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posted on 16/4/20

comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 6 minutes ago
Is that just the 6 statements they have made ?

Fck up about your resolution , it was a pile of self interest shiete !!
You have no interest in other clubs or the amount of time they were given , you only care about Celtic being crowned champions and your money

So fck up
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I thought the first grievance was that Scottish clubs weren't getting any money.

So why are they now greeting?

Clubs are getting the money they needed, so surely they've won their case?
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Most clubs will get their money-just not the ones in the premiership. But they can apply for a loan, which everyone now knows about if they didn’t beforehand.
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Are you suggesting that what they originally wanted isn't actually what they wanted?

That they have an ulterior motive?

Nah.. not buying that
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Pfft! As if!!

posted on 16/4/20

Anyway-this guy has good advice for all clubs going forward.

https://mobile.twitter.com/robertflorence/status/1250697967851515905

posted on 16/4/20

comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......Schizophrenia was my idea!.....No it wasn't!.....You are never alone with a Schizo :D (U2115)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 32 minutes ago
Something has to force their hand here. They can’t keep coming out with these anecdotal allegations as I’m pretty sure even some of their fans are beginning to doubt there’s anything of any real substance, or the SPFL have to hit them with a charge.
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Not sure that you can classify Dundee having four extra days of horse trading to decide the fate of all other clubs can be described as anecdotal.
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All the clubs had 28 days though?!

In any case, it’s their allegations about the conduct of the executive, and demand for suspensions and an independent investigation. Into what?

If the allegation is that they’re a bit 5hite at their job, then fair enough-but they don’t need suspended and an independent investigation for that. If it’s more serious, then say what the allegations are and back it up.

I’m fairly sure though that if they had anything, it would already have been put out.
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Isn't the suggestion more that they used a carrot of their only being one way to be paid, whilst rangers suggest it wasn't entirely true the main part of the current complaint?

posted on 16/4/20

comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......Schizophrenia was my idea!.....No it wasn't!.....You are never alone with a Schizo :D (U2115)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 32 minutes ago
Something has to force their hand here. They can’t keep coming out with these anecdotal allegations as I’m pretty sure even some of their fans are beginning to doubt there’s anything of any real substance, or the SPFL have to hit them with a charge.
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Not sure that you can classify Dundee having four extra days of horse trading to decide the fate of all other clubs can be described as anecdotal.
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All the clubs had 28 days though?!

In any case, it’s their allegations about the conduct of the executive, and demand for suspensions and an independent investigation. Into what?

If the allegation is that they’re a bit 5hite at their job, then fair enough-but they don’t need suspended and an independent investigation for that. If it’s more serious, then say what the allegations are and back it up.

I’m fairly sure though that if they had anything, it would already have been put out.
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Isn't the suggestion more that they used a carrot of their only being one way to be paid, whilst rangers suggest it wasn't entirely true the main part of the current complaint?
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Something something pesky facts

posted on 16/4/20

Miller-I don’t think rangers even know exactly what the main part of their complaint is.

They wanted to alleviate the financial hardship on teams-but without the season being called and teams being unfairly disadvantaged and relegated. Teams are getting what they’re due, and it looks like there will be reconstruction that will mean teams don’t get relegated. The premiership has not been finished as yet, so that can’t be a problem.

If it’s about the vote, then the teams most affected by it have said they’re not happy, but they’ll go with it. 4 out of 5 teams in Scotland voted for the proposal.

Weirdly, despite the allegations of bullying and coercion, not one other club has suggested suspensions of anyone.

So, god knows what the main complaint is.

posted on 16/4/20

As you said POV.. even Rangers don't know what they're complaining about anymore.

Just doing it to rule the degenerates in their fanbase up.

Hence why they're claiming evidence of a conspiracy without producing any.

posted on 16/4/20

comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 25 minutes ago
Miller-I don’t think rangers even know exactly what the main part of their complaint is.

They wanted to alleviate the financial hardship on teams-but without the season being called and teams being unfairly disadvantaged and relegated. Teams are getting what they’re due, and it looks like there will be reconstruction that will mean teams don’t get relegated. The premiership has not been finished as yet, so that can’t be a problem.

