RVP, Sanchez. Leaving is part of the game to be accepted, so neither club nor player should be acting the ass about it happening. As you say, this IS meant to be a professional business after all. They best ACT like it then.
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 1 day, 2 hours ago
Surely a wind up this question???
RVP is far and away the best of those three
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People always refused to allow Walcott to be hailed one of the best wingers the league has ever had, based on his healthy playing stats, being projected over a fully fit season. Doing so puts him up there but NOPE, everyone said because he's always injured, he can't be, the stats mean nothing because they're always half a season's worth.
It's either players have to able to physically play the games or they don't. So unless you're placing Walcott (seen him bang away 20 in half a season) up there with Sanchez, you can't be putting RVP up there with Henry. Gotta be the same rule for both players if you're talking about "Prime" (since RVPs prime was injured half as season same as Theo). So Walcott's as good as Sanchez yeah?
Okay, so who served us better:
Fabregas (who agitated for his 'dream move' back to Barca) or Ozil (who loves playing for Arsenal, flatly refused to leave, and fought his way back into the team, despite the previous manager telling him he was no longer needed at the club.
'Gotta be the same rule for both players' apparently.
No fecker WANTED Ozil outside China. Don't act like he refused to be put on the market to fight for his place. We can't get rid because of his ridiculous wages and him playing like a pile of sh!t the last 4 years. "Loves playing for Arsenal," what because he said so in some interview for the Arsenal suckers who forgot what a he is already?
No Lex, he loves playing for his Arsenal SALARY and don't want that cash cow sh!t to end. He damn sure ain't getting a wage that big anywhere other than AFC now, after fecking us on the deal for 5 years for all to see. Not even in a bosman deal next year. So his only hopes to stay on big wages, are China where he doesn't want to go. Or "Con, Arteta this time and sucker Arsenal fans, long enough to get offered an extension." Otherwise he's a year away from less than 100k for his last years at "Wherever will risk a punt on him FC" AS IF you think that love of Arsenal is sincere after what he's given on the pitch. FIRST thing to come across from how he's plays is just how little he gives a sh!t about playing for us. Because you DON'T play that sh!t for that long when you love the club/shirt you're supposedly out there playing FOR. The mind truly boggles at the fact you've bought into that, with 5 years proof to tell you otherwise. You're just desperate to keep him I think. GOTTA be, to believe that lie
As for Cesc. We got him as a kid and knew he'd always go to Barca, comes with the territory for Barca youngsters. He gave his all for the time he was here, up until he asked us to respect that fact and WE acted the feckin ass refusing to sell him, so can't cry about it when he does the same in return. You picked a poor example there my man. I was one of the people at the time, saying to sell him the season before he acted the ass (IN KIND) to get his move. I think you and I just have very different ideas of good conduct. You think bad conduct/manners and stiffing people whom served you decently are perfectly alright for club or player to do. I don't.
And Fabregas, to answer your question. Because he tried his little heart out, fighting with the others, getting the crap kicked out of him by men twice his size and entertained me/us INFINITELY MORE than Ozil ever has.
I can't believe you even think that's a valid question. One got his ass kicked for years for us, whilst the other has run from the fight his whole fecking tenure. It's a straight no contest. You're a trip Lex
'Don't act like he refused to be put on the market to fight for his place. We can't get rid because of his ridiculous wages and him playing like a pile of sh!t the last 4 years.'
One name for you, my friend... Winston Bogarde.
If Ozil didn't want to fight for his place, he could always go take up fishing on the weekends...
So Fabregas agitated for a move. Ozil never has.
And there I rest my case.
RvP, every single day of the week.
Well, apart from Sundays, perhaps
We fired the first shot re Cesc. When you take the first shot, you can't/shouldn't then be holding it against the other side for firing one straight back.
Ozil hasn't stayed out of loyalty Lex. He doesn't have stock high enough, after his AFC career to be demanding anything but forgiveness, for his 4-5 years of playing worse than badly." We can't sell him outside China, which means he's stuck here. Nothing to do with good character on his part.
If he was the character you're claiming him to be, we couldn't/wouldn't be having this discussion. Because I'd have no 'lousy Ozil performance for years' to base my statements on.
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posted on 24/2/20
So your saying rvp and co qualified for the CL?
Have arsenal with aubameyangs goals?
posted on 24/2/20
RvP, and it's not even close. Phenomenal player.
posted on 24/2/20
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 seconds ago
So your saying rvp and co qualified for the CL?
Have arsenal with aubameyangs goals?
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Like I said very difficult to compare an individuals performance in a team game.
