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comment by meltonblue (U10617)
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As are poor education systems that aren’t honest about domestic history.
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This is a good point as well. Though I understand why in the UK they’re particularly apprehensive about teaching about certain eras of British history.
Not so much as to whitewash, but also to stop people glorifying and weaponising the British Empire. It meets their political and social needs to avoid it.
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Completely agree, which is why it’ll be another sticking plaster until the next time.
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It’s a difficult one to approach, to be fair. The British Empire is a contentious subject even among historians, and then when you have consider political bias, how does an education system go about teaching it to young minds?
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comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
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I wonder what family unit Chauvin grew up in that contributed to him becoming a murdering racist
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Just for talk sake, did he kill for skin colour or that cop power trip thing?
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Would rather explore the influence of his parental upbringing in him becoming a racist and murderer.
Children aren't born racists or bigots
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Cheers for the brief.
Do you know he was racist or just a cop power trip thug?
His colleagues were not all white, so were they racist bigots too?
Good luck exploring his parental upbringing though.
Winter nights must fly in!
I would just call it bad cop got justice and we all move on together, but that is just what Floyd's family want, and not what you and guys here seek, so fill your boots.
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comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 #worldpeace (U1661)
posted 8 minutes ago
It's a lack of father figures in the black community which contributes to their lack of education, high violent crimes rates, high murder rates in comparison to other races. Its probably the most important factor.
Black children raised in two parent households are far less likely to commit crimes or violent acts.
Yes George floyd was a criminal, but him getting killed by a police officer is an anomaly, as the stats show.
It is irrelevant in the discussion of improving black childrens education and future prospects.
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Wow this is shockingly racist and the reason people are protesting. Generalisation of black people as lacking father figures. Wtf.
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Are you a bit slow? There are facts and figures which highlight this.
67 percent of black children, are born into single parent families.
Compared to 24 percent of white children.
Grow up.
https://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/107-children-in-single-parent-families-by-race#detailed/1/any/false/37,871,870,573,869,36,868,867,133,38/10,11,9,12,1,185,13/432,431
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I'd like to know how this data has been gathered. I will read up. Do they conduct surveys for every new born or is it based on married couples? These days a high proportion of couples don't even get married before having kids..
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comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 3 minutes ago
Has anyone come out with some practical steps to solve this, because protesting and rioting isn't going to solve anything itself.
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As Denzel Washington said. Stop blaming the system, it starts at home, how you raise your kids, the father figure they have.
He got slammed for saying that.
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Not surprised, it’s retaaaarded.
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Of course. A lot of people nowadays feel personal accountability shouldn't exist.
Much easier to blame someone else for own, or your childrens shortcomings.
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Yeah, it’s absolutely the father of George Lloyd’s fault that his son was murdered in the streets in broad daylight.
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It's a lack of father figures in the black community which contributes to their lack of education, high violent crimes rates, high murder rates in comparison to other races. Its probably the most important factor.
Black children raised in two parent households are far less likely to commit crimes or violent acts.
Yes George floyd was a criminal, but him getting killed by a police officer is an anomaly, as the stats show.
It is irrelevant in the discussion of improving black childrens education and future prospects.
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Can you share which stats you’re referring to? Genuinely intrigued as to which studies you’re looking at as it clearly differs from the ones I’ve seen.
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I have read multiple studies on this.
You have read studies stating children from single parent households on average do better in life e.g. education, crime etc.
Can you lino me to this study?
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I was talking about you saying him being killed by a police officer being an anomaly, I asked before in this thread as well about the same thing as you mention it in the OP. I’m interested in the study about black people not being disproportionately killed by police officers.
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There are links in the OP, feel free to read them.
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Yep I did. Neither of those correlate to the stats over the past five years (given when they were written, that’s not surprising though!). I’ve only read one properly but I think you need to check the datasets they used...
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 10 minutes ago
As are poor education systems that aren’t honest about domestic history.
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This is a good point as well. Though I understand why in the UK they’re particularly apprehensive about teaching about certain eras of British history.
Not so much as to whitewash, but also to stop people glorifying and weaponising the British Empire. It meets their political and social needs to avoid it.
