https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8270403/amp/Premier-League-Championship-clubs-stopped-spending-money-transfer-window.html
didnt spurs have a transfer ban 2 summers ago?
Yes they should be banned if they’ve taken govt money. Especially pl teams.
Could be tricky to monitor, but my suggestion would be that any club asking players to take pay cuts can still make new signings during the next window, but WITHOUT increasing their 'post-cuts' wage bill.
In other words, if Arsenal were to sell Saka, it wouldn't leave them with much room to play with.
But sell Ozil and... sign whomever you facking well like
No I don't think so. Different budgets. But if they've received government support then they should pay that back first.
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 11 minutes ago
No I don't think so. Different budgets. But if they've received government support then they should pay that back first.
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Is it different budgets though? Couldn’t they take from one budget and use to top up the other?
I might be wrong but if a club MAKES a player take a wage cut, its breach of contract and the player can becone a free agent at the end of the season.
Could be bargains to be had...
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 4 seconds ago
I might be wrong but if a club MAKES a player take a wage cut, its breach of contract and the player can becone a free agent at the end of the season.
Could be bargains to be had...
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I don’t think they make them but they’ve come to a agreement with the players
Yeah would've thought so. Capex and Opex budgets. They could, but why would they if the players will take a pay increase?
I don't believe they should be taking government grants whilst they have £300m in the bank but I don't see the problem in asking players to take a cut cos their operating income is so greatly reduced.
Put it this way:
if you had £200k in the bank from the sale of a house last year and you moved in to a rental til you found the right one. You're now on lower income due to COVID and you've asked the landlord for a reduced rent during these times.
If they agree to reduce your rent do you think you should be banned from buying a house for a year?
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 6 minutes ago
Put it this way:
if you had £200k in the bank from the sale of a house last year and you moved in to a rental til you found the right one. You're now on lower income due to COVID and you've asked the landlord for a reduced rent during these times.
If they agree to reduce your rent do you think you should be banned from buying a house for a year?
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I’m not sure you can use this up against a football club imo
If you have current players on a wages deferred schemes and then a new player comes in full wages surely it will cause problems.
I wish Spurs would reverse their latest decision and take the furlough option. If it means saving a few quid - good! We pay our taxes and business is business. Spurs fans who kicked off about furlough are as idiotic as Pool fans How does that feel?
Also the whole it should be given to people who need it more is a load of tosh as well. This govt can find money like a drop of a hat as they have already proven. Foolish Spurs fans!
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 36 minutes ago
Put it this way:
if you had £200k in the bank from the sale of a house last year and you moved in to a rental til you found the right one. You're now on lower income due to COVID and you've asked the landlord for a reduced rent during these times.
If they agree to reduce your rent do you think you should be banned from buying a house for a year?
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Yeah, but like pl clubs I also get 100m every season....
comment by MKspur ツ (U9129)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 6 minutes ago
Put it this way:
if you had £200k in the bank from the sale of a house last year and you moved in to a rental til you found the right one. You're now on lower income due to COVID and you've asked the landlord for a reduced rent during these times.
If they agree to reduce your rent do you think you should be banned from buying a house for a year?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m not sure you can use this up against a football club imo
If you have current players on a wages deferred schemes and then a new player comes in full wages surely it will cause problems.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why not? You could pay your rent out of your capital budget but you wouldn't want to do that as it's earmarked / you need it for the house deposit.
If the wages are merely deferred then I don't see any issue. They'll be repaid, just a timing thing. If they're asked to take a reduction then when a new player comes in on full wages presumably all other playing staff will be back on full wages too. If not then sure there'll be a problem.
Even the PL teams that can survive without the TV money will have their finances destroyed by empty stadiums. All teams will be super reserved in the transfer market I suspect.
Maybe a few players will get cherry picked from less stable clubs for below market value but I can't see lots of activity this summer tbh.
Hard to see any mega deals taking place. I guess this is when you see what mangers can really improve their players through coaching 🤔
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
I'm not fussed. If furloughing staff ensures that those staff are kept in a job and it saves them from being laid off then that is the priority for me.
In an ideal world teams would be able to keep staff on entirely without pay cuts but at the end of the day they are businesses and are going to do what is best for the bottlm line. I would rather see staff furloughed than laid off and punishing clubs for furloughing would actively incentivise them to lay people off if the finances arent looking great
I think the Prem players have been incredibly greedy. Of course there has been the odd decent gesture here and there but anybody whos on 200k a week and isn't actually working should be giving up at least half of that.
I'm sure they won't starve.