Aubameyangs done his job despite his teammates lack of quality. Look at last season, Welbeck, Mikhi, Iwobi, a mentally gone Ozil supplying him.
Where the calibre of players RVP played with were far higher. Don't think anyone can disagree with that.
posted on 24/2/20
comment by Tu Meke - He'sGotRedHair! (U3732)
posted 2 minutes ago
RvP, and it's not even close. Phenomenal player.
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Nope. RVP loses out to both based on one stat only. The fact that there's no such thing as PRIME RVP. A total fiction of a player whom nobody has ever seen, due to him being injured all the time. By the time he was able to muster a fully fit season, he was long past his prime.
So you got Sanchez or Auba, both reliably healthy. Still no contest, Auba every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Sanchez is one dimensional and the PL eventually shut him down all day because of it. With Auba that's not the case. Though IMO the fact that only one of the 3 is a player whom has been loyal to his club historically vs the other two both being prize s, who dissed theirs (one after a career of understanding and faith from the club). Then Auba just wins by default anyway, since NOBODY SHOULD want a disloyal as their first choice.
My how football has changed. It says alot that fans have become happy to tolerate that sh!t from players. Time was when straight spitting on the badge would prevent your name from being mentioned in such discussions.
posted on 24/2/20
Van persie kept himself fit from the end of 2010 till 2013, 3 years where he was one of the best players in the world. Turned up on the international stage too.
posted on 24/2/20
'Then Auba just wins by default anyway, since NOBODY SHOULD want a disloyal as their first choice.'
QUICK, OP... see if you can tag this article to the Dortmund board!
Be great to get their fans' input into this subject...
posted on 24/2/20
Sanchez scored 25 in all competitions in his first season with us. That is brilliant for a 1st season. His 2nd season it was about 17 but he was injured for 6 weeks or so. Then 2016/2017 was his best season with 30 goals in all competitions. 24 being in the league. He also had plenty of assists and could do special things.
How can anyway say he only had 1 good season with us
posted on 24/2/20
Fabregas. The correct answer is Fabregas.
posted on 24/2/20
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 3 minutes ago
Fabregas. The correct answer is Fabregas.
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This is also true.
posted on 24/2/20
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 4 minutes ago
'Then Auba just wins by default anyway, since NOBODY SHOULD want a disloyalas their first choice.'
QUICK, OP... see if you can tag this article to the Dortmund board!
Be great to get their fans' input into this subject...
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If there was some complete public insulting of the club as he left that I missed then pray tell. I'm sure Dortmund fans weren't happy to lose him. They did have him a long time though and as long as he never properly dissed the club in how he left. It's a very different kettle of fish to Sanchez and eons away from RVP's doing that on top of showing zero gratitude for AFC and Wenger standing by him through all those injury rocked years.
Far as I'm aware, Auba played years and played well.Then he decided he wanted to leave for a new challenge and did. I don't see any player whom leaves his club as disloyal. Just the ones whom, without given cause by the club or it's fans first, disrespect the club by talking sh!t and taking shots at it for no reason. Like RVPs "Arsenal can't win stuff, so I'm leaving," after it was HIS constant personal fitness woes, which had been a stone around and he clubs title contention neck, for 6 out of his 7 seasons. Can't be firing that kinda shot when YOU YASELF were a huge part of the handicap which stopped the winning, near ALL the time. THAT'S some disloyalty for you.
posted on 24/2/20
Can't imagine many people would go for Auba but RVP vs Sanchez is tricky.
Tempted to say RVP but Sanchez was unplayable on his day.
posted on 24/2/20
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 4 minutes ago
'Then Auba just wins by default anyway, since NOBODY SHOULD want a disloyalas their first choice.'
QUICK, OP... see if you can tag this article to the Dortmund board!
Be great to get their fans' input into this subject...
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If there was some complete public insulting of the club as he left that I missed then pray tell. I'm sure Dortmund fans weren't happy to lose him. They did have him a long time though and as long as he never properly dissed the club in how he left. It's a very different kettle of fish to Sanchez and eons away from RVP's doing that on top of showing zero gratitude for AFC and Wenger standing by him through all those injury rocked years.
Far as I'm aware, Auba played years and played well.Then he decided he wanted to leave for a new challenge and did. I don't see any player whom leaves his club as disloyal. Just the ones whom, without given cause by the club or it's fans first, disrespect the club by talking sh!t and taking shots at it for no reason. Like RVPs "Arsenal can't win stuff, so I'm leaving," after it was HIS constant personal fitness woes, which had been a stone around and he clubs title contention neck, for 6 out of his 7 seasons. Can't be firing that kinda shot when YOU YASELF were a huge part of the handicap which stopped the winning, near ALL the time. THAT'S some disloyalty for you.
