He's really improved, I think a spell on the side lines and a good pre season did him good.
Now we know what our best combination is in midfield, we should start searching the market for others who can play those roles.
We seriously need quality back up.
Not a fan... But his playing well ATM...
It won't last though... we've seen this before with him... seems to go through phases more often than most.
Personally, I think McT should be getting a look in here... His more combative which I like...
What a pass for the third goal.
He’s always had this in him as he showed at Chelsea and the very beginning of his United career, the question is whether he can keep it up which he probably can’t. Good to see though and in Fred and McTominay we have at least got some cover if not like for like.
comment by Memphis_bleek #TeamOle (U20611)
posted 57 seconds ago
Not a fan... But his playing well ATM...
It won't last though... we've seen this before with him... seems to go through phases more often than most.
Personally, I think McT should be getting a look in here... His more combative which I like...
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Don’t agree about mctominay. Good squad player and good to come on against tired legs but we don’t need someone sprinting about getting out of position. Matic holds his position perfectly. How often do you see space for the opposition where he should be?
he is much, much more careful with the ball than either fred or mctominay, which is essential when he has two midfielders alongside/in front of him who are happier to take risks.
i haven't really seen any mobility problems since he came back, but i doubt he can keep it up for 40-50 games a season.
Doing a decent job but like someone said hes played for us in bursts like this, we defo need a upgrade in that position, hes very comfortable as in anyone when were so much on top but when teams are pressuring us im not confident in him especiay against mobile players
comment by MUFCdan (U1463)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Memphis_bleek #TeamOle (U20611)
posted 57 seconds ago
Not a fan... But his playing well ATM...
It won't last though... we've seen this before with him... seems to go through phases more often than most.
Personally, I think McT should be getting a look in here... His more combative which I like...
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Don’t agree about mctominay. Good squad player and good to come on against tired legs but we don’t need someone sprinting about getting out of position. Matic holds his position perfectly. How often do you see space for the opposition where he should be?
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I'd argue that McT has only played that way because that's how he was asked to. Playing in a two with Fred provided cover for him to make more advanced runs... He was essentially filling the role Pogba has in the last two league games.
Playing along side Pogba he'll know he has to hold his position and fill the Matic/Fred role. I don't think he will have difficulty doing this (or learning to do this)...
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Mctominay doesn’t have the ball skills to be a starter long term. We need to buy better and a replacement. Only pogba and Bruno are the standard we need atm
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Doesnt have to be as good as them, any player that has quality in front and behind him will look good, mct was one of our most consistent players before the break and had shown signs of big improvment playing with fred, matic, pereira etc, give him a chance with 2 wc midfielders and see how he goes?
I like McTominay but he hasn’t shown he has the skill set to be a DM, he’s much more of a B2B (same goes for Fred). We’ve been crying out for a specialised DM for so long and while Matic would have been very good in his prime we got him too late.
Mct is young enough to develop that side with bruno and pogba, with these 2 we will have much more of the ball so naturally his defensive duties will be less aswell
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 3 minutes ago
Mctominay doesn’t have the ball skills to be a starter long term. We need to buy better and a replacement. Only pogba and Bruno are the standard we need atm
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Doesnt have to be as good as them, any player that has quality in front and behind him will look good, mct was one of our most consistent players before the break and had shown signs of big improvment playing with fred, matic, pereira etc, give him a chance with 2 wc midfielders and see how he goes?
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McTominay isn’t anything special, he would be a 5th choice midfielder for any other top club. I get it he’s from the academy and he works hard but I just don’t see him picking out passes like Matic did today. Don’t understand why some fans don’t rate Matic, after Bruno, he’s been consistently the best player since January and one of the reasons why we’ve improved so much defensively.
We do need a replacement/upgrade on Matic. He hasn't got much left in him and he's had burst of form before. If we're playing Bruno and Pogba, he's a better for than McTominay and Fred.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 24 minutes ago
He’s always had this in him as he showed at Chelsea and the very beginning of his United career, the question is whether he can keep it up which he probably can’t. Good to see though and in Fred and McTominay we have at least got some cover if not like for like.
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This.
while we have bruno and pogba, which will hopefully mean an emphasis in ball possesion, someone like McT should be learning the defensive midfield trade for when Matic goes. Otherwise we will need a specialist DM brought in or promoted
McTominay isn’t anything special, he would be a 5th choice midfielder for any other top club. I get it he’s from the academy and he works hard but I just don’t see him picking out passes like Matic did today. Don’t understand why some fans don’t rate Matic, after Bruno, he’s been consistently the best player since January and one of the reasons why we’ve improved so much defensively.
