I like their clickbait headline and intro to reel in flat earthers. Still doesn't help reduce congestion in cities though when everyone eventually switches to electric. There still needs to be a shift away from private cars for cities to work in the future. Once they are as convenient as petrol cars for longer distances then they can replace those sort of trips where other forms of transport are not possible or convenient. So a great solution with regards to air quality but can't still have people behaving in the way they do currently and just replacing their car with an electric one.


The video mentions my friend Euan from uni

Thanks for the input Ollie. EV's are not a quick fix, but they are part of the solution.

Long journeys in this country are not really an issue, especially Tesla's. Most new EV's will do at least 200 miles, and in Tesla's case up to 400 miles, and with new battery tech that is only increasing.

EV's will also be part of the solution for private car use, and congestion. well automation will. many have no idea how quickly this is coming.

As for peoples beliefs, you cannot change society over night, but you can offer a better path for them to follow. Most people are still ignorant of EV's and their benefits, not just for the environment, but their pocket too.

Not enough charging points is the biggest complaint.

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago

Not enough charging points is the biggest complaint.

Thanks for posting this Boris, it is good to see peoples thinking. Again this is based around peoples perceptions as opposed to the reality. there are more charging stations than petrol stations, with more added every day.

https://www.edfenergy.com/electric-cars/charging-points

That's misleading.

People who drive for a living need Ultra Fast Chargers which can be expensive and not that easy to find in many cities.

The charging infrastructure is a fact. new 350kw Chargers are being fitted along all major routes, if you drive for a living, you will have a decent range car 300 plus.

Charging isn't the issue people think it is.

Remember this is where we are now, the network is growing rapidly, with examples like this.

https://www.gridserve.com/post/uk-s-first-electric-forecourt-is-under-construction-opening-summer-2020

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 days, 18 hours ago
That's misleading.

People who drive for a living need Ultra Fast Chargers which can be expensive and not that easy to find in many cities.
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How many people is that though? How many people regularly drive 300+ miles with no breaks?

Cab drivers.

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
Cab drivers.
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I highly dispute that very many of them ever drive more than 300 miles in one go. But let's play some numbers.
285,400 registered taxis and private hire vehicles in England.
Around 27,000,000 registered cars in England. So around 1% of them are taxis/cabs.

Could still switch the vast majority of people to electric cars and they wouldn't notice any drawbacks.

comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 2 days, 19 hours ago
The charging infrastructure is a fact. new 350kw Chargers are being fitted along all major routes, if you drive for a living, you will have a decent range car 300 plus.

Charging isn't the issue people think it is.

Remember this is where we are now, the network is growing rapidly, with examples like this.

https://www.gridserve.com/post/uk-s-first-electric-forecourt-is-under-construction-opening-summer-2020
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Taxi drivers don't have defined breaks, they usually grab a sandwich when it's a bit quiet but some days they can drive more or less continously for 9 or 10 hours.

My mate has just bought an electric Black Cab which cost him nearly £60k.

The range is about 75 miles but it does have the back-up of a small petrol engine.

This is about what a driver covers in an average day but a couple of times a week someone will want to go on a longer journey eg Manchester to Heathrow or Manchester to Glasgow. The driver can't say to the customer, who is invariably in a hurry, "You don't mind if we stop for an an hour or so on the way so I can charge the battery?"

To offset costs, many owners 'double track' their vechicles, ie they drive it during the day, someone else drives it at night or vice versa and many times one driver takes straight over from the other without even turning the engine off - Waiting a couple of hours for it to charge isn't an option.

Some of the faster chargers, especially the ones at motorway service stations, are hideously expensive and drivers say it costs more than it would using conventional fuel.

comment by Drunken Hobo (U7360)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
Cab drivers.
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I highly dispute that very many of them ever drive more than 300 miles in one go. But let's play some numbers.
285,400 registered taxis and private hire vehicles in England.
Around 27,000,000 registered cars in England. So around 1% of them are taxis/cabs.

Could still switch the vast majority of people to electric cars and they wouldn't notice any drawbacks.
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Using EV's is a no brainer if you're a commuter doing the same run everyday, other than the initial outlay or not having access to a home charger.

I highly dispute that very many of them ever drive more than 300 miles in one go. But let's play some numbers.
285,400 registered taxis and private hire vehicles in England.
Around 27,000,000 registered cars in England. So around 1% of them are taxis/cabs.

I've no problem with the Clean Air Act, just the way it's being implimented.

As it stands you could drive a Hummer into a city centre just for the hell of it, but you would be fined about £60 pw for driving a 2015, fuel efficent, Euro 5 Black Cab taking a disabled people to hospital appointments

The Government are targeting Cabs, Buses and HGV's first when they should be going for gas guzzlers making unnecessary journeys.

https://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/130795/electric-avenue-best-route-for-taxi-firms

comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 1 minute ago
https://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/130795/electric-avenue-best-route-for-taxi-firms


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That's Private Hire cars (minicabs).

Black Cabs (taxis) have to meet totally different criteria.

That's Private Hire cars (minicabs).

Black Cabs (taxis) have to meet totally different criteria.

It doesn't change the fundamentals.

It does.

Any 4 door EV can be used as a minicab.

Only 2 types of EV (LEVC and Nissan) have been approved to be used as Hackney Carriages (Black Cabs) in most of the large cities though there are a couple of others that are likely to be approved.

Yes they are called Black Cabs. But the fundamentals of EV's do not change. because it is in the shape of a Black Cab.

I doubt there will be any long term barriers to black cabs being electric. More likely the opposite

Which fundamentals?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=18&v=e4FxvHhxYCw&feature=emb_logo

That's an LEVC promo

Try looking at the comments on their Twitter.

It doesn't matter. The savings are real. that is the nature of electric.

I'm not disputing that but the lack of infrastructure outside of London is a major concern with many drivers not being able to charge at home because they don't have a driveway.

It is the future but not the present when you consider the price and the fact no one knows what problems will occur after 5 years.

I refer you back to this.

https://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/news-headlines/130795/electric-avenue-best-route-for-taxi-firms

Oh and I have no idea what problems you think are happening in five years?