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https://www.espn.co.uk/football/borussia-dortmund/story/3373296/dortmund-players-warned-dont-go-on-strike-like-aubamyeng-dembele
But yeah, players are only disrespectful if and when they choose to leave Arsenal.
posted on 24/2/20
'They did have him a long time though...'
3 seasons less than Arsenal had Van Persie.
posted on 24/2/20
Like I said Lex, it's not the choosing to leave, that makes you disloyal. I don't consider Auba disloyal for choosing to leave Dortmund, he IS entitled to since he served up plenty of goals for it in his time. Nor do I consider it disloyal if the player states he wants me to leave, after his good service. Is made to stay another whole season then told again, he can't leave. That's BS from Dortmund, he already stayed a season longer than he wanted, so I see them as being in the wrong for trying to force the issue a SECOND season. I'da gone on strike too, if some club I didn't wanna stay at pulled that, after I'd already held on one year.
But tell me how you see a player forcing a club to stop being unreasonable withdrawing his services (as he does have the right to, he ain't a slave they own) as being anything like Sanchez's public outbursts where he denegrated damn near everyone whilst here and slating as he left. Or RVPs Slating the man who stood by him when many others would have cast him aside. And the club who you could argue at the time, only couldn't win something BECAUSE HE was always injured. They're leagues apart in terms of deed. RVP worst of all.
posted on 24/2/20
Surely a wind up this question???
RVP is far and away the best of those three
posted on 24/2/20
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 5 hours, 6 minutes ago
Like I said Lex, it's not the choosing to leave, that makes you disloyal. I don't consider Auba disloyal for choosing to leave Dortmund, he IS entitled to since he served up plenty of goals for it in his time. Nor do I consider it disloyal if the player states he wants me to leave, after his good service. Is made to stay another whole season then told again, he can't leave. That's BS from Dortmund, he already stayed a season longer than he wanted, so I see them as being in the wrong for trying to force the issue a SECOND season. I'da gone on strike too, if some club I didn't wanna stay at pulled that, after I'd already held on one year.
But tell me how you see a player forcing a club to stop being unreasonable withdrawing his services (as he does have the right to, he ain't a slave they own) as being anything like Sanchez's public outbursts where he denegrated damn near everyone whilst here and slating as he left. Or RVPs Slating the man who stood by him when many others would have cast him aside. And the club who you could argue at the time, only couldn't win something BECAUSE HE was always injured. They're leagues apart in terms of deed. RVP worst of all.
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Utter guff that's only 'a thing' for those yet to realise most professional footballers think about the sport as an industry, rather than a game.
Anelka or Giroud?
Overmans or Walcott?
Petit or Song?
Cole or Clichy?
(I could go on...)
All of the former antagonised/forced a move.
All the latter had to be dragged kicking and screaming away from London Colney.
Give me the former for Arsenal every single day of the week.
I'm delighted to say how much Aubameyang has impressed me since he joined us - even more so since being given the armband. And I'll be sad when he leaves for this summer.
After forcing a move to Barca.
posted on 25/2/20
Prime RVP was class, but i feel like you only had him for one season in that prime, and he was at his best for the season he joined united.
Prime Sanchez was a freak. An absolute joy to watch as a neutral, and the kind of player who would have you on the edge of your seat every time he got the ball.
For that I’d go with Sanchez. Aubameyang is really really good though
posted on 25/2/20
Lex
Even in industry/business, it is widely bad practice to publicly bad mouth your former employer. So that excuse doesn't wash with me. Walcott and Giroud, ASKED to be let go due to age and Euros coming and the fact they weren't getting to play. Wenger done the decent thing and let them go to get their game time for a try at one possible last international hoorah. NOTHING wrong there on either side mate. They served us well and that's the LEAST we could do if they weren't going to be 1st choice here. That's just common decency.
Auba isn't forcing anything since we've no right to demand anything of him. As long as he is prompt with his decision, come seasons end. To enable a deal to be done in the window so we get a fee, that's fine. If he doesn't want to keep playing with Ozil, after he craps away his Arsenal CL hopes again, who can blame him. And it's not like we stood by him for 6 injury prone seasons before this one and he's talking sh!t us being rubbish now is it? And HE'S given us TWO seasons near INJURY FREE before even coming to a decision to leave.
