Only other thing i'll add is, it has become to much of a "coincidence" now how many people i've seen describe having this in around november/december/january. Some people will lie to give themselves false hope, some people will have had something else, but it's genuinely verging on about 500-1,000 people i've seen say this now including doctors, pharmacists, ambulance drivers (e.g. they'd pick someone up and then end up getting sick themselves few days later). It's just clearly been here since november/december, guess that is kind of further evidenced by the fact Wuhan wasn't even rife with the " A " strain / first mutation.
2017/2018 was a really bad winter, 2018/2019 we didn't really have what i'd call a winter, this time it's been fackin cold and wintery since october and is still going even with high winds etc apart from the odd week/ week and half of warmish weather.
This might just be another one of them, to put into perspective all cause deaths in 2018 up to 15 april are still over 3,000 higher than all cause deathers up to 15 april 2020.
Not saying this isn't worse, especially by the amount of lives a lockdown has probably saved (Probably about 100 a day from car accidents etc+), but it does add some perspective and give a kind of bit better indication at an actual mortality rate than the 5%-10% it looks like.
It also p!sses me off we're all doing our bit by adhering to lockdown etc and fully accepted it and going the extra mile and all the amazing hero key workers, and then the government still lets 15k-20k people fly into fackin heathrow from all the hotspot countries with not even a temperature check
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 11 minutes ago
Just insane they still have no real idea, so many of these tests seem to be wrong or they test at wrong times or don't swab properly or enough etc or one minute it can be in your mouth but then gone for a few hours then it comes back.
Mates uncle in hospital was positive, thankfully made a recovery got discharged as tested negative then fell ill again couple days later took him back in and he was still positive ffs
They need to get a handle on it. Truth be told i think it's been here (UK) and pretty much worldwide since December and wouldn't surprise me if 70-80% of the population have had it, had some chest tightness and coldy symptoms in march so could of had it then and think my dad had it in december, endless coughing high temperature couldn't breathe properly, basically just slept for a whole week then thankfully felt better
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The scientific evidence at the moment suggests that less than 10% of the population have had it.
In my opinion there is no chance in hell we will reach Hancocks target, a figure he plucked out of thin air. I will be volunteering at the new Glasgow testing facility, which is 1 of 3 new facilities. They think they will get to 7,000 a day.
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 11 minutes ago
Just insane they still have no real idea, so many of these tests seem to be wrong or they test at wrong times or don't swab properly or enough etc or one minute it can be in your mouth but then gone for a few hours then it comes back.
Mates uncle in hospital was positive, thankfully made a recovery got discharged as tested negative then fell ill again couple days later took him back in and he was still positive ffs
They need to get a handle on it. Truth be told i think it's been here (UK) and pretty much worldwide since December and wouldn't surprise me if 70-80% of the population have had it, had some chest tightness and coldy symptoms in march so could of had it then and think my dad had it in december, endless coughing high temperature couldn't breathe properly, basically just slept for a whole week then thankfully felt better
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The scientific evidence at the moment suggests that less than 10% of the population have had it.
In my opinion there is no chance in hell we will reach Hancocks target, a figure he plucked out of thin air. I will be volunteering at the new Glasgow testing facility, which is 1 of 3 new facilities. They think they will get to 7,000 a day.
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It's interesting though as saw something the other day that California i think it was tested 350 people from a homeless shelter and 150 people tested positive and none were even showing symptoms
Boston it was actually https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8226683/One-forty-six-homeless-NO-symptoms-test-positive-COVID-19-Boston-shelter.html
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 18 minutes ago
add in they seem to list a new symptom of it every single day.They honestly have no idea
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Add more symptoms, scare more people.
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
has anyone on here had it? thought i saw someone the other day saying he had it in december but can't find it
Hope everyone is doing well, sending best wishes/health to you to ripley and everyone else
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I think I've had it but like a lot of others I don't quite know for sure. 6 of us all came off a cruise ship on March 23 and all of us went down with a variety of the symptoms. About a week later P&O sent us a communication informing us that a member of their staff had tested positive for Corona.
