has he even started 8 games?
he joined to play under an exciting attacking team with a postive manager and he's found himself with a moany cant of a dinosaur who is notorious for cutting off talented players who go on to be stars in the future.
Ndombele has had issues with annoying managers well before he joined Spurs.
Maybe, just maybe José is doing you guys a favour.
comment by Phendombele (U20037)
posted 3 seconds ago
has he even started 8 games?
he joined to play under an exciting attacking team with a postive manager and he's found himself with a moany cant of a dinosaur who is notorious for cutting off talented players who go on to be stars in the future.
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Oh yeah I forgot how much loser Poch got the best of him LOL. Do you remember last pre season when there reports Lard a$$ could not hack the training and got injured after he joined?
He frauded everyone(but me) by a couple of good minutes here and there but clearly does not have the work ethnic.
So you have Poch the "messier" who could not get the punter to play more than 90 mins and finally a proven winner who has seen through him. In the bin. Next!
Ndombele has had issues with annoying managers well before he joined Spurs.
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did he?
comment by Phendombele (U20037)
posted 12 seconds ago
Ndombele has had issues with annoying managers well before he joined Spurs.
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did he?
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The raw talent has always been there but the focus has not and it is remarkable to think that as recently as the 2015-16 season Ndombele was fighting for recognition in the Amiens reserve team in the Championnat National 3, which is French football’s fifth tier.
It had all gone wrong for him at Guingamp, where he was released as a 17-year-old in 2014 – the club did not offer him a professional contract amid concerns over his commitment. Was he prepared to make the necessary sacrifices?
Talk to anybody in France about Ndombele and one word recurs: nonchalance. It is not meant as a compliment and takes in the impression that he has not always been the most hard-working player. Perhaps it is because his talent is so big that everything comes easily to him.
“He was nonchalant,” Sullivan Martinet, his youth team captain at Guingamp, told Ouest France. “He was so strong that we were expecting more from him, more consistency. He didn’t try maybe as much. He didn’t give the impression of always being 100%. With hindsight, what harmed him was his behaviour off the pitch. We were less talented but we wanted it more than him.”
Ndombele had another problem at Guingamp – a propensity to be slightly overweight – and it was cited among the reasons for the refusal to give him a senior deal. “People told me he could put on weight,” said Philippe Le Maire, who was on the club’s youth staff. “To put it in simple terms – he built his bottom half before the top.”
——
I fully believe he has loads of talent and I understand why Spurs fans are so keen for it to work. But there is every chance that Jose is right on this one. There are plenty of talented players who do have the right attitude out there.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
Poch the "messier"
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Thank you spelling police. Messiah! LOL
not saying he does have the work ethic, none of us know if he does because we are not there in training. I dont disagree that we should sell him now because him not getting any minutes every game is just a waste of time, like you say can get important funds for our defence and centre midfield.
no doubting for me he will be one of the best midfielders in Europe elsewhere though, we shall see. Maybe he is carrying a career defining knock which we dont know about.
there were reports from spurs journalists saying Jose was happy with Ndombele, how he was working etc. So i am under no illusions he is doing his standard thing of picking out one clearly talented player from the squad and trying to show some kind of message. i wouldnt mind if our midfield was actually good.
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Phendombele (U20037)
posted 12 seconds ago
Ndombele has had issues with annoying managers well before he joined Spurs.
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did he?
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The raw talent has always been there but the focus has not and it is remarkable to think that as recently as the 2015-16 season Ndombele was fighting for recognition in the Amiens reserve team in the Championnat National 3, which is French football’s fifth tier.
It had all gone wrong for him at Guingamp, where he was released as a 17-year-old in 2014 – the club did not offer him a professional contract amid concerns over his commitment. Was he prepared to make the necessary sacrifices?
Talk to anybody in France about Ndombele and one word recurs: nonchalance. It is not meant as a compliment and takes in the impression that he has not always been the most hard-working player. Perhaps it is because his talent is so big that everything comes easily to him.
“He was nonchalant,” Sullivan Martinet, his youth team captain at Guingamp, told Ouest France. “He was so strong that we were expecting more from him, more consistency. He didn’t try maybe as much. He didn’t give the impression of always being 100%. With hindsight, what harmed him was his behaviour off the pitch. We were less talented but we wanted it more than him.”
Ndombele had another problem at Guingamp – a propensity to be slightly overweight – and it was cited among the reasons for the refusal to give him a senior deal. “People told me he could put on weight,” said Philippe Le Maire, who was on the club’s youth staff. “To put it in simple terms – he built his bottom half before the top.”