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Completely agree, which is why it’ll be another sticking plaster until the next time.
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It’s a difficult one to approach, to be fair. The British Empire is a contentious subject even among historians, and then when you have consider political bias, how does an education system go about teaching it to young minds?
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When Scots, Irish, Welsh and English all took part in empire building and live off it's rewards, how do we talk to the kids?
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Candice Owens is an absolute goddess and incredibly intelligent. Listen to her. She gets it.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 #worldpeace (U1661)
posted 8 minutes ago
It's a lack of father figures in the black community which contributes to their lack of education, high violent crimes rates, high murder rates in comparison to other races. Its probably the most important factor.
Black children raised in two parent households are far less likely to commit crimes or violent acts.
Yes George floyd was a criminal, but him getting killed by a police officer is an anomaly, as the stats show.
It is irrelevant in the discussion of improving black childrens education and future prospects.
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Wow this is shockingly racist and the reason people are protesting. Generalisation of black people as lacking father figures. Wtf.
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Are you a bit slow? There are facts and figures which highlight this.
67 percent of black children, are born into single parent families.
Compared to 24 percent of white children.
Grow up.
https://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/107-children-in-single-parent-families-by-race#detailed/1/any/false/37,871,870,573,869,36,868,867,133,38/10,11,9,12,1,185,13/432,431
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I'd like to know how this data has been gathered. I will read up. Do they conduct surveys for every new born or is it based on married couples? These days a high proportion of couples don't even get married before having kids..
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Stats are a bigger when they rip your world viiew up.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 10 minutes ago
As are poor education systems that aren’t honest about domestic history.
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This is a good point as well. Though I understand why in the UK they’re particularly apprehensive about teaching about certain eras of British history.
Not so much as to whitewash, but also to stop people glorifying and weaponising the British Empire. It meets their political and social needs to avoid it.
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Completely agree, which is why it’ll be another sticking plaster until the next time.
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It’s a difficult one to approach, to be fair. The British Empire is a contentious subject even among historians, and then when you have consider political bias, how does an education system go about teaching it to young minds?
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When Scots, Irish, Welsh and English all took part in empire building and live off it's rewards, how do we talk to the kids?
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Is there a point here?
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comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
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comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 #worldpeace (U1661)
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 #worldpeace (U1661)
posted 4 minutes ago
It is exactly the reason black people go to job interviews and get rejected in favour of whites. Because someone carries this sort of negative prejudice and stereotype about blacks being worse than whites. Shocking.
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That is racist against whites panels and emoyees.
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Wtf?
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You just said white people carry racism into interview panels, thus excluding candidates based on skin tone alone....that a big WTF, don't ya,think.
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I didn't say whites. I said "people" carry racial bias. You know it hence why you immediately interpreted it as an attack on whites. Typical closet racist.
comment by Poolmyfinger - Truth Teller - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 5 minutes ago
100% agree with Ron.
Let's see 246 comments and I am going to go on a limb here and take a guess how often Ron was insulted. It's the leftist playbook.
Anyway, police aren't going out of their way to murder blacks. If they were, cops would be going one by one.
Here are the issue(s). Gang culture, fatherless homes, no respect for authority, and voting in Democrats. That last one is a big one because they only care about African-Americans during election years.
Also, notice that groups like BLM only care when it's a white officer - or a white person - who kills a black person? Yet, go to Chicago where there's always a record number of black-on-black crime. BLM says nothing about it.
But nobody wants to talk about that. Instead it's easier to "blame whitey".
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Good luck my man.....time for bed here, but fight the good fight.
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comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 #worldpeace (U1661)
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comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 #worldpeace (U1661)
posted 8 minutes ago
It's a lack of father figures in the black community which contributes to their lack of education, high violent crimes rates, high murder rates in comparison to other races. Its probably the most important factor.
Black children raised in two parent households are far less likely to commit crimes or violent acts.
Yes George floyd was a criminal, but him getting killed by a police officer is an anomaly, as the stats show.
It is irrelevant in the discussion of improving black childrens education and future prospects.
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Wow this is shockingly racist and the reason people are protesting. Generalisation of black people as lacking father figures. Wtf.
