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posted on 10/5/20

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posted on 10/5/20

I think what’s happened with Dresden could be the final nail for any idea to restart this seasons PL. Trying to cram the season into a tight 4-6 week window is not going to work if a team comes down with the virus and can’t play for a fortnight.

comment by Shijiu (U22385)

posted on 10/5/20

comment by Ban Wissaka (U5318)
posted 3 minutes ago
For those who will get relegated not receiving the final third of the TV money is a lot better than risk of dropping down and staying down fora number of years like Sunderland, stoke, birmingham etc. I said it to my mates at the beginning of the pause, they will do everything they can to get the season cancelled. They would much rather have another go at staying up than risk resuming the 9 games and having to play their way to safety. They will push for a cancelation and teams stay as it is or for the idea of having 22 teams.
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The problem for them is that if the season isn't finished they're still probably going down.

Clubs will vote to call the league as it is or in PPG which will ensure they get the merit payments. This will send the bottom three down. This is what Brighton actually want.

Season unfinished and PPG will see Brighton paid all the merit payments and international TV money and still retain Prem status.

Once the vote for completing the season behind closed doors is defeated, Brighton will probably quickly change sides and vote to send the bottom three down while securing millions for themselves and Prem football next season.

posted on 10/5/20

comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Ban Wissaka (U5318)
posted 3 minutes ago
For those who will get relegated not receiving the final third of the TV money is a lot better than risk of dropping down and staying down fora number of years like Sunderland, stoke, birmingham etc. I said it to my mates at the beginning of the pause, they will do everything they can to get the season cancelled. They would much rather have another go at staying up than risk resuming the 9 games and having to play their way to safety. They will push for a cancelation and teams stay as it is or for the idea of having 22 teams.
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The problem for them is that if the season isn't finished they're still probably going down.

Clubs will vote to call the league as it is or in PPG which will ensure they get the merit payments. This will send the bottom three down. This is what Brighton actually want.

Season unfinished and PPG will see Brighton paid all the merit payments and international TV money and still retain Prem status.

Once the vote for completing the season behind closed doors is defeated, Brighton will probably quickly change sides and vote to send the bottom three down while securing millions for themselves and Prem football next season.
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Once the vote is to end the season is concluded and Uefa confirm that European competition is impossible next year due to travel restrictions and teams having to isolate upon return, other than Liverpool, which Club is going to care about null and void?

posted on 10/5/20

Tbh I'd watch pub football, with no crowds and 20 subs, if it was on TV at the moment 😆

comment by Shijiu (U22385)

posted on 10/5/20

comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Ban Wissaka (U5318)
posted 3 minutes ago
For those who will get relegated not receiving the final third of the TV money is a lot better than risk of dropping down and staying down fora number of years like Sunderland, stoke, birmingham etc. I said it to my mates at the beginning of the pause, they will do everything they can to get the season cancelled. They would much rather have another go at staying up than risk resuming the 9 games and having to play their way to safety. They will push for a cancelation and teams stay as it is or for the idea of having 22 teams.
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The problem for them is that if the season isn't finished they're still probably going down.

Clubs will vote to call the league as it is or in PPG which will ensure they get the merit payments. This will send the bottom three down. This is what Brighton actually want.

Season unfinished and PPG will see Brighton paid all the merit payments and international TV money and still retain Prem status.

Once the vote for completing the season behind closed doors is defeated, Brighton will probably quickly change sides and vote to send the bottom three down while securing millions for themselves and Prem football next season.
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Once the vote is to end the season is concluded and Uefa confirm that European competition is impossible next year due to travel restrictions and teams having to isolate upon return, other than Liverpool, which Club is going to care about null and void?
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Yeah, this will definitely happen.

posted on 10/5/20

Every club will vote for whatever's best for themselves, no one will be handing out favours.

That's the nature of business.

posted on 10/5/20

comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Ban Wissaka (U5318)
posted 3 minutes ago
For those who will get relegated not receiving the final third of the TV money is a lot better than risk of dropping down and staying down fora number of years like Sunderland, stoke, birmingham etc. I said it to my mates at the beginning of the pause, they will do everything they can to get the season cancelled. They would much rather have another go at staying up than risk resuming the 9 games and having to play their way to safety. They will push for a cancelation and teams stay as it is or for the idea of having 22 teams.
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The problem for them is that if the season isn't finished they're still probably going down.

