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Should players cover clubs staff wages?

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posted on 1/4/20

comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 4 seconds ago
I take it under fifa fair play rules those clubs that have rich owners will not allow those owners to pump money in to pay wages when the money dries up with no income coming in.
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I'm sure they'll find a way round that
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Fifa and Uefa's coffers will be running short soon I should imagine,with no bumper income from this years Euro's coming in for a start.

I wonder what ingenious methods they will use to get money flowing
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As painful as this is right now and whilst it will cost many clubs many millions of pounds, it's still a multi billion pound industry so over the course of a couple of years it will be like this never really happened such are the vast amounts in the game..

posted on 1/4/20

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 5 minutes ago
At times like these, anyone with several million in the bank you should have it redistributed
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Why?
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Because it's not fair so it isn't.

Let's enact something which is illegal, raid people's bank accounts of anything over £1m and give it away.

Or spend it on something and keep the remainder

or something
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I have a few quid in the bank built up over years of investing my bonus when I worked for another company for 20 years into their scheme for buying shares. (Not in your league squire Ginger)
It is not millions but its a few quid rainy day money or to go towards my retirement if necessary along with my AVC fund.
Why should I give that up having foregone all those bonuses over the years to build up that little nest egg for myself?
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Give it up.

I don't care.

It's for everyone else.

Thanks in advance
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You are getting nothing
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Next time in Dublin give me a shout and I will bring you for a proper pint of Guinness

posted on 1/4/20

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 5 minutes ago
At times like these, anyone with several million in the bank you should have it redistributed
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Why?
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Because it's not fair so it isn't.

Let's enact something which is illegal, raid people's bank accounts of anything over £1m and give it away.

Or spend it on something and keep the remainder

or something
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I have a few quid in the bank built up over years of investing my bonus when I worked for another company for 20 years into their scheme for buying shares. (Not in your league squire Ginger)
It is not millions but its a few quid rainy day money or to go towards my retirement if necessary along with my AVC fund.
Why should I give that up having foregone all those bonuses over the years to build up that little nest egg for myself?
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Give it up.

I don't care.

It's for everyone else.

Thanks in advance
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You are getting nothing
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Next time in Dublin give me a shout and I will bring you for a proper pint of Guinness
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Haven't been in Dublin for well over a year mate so yes, I'm well up for the cup on that one.

posted on 1/4/20

Absolutely they should. US sports have done so as well

comment by Scarf (U21116)

posted on 1/4/20

comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 4 seconds ago
I take it under fifa fair play rules those clubs that have rich owners will not allow those owners to pump money in to pay wages when the money dries up with no income coming in.
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I'm sure they'll find a way round that
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Fifa and Uefa's coffers will be running short soon I should imagine,with no bumper income from this years Euro's coming in for a start.

I wonder what ingenious methods they will use to get money flowing
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FIFA & UEFA are sat on many $Billions in cash

posted on 1/4/20

There are a number of outgoings for any club:

first and foremost is player contracts. Now every month that passes by the players contract runs down and if not paid they won't be paid. So players need to volunteer to not get paid.

Second is non playing staff. Some on millions, some on minimum wage.

third operating expenses. There are bills to be paid to creditors, be they transfer fees still outstanding, burger boxes sat in the stalls, food orders not fulfilled, leased equipment, rented spaces like shops etc/

Fourth tax, depreciation, interest on loans etc.


so We can't think players deferring wages will save clubs on its own.

posted on 1/4/20

comment by Scarf (U21116)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Not all Footballers are flushed with cash, even in the Premier League.

My sister works with a very well paid Premier League player, he is buying houses (on very short mortgages due to length of contracts) for members of his family, and he is skint without bonuses.

One of his colleagues, who has played in the Prem and the Champions League this season is on £1,500 a week currently.

But yes, those who can afford to cover the wages of staff should help them out.

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I actually don’t doubt this. I think we look at footballers’ wages and view it as a lot compared to what a normal person outlays on normal things. Footballers are in a unique and fortunate situation earning loads of money at a young age with little financial education or life experience. They see their seniors and colleagues with the big houses and cars, of course they’re going to join that lifestyle.

Spending obscene wages on houses, cars, travel, holidays, meals, gambling, clothes, jewellery, security, family, children and their education, and friends (after tax)..I would not at all be surprised to see a lot of PL footballers, especially younger ones on the 10-50k/week, to struggle after a few weeks/months of no income.