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Neither is matic, i dont get why people think all 11 have to be world beaters, weve seen matics ceiling, mct was playing his best when we were playing our worst earlier this year i actually think thats more impressive, others were missing and the guy was constantly decent in a poor performing team
Any ready made replacements for matic out there? I always thought that William carvalho who Leicester just signed looked decent
Carvalho was all the rage 5 years ago, no idea how hes developed, partey is pretty decent
Looks like he’s going to Arsenal strangely
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 5 minutes ago
McTominay isn’t anything special, he would be a 5th choice midfielder for any other top club. I get it he’s from the academy and he works hard but I just don’t see him picking out passes like Matic did today. Don’t understand why some fans don’t rate Matic, after Bruno, he’s been consistently the best player since January and one of the reasons why we’ve improved so much defensively.
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Neither is matic, i dont get why people think all 11 have to be world beaters, weve seen matics ceiling, mct was playing his best when we were playing our worst earlier this year i actually think thats more impressive, others were missing and the guy was constantly decent in a poor performing team
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Can you tell me exactly what McT is good at though? Matic has far better reading of the game defensively, good eye for a pass, dribbling and moving the ball forward. Yes he’s had spells where he blows hot and cold but he was overplayed, and at that age it will affect his performance, since having some time out, he’s been playing really well, and showing the quality he did when playing for Chelsea in his first few seasons.
comment by That's Dalot (U22095)
posted 8 minutes ago
while we have bruno and pogba, which will hopefully mean an emphasis in ball possesion, someone like McT should be learning the defensive midfield trade for when Matic goes. Otherwise we will need a specialist DM brought in or promoted
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It’s not that simple to learn, because McTominay lacks the technical quality to do what Matic does with the ball.
Eduardo Camavinga, Denis Zakaria
Ndidi but he would cost alot
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 22 minutes ago
We need to spend billions on every position, only I can see that because I’m a rich arab prince who has loads of cash and no common sense. It’s the only way. I won’t be happy unless our front three is mbappe messi and Ronaldo. And we need to get rid of ole, because his name isn’t cool enough to fit with my fifa ultimate team view of the world.
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Indeed uww. Indeed.
Don’t understand why some fans don’t rate Matic
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Because we have seen him revert to being poor after a spurt of good games before.
He dawdles on the ball to often at times.
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posted on 30/6/20
He's really improved, I think a spell on the side lines and a good pre season did him good.
Now we know what our best combination is in midfield, we should start searching the market for others who can play those roles.
We seriously need quality back up.
posted on 30/6/20
Not a fan... But his playing well ATM...
It won't last though... we've seen this before with him... seems to go through phases more often than most.
Personally, I think McT should be getting a look in here... His more combative which I like...
posted on 30/6/20
What a pass for the third goal.
posted on 30/6/20
He’s always had this in him as he showed at Chelsea and the very beginning of his United career, the question is whether he can keep it up which he probably can’t. Good to see though and in Fred and McTominay we have at least got some cover if not like for like.
posted on 30/6/20
comment by Memphis_bleek #TeamOle (U20611)
posted 57 seconds ago
Not a fan... But his playing well ATM...
It won't last though... we've seen this before with him... seems to go through phases more often than most.
Personally, I think McT should be getting a look in here... His more combative which I like...
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Don’t agree about mctominay. Good squad player and good to come on against tired legs but we don’t need someone sprinting about getting out of position. Matic holds his position perfectly. How often do you see space for the opposition where he should be?
posted on 30/6/20
he is much, much more careful with the ball than either fred or mctominay, which is essential when he has two midfielders alongside/in front of him who are happier to take risks.
i haven't really seen any mobility problems since he came back, but i doubt he can keep it up for 40-50 games a season.
posted on 30/6/20
Doing a decent job but like someone said hes played for us in bursts like this, we defo need a upgrade in that position, hes very comfortable as in anyone when were so much on top but when teams are pressuring us im not confident in him especiay against mobile players
posted on 30/6/20
comment by MUFCdan (U1463)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Memphis_bleek #TeamOle (U20611)
posted 57 seconds ago
Not a fan... But his playing well ATM...
It won't last though... we've seen this before with him... seems to go through phases more often than most.
Personally, I think McT should be getting a look in here... His more combative which I like...
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Don’t agree about mctominay. Good squad player and good to come on against tired legs but we don’t need someone sprinting about getting out of position. Matic holds his position perfectly. How often do you see space for the opposition where he should be?
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I'd argue that McT has only played that way because that's how he was asked to. Playing in a two with Fred provided cover for him to make more advanced runs... He was essentially filling the role Pogba has in the last two league games.