Felt dead tired and breathless for about 10-12 days, sleeping all day and night, had the cough but no headache (which some of us did have) developed night sweats from days 7-10. All of us happily have now recovered and feel great. Two of us are key workers and once they get tested at some point it will give us an indication whether we had it or not.
Think I may have also had it back in December. Felt awful for 4-5 days with the exact symptoms described followed by a cough I couldn’t shake for weeks and I am in decent fitness and haven’t smoked in years.
Some experts reckon this thing could have circulating the world since October.
I think the problem has been too much emphasis on who started it. As a result countries have not really explored if people did have it much earlier than the start if this year.
Think in America they had some guy saying that some flu deaths had actually been covid 19.
And I was interested in the vaping deaths in America last year, from a study perspective, and I have to say the symptoms were very covid 19 like. At the time they put it down to people self mixing vaping juices. However the symptoms were pneumonia like and even those who survived didn't recover, which is one of the things ignored with covid 19, basically that those who recover may well have messed up lungs for the rest of their lives etc.
The basic point I wanna make is that blaming can be done once we recover from this. For now if the evidence of it starting can help with a vaccine etc then let's focus on that
Isn't it Australian flu that was around towards the end of last year? I don't think it's Covid19 otherwise surely we'd have witnessed more deaths then and more widespread symptoms
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 17 minutes ago
Isn't it Australian flu that was around towards the end of last year? I don't think it's Covid19 otherwise surely we'd have witnessed more deaths then and more widespread symptoms
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Yeah, i think it is wishful thinking that many have already had it late last year because as you say, nobody was dying then.
comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯ (U1561)
posted 7 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
has anyone on here had it? thought i saw someone the other day saying he had it in december but can't find it
Hope everyone is doing well, sending best wishes/health to you to ripley and everyone else
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I think I've had it but like a lot of others I don't quite know for sure. 6 of us all came off a cruise ship on March 23 and all of us went down with a variety of the symptoms. About a week later P&O sent us a communication informing us that a member of their staff had tested positive for Corona.
Felt dead tired and breathless for about 10-12 days, sleeping all day and night, had the cough but no headache (which some of us did have) developed night sweats from days 7-10. All of us happily have now recovered and feel great. Two of us are key workers and once they get tested at some point it will give us an indication whether we had it or not.
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Good man, summer.
Stay safe and Ktbffh
comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯ (U1561)
posted 7 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
has anyone on here had it? thought i saw someone the other day saying he had it in december but can't find it
Hope everyone is doing well, sending best wishes/health to you to ripley and everyone else
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I think I've had it but like a lot of others I don't quite know for sure. 6 of us all came off a cruise ship on March 23 and all of us went down with a variety of the symptoms. About a week later P&O sent us a communication informing us that a member of their staff had tested positive for Corona.
Felt dead tired and breathless for about 10-12 days, sleeping all day and night, had the cough but no headache (which some of us did have) developed night sweats from days 7-10. All of us happily have now recovered and feel great. Two of us are key workers and once they get tested at some point it will give us an indication whether we had it or not.
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Good to hear youre ok now Summer
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 9 hours, 45 minutes ago
Only other thing i'll add is, it has become to much of a "coincidence" now how many people i've seen describe having this in around november/december/january. Some people will lie to give themselves false hope, some people will have had something else, but it's genuinely verging on about 500-1,000 people i've seen say this now including doctors, pharmacists, ambulance drivers (e.g. they'd pick someone up and then end up getting sick themselves few days later). It's just clearly been here since november/december, guess that is kind of further evidenced by the fact Wuhan wasn't even rife with the " A " strain / first mutation.
2017/2018 was a really bad winter, 2018/2019 we didn't really have what i'd call a winter, this time it's been fackin cold and wintery since october and is still going even with high winds etc apart from the odd week/ week and half of warmish weather.