Basically/to summarise, I think a lot of footballers get used to the massive outlays with their money and will do little saving or anything ‘smart’ with their money, and in a perverse way are equally vulnerable to having their wages suddenly lost.

posted on 1/4/20

comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Scarf (U21116)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Not all Footballers are flushed with cash, even in the Premier League.

My sister works with a very well paid Premier League player, he is buying houses (on very short mortgages due to length of contracts) for members of his family, and he is skint without bonuses.

One of his colleagues, who has played in the Prem and the Champions League this season is on £1,500 a week currently.

But yes, those who can afford to cover the wages of staff should help them out.

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I actually don’t doubt this. I think we look at footballers’ wages and view it as a lot compared to what a normal person outlays on normal things. Footballers are in a unique and fortunate situation earning loads of money at a young age with little financial education or life experience. They see their seniors and colleagues with the big houses and cars, of course they’re going to join that lifestyle.

Spending obscene wages on houses, cars, travel, holidays, meals, gambling, clothes, jewellery, security, family, children and their education, and friends (after tax)..I would not at all be surprised to see a lot of PL footballers, especially younger ones on the 10-50k/week, to struggle after a few weeks/months of no income.

Basically/to summarise, I think a lot of footballers get used to the massive outlays with their money and will do little saving or anything ‘smart’ with their money, and in a perverse way are equally vulnerable to having their wages suddenly lost.
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I think you can say that about a majority of society, living week to week and spending in accordance to what they earn not what they need to spend.

Folks love credit cards, the less smart REALLY love credit cards, i literally had a moron the other week chatting to me when i was out saying 'spend a dollar get a dollar'.

posted on 1/4/20

comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019--... (U11551)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Scarf (U21116)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Not all Footballers are flushed with cash, even in the Premier League.

My sister works with a very well paid Premier League player, he is buying houses (on very short mortgages due to length of contracts) for members of his family, and he is skint without bonuses.

One of his colleagues, who has played in the Prem and the Champions League this season is on £1,500 a week currently.

But yes, those who can afford to cover the wages of staff should help them out.

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I actually don’t doubt this. I think we look at footballers’ wages and view it as a lot compared to what a normal person outlays on normal things. Footballers are in a unique and fortunate situation earning loads of money at a young age with little financial education or life experience. They see their seniors and colleagues with the big houses and cars, of course they’re going to join that lifestyle.

Spending obscene wages on houses, cars, travel, holidays, meals, gambling, clothes, jewellery, security, family, children and their education, and friends (after tax)..I would not at all be surprised to see a lot of PL footballers, especially younger ones on the 10-50k/week, to struggle after a few weeks/months of no income.

Basically/to summarise, I think a lot of footballers get used to the massive outlays with their money and will do little saving or anything ‘smart’ with their money, and in a perverse way are equally vulnerable to having their wages suddenly lost.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I think you can say that about a majority of society, living week to week and spending in accordance to what they earn not what they need to spend.

Folks love credit cards, the less smart REALLY love credit cards, i literally had a moron the other week chatting to me when i was out saying 'spend a dollar get a dollar'.
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Credit cards are one of the best things ever invented if used properly.

Free use of cash for over a month (average 45 days)

posted on 1/4/20

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019--... (U11551)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Scarf (U21116)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Not all Footballers are flushed with cash, even in the Premier League.

My sister works with a very well paid Premier League player, he is buying houses (on very short mortgages due to length of contracts) for members of his family, and he is skint without bonuses.

One of his colleagues, who has played in the Prem and the Champions League this season is on £1,500 a week currently.

But yes, those who can afford to cover the wages of staff should help them out.

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I actually don’t doubt this. I think we look at footballers’ wages and view it as a lot compared to what a normal person outlays on normal things. Footballers are in a unique and fortunate situation earning loads of money at a young age with little financial education or life experience. They see their seniors and colleagues with the big houses and cars, of course they’re going to join that lifestyle.

Spending obscene wages on houses, cars, travel, holidays, meals, gambling, clothes, jewellery, security, family, children and their education, and friends (after tax)..I would not at all be surprised to see a lot of PL footballers, especially younger ones on the 10-50k/week, to struggle after a few weeks/months of no income.