You seeing the difference yet mate? Between "dues paid in full" or well mannered/behaved. And 6 years dues owed, whilst mouthing off or just generally disgustingly behaved, with abusive tantrums?? I have no problem at all with one kind of player, Auba, Walcott, Giroud. But a big problem with the other, Cole, RVP, Sanchez. Leaving is part of the game to be accepted, so neither club nor player should be acting the ass about it happening. As you say, this IS meant to be a professional business after all. They best ACT like it then.
posted on 25/2/20
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 1 day, 2 hours ago
Surely a wind up this question???
RVP is far and away the best of those three
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People always refused to allow Walcott to be hailed one of the best wingers the league has ever had, based on his healthy playing stats, being projected over a fully fit season. Doing so puts him up there but NOPE, everyone said because he's always injured, he can't be, the stats mean nothing because they're always half a season's worth.
It's either players have to able to physically play the games or they don't. So unless you're placing Walcott (seen him bang away 20 in half a season) up there with Sanchez, you can't be putting RVP up there with Henry. Gotta be the same rule for both players if you're talking about "Prime" (since RVPs prime was injured half as season same as Theo). So Walcott's as good as Sanchez yeah?
posted on 25/2/20
Okay, so who served us better:
Fabregas (who agitated for his 'dream move' back to Barca) or Ozil (who loves playing for Arsenal, flatly refused to leave, and fought his way back into the team, despite the previous manager telling him he was no longer needed at the club.
'Gotta be the same rule for both players' apparently.
posted on 25/2/20
No fecker WANTED Ozil outside China. Don't act like he refused to be put on the market to fight for his place. We can't get rid because of his ridiculous wages and him playing like a pile of sh!t the last 4 years. "Loves playing for Arsenal," what because he said so in some interview for the Arsenal suckers who forgot what a he is already?
No Lex, he loves playing for his Arsenal SALARY and don't want that cash cow sh!t to end. He damn sure ain't getting a wage that big anywhere other than AFC now, after fecking us on the deal for 5 years for all to see. Not even in a bosman deal next year. So his only hopes to stay on big wages, are China where he doesn't want to go. Or "Con, Arteta this time and sucker Arsenal fans, long enough to get offered an extension." Otherwise he's a year away from less than 100k for his last years at "Wherever will risk a punt on him FC" AS IF you think that love of Arsenal is sincere after what he's given on the pitch. FIRST thing to come across from how he's plays is just how little he gives a sh!t about playing for us. Because you DON'T play that sh!t for that long when you love the club/shirt you're supposedly out there playing FOR. The mind truly boggles at the fact you've bought into that, with 5 years proof to tell you otherwise. You're just desperate to keep him I think. GOTTA be, to believe that lie
As for Cesc. We got him as a kid and knew he'd always go to Barca, comes with the territory for Barca youngsters. He gave his all for the time he was here, up until he asked us to respect that fact and WE acted the feckin ass refusing to sell him, so can't cry about it when he does the same in return. You picked a poor example there my man. I was one of the people at the time, saying to sell him the season before he acted the ass (IN KIND) to get his move. I think you and I just have very different ideas of good conduct. You think bad conduct/manners and stiffing people whom served you decently are perfectly alright for club or player to do. I don't.
posted on 25/2/20
And Fabregas, to answer your question. Because he tried his little heart out, fighting with the others, getting the crap kicked out of him by men twice his size and entertained me/us INFINITELY MORE than Ozil ever has.
I can't believe you even think that's a valid question. One got his ass kicked for years for us, whilst the other has run from the fight his whole fecking tenure. It's a straight no contest. You're a trip Lex
posted on 25/2/20
'Don't act like he refused to be put on the market to fight for his place. We can't get rid because of his ridiculous wages and him playing like a pile of sh!t the last 4 years.'
One name for you, my friend... Winston Bogarde.
If Ozil didn't want to fight for his place, he could always go take up fishing on the weekends...
posted on 25/2/20
So Fabregas agitated for a move. Ozil never has.
And there I rest my case.
RvP, every single day of the week.
Well, apart from Sundays, perhaps
posted on 26/2/20
We fired the first shot re Cesc. When you take the first shot, you can't/shouldn't then be holding it against the other side for firing one straight back.
Ozil hasn't stayed out of loyalty Lex. He doesn't have stock high enough, after his AFC career to be demanding anything but forgiveness, for his 4-5 years of playing worse than badly." We can't sell him outside China, which means he's stuck here. Nothing to do with good character on his part.
If he was the character you're claiming him to be, we couldn't/wouldn't be having this discussion. Because I'd have no 'lousy Ozil performance for years' to base my statements on.
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