If it’s about the vote, then the teams most affected by it have said they’re not happy, but they’ll go with it. 4 out of 5 teams in Scotland voted for the proposal.

Weirdly, despite the allegations of bullying and coercion, not one other club has suggested suspensions of anyone.

So, god knows what the main complaint is.
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I would’ve thought it was pretty obvious what the complaint is.

posted on 16/4/20

I think they know exactly what they're complaining about. And most of you do too. The season isn't over and the sporting integrity stick that was used in years past has been retired as no longer fitting current day requirements.

We're being ersey. But this was and had to be expected.

posted on 16/4/20

They're playing to an audience but it mustn't be ignored that there really isn't much call for sporting integrity anywhere in Scottish football

posted on 16/4/20

What is it exactly that Celtic are doing just now that doesn't correspond with the idea of sporting integrity?

posted on 16/4/20

Clubs in financial hardship have been taken care of.

Teams that were supposed to be getting relegated will more than likely not get relegated. Teams that were due to be promoted will get that chance from what we gather.

If the issue is about rangers resolution being ignored as being incompetent, then they should have taken up the offer from the SPFL to have help making it sure it was worded correctly.

These were the items that rangers have listed as being important.

posted on 16/4/20

I personally don't think celtic have done anything wrong. I'm just pointing out that previously sporting integrity was of paramount importance to Scottish football and now as we call time on lower leagues and very likely the top tier it's a secondary concern to dishing out honours.

comment by Timmy (U14278)

posted on 16/4/20

comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 3 minutes ago
I personally don't think celtic have done anything wrong. I'm just pointing out that previously sporting integrity was of paramount importance to Scottish football and now as we call time on lower leagues and very likely the top tier it's a secondary concern to dishing out honours.
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In these circumstances it actually is. We all would loved to play the games but its not possible. We were left eith no choice

posted on 16/4/20

comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 6 minutes ago
Clubs in financial hardship have been taken care of.

Teams that were supposed to be getting relegated will more than likely not get relegated. Teams that were due to be promoted will get that chance from what we gather.

If the issue is about rangers resolution being ignored as being incompetent, then they should have taken up the offer from the SPFL to have help making it sure it was worded correctly.

These were the items that rangers have listed as being important.
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Plus they seem to have wanted the SPFL to spoon feed then information that was readily available to all and should have been known.
Any board member who is not aware of the rules should be fired starting with Robertson.

posted on 16/4/20

comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 5 minutes ago
I personally don't think celtic have done anything wrong. I'm just pointing out that previously sporting integrity was of paramount importance to Scottish football and now as we call time on lower leagues and very likely the top tier it's a secondary concern to dishing out honours.
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I would say that the interest of sporting integrity are best served by deciding outcomes as much as possible by what has happened on the field of play.

As opposed to ignoring what has happened over hundreds of matches

That would include Celtic being crowned champions.

posted on 16/4/20

comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 43 minutes ago
As you said POV.. even Rangers don't know what they're complaining about anymore.

Just doing it to rule the degenerates in their fanbase up.

Hence why they're claiming evidence of a conspiracy without producing any.
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It’s only degenerates that think the SPFL have handled this well.

A mad rush to vote to end the season - for no real reason. The lack of consideration of any other proposals, the lies around it being only way, allegations, Dundee, Forfar voting to relegate Partick thistle for their own benefit etc.

Celtic were always going to win the league - but the idea that Rangers are the only club having a go at the SPFL because of our degenerate fans is pretty daft, we don’t like the SPFL and love a statement anyway and this has been an absolute circus. I’m quite happy to see Rangers calling it out exactly as it is.

posted on 16/4/20

comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 5 minutes ago
I personally don't think celtic have done anything wrong. I'm just pointing out that previously sporting integrity was of paramount importance to Scottish football and now as we call time on lower leagues and very likely the top tier it's a secondary concern to dishing out honours.
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I would say that the interest of sporting integrity are best served by deciding outcomes as much as possible by what has happened on the field of play.