Playing along side Pogba he'll know he has to hold his position and fill the Matic/Fred role. I don't think he will have difficulty doing this (or learning to do this)...
posted on 30/6/20
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posted on 30/6/20
Mctominay doesn’t have the ball skills to be a starter long term. We need to buy better and a replacement. Only pogba and Bruno are the standard we need atm
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Doesnt have to be as good as them, any player that has quality in front and behind him will look good, mct was one of our most consistent players before the break and had shown signs of big improvment playing with fred, matic, pereira etc, give him a chance with 2 wc midfielders and see how he goes?
posted on 30/6/20
I like McTominay but he hasn’t shown he has the skill set to be a DM, he’s much more of a B2B (same goes for Fred). We’ve been crying out for a specialised DM for so long and while Matic would have been very good in his prime we got him too late.
posted on 30/6/20
Mct is young enough to develop that side with bruno and pogba, with these 2 we will have much more of the ball so naturally his defensive duties will be less aswell
posted on 30/6/20
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 3 minutes ago
Mctominay doesn’t have the ball skills to be a starter long term. We need to buy better and a replacement. Only pogba and Bruno are the standard we need atm
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Doesnt have to be as good as them, any player that has quality in front and behind him will look good, mct was one of our most consistent players before the break and had shown signs of big improvment playing with fred, matic, pereira etc, give him a chance with 2 wc midfielders and see how he goes?
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McTominay isn’t anything special, he would be a 5th choice midfielder for any other top club. I get it he’s from the academy and he works hard but I just don’t see him picking out passes like Matic did today. Don’t understand why some fans don’t rate Matic, after Bruno, he’s been consistently the best player since January and one of the reasons why we’ve improved so much defensively.
posted on 30/6/20
We do need a replacement/upgrade on Matic. He hasn't got much left in him and he's had burst of form before. If we're playing Bruno and Pogba, he's a better for than McTominay and Fred.
posted on 30/6/20
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 24 minutes ago
He’s always had this in him as he showed at Chelsea and the very beginning of his United career, the question is whether he can keep it up which he probably can’t. Good to see though and in Fred and McTominay we have at least got some cover if not like for like.
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This.
posted on 30/6/20
while we have bruno and pogba, which will hopefully mean an emphasis in ball possesion, someone like McT should be learning the defensive midfield trade for when Matic goes. Otherwise we will need a specialist DM brought in or promoted
posted on 30/6/20
McTominay isn’t anything special, he would be a 5th choice midfielder for any other top club. I get it he’s from the academy and he works hard but I just don’t see him picking out passes like Matic did today. Don’t understand why some fans don’t rate Matic, after Bruno, he’s been consistently the best player since January and one of the reasons why we’ve improved so much defensively.
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Neither is matic, i dont get why people think all 11 have to be world beaters, weve seen matics ceiling, mct was playing his best when we were playing our worst earlier this year i actually think thats more impressive, others were missing and the guy was constantly decent in a poor performing team
posted on 30/6/20
Any ready made replacements for matic out there? I always thought that William carvalho who Leicester just signed looked decent
posted on 30/6/20
Carvalho was all the rage 5 years ago, no idea how hes developed, partey is pretty decent
posted on 30/6/20
Looks like he’s going to Arsenal strangely
posted on 30/6/20
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 5 minutes ago
McTominay isn’t anything special, he would be a 5th choice midfielder for any other top club. I get it he’s from the academy and he works hard but I just don’t see him picking out passes like Matic did today. Don’t understand why some fans don’t rate Matic, after Bruno, he’s been consistently the best player since January and one of the reasons why we’ve improved so much defensively.
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Neither is matic, i dont get why people think all 11 have to be world beaters, weve seen matics ceiling, mct was playing his best when we were playing our worst earlier this year i actually think thats more impressive, others were missing and the guy was constantly decent in a poor performing team
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Can you tell me exactly what McT is good at though? Matic has far better reading of the game defensively, good eye for a pass, dribbling and moving the ball forward. Yes he’s had spells where he blows hot and cold but he was overplayed, and at that age it will affect his performance, since having some time out, he’s been playing really well, and showing the quality he did when playing for Chelsea in his first few seasons.
posted on 30/6/20
comment by That's Dalot (U22095)
posted 8 minutes ago
while we have bruno and pogba, which will hopefully mean an emphasis in ball possesion, someone like McT should be learning the defensive midfield trade for when Matic goes. Otherwise we will need a specialist DM brought in or promoted
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It’s not that simple to learn, because McTominay lacks the technical quality to do what Matic does with the ball.
posted on 30/6/20
Eduardo Camavinga, Denis Zakaria
Ndidi but he would cost alot
posted on 30/6/20
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 22 minutes ago
We need to spend billions on every position, only I can see that because I’m a rich arab prince who has loads of cash and no common sense. It’s the only way. I won’t be happy unless our front three is mbappe messi and Ronaldo. And we need to get rid of ole, because his name isn’t cool enough to fit with my fifa ultimate team view of the world.
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Indeed uww. Indeed.
posted on 30/6/20
Don’t understand why some fans don’t rate Matic
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Because we have seen him revert to being poor after a spurt of good games before.
He dawdles on the ball to often at times.
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