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Are you a bit slow? There are facts and figures which highlight this.
67 percent of black children, are born into single parent families.
Compared to 24 percent of white children.
Grow up.
https://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/107-children-in-single-parent-families-by-race#detailed/1/any/false/37,871,870,573,869,36,868,867,133,38/10,11,9,12,1,185,13/432,431
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I'd like to know how this data has been gathered. I will read up. Do they conduct surveys for every new born or is it based on married couples? These days a high proportion of couples don't even get married before having kids..
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Stats are a bigger when they rip your world viiew up.
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Well you can interpret it how you like. Racist. My comment clearly makes a good point. Not being married doesn't necessarily mean being a single parent.
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comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 46 seconds ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 5 minutes ago
I wonder what family unit Chauvin grew up in that contributed to him becoming a murdering racist
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Just for talk sake, did he kill for skin colour or that cop power trip thing?
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Would rather explore the influence of his parental upbringing in him becoming a racist and murderer.
Children aren't born racists or bigots
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Cheers for the brief.
Do you know he was racist or just a cop power trip thug?
His colleagues were not all white, so were they racist bigots too?
Good luck exploring his parental upbringing though.
Winter nights must fly in!
I would just call it bad cop got justice and we all move on together, but that is just what Floyd's family want, and not what you and guys here seek, so fill your boots.
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You've no idea what I want 😂
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comment by Christopher (U20930)
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Candice Owens is an absolute goddess and incredibly intelligent. Listen to her. She gets it.
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Don;t know what's so funny. I'd listen to her than your spokeswoman, Rachel Madcow.
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Yeah I don't know who that Is mate, I do know who candace owens is though
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comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 10 minutes ago
As are poor education systems that aren’t honest about domestic history.
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This is a good point as well. Though I understand why in the UK they’re particularly apprehensive about teaching about certain eras of British history.
Not so much as to whitewash, but also to stop people glorifying and weaponising the British Empire. It meets their political and social needs to avoid it.
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Completely agree, which is why it’ll be another sticking plaster until the next time.
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It’s a difficult one to approach, to be fair. The British Empire is a contentious subject even among historians, and then when you have consider political bias, how does an education system go about teaching it to young minds?
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It’s similar to this discussion though, it’s a change in mindset that’s needed about why teach it. This thread alone is some proof of why it’s needed though! Anything to make people think even slightly deeper is a good thing.
And for any blaming blacks or black culture for police treatment, you should read what I posted earlier. I will post it again below. There is a direct link between poverty and crime. Black were left behind as a result of slavery and discrimination that occurred for years. In fact it was only 60 years ago that segregation became unlawful. What posted earlier.
Every single day blacks literally have to think about/worry about what an average white person doesn't think/know exists.
Like going to a job interview... "Are they going to reject the application due to being black?" "What if the interviewer is racist?"
Going into a shop with your mates.. "they'll probably feel threatened, so some of you should probably wait outside"
Works hard and buys yourself a brand expensive car.. "he probably made money from drugs, otherwise how could he afford the car?"
Gets stopped by police... "Oh sh..t, is this cop going to feel threatened and shot+kill?"
This was my response to Ron last night.
I'm not sure black are hating on whites. They're merely fighting for equal footing in society. Any person that feels attacked should imagine it this way... Imagine you're competing in a 100m race and you're placed to start 3 seconds behind your competitors every single time.. just like your parents and grandparents were. I'm sure you'd get fed up eventually and start protesting.
That's literally how it has been for blacks. Due to effects of slavery, they started off way behind others with no wealth (no land, no credit, no savings, etc.). It's pretty difficult to start off on nothing compared to someone who's had the chance/freedom/ability to have these. So basically very little/no chance of winning. When you finally think you've got it, you've got a chance, and go for a job interview, the employer stereotypes and imagines that you're probably second place to your white competitor (due to your history and background - you didn't attend the best school, no work experience, etc). You lose again.
And then you try to go to school, but then it's critically underfunded. Can't afford books, barely have enough teachers to teach and leave school with nothing. You become and adult and try to get a job feed your family. You're on minimum wage or below and can't feed your family. You start to dabble into illegal practices, crime and drugs. You become part of a gang to fight people like yourself over control of drugs, money and territory. "Black on black crime". No such thing. It's just crime. Crime driven by poverty. No one calls white on white crime..