This might just be another one of them, to put into perspective all cause deaths in 2018 up to 15 april are still over 3,000 higher than all cause deathers up to 15 april 2020.
Not saying this isn't worse, especially by the amount of lives a lockdown has probably saved (Probably about 100 a day from car accidents etc+), but it does add some perspective and give a kind of bit better indication at an actual mortality rate than the 5%-10% it looks like.
It also p!sses me off we're all doing our bit by adhering to lockdown etc and fully accepted it and going the extra mile and all the amazing hero key workers, and then the government still lets 15k-20k people fly into fackin heathrow from all the hotspot countries with not even a temperature check
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this is a classic ignore the lock down response.
all one needs do is look at NY and apply it across the states.
Trumps moronic comments about not needing to vaccinate some states "cos they are spread out" is just lunacy and has stoked this attitude up.
If left unchecked a disease with a 5% mortality rate that is particularly invasive and attacks the lungs would frankly kill a million in the USA alone. (330 million people)
the fact is: yeah is a "really bad flu" but people need to get real. Cos 99% of people who say that have never had FLU!
Thanks for the concern and good wishes boys. Make sure you take good care of yourselves also. 👍
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 10 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 17 minutes ago
Isn't it Australian flu that was around towards the end of last year? I don't think it's Covid19 otherwise surely we'd have witnessed more deaths then and more widespread symptoms
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Yeah, i think it is wishful thinking that many have already had it late last year because as you say, nobody was dying then.
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Obviously no illness is good but I don't think we can blame Covid-19 on every illness for the last year or so. Keep safe!
comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯ (U1561)
posted 3 hours, 14 minutes ago
Thanks for the concern and good wishes boys. Make sure you take good care of yourselves also. 👍
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A fat shaved head middle aged madman is what we need.
In my day, I was deceptively slow.🏂
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posted on 21/4/20
Only other thing i'll add is, it has become to much of a "coincidence" now how many people i've seen describe having this in around november/december/january. Some people will lie to give themselves false hope, some people will have had something else, but it's genuinely verging on about 500-1,000 people i've seen say this now including doctors, pharmacists, ambulance drivers (e.g. they'd pick someone up and then end up getting sick themselves few days later). It's just clearly been here since november/december, guess that is kind of further evidenced by the fact Wuhan wasn't even rife with the " A " strain / first mutation.
2017/2018 was a really bad winter, 2018/2019 we didn't really have what i'd call a winter, this time it's been fackin cold and wintery since october and is still going even with high winds etc apart from the odd week/ week and half of warmish weather.
This might just be another one of them, to put into perspective all cause deaths in 2018 up to 15 april are still over 3,000 higher than all cause deathers up to 15 april 2020.
Not saying this isn't worse, especially by the amount of lives a lockdown has probably saved (Probably about 100 a day from car accidents etc+), but it does add some perspective and give a kind of bit better indication at an actual mortality rate than the 5%-10% it looks like.
It also p!sses me off we're all doing our bit by adhering to lockdown etc and fully accepted it and going the extra mile and all the amazing hero key workers, and then the government still lets 15k-20k people fly into fackin heathrow from all the hotspot countries with not even a temperature check
posted on 21/4/20
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 11 minutes ago
Just insane they still have no real idea, so many of these tests seem to be wrong or they test at wrong times or don't swab properly or enough etc or one minute it can be in your mouth but then gone for a few hours then it comes back.
Mates uncle in hospital was positive, thankfully made a recovery got discharged as tested negative then fell ill again couple days later took him back in and he was still positive ffs
They need to get a handle on it. Truth be told i think it's been here (UK) and pretty much worldwide since December and wouldn't surprise me if 70-80% of the population have had it, had some chest tightness and coldy symptoms in march so could of had it then and think my dad had it in december, endless coughing high temperature couldn't breathe properly, basically just slept for a whole week then thankfully felt better
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The scientific evidence at the moment suggests that less than 10% of the population have had it.