Clubs will vote to call the league as it is or in PPG which will ensure they get the merit payments. This will send the bottom three down. This is what Brighton actually want.

Season unfinished and PPG will see Brighton paid all the merit payments and international TV money and still retain Prem status.

Once the vote for completing the season behind closed doors is defeated, Brighton will probably quickly change sides and vote to send the bottom three down while securing millions for themselves and Prem football next season.
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Once the vote is to end the season is concluded and Uefa confirm that European competition is impossible next year due to travel restrictions and teams having to isolate upon return, other than Liverpool, which Club is going to care about null and void?
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Yeah, this will definitely happen.
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Brighton won’t be paid all the money though. Because the Premier League will not have completed the contracted games for the broadcaster. For Brighton this is more acceptable than relegation though. But for a lot of sides above them that believe they are safe this is not acceptable. They need that money.

comment by Shijiu (U22385)

posted on 10/5/20

But they will maintain their Prem status.

Depends on what the broadcaster demands. Its been reported that TV companies might be interested in negotiating a "deal".

posted on 10/5/20

Brighton could have said last week that they had players affected by covid 19, but no, they played the scared of relegation card. I can't see project restart getting 14 yes votes

posted on 10/5/20

comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Ban Wissaka (U5318)
posted 3 minutes ago
For those who will get relegated not receiving the final third of the TV money is a lot better than risk of dropping down and staying down fora number of years like Sunderland, stoke, birmingham etc. I said it to my mates at the beginning of the pause, they will do everything they can to get the season cancelled. They would much rather have another go at staying up than risk resuming the 9 games and having to play their way to safety. They will push for a cancelation and teams stay as it is or for the idea of having 22 teams.
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The problem for them is that if the season isn't finished they're still probably going down.

Clubs will vote to call the league as it is or in PPG which will ensure they get the merit payments. This will send the bottom three down. This is what Brighton actually want.

Season unfinished and PPG will see Brighton paid all the merit payments and international TV money and still retain Prem status.

Once the vote for completing the season behind closed doors is defeated, Brighton will probably quickly change sides and vote to send the bottom three down while securing millions for themselves and Prem football next season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Once the vote is to end the season is concluded and Uefa confirm that European competition is impossible next year due to travel restrictions and teams having to isolate upon return, other than Liverpool, which Club is going to care about null and void?
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Yeah, this will definitely happen.
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Brighton won’t be paid all the money though. Because the Premier League will not have completed the contracted games for the broadcaster. For Brighton this is more acceptable than relegation though. But for a lot of sides above them that believe they are safe this is not acceptable. They need that money.
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It’s £1b across 20 teams, so £50m each - sure a few clubs may desperately need that but do Spurs, Arsenal, Newcastle with their new owners? Throw in the bottom 6 and suddenly 14 teams looks difficult.

They could also just front load next season TV rights, pay the clubs now and play the games later.

It’s not difficult seeing ways around this if you try.

posted on 10/5/20

Negotiating a deal means that the premier league doesn’t get what it originally expected otherwise there would be nothing to negotiate.

Unless of course the premier league can offer something valuable to the broadcasters. Which is live football.

Most sides will maintain their premiership status whether the season continues or not so the option for them is more money or less.

Brighton, Watford/Villa, & West Ham are the clubs that have something to lose if the season restarts because they are the ones who’s current status is most likely to change for the worse. So they will be happy to sacrifice the money for the guarantee of safety. Not many others will share their concern.

posted on 10/5/20

Evidence please Brighton or will they be saying it’s confidential medical issue ffs

Seriously if my team was bottom 6 I would want the owners to come out and say we want to play we have nothing to fear. What message are the owners of bottom 6 teams giving their players and fans - we are rubbish and scared of playing ffs

Man up and take on the battle

posted on 10/5/20

comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Ban Wissaka (U5318)
posted 3 minutes ago
For those who will get relegated not receiving the final third of the TV money is a lot better than risk of dropping down and staying down fora number of years like Sunderland, stoke, birmingham etc. I said it to my mates at the beginning of the pause, they will do everything they can to get the season cancelled. They would much rather have another go at staying up than risk resuming the 9 games and having to play their way to safety. They will push for a cancelation and teams stay as it is or for the idea of having 22 teams.
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The problem for them is that if the season isn't finished they're still probably going down.