As opposed to ignoring what has happened over hundreds of matches

That would include Celtic being crowned champions.
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I completely agree. And I feel decisions to call time should be kicked down the road as far as possible. Until there is no other option crowning champions that hasn't finished winning their crown should be avoided.

posted on 16/4/20

comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 5 minutes ago
I personally don't think celtic have done anything wrong. I'm just pointing out that previously sporting integrity was of paramount importance to Scottish football and now as we call time on lower leagues and very likely the top tier it's a secondary concern to dishing out honours.
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I would say that the interest of sporting integrity are best served by deciding outcomes as much as possible by what has happened on the field of play.

As opposed to ignoring what has happened over hundreds of matches

That would include Celtic being crowned champions.
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I completely agree. And I feel decisions to call time should be kicked down the road as far as possible. Until there is no other option crowning champions that hasn't finished winning their crown should be avoided.
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Celtic haven’t been announced as champions yet. It’s only the lower divisions that have been declared so far.

posted on 16/4/20

I know. I don't even think they should have been declared.

posted on 16/4/20

SPFL and the SFA have been advised by the Scottish government that there’ll be no training allowed until June 10th at the earliest. By then, there’ll be a raft of players already out of contract in the lower leagues. There’s a fair chance some of them would have went out the game by then if they didn’t get funds through. And before you say ‘loans’, I have my doubts about this ‘loan’ scheme, and how effective it would be. The issue with the wording from rangers was that they were being compelled to hand over money rather than having any discretion over it.

But I don’t know why calling the lower leagues would cause so much consternation for rangers?!

posted on 16/4/20

It's bitterness at what went before. A feeling that the rules only get applied to Rangers. As I said it's playing to an audience but it's an audience that increasingly feels that when the shoe is on the other foot it will kick rangers. The board and statements are ramping up on this growing feeling.

posted on 16/4/20

comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 53 minutes ago
I think they know exactly what they're complaining about. And most of you do too. The season isn't over and the sporting integrity stick that was used in years past has been retired as no longer fitting current day requirements.

We're being ersey. But this was and had to be expected.
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So you want the money for finishing the league.. but don't want to finish the league.

Who knew that Rangers were the quantum future of football

posted on 17/4/20

comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 13 minutes ago
It's bitterness at what went before. A feeling that the rules only get applied to Rangers. As I said it's playing to an audience but it's an audience that increasingly feels that when the shoe is on the other foot it will kick rangers. The board and statements are ramping up on this growing feeling.
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Thing is Miller, by making the statements that they have, if they’re not going to follow them up with the actions they first promised (they wouldn’t be found wanting), then no amount of sabre rattling is going to make a difference. Reading comments tonight, they’re not ramping up the feelings that they used to.

posted on 17/4/20

comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 5 minutes ago
I personally don't think celtic have done anything wrong. I'm just pointing out that previously sporting integrity was of paramount importance to Scottish football and now as we call time on lower leagues and very likely the top tier it's a secondary concern to dishing out honours.
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I would say that the interest of sporting integrity are best served by deciding outcomes as much as possible by what has happened on the field of play.

As opposed to ignoring what has happened over hundreds of matches

That would include Celtic being crowned champions.
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It all reverts to the age old saying of 'You can only p¡ss with caulk you've got'

If we can only play 30 games in 2019/20, then that's all we can play. It's not perfect by any means but it's over 75% of a regular league.

Common sense has to prevail at some point instead of petty rivalries causing more headaches for Scottish football.

There's only one club crying foul here.

It's clear why they're doing it.. they committed to a position on (or pre)Friday and have doubled down. There's definitely an element of riling up the troops in an us v them situation to deflect from the club's shortcomings of late.

It's worked for Trump, Farage etc with their fanatics.. but it has an expiration date with the wider populace/fan base. It'll turn sour and ugly soon enough.

posted on 17/4/20

comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 13 minutes ago
It's bitterness at what went before. A feeling that the rules only get applied to Rangers. As I said it's playing to an audience but it's an audience that increasingly feels that when the shoe is on the other foot it will kick rangers. The board and statements are ramping up on this growing feeling.
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Thing is Miller, by making the statements that they have, if they’re not going to follow them up with the actions they first promised (they wouldn’t be found wanting), then no amount of sabre rattling is going to make a difference. Reading comments tonight, they’re not ramping up the feelings that they used to.
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And it's a case of boy who cried wolf too.

Soon you stop listening.

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