——
I fully believe he has loads of talent and I understand why Spurs fans are so keen for it to work. But there is every chance that Jose is right on this one. There are plenty of talented players who do have the right attitude out there.
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Excellent article. Bravo sir but I wish some posters could have done their own research instead of deluding themselves into thinking Tanguy was THE guy LOL.
You have put alot of eggs on the faces of posters. Please inject into my veins. Especially dolly LOL
comment by Phendombele (U20037)
posted 1 minute ago
not saying he does have the work ethic, none of us know if he does because we are not there in training. I dont disagree that we should sell him now because him not getting any minutes every game is just a waste of time, like you say can get important funds for our defence and centre midfield.
no doubting for me he will be one of the best midfielders in Europe elsewhere though, we shall see. Maybe he is carrying a career defining knock which we dont know about.
there were reports from spurs journalists saying Jose was happy with Ndombele, how he was working etc. So i am under no illusions he is doing his standard thing of picking out one clearly talented player from the squad and trying to show some kind of message. i wouldnt mind if our midfield was actually good.
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What a load of waffle. You are like a rabbit caught in the head lights LOL
We can all see he has the talent, but im backing Jose with this one.
His attitude and fitness has been appalling and his performance away at Burnley was nothing short of disgraceful.
For 60 odd million i would like to think attitude and effort would be a given.
comment by sandrobeast (U22405)
posted 16 minutes ago
We can all see he has the talent, but im backing Jose with this one.
His attitude and fitness has been appalling and his performance away at Burnley was nothing short of disgraceful.
For 60 odd million i would like to think attitude and effort would be a given.
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Exactly.
comment by sandrobeast (U22405)
posted 16 minutes ago
We can all see he has the talent, but im backing Jose with this one.
His attitude and fitness has been appalling and his performance away at Burnley was nothing short of disgraceful.
For 60 odd million i would like to think attitude and effort would be a given.
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So why buy him? What we’re the scouts doing? Did nobody look at him before we signed him?
All seems so very Spursy and unnecessary.
Exactly Phenom. See like NOBODY at Spurs is ITK.
comment by Phendombele (U20037)
posted 1 minute ago
what scouts
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Not the scouts mate you just need to get a new manager
For the money we paid we could have got Savic form Lazio, who has ability but also works hard
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Phendombele (U20037)
posted 1 minute ago
what scouts
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Not the scouts mate you just need to get a new manager
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We know that.
Jose is too arrogant for his own good. You’re telling me ndombele wasn’t good enough to get some minutes from those two dire performances?
comment by NaijaSpur (U3641)
posted 22 seconds ago
Jose is too arrogant for his own good. You’re telling me ndombele wasn’t good enough to get some minutes from those two dire performances?
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You have to earn his trust. He trusts Lamela, Winks and Stevie B hence why they came on.
comment by Automatic For The People #BLM (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Phendombele (U20037)
posted 1 minute ago
what scouts
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Not the scouts mate you just need to get a new manager
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We know that.
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Rubbish.
comment by sandrobeast (U22405)
posted 6 minutes ago
For the money we paid we could have got Savic form Lazio, who has ability but also works hard
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was always rumours of attitude problems around him too. he too is more of an attacking CM and working hard isnt what hes known for. 90mill was being touted for him too
Still hoping we get Holberg. Our finances are shot. Last year of his contract. By all reports his attitude is spot on and he is captain of the Saints too.
comment by LukaBrasi King Jose IN (U22178)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People #BLM (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Phendombele (U20037)
posted 1 minute ago
what scouts
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Not the scouts mate you just need to get a new manager
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We know that.
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Rubbish.
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LOL
comment by LukaBrasi King Jose IN (U22178)
posted 5 minutes ago
Still hoping we get Holberg. Our finances are shot. Last year of his contract. By all reports his attitude is spot on and he is captain of the Saints too.
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Got stripped of his captaincy after making it clear that he wanted to find a future elsewhere, apparently.
I think it's interesting. Mourinho obviously has pedigree, though that is on a decline. If I was a spurs fan I'd rather have seen someone who's stock in the game is rising, like Nagelsmann at Leipzig. Maybe things would be different under a manager like that?
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posted on 24/6/20
has he even started 8 games?
he joined to play under an exciting attacking team with a postive manager and he's found himself with a moany cant of a dinosaur who is notorious for cutting off talented players who go on to be stars in the future.
posted on 24/6/20
Ndombele has had issues with annoying managers well before he joined Spurs.