Clubs will vote to call the league as it is or in PPG which will ensure they get the merit payments. This will send the bottom three down. This is what Brighton actually want.

Season unfinished and PPG will see Brighton paid all the merit payments and international TV money and still retain Prem status.

Once the vote for completing the season behind closed doors is defeated, Brighton will probably quickly change sides and vote to send the bottom three down while securing millions for themselves and Prem football next season.
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The likely hood of the PL relegating the current bottom three if the season is cancelled or called, is probably the least likely scenario. It's more likely that they keep it as is and not promote the Championship teams or move to a 22 team league for next season.

posted on 10/5/20

comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 3 minutes ago
Negotiating a deal means that the premier league doesn’t get what it originally expected otherwise there would be nothing to negotiate.

Unless of course the premier league can offer something valuable to the broadcasters. Which is live football.

Most sides will maintain their premiership status whether the season continues or not so the option for them is more money or less.

Brighton, Watford/Villa, & West Ham are the clubs that have something to lose if the season restarts because they are the ones who’s current status is most likely to change for the worse. So they will be happy to sacrifice the money for the guarantee of safety. Not many others will share their concern.
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£50m to complete this season or £200m to play a full fixture list next season

posted on 10/5/20

comment by Ban Wissaka (U5318)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Ban Wissaka (U5318)
posted 3 minutes ago
For those who will get relegated not receiving the final third of the TV money is a lot better than risk of dropping down and staying down fora number of years like Sunderland, stoke, birmingham etc. I said it to my mates at the beginning of the pause, they will do everything they can to get the season cancelled. They would much rather have another go at staying up than risk resuming the 9 games and having to play their way to safety. They will push for a cancelation and teams stay as it is or for the idea of having 22 teams.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The problem for them is that if the season isn't finished they're still probably going down.

Clubs will vote to call the league as it is or in PPG which will ensure they get the merit payments. This will send the bottom three down. This is what Brighton actually want.

Season unfinished and PPG will see Brighton paid all the merit payments and international TV money and still retain Prem status.

Once the vote for completing the season behind closed doors is defeated, Brighton will probably quickly change sides and vote to send the bottom three down while securing millions for themselves and Prem football next season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The likely hood of the PL relegating the current bottom three if the season is cancelled or called, is probably the least likely scenario. It's more likely that they keep it as is and not promote the Championship teams or move to a 22 team league for next season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yep and with likelihood of no euro footy next season, there will be plenty of time to complete games.

The fairest and most sensible way to complete the season is to scrap it, declare Liverpool champions and promote Leeds and West Brom without relegating other sides. If there is no euro club footy like I suspect then there is little else to resolve. Prize money for places can just be based on current standings - no clubs going to court over less than £2m placing money.

posted on 10/5/20

comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ban Wissaka (U5318)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Ban Wissaka (U5318)
posted 3 minutes ago
For those who will get relegated not receiving the final third of the TV money is a lot better than risk of dropping down and staying down fora number of years like Sunderland, stoke, birmingham etc. I said it to my mates at the beginning of the pause, they will do everything they can to get the season cancelled. They would much rather have another go at staying up than risk resuming the 9 games and having to play their way to safety. They will push for a cancelation and teams stay as it is or for the idea of having 22 teams.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The problem for them is that if the season isn't finished they're still probably going down.

Clubs will vote to call the league as it is or in PPG which will ensure they get the merit payments. This will send the bottom three down. This is what Brighton actually want.

Season unfinished and PPG will see Brighton paid all the merit payments and international TV money and still retain Prem status.

Once the vote for completing the season behind closed doors is defeated, Brighton will probably quickly change sides and vote to send the bottom three down while securing millions for themselves and Prem football next season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The likely hood of the PL relegating the current bottom three if the season is cancelled or called, is probably the least likely scenario. It's more likely that they keep it as is and not promote the Championship teams or move to a 22 team league for next season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yep and with likelihood of no euro footy next season, there will be plenty of time to complete games.