Some get fortunate and escape through arts (music, film and sports).
Oh I don’t disagree with that, my concern is more to do with having the correct mechanisms for which it can be taught in the correct manner.
Interestingly I think that right now is possibly the worst time to introduce it into the education system. Like I mentioned above about the dangers of it, having the political division we do now makes it even more difficult to achieve.
Might sound odd when I agree that more people need educating on it, but I’m sure you get the point.
Im curious joe as to what problems you anticipate from teaching British history
Yeah, there’s absolutely no chance of it happening any time soon and this certainly isn’t the government that would do it anyway!
I do find it slightly ironic when the posters that go on about personal responsibility of individual actions are the ones that seemingly haven't taken any personal responsibility themselves to try and learn more about the actual root causes that drive those actions in the first place.
Consider the issues we’re having right now regarding Brexit, and the political division it’s caused. This is happening in a country that is largely uneducated on the British Empire. I think it’d exasperate the issue, as it’s a pretty divisive issue among historians, let alone the uneducated masses.
melts, yeah and it’s a good thing they won’t given how they’d try and spin it.
I don’t think they want to learn or understand. They want to seek out something that confirms an already entrenched position.
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
Consider the issues we’re having right now regarding Brexit, and the political division it’s caused. This is happening in a country that is largely uneducated on the British Empire. I think it’d exasperate the issue, as it’s a pretty divisive issue among historians, let alone the uneducated masses.
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At least keep the lines straight.
Do people actually talk to you?
It is exactly that and then accuse others of doing similar to try and detract from their own shortcomings. Bluebells is a prime example in this thread!
Police aren't institutionally racist...
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comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 10 minutes ago
As are poor education systems that aren’t honest about domestic history.
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This is a good point as well. Though I understand why in the UK they’re particularly apprehensive about teaching about certain eras of British history.
Not so much as to whitewash, but also to stop people glorifying and weaponising the British Empire. It meets their political and social needs to avoid it.
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Completely agree, which is why it’ll be another sticking plaster until the next time.
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It’s a difficult one to approach, to be fair. The British Empire is a contentious subject even among historians, and then when you have consider political bias, how does an education system go about teaching it to young minds?
posted on 2/6/20
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posted on 2/6/20
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 5 minutes ago
I wonder what family unit Chauvin grew up in that contributed to him becoming a murdering racist
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Just for talk sake, did he kill for skin colour or that cop power trip thing?
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Would rather explore the influence of his parental upbringing in him becoming a racist and murderer.
Children aren't born racists or bigots
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Cheers for the brief.
Do you know he was racist or just a cop power trip thug?
His colleagues were not all white, so were they racist bigots too?
Good luck exploring his parental upbringing though.
Winter nights must fly in!
I would just call it bad cop got justice and we all move on together, but that is just what Floyd's family want, and not what you and guys here seek, so fill your boots.
posted on 2/6/20
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 #worldpeace (U1661)
posted 8 minutes ago
It's a lack of father figures in the black community which contributes to their lack of education, high violent crimes rates, high murder rates in comparison to other races. Its probably the most important factor.
Black children raised in two parent households are far less likely to commit crimes or violent acts.
Yes George floyd was a criminal, but him getting killed by a police officer is an anomaly, as the stats show.
It is irrelevant in the discussion of improving black childrens education and future prospects.
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Wow this is shockingly racist and the reason people are protesting. Generalisation of black people as lacking father figures. Wtf.
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Are you a bit slow? There are facts and figures which highlight this.
67 percent of black children, are born into single parent families.
Compared to 24 percent of white children.
Grow up.
https://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/107-children-in-single-parent-families-by-race#detailed/1/any/false/37,871,870,573,869,36,868,867,133,38/10,11,9,12,1,185,13/432,431
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I'd like to know how this data has been gathered. I will read up. Do they conduct surveys for every new born or is it based on married couples? These days a high proportion of couples don't even get married before having kids..
posted on 2/6/20
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 12 minutes ago
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posted 5 minutes ago
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posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 3 minutes ago
Has anyone come out with some practical steps to solve this, because protesting and rioting isn't going to solve anything itself.