Maybe, just maybe José is doing you guys a favour.
posted on 24/6/20
comment by Phendombele (U20037)
posted 3 seconds ago
has he even started 8 games?
he joined to play under an exciting attacking team with a postive manager and he's found himself with a moany cant of a dinosaur who is notorious for cutting off talented players who go on to be stars in the future.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh yeah I forgot how much loser Poch got the best of him LOL. Do you remember last pre season when there reports Lard a$$ could not hack the training and got injured after he joined?
He frauded everyone(but me) by a couple of good minutes here and there but clearly does not have the work ethnic.
So you have Poch the "messier" who could not get the punter to play more than 90 mins and finally a proven winner who has seen through him. In the bin. Next!
posted on 24/6/20
Poch the "messier"
posted on 24/6/20
Ndombele has had issues with annoying managers well before he joined Spurs.
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did he?
posted on 24/6/20
comment by Phendombele (U20037)
posted 12 seconds ago
Ndombele has had issues with annoying managers well before he joined Spurs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
did he?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The raw talent has always been there but the focus has not and it is remarkable to think that as recently as the 2015-16 season Ndombele was fighting for recognition in the Amiens reserve team in the Championnat National 3, which is French football’s fifth tier.
It had all gone wrong for him at Guingamp, where he was released as a 17-year-old in 2014 – the club did not offer him a professional contract amid concerns over his commitment. Was he prepared to make the necessary sacrifices?
Talk to anybody in France about Ndombele and one word recurs: nonchalance. It is not meant as a compliment and takes in the impression that he has not always been the most hard-working player. Perhaps it is because his talent is so big that everything comes easily to him.
“He was nonchalant,” Sullivan Martinet, his youth team captain at Guingamp, told Ouest France. “He was so strong that we were expecting more from him, more consistency. He didn’t try maybe as much. He didn’t give the impression of always being 100%. With hindsight, what harmed him was his behaviour off the pitch. We were less talented but we wanted it more than him.”
Ndombele had another problem at Guingamp – a propensity to be slightly overweight – and it was cited among the reasons for the refusal to give him a senior deal. “People told me he could put on weight,” said Philippe Le Maire, who was on the club’s youth staff. “To put it in simple terms – he built his bottom half before the top.”
——
I fully believe he has loads of talent and I understand why Spurs fans are so keen for it to work. But there is every chance that Jose is right on this one. There are plenty of talented players who do have the right attitude out there.
posted on 24/6/20
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
Poch the "messier"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you spelling police. Messiah! LOL
posted on 24/6/20
not saying he does have the work ethic, none of us know if he does because we are not there in training. I dont disagree that we should sell him now because him not getting any minutes every game is just a waste of time, like you say can get important funds for our defence and centre midfield.
no doubting for me he will be one of the best midfielders in Europe elsewhere though, we shall see. Maybe he is carrying a career defining knock which we dont know about.
there were reports from spurs journalists saying Jose was happy with Ndombele, how he was working etc. So i am under no illusions he is doing his standard thing of picking out one clearly talented player from the squad and trying to show some kind of message. i wouldnt mind if our midfield was actually good.
posted on 24/6/20
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Phendombele (U20037)
posted 12 seconds ago
Ndombele has had issues with annoying managers well before he joined Spurs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
did he?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The raw talent has always been there but the focus has not and it is remarkable to think that as recently as the 2015-16 season Ndombele was fighting for recognition in the Amiens reserve team in the Championnat National 3, which is French football’s fifth tier.
It had all gone wrong for him at Guingamp, where he was released as a 17-year-old in 2014 – the club did not offer him a professional contract amid concerns over his commitment. Was he prepared to make the necessary sacrifices?
Talk to anybody in France about Ndombele and one word recurs: nonchalance. It is not meant as a compliment and takes in the impression that he has not always been the most hard-working player. Perhaps it is because his talent is so big that everything comes easily to him.
“He was nonchalant,” Sullivan Martinet, his youth team captain at Guingamp, told Ouest France. “He was so strong that we were expecting more from him, more consistency. He didn’t try maybe as much. He didn’t give the impression of always being 100%. With hindsight, what harmed him was his behaviour off the pitch. We were less talented but we wanted it more than him.”
Ndombele had another problem at Guingamp – a propensity to be slightly overweight – and it was cited among the reasons for the refusal to give him a senior deal. “People told me he could put on weight,” said Philippe Le Maire, who was on the club’s youth staff. “To put it in simple terms – he built his bottom half before the top.”