The fairest and most sensible way to complete the season is to scrap it, declare Liverpool champions and promote Leeds and West Brom without relegating other sides. If there is no euro club footy like I suspect then there is little else to resolve. Prize money for places can just be based on current standings - no clubs going to court over less than £2m placing money.
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This is the most sensible approach. With one addition.

Declare atletico champions league winners for beating the champions..

posted on 10/5/20

Do we really think UEFA will scrap the CL for a year? Doubt it, they're too money hungry! More likely they'll make it straight knock out and push it to start later than normal.

posted on 10/5/20

comment by Ban Wissaka (U5318)
posted 2 minutes ago
Do we really think UEFA will scrap the CL for a year? Doubt it, they're too money hungry! More likely they'll make it straight knock out and push it to start later than normal.
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I think they may not have a choice if quarantine measures are in place in Italy, Spain and England

comment by Shijiu (U22385)

posted on 10/5/20

comment by Ban Wissaka (U5318)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Ban Wissaka (U5318)
posted 3 minutes ago
For those who will get relegated not receiving the final third of the TV money is a lot better than risk of dropping down and staying down fora number of years like Sunderland, stoke, birmingham etc. I said it to my mates at the beginning of the pause, they will do everything they can to get the season cancelled. They would much rather have another go at staying up than risk resuming the 9 games and having to play their way to safety. They will push for a cancelation and teams stay as it is or for the idea of having 22 teams.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The problem for them is that if the season isn't finished they're still probably going down.

Clubs will vote to call the league as it is or in PPG which will ensure they get the merit payments. This will send the bottom three down. This is what Brighton actually want.

Season unfinished and PPG will see Brighton paid all the merit payments and international TV money and still retain Prem status.

Once the vote for completing the season behind closed doors is defeated, Brighton will probably quickly change sides and vote to send the bottom three down while securing millions for themselves and Prem football next season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The likely hood of the PL relegating the current bottom three if the season is cancelled or called, is probably the least likely scenario. It's more likely that they keep it as is and not promote the Championship teams or move to a 22 team league for next season.
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Then you are not informed in my humble opinion. Its the most likely option if the season isn't finished.

posted on 10/5/20

Norwich don't deserve another season in the PL, they are 7 points from safety. Just weren't going to stay up.

If the bottom 3 reject any ways to play, then relegate them

posted on 10/5/20

comment by Best Fans - ¡Leeds Carajo! (U2196)
posted 6 minutes ago
Norwich don't deserve another season in the PL, they are 7 points from safety. Just weren't going to stay up.

If the bottom 3 reject any ways to play, then relegate them
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If 7 teams refuse to play then there is nothing the league can do, they need 14 teams on side to get a vote passed.

posted on 10/5/20

comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Best Fans - ¡Leeds Carajo! (U2196)
posted 6 minutes ago
Norwich don't deserve another season in the PL, they are 7 points from safety. Just weren't going to stay up.

If the bottom 3 reject any ways to play, then relegate them
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If 7 teams refuse to play then there is nothing the league can do, they need 14 teams on side to get a vote passed.
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They don’t need the season to finish to relegate the bottom three though.

And they have made it quite clear they will be relegating three sides even if the season doesn’t restart.

comment by Shijiu (U22385)

posted on 10/5/20

comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Best Fans - ¡Leeds Carajo! (U2196)
posted 6 minutes ago
Norwich don't deserve another season in the PL, they are 7 points from safety. Just weren't going to stay up.

If the bottom 3 reject any ways to play, then relegate them
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If 7 teams refuse to play then there is nothing the league can do, they need 14 teams on side to get a vote passed.
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Really? https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/421417

posted on 10/5/20

comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Best Fans - ¡Leeds Carajo! (U2196)
posted 6 minutes ago
Norwich don't deserve another season in the PL, they are 7 points from safety. Just weren't going to stay up.

If the bottom 3 reject any ways to play, then relegate them
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If 7 teams refuse to play then there is nothing the league can do, they need 14 teams on side to get a vote passed.
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Really? https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/421417
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Would love to see the FA try and enforce it, they’ve not got anything right in over a decade.

There is always exceptions to rules and no one could see this coming. I think they may have to make concessions - which they will do if sufficient money for grass roots football is raised.

Like you, mines just an opinion

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