In my opinion there is no chance in hell we will reach Hancocks target, a figure he plucked out of thin air. I will be volunteering at the new Glasgow testing facility, which is 1 of 3 new facilities. They think they will get to 7,000 a day.
posted on 21/4/20
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 11 minutes ago
Just insane they still have no real idea, so many of these tests seem to be wrong or they test at wrong times or don't swab properly or enough etc or one minute it can be in your mouth but then gone for a few hours then it comes back.
Mates uncle in hospital was positive, thankfully made a recovery got discharged as tested negative then fell ill again couple days later took him back in and he was still positive ffs
They need to get a handle on it. Truth be told i think it's been here (UK) and pretty much worldwide since December and wouldn't surprise me if 70-80% of the population have had it, had some chest tightness and coldy symptoms in march so could of had it then and think my dad had it in december, endless coughing high temperature couldn't breathe properly, basically just slept for a whole week then thankfully felt better
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The scientific evidence at the moment suggests that less than 10% of the population have had it.
In my opinion there is no chance in hell we will reach Hancocks target, a figure he plucked out of thin air. I will be volunteering at the new Glasgow testing facility, which is 1 of 3 new facilities. They think they will get to 7,000 a day.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's interesting though as saw something the other day that California i think it was tested 350 people from a homeless shelter and 150 people tested positive and none were even showing symptoms
posted on 21/4/20
Boston it was actually https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8226683/One-forty-six-homeless-NO-symptoms-test-positive-COVID-19-Boston-shelter.html
posted on 21/4/20
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 18 minutes ago
add in they seem to list a new symptom of it every single day.They honestly have no idea
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Add more symptoms, scare more people.
posted on 21/4/20
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
has anyone on here had it? thought i saw someone the other day saying he had it in december but can't find it
Hope everyone is doing well, sending best wishes/health to you to ripley and everyone else
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think I've had it but like a lot of others I don't quite know for sure. 6 of us all came off a cruise ship on March 23 and all of us went down with a variety of the symptoms. About a week later P&O sent us a communication informing us that a member of their staff had tested positive for Corona.
Felt dead tired and breathless for about 10-12 days, sleeping all day and night, had the cough but no headache (which some of us did have) developed night sweats from days 7-10. All of us happily have now recovered and feel great. Two of us are key workers and once they get tested at some point it will give us an indication whether we had it or not.
posted on 21/4/20
Think I may have also had it back in December. Felt awful for 4-5 days with the exact symptoms described followed by a cough I couldn’t shake for weeks and I am in decent fitness and haven’t smoked in years.
Some experts reckon this thing could have circulating the world since October.
posted on 21/4/20
I think the problem has been too much emphasis on who started it. As a result countries have not really explored if people did have it much earlier than the start if this year.
Think in America they had some guy saying that some flu deaths had actually been covid 19.
And I was interested in the vaping deaths in America last year, from a study perspective, and I have to say the symptoms were very covid 19 like. At the time they put it down to people self mixing vaping juices. However the symptoms were pneumonia like and even those who survived didn't recover, which is one of the things ignored with covid 19, basically that those who recover may well have messed up lungs for the rest of their lives etc.
The basic point I wanna make is that blaming can be done once we recover from this. For now if the evidence of it starting can help with a vaccine etc then let's focus on that
posted on 22/4/20
Isn't it Australian flu that was around towards the end of last year? I don't think it's Covid19 otherwise surely we'd have witnessed more deaths then and more widespread symptoms
posted on 22/4/20
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 17 minutes ago
Isn't it Australian flu that was around towards the end of last year? I don't think it's Covid19 otherwise surely we'd have witnessed more deaths then and more widespread symptoms
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Yeah, i think it is wishful thinking that many have already had it late last year because as you say, nobody was dying then.
posted on 22/4/20
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posted on 22/4/20
comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯ (U1561)
posted 7 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
has anyone on here had it? thought i saw someone the other day saying he had it in december but can't find it
Hope everyone is doing well, sending best wishes/health to you to ripley and everyone else
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think I've had it but like a lot of others I don't quite know for sure. 6 of us all came off a cruise ship on March 23 and all of us went down with a variety of the symptoms. About a week later P&O sent us a communication informing us that a member of their staff had tested positive for Corona.