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posted on 30/4/20
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8270403/amp/Premier-League-Championship-clubs-stopped-spending-money-transfer-window.html
posted on 30/4/20
didnt spurs have a transfer ban 2 summers ago?
posted on 30/4/20
Yes they should be banned if they’ve taken govt money. Especially pl teams.
posted on 30/4/20
Could be tricky to monitor, but my suggestion would be that any club asking players to take pay cuts can still make new signings during the next window, but WITHOUT increasing their 'post-cuts' wage bill.
posted on 30/4/20
In other words, if Arsenal were to sell Saka, it wouldn't leave them with much room to play with.
But sell Ozil and... sign whomever you facking well like
posted on 30/4/20
No I don't think so. Different budgets. But if they've received government support then they should pay that back first.
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 11 minutes ago
No I don't think so. Different budgets. But if they've received government support then they should pay that back first.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it different budgets though? Couldn’t they take from one budget and use to top up the other?
posted on 30/4/20
I might be wrong but if a club MAKES a player take a wage cut, its breach of contract and the player can becone a free agent at the end of the season.
Could be bargains to be had...
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 4 seconds ago
I might be wrong but if a club MAKES a player take a wage cut, its breach of contract and the player can becone a free agent at the end of the season.
Could be bargains to be had...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t think they make them but they’ve come to a agreement with the players
posted on 30/4/20
Yeah would've thought so. Capex and Opex budgets. They could, but why would they if the players will take a pay increase?
I don't believe they should be taking government grants whilst they have £300m in the bank but I don't see the problem in asking players to take a cut cos their operating income is so greatly reduced.
posted on 30/4/20
*decrease obvs
posted on 30/4/20
Put it this way:
if you had £200k in the bank from the sale of a house last year and you moved in to a rental til you found the right one. You're now on lower income due to COVID and you've asked the landlord for a reduced rent during these times.
If they agree to reduce your rent do you think you should be banned from buying a house for a year?
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 6 minutes ago
Put it this way:
if you had £200k in the bank from the sale of a house last year and you moved in to a rental til you found the right one. You're now on lower income due to COVID and you've asked the landlord for a reduced rent during these times.
If they agree to reduce your rent do you think you should be banned from buying a house for a year?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m not sure you can use this up against a football club imo
If you have current players on a wages deferred schemes and then a new player comes in full wages surely it will cause problems.
posted on 30/4/20
I wish Spurs would reverse their latest decision and take the furlough option. If it means saving a few quid - good! We pay our taxes and business is business. Spurs fans who kicked off about furlough are as idiotic as Pool fans How does that feel?
Also the whole it should be given to people who need it more is a load of tosh as well. This govt can find money like a drop of a hat as they have already proven. Foolish Spurs fans!
posted on 30/4/20
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 36 minutes ago
Put it this way:
if you had £200k in the bank from the sale of a house last year and you moved in to a rental til you found the right one. You're now on lower income due to COVID and you've asked the landlord for a reduced rent during these times.
If they agree to reduce your rent do you think you should be banned from buying a house for a year?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, but like pl clubs I also get 100m every season....
posted on 30/4/20
comment by MKspur ツ (U9129)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 6 minutes ago
Put it this way:
if you had £200k in the bank from the sale of a house last year and you moved in to a rental til you found the right one. You're now on lower income due to COVID and you've asked the landlord for a reduced rent during these times.
If they agree to reduce your rent do you think you should be banned from buying a house for a year?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m not sure you can use this up against a football club imo
If you have current players on a wages deferred schemes and then a new player comes in full wages surely it will cause problems.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why not? You could pay your rent out of your capital budget but you wouldn't want to do that as it's earmarked / you need it for the house deposit.
If the wages are merely deferred then I don't see any issue. They'll be repaid, just a timing thing. If they're asked to take a reduction then when a new player comes in on full wages presumably all other playing staff will be back on full wages too. If not then sure there'll be a problem.
posted on 30/4/20
Even the PL teams that can survive without the TV money will have their finances destroyed by empty stadiums. All teams will be super reserved in the transfer market I suspect.
Maybe a few players will get cherry picked from less stable clubs for below market value but I can't see lots of activity this summer tbh.
Hard to see any mega deals taking place. I guess this is when you see what mangers can really improve their players through coaching 🤔
posted on 30/4/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 30/4/20
I'm not fussed. If furloughing staff ensures that those staff are kept in a job and it saves them from being laid off then that is the priority for me.
In an ideal world teams would be able to keep staff on entirely without pay cuts but at the end of the day they are businesses and are going to do what is best for the bottlm line. I would rather see staff furloughed than laid off and punishing clubs for furloughing would actively incentivise them to lay people off if the finances arent looking great
posted on 30/4/20
I think the Prem players have been incredibly greedy. Of course there has been the odd decent gesture here and there but anybody whos on 200k a week and isn't actually working should be giving up at least half of that.
I'm sure they won't starve.
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