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posted 17 minutes ago
Starting to backfire on Hearts but as sure as God made little green apples, they will be given some considerable compensation as they have recourse again to the courts should arbitration fail to have the two sides agree.
So if they aren't content with what they are offered they will just hold the entire league to ransom by preventing the season from starting. I could be well wrong on that but it's my limited understanding as things stand now.
So, we all cough up and give them millions which each club will proportionately have to share, or
....they go back to court, delay the league start; it still costs millions but even more legal costs which again every club will have to take proportionately and then there's is the very real chance that clubs will go to the wall and even more staff made redundant while the legal process takes its course.
Not a very palatable choice either way and for those who think giving Hearts all their support to GIRU the SPFL, I'm not sure they are really considering the cost implications to their own club.
As ever etc...
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GIRU the lot of them
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comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 35 minutes ago
Thistle should never of been relegated, total disgrace that they were.
Hearts hmmm I reckon they'd of still stayed up, Ross county were in free fall
Dundee Utd don't deserve to get punished for this, just hope we can get it all sorted out asap
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Ross County managed 7 points in the final 6 games of the season - including 2 wins. Hearts had 5 points, 3 of them coming from a derby which is often just a lottery. They'd gone for 17 games with only 2 wins.
They only had 4 wins all season and only 1 of those were against any relegation rivals. They were absolutely stone dead, buried, dug up by archaeologists and put in a museum. They had absolutely no hope of staying up... other than a pandemic allowing them to play the victim card.
As for the United manager - seems a good appointment. Not one of the usual "jobs for the boys" lads, but not an untested nobody. He's worked his way up and this will be the biggest job he's had, so hopefully got a good bit of ambition.
Dundee United et al are getting exactly what they deserved and for them, and any other club, to greet about self preservation and sporting integrity is absolutely laughable!!
comment by HMFC Loyal (U22418)
posted 2 minutes ago
Dundee United et al are getting exactly what they deserved and for them, and any other club, to greet about self preservation and sporting integrity is absolutely laughable!!
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snigger
sounds like a character from the viz
Sadly we do still have the backdrop of the court case and the acrimony I feel towards particularly Hearts is growing enormously. I've always said on here that I quite like Hearts but that's quickly changing. While I held sympathy for their plight, and particularly Partick's too, they can quite frankly go and feck themselves now. We're being hammered financially through no fault of our own, and they may very well kill off Raith and Cove with what they're doing. That's shameful.
erm hearts, partick and stranraer would probably say the exact same thing?
comment by Call Sign: Clarence (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 seconds ago
Wonder if the clubs are regretting not extending the league sizes to get over this issue?
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I wasn't against it but I can understand why many clubs - especially Premiership teams would have been.
Take St Mirren for example - stadium hold 8000. By remaining as is they get 2 home games v Celtic and 2 home games v Rangers - yes they get the same for all other teams but they can as near as damn it guarantee a full house in they games.
£27 a ticket as an average so that's £216k (give or take for the season book holders, kids and hospitality increase. Over a season they can take in £1M from 4 home games v the OF. or 500k if they are on the 2 away games cycle before th split but over the course of 2 seasons they could get £1.5M
By going to a 14 team top tier they are unlikely to make the top 6. That means they may play a few more league games but they only get one home game v each of the OF so only take in £1M over 2 seasons. £500k to a club the size of St Mirren is a lot - not including any TV coverage of the games, advertising revenue etc
St Johnstone are a team who perhaps feel they have a chance of a top 6 but not guaranteed. Their stadium has an etra 25% on St Mirren so increase the potential loss by 25%
Suddenly you see why clubs mid to bottom don't want to risk losing out on money making games just so that Hearts stay up.
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You always use St Mirren as an example, it’s almost like you used to support them until celtic started winning things after Rangers done 9IAR
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 seconds ago
Wonder if the clubs are regretting not extending the league sizes to get over this issue?
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I wasn't against it but I can understand why many clubs - especially Premiership teams would have been.
Take St Mirren for example - stadium hold 8000. By remaining as is they get 2 home games v Celtic and 2 home games v Rangers - yes they get the same for all other teams but they can as near as damn it guarantee a full house in they games.