Basically/to summarise, I think a lot of footballers get used to the massive outlays with their money and will do little saving or anything ‘smart’ with their money, and in a perverse way are equally vulnerable to having their wages suddenly lost.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I think you can say that about a majority of society, living week to week and spending in accordance to what they earn not what they need to spend.

Folks love credit cards, the less smart REALLY love credit cards, i literally had a moron the other week chatting to me when i was out saying 'spend a dollar get a dollar'.
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Credit cards are one of the best things ever invented if used properly.

Free use of cash for over a month (average 45 days)
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Never used one buy yeah i could see that if someone has some common sense they could utilise them well

posted on 1/4/20

posted on 1/4/20

They’re easy targets, aren’t they, our top class players. Everybody knows that they are paid astronomical salaries, none of them worth it, surely these greedy b’s should give a couple of bob to the poorer is society. Especially now, what with this Coronavirus thing.

Well, not necessarily. Charity, as the saying goes begins at the home. There’s no legal, contractual even moral obligation on them to give. Why are they being singled out, when there are multi-billionaires, world-wide, never get a mention? (‘Except when some crave publicity, especially from the entertainment or so-called entertainment world telling us all how much a struggle it is to be obscenely wealthy)

Spurs’ Levy is today’s target. That’s fair enough, but is he the only one? What about the City - not ManC - you know, the banking institutions who we all paid to bail out in 2008 and now trying the screw businesses royal?

No one should be embarrassed, publicly or otherwise to donate. It an individual choice

posted on 1/4/20

All i would say is that players who have bought all these expensive items and perhaps maybe struggling for cash just need to sell a few of their spare cars. Not many people have such options to fall back on. So they don't get much sympathy from me.

posted on 1/4/20

Why would a player give up a huge slice of his income if he’s only contracted until end of May for example?

posted on 1/4/20

Of course they should, goes without saying.

posted on 1/4/20

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 minutes ago
Of course they should, goes without saying.
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Yep.

Looks like they’re all queuing up. Why should they? Why shouldn’t everyone?

posted on 1/4/20

Over the next few years it should be those that benefit and have benefitted most from the current economic model who finance it from going under (if we're going to persist with it)

In reality the almost inevitable economic downturn will be felt most and paid for by those at bottom and the generations to come much like our climate destruction

posted on 1/4/20

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 minutes ago
Of course they should, goes without saying.
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Yep.

Looks like they’re all queuing up. Why should they? Why shouldn’t everyone?
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If you can't see why someone on £150000 per week should give up a few quid to help someone on £15000 per year I'm surprised. Someone from the same club who he meets every day.
It's called conscience.

posted on 1/4/20

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 minutes ago
Of course they should, goes without saying.
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Yep.

Looks like they’re all queuing up. Why should they? Why shouldn’t everyone?
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If you can't see why someone on £150000 per week should give up a few quid to help someone on £15000 per year I'm surprised. Someone from the same club who he meets every day.
It's called conscience.
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Call it whatever you like. Whether anyone should give up part of their earnings is entirely up to them.

But it’s their choice. They shouldn’t HAVE to do anything simply because people with less say they should.

posted on 1/4/20

Yes it's entirely up to them. But if they have a conscience they will. I, and I'm sure most people, think it's fair and will think less of those who don't.

posted on 1/4/20

Personally as a LFC supporter I will be flabbergasted if the Liverpool players and club do not offer assistance to the people who help run the club; stewards, cooks, secretarial positions etc etc.

Liverpool and Klopp are all about 1 club and I expect them to club together and follow our great anthem of not walking alone. I say this because I have great belief in our club. Players like Mane, Salah, Milner and Hendo imo will probably lead the call to help...I honestly fully expect it.

Hopefully we will embarrass the likes of spurs who imo are a fkn disgrace!!

posted on 1/4/20

For once GB I completely agree. I expect the same from United players, except the ones like Rashford who have already done well.

posted on 1/4/20

I think both utd and liverpool will cover the cost...they are working class club and it's something if shanks and busby were alive would probably do together as a joint venture.

posted on 1/4/20

Agreed as above.

I also think pretty much any EPL club and the biggest two up here will be already doing a hell of a lot on a day to day basis. It just doesn’t get shouted about from the rooftops and therefore not picked up by the press. I also think already high earning players will just be quietly doing their bit.

posted on 1/4/20

Yeah..your probably right ginger.

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