Felt dead tired and breathless for about 10-12 days, sleeping all day and night, had the cough but no headache (which some of us did have) developed night sweats from days 7-10. All of us happily have now recovered and feel great. Two of us are key workers and once they get tested at some point it will give us an indication whether we had it or not.
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Good man, summer.
Stay safe and Ktbffh
posted on 22/4/20
comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯ (U1561)
posted 7 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
has anyone on here had it? thought i saw someone the other day saying he had it in december but can't find it
Hope everyone is doing well, sending best wishes/health to you to ripley and everyone else
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I think I've had it but like a lot of others I don't quite know for sure. 6 of us all came off a cruise ship on March 23 and all of us went down with a variety of the symptoms. About a week later P&O sent us a communication informing us that a member of their staff had tested positive for Corona.
Felt dead tired and breathless for about 10-12 days, sleeping all day and night, had the cough but no headache (which some of us did have) developed night sweats from days 7-10. All of us happily have now recovered and feel great. Two of us are key workers and once they get tested at some point it will give us an indication whether we had it or not.
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Good to hear youre ok now Summer
posted on 22/4/20
comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 9 hours, 45 minutes ago
Only other thing i'll add is, it has become to much of a "coincidence" now how many people i've seen describe having this in around november/december/january. Some people will lie to give themselves false hope, some people will have had something else, but it's genuinely verging on about 500-1,000 people i've seen say this now including doctors, pharmacists, ambulance drivers (e.g. they'd pick someone up and then end up getting sick themselves few days later). It's just clearly been here since november/december, guess that is kind of further evidenced by the fact Wuhan wasn't even rife with the " A " strain / first mutation.
2017/2018 was a really bad winter, 2018/2019 we didn't really have what i'd call a winter, this time it's been fackin cold and wintery since october and is still going even with high winds etc apart from the odd week/ week and half of warmish weather.
This might just be another one of them, to put into perspective all cause deaths in 2018 up to 15 april are still over 3,000 higher than all cause deathers up to 15 april 2020.
Not saying this isn't worse, especially by the amount of lives a lockdown has probably saved (Probably about 100 a day from car accidents etc+), but it does add some perspective and give a kind of bit better indication at an actual mortality rate than the 5%-10% it looks like.
It also p!sses me off we're all doing our bit by adhering to lockdown etc and fully accepted it and going the extra mile and all the amazing hero key workers, and then the government still lets 15k-20k people fly into fackin heathrow from all the hotspot countries with not even a temperature check
----------------------------------------------------------------------
this is a classic ignore the lock down response.
all one needs do is look at NY and apply it across the states.
Trumps moronic comments about not needing to vaccinate some states "cos they are spread out" is just lunacy and has stoked this attitude up.
If left unchecked a disease with a 5% mortality rate that is particularly invasive and attacks the lungs would frankly kill a million in the USA alone. (330 million people)
the fact is: yeah is a "really bad flu" but people need to get real. Cos 99% of people who say that have never had FLU!
posted on 22/4/20
Thanks for the concern and good wishes boys. Make sure you take good care of yourselves also. 👍
posted on 22/4/20
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 10 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 17 minutes ago
Isn't it Australian flu that was around towards the end of last year? I don't think it's Covid19 otherwise surely we'd have witnessed more deaths then and more widespread symptoms
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Yeah, i think it is wishful thinking that many have already had it late last year because as you say, nobody was dying then.
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Obviously no illness is good but I don't think we can blame Covid-19 on every illness for the last year or so. Keep safe!
posted on 22/4/20
comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯ (U1561)
posted 3 hours, 14 minutes ago
Thanks for the concern and good wishes boys. Make sure you take good care of yourselves also. 👍
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Chelsea need me up front next season.
A fat shaved head middle aged madman is what we need.
In my day, I was deceptively slow.🏂
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