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As Denzel Washington said. Stop blaming the system, it starts at home, how you raise your kids, the father figure they have.
He got slammed for saying that.
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Not surprised, it’s retaaaarded.
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Of course. A lot of people nowadays feel personal accountability shouldn't exist.
Much easier to blame someone else for own, or your childrens shortcomings.
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Yeah, it’s absolutely the father of George Lloyd’s fault that his son was murdered in the streets in broad daylight.
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It's a lack of father figures in the black community which contributes to their lack of education, high violent crimes rates, high murder rates in comparison to other races. Its probably the most important factor.
Black children raised in two parent households are far less likely to commit crimes or violent acts.
Yes George floyd was a criminal, but him getting killed by a police officer is an anomaly, as the stats show.
It is irrelevant in the discussion of improving black childrens education and future prospects.
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Can you share which stats you’re referring to? Genuinely intrigued as to which studies you’re looking at as it clearly differs from the ones I’ve seen.
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I have read multiple studies on this.
You have read studies stating children from single parent households on average do better in life e.g. education, crime etc.
Can you lino me to this study?
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I was talking about you saying him being killed by a police officer being an anomaly, I asked before in this thread as well about the same thing as you mention it in the OP. I’m interested in the study about black people not being disproportionately killed by police officers.
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There are links in the OP, feel free to read them.
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Yep I did. Neither of those correlate to the stats over the past five years (given when they were written, that’s not surprising though!). I’ve only read one properly but I think you need to check the datasets they used...
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comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 10 minutes ago
As are poor education systems that aren’t honest about domestic history.
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This is a good point as well. Though I understand why in the UK they’re particularly apprehensive about teaching about certain eras of British history.
Not so much as to whitewash, but also to stop people glorifying and weaponising the British Empire. It meets their political and social needs to avoid it.
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Completely agree, which is why it’ll be another sticking plaster until the next time.
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It’s a difficult one to approach, to be fair. The British Empire is a contentious subject even among historians, and then when you have consider political bias, how does an education system go about teaching it to young minds?
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When Scots, Irish, Welsh and English all took part in empire building and live off it's rewards, how do we talk to the kids?
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Candice Owens is an absolute goddess and incredibly intelligent. Listen to her. She gets it.
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comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 #worldpeace (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 #worldpeace (U1661)
posted 8 minutes ago
It's a lack of father figures in the black community which contributes to their lack of education, high violent crimes rates, high murder rates in comparison to other races. Its probably the most important factor.
Black children raised in two parent households are far less likely to commit crimes or violent acts.
Yes George floyd was a criminal, but him getting killed by a police officer is an anomaly, as the stats show.
It is irrelevant in the discussion of improving black childrens education and future prospects.
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Wow this is shockingly racist and the reason people are protesting. Generalisation of black people as lacking father figures. Wtf.
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Are you a bit slow? There are facts and figures which highlight this.
67 percent of black children, are born into single parent families.
Compared to 24 percent of white children.
Grow up.
https://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/107-children-in-single-parent-families-by-race#detailed/1/any/false/37,871,870,573,869,36,868,867,133,38/10,11,9,12,1,185,13/432,431
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I'd like to know how this data has been gathered. I will read up. Do they conduct surveys for every new born or is it based on married couples? These days a high proportion of couples don't even get married before having kids..
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Stats are a bigger when they rip your world viiew up.
posted on 3/6/20
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 10 minutes ago
As are poor education systems that aren’t honest about domestic history.
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This is a good point as well. Though I understand why in the UK they’re particularly apprehensive about teaching about certain eras of British history.
Not so much as to whitewash, but also to stop people glorifying and weaponising the British Empire. It meets their political and social needs to avoid it.
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Completely agree, which is why it’ll be another sticking plaster until the next time.
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It’s a difficult one to approach, to be fair. The British Empire is a contentious subject even among historians, and then when you have consider political bias, how does an education system go about teaching it to young minds?