——
I fully believe he has loads of talent and I understand why Spurs fans are so keen for it to work. But there is every chance that Jose is right on this one. There are plenty of talented players who do have the right attitude out there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Excellent article. Bravo sir but I wish some posters could have done their own research instead of deluding themselves into thinking Tanguy was THE guy LOL.
You have put alot of eggs on the faces of posters. Please inject into my veins. Especially dolly LOL
posted on 24/6/20
comment by Phendombele (U20037)
posted 1 minute ago
not saying he does have the work ethic, none of us know if he does because we are not there in training. I dont disagree that we should sell him now because him not getting any minutes every game is just a waste of time, like you say can get important funds for our defence and centre midfield.
no doubting for me he will be one of the best midfielders in Europe elsewhere though, we shall see. Maybe he is carrying a career defining knock which we dont know about.
there were reports from spurs journalists saying Jose was happy with Ndombele, how he was working etc. So i am under no illusions he is doing his standard thing of picking out one clearly talented player from the squad and trying to show some kind of message. i wouldnt mind if our midfield was actually good.
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What a load of waffle. You are like a rabbit caught in the head lights LOL
posted on 24/6/20
We can all see he has the talent, but im backing Jose with this one.
His attitude and fitness has been appalling and his performance away at Burnley was nothing short of disgraceful.
For 60 odd million i would like to think attitude and effort would be a given.
posted on 24/6/20
comment by sandrobeast (U22405)
posted 16 minutes ago
We can all see he has the talent, but im backing Jose with this one.
His attitude and fitness has been appalling and his performance away at Burnley was nothing short of disgraceful.
For 60 odd million i would like to think attitude and effort would be a given.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly.
posted on 24/6/20
comment by sandrobeast (U22405)
posted 16 minutes ago
We can all see he has the talent, but im backing Jose with this one.
His attitude and fitness has been appalling and his performance away at Burnley was nothing short of disgraceful.
For 60 odd million i would like to think attitude and effort would be a given.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why buy him? What we’re the scouts doing? Did nobody look at him before we signed him?
All seems so very Spursy and unnecessary.
posted on 24/6/20
what scouts
posted on 24/6/20
Exactly Phenom. See like NOBODY at Spurs is ITK.
posted on 24/6/20
comment by Phendombele (U20037)
posted 1 minute ago
what scouts
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Not the scouts mate you just need to get a new manager
posted on 24/6/20
For the money we paid we could have got Savic form Lazio, who has ability but also works hard
posted on 24/6/20
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Phendombele (U20037)
posted 1 minute ago
what scouts
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Not the scouts mate you just need to get a new manager
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We know that.
posted on 24/6/20
Jose is too arrogant for his own good. You’re telling me ndombele wasn’t good enough to get some minutes from those two dire performances?
posted on 24/6/20
comment by NaijaSpur (U3641)
posted 22 seconds ago
Jose is too arrogant for his own good. You’re telling me ndombele wasn’t good enough to get some minutes from those two dire performances?
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You have to earn his trust. He trusts Lamela, Winks and Stevie B hence why they came on.
posted on 24/6/20
comment by Automatic For The People #BLM (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Phendombele (U20037)
posted 1 minute ago
what scouts
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Not the scouts mate you just need to get a new manager
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We know that.
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Rubbish.
posted on 24/6/20
comment by sandrobeast (U22405)
posted 6 minutes ago
For the money we paid we could have got Savic form Lazio, who has ability but also works hard
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was always rumours of attitude problems around him too. he too is more of an attacking CM and working hard isnt what hes known for. 90mill was being touted for him too
posted on 24/6/20
Still hoping we get Holberg. Our finances are shot. Last year of his contract. By all reports his attitude is spot on and he is captain of the Saints too.
posted on 24/6/20
comment by LukaBrasi King Jose IN (U22178)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People #BLM (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Phendombele (U20037)
posted 1 minute ago
what scouts
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Not the scouts mate you just need to get a new manager
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We know that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Rubbish.
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LOL
posted on 24/6/20
comment by LukaBrasi King Jose IN (U22178)
posted 5 minutes ago
Still hoping we get Holberg. Our finances are shot. Last year of his contract. By all reports his attitude is spot on and he is captain of the Saints too.
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Got stripped of his captaincy after making it clear that he wanted to find a future elsewhere, apparently.
I think it's interesting. Mourinho obviously has pedigree, though that is on a decline. If I was a spurs fan I'd rather have seen someone who's stock in the game is rising, like Nagelsmann at Leipzig. Maybe things would be different under a manager like that?
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