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When Scots, Irish, Welsh and English all took part in empire building and live off it's rewards, how do we talk to the kids?
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Is there a point here?
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 #worldpeace (U1661)
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It is exactly the reason black people go to job interviews and get rejected in favour of whites. Because someone carries this sort of negative prejudice and stereotype about blacks being worse than whites. Shocking.
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That is racist against whites panels and emoyees.
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Wtf?
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You just said white people carry racism into interview panels, thus excluding candidates based on skin tone alone....that a big WTF, don't ya,think.
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I didn't say whites. I said "people" carry racial bias. You know it hence why you immediately interpreted it as an attack on whites. Typical closet racist.
posted on 3/6/20
comment by Poolmyfinger - Truth Teller - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 5 minutes ago
100% agree with Ron.
Let's see 246 comments and I am going to go on a limb here and take a guess how often Ron was insulted. It's the leftist playbook.
Anyway, police aren't going out of their way to murder blacks. If they were, cops would be going one by one.
Here are the issue(s). Gang culture, fatherless homes, no respect for authority, and voting in Democrats. That last one is a big one because they only care about African-Americans during election years.
Also, notice that groups like BLM only care when it's a white officer - or a white person - who kills a black person? Yet, go to Chicago where there's always a record number of black-on-black crime. BLM says nothing about it.
But nobody wants to talk about that. Instead it's easier to "blame whitey".
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Good luck my man.....time for bed here, but fight the good fight.
posted on 3/6/20
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 #worldpeace (U1661)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by {honestlivpool~five~times} 👽 🐎 #worldpeace (U1661)
posted 8 minutes ago
It's a lack of father figures in the black community which contributes to their lack of education, high violent crimes rates, high murder rates in comparison to other races. Its probably the most important factor.
Black children raised in two parent households are far less likely to commit crimes or violent acts.
Yes George floyd was a criminal, but him getting killed by a police officer is an anomaly, as the stats show.
It is irrelevant in the discussion of improving black childrens education and future prospects.
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Wow this is shockingly racist and the reason people are protesting. Generalisation of black people as lacking father figures. Wtf.
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Are you a bit slow? There are facts and figures which highlight this.
67 percent of black children, are born into single parent families.
Compared to 24 percent of white children.
Grow up.
https://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/107-children-in-single-parent-families-by-race#detailed/1/any/false/37,871,870,573,869,36,868,867,133,38/10,11,9,12,1,185,13/432,431
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I'd like to know how this data has been gathered. I will read up. Do they conduct surveys for every new born or is it based on married couples? These days a high proportion of couples don't even get married before having kids..
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Stats are a bigger when they rip your world viiew up.
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Well you can interpret it how you like. Racist. My comment clearly makes a good point. Not being married doesn't necessarily mean being a single parent.
posted on 3/6/20
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 5 minutes ago
I wonder what family unit Chauvin grew up in that contributed to him becoming a murdering racist
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Just for talk sake, did he kill for skin colour or that cop power trip thing?
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Would rather explore the influence of his parental upbringing in him becoming a racist and murderer.
Children aren't born racists or bigots
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Cheers for the brief.
Do you know he was racist or just a cop power trip thug?
His colleagues were not all white, so were they racist bigots too?
Good luck exploring his parental upbringing though.
Winter nights must fly in!
I would just call it bad cop got justice and we all move on together, but that is just what Floyd's family want, and not what you and guys here seek, so fill your boots.
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You've no idea what I want 😂
posted on 3/6/20
comment by Poolmyfinger - Truth Teller - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 22 seconds ago
Candice Owens is an absolute goddess and incredibly intelligent. Listen to her. She gets it.
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Don;t know what's so funny. I'd listen to her than your spokeswoman, Rachel Madcow.
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Yeah I don't know who that Is mate, I do know who candace owens is though
posted on 3/6/20
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 10 minutes ago
As are poor education systems that aren’t honest about domestic history.
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This is a good point as well. Though I understand why in the UK they’re particularly apprehensive about teaching about certain eras of British history.
Not so much as to whitewash, but also to stop people glorifying and weaponising the British Empire. It meets their political and social needs to avoid it.
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Completely agree, which is why it’ll be another sticking plaster until the next time.
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It’s a difficult one to approach, to be fair. The British Empire is a contentious subject even among historians, and then when you have consider political bias, how does an education system go about teaching it to young minds?
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It’s similar to this discussion though, it’s a change in mindset that’s needed about why teach it. This thread alone is some proof of why it’s needed though! Anything to make people think even slightly deeper is a good thing.
posted on 3/6/20
And for any blaming blacks or black culture for police treatment, you should read what I posted earlier. I will post it again below. There is a direct link between poverty and crime. Black were left behind as a result of slavery and discrimination that occurred for years. In fact it was only 60 years ago that segregation became unlawful. What posted earlier.
Every single day blacks literally have to think about/worry about what an average white person doesn't think/know exists.
Like going to a job interview... "Are they going to reject the application due to being black?" "What if the interviewer is racist?"
Going into a shop with your mates.. "they'll probably feel threatened, so some of you should probably wait outside"
Works hard and buys yourself a brand expensive car.. "he probably made money from drugs, otherwise how could he afford the car?"
Gets stopped by police... "Oh sh..t, is this cop going to feel threatened and shot+kill?"
This was my response to Ron last night.
I'm not sure black are hating on whites. They're merely fighting for equal footing in society. Any person that feels attacked should imagine it this way... Imagine you're competing in a 100m race and you're placed to start 3 seconds behind your competitors every single time.. just like your parents and grandparents were. I'm sure you'd get fed up eventually and start protesting.
That's literally how it has been for blacks. Due to effects of slavery, they started off way behind others with no wealth (no land, no credit, no savings, etc.). It's pretty difficult to start off on nothing compared to someone who's had the chance/freedom/ability to have these. So basically very little/no chance of winning. When you finally think you've got it, you've got a chance, and go for a job interview, the employer stereotypes and imagines that you're probably second place to your white competitor (due to your history and background - you didn't attend the best school, no work experience, etc). You lose again.
And then you try to go to school, but then it's critically underfunded. Can't afford books, barely have enough teachers to teach and leave school with nothing. You become and adult and try to get a job feed your family. You're on minimum wage or below and can't feed your family. You start to dabble into illegal practices, crime and drugs. You become part of a gang to fight people like yourself over control of drugs, money and territory. "Black on black crime". No such thing. It's just crime. Crime driven by poverty. No one calls white on white crime..
Some get fortunate and escape through arts (music, film and sports).
posted on 3/6/20
Oh I don’t disagree with that, my concern is more to do with having the correct mechanisms for which it can be taught in the correct manner.
Interestingly I think that right now is possibly the worst time to introduce it into the education system. Like I mentioned above about the dangers of it, having the political division we do now makes it even more difficult to achieve.
Might sound odd when I agree that more people need educating on it, but I’m sure you get the point.
posted on 3/6/20
Im curious joe as to what problems you anticipate from teaching British history
posted on 3/6/20
Yeah, there’s absolutely no chance of it happening any time soon and this certainly isn’t the government that would do it anyway!
I do find it slightly ironic when the posters that go on about personal responsibility of individual actions are the ones that seemingly haven't taken any personal responsibility themselves to try and learn more about the actual root causes that drive those actions in the first place.
posted on 3/6/20
Consider the issues we’re having right now regarding Brexit, and the political division it’s caused. This is happening in a country that is largely uneducated on the British Empire. I think it’d exasperate the issue, as it’s a pretty divisive issue among historians, let alone the uneducated masses.
posted on 3/6/20
melts, yeah and it’s a good thing they won’t given how they’d try and spin it.
I don’t think they want to learn or understand. They want to seek out something that confirms an already entrenched position.
posted on 3/6/20
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
Consider the issues we’re having right now regarding Brexit, and the political division it’s caused. This is happening in a country that is largely uneducated on the British Empire. I think it’d exasperate the issue, as it’s a pretty divisive issue among historians, let alone the uneducated masses.
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At least keep the lines straight.
Do people actually talk to you?
posted on 3/6/20
It is exactly that and then accuse others of doing similar to try and detract from their own shortcomings. Bluebells is a prime example in this thread!
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