£27 a ticket as an average so that's £216k (give or take for the season book holders, kids and hospitality increase. Over a season they can take in £1M from 4 home games v the OF. or 500k if they are on the 2 away games cycle before th split but over the course of 2 seasons they could get £1.5M
By going to a 14 team top tier they are unlikely to make the top 6. That means they may play a few more league games but they only get one home game v each of the OF so only take in £1M over 2 seasons. £500k to a club the size of St Mirren is a lot - not including any TV coverage of the games, advertising revenue etc
St Johnstone are a team who perhaps feel they have a chance of a top 6 but not guaranteed. Their stadium has an etra 25% on St Mirren so increase the potential loss by 25%
Suddenly you see why clubs mid to bottom don't want to risk losing out on money making games just so that Hearts stay up.
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You always use St Mirren as an example, it’s almost like you used to support them until celtic started winning things after Rangers done 9IAR
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Hmmm
Now how would a new poster know this?
Reveal yourself
Ach leave chic Young alone
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comment by HMFC Loyal (U22418)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign: Clarence (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 seconds ago
Wonder if the clubs are regretting not extending the league sizes to get over this issue?
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I wasn't against it but I can understand why many clubs - especially Premiership teams would have been.
Take St Mirren for example - stadium hold 8000. By remaining as is they get 2 home games v Celtic and 2 home games v Rangers - yes they get the same for all other teams but they can as near as damn it guarantee a full house in they games.
£27 a ticket as an average so that's £216k (give or take for the season book holders, kids and hospitality increase. Over a season they can take in £1M from 4 home games v the OF. or 500k if they are on the 2 away games cycle before th split but over the course of 2 seasons they could get £1.5M
By going to a 14 team top tier they are unlikely to make the top 6. That means they may play a few more league games but they only get one home game v each of the OF so only take in £1M over 2 seasons. £500k to a club the size of St Mirren is a lot - not including any TV coverage of the games, advertising revenue etc
St Johnstone are a team who perhaps feel they have a chance of a top 6 but not guaranteed. Their stadium has an etra 25% on St Mirren so increase the potential loss by 25%
Suddenly you see why clubs mid to bottom don't want to risk losing out on money making games just so that Hearts stay up.
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You always use St Mirren as an example, it’s almost like you used to support them until celtic started winning things after Rangers done 9IAR
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Hmmm
Now how would a new poster know this?
Reveal yourself
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Is it not well known that he used to be a st mirren fan?
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 seconds ago
Wonder if the clubs are regretting not extending the league sizes to get over this issue?
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I wasn't against it but I can understand why many clubs - especially Premiership teams would have been.
Take St Mirren for example - stadium hold 8000. By remaining as is they get 2 home games v Celtic and 2 home games v Rangers - yes they get the same for all other teams but they can as near as damn it guarantee a full house in they games.
£27 a ticket as an average so that's £216k (give or take for the season book holders, kids and hospitality increase. Over a season they can take in £1M from 4 home games v the OF. or 500k if they are on the 2 away games cycle before th split but over the course of 2 seasons they could get £1.5M
By going to a 14 team top tier they are unlikely to make the top 6. That means they may play a few more league games but they only get one home game v each of the OF so only take in £1M over 2 seasons. £500k to a club the size of St Mirren is a lot - not including any TV coverage of the games, advertising revenue etc
St Johnstone are a team who perhaps feel they have a chance of a top 6 but not guaranteed. Their stadium has an etra 25% on St Mirren so increase the potential loss by 25%
Suddenly you see why clubs mid to bottom don't want to risk losing out on money making games just so that Hearts stay up.
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You always use St Mirren as an example, it’s almost like you used to support them until celtic started winning things after Rangers done 9IAR
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Hmmm
Now how would a new poster know this?
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Is it not well known that he used to be a st mirren fan?
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If you have been reading the site and taking part regularly then yes he will say that he used to go and watch St Mirren with his dad I think.
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posted 17 minutes ago
You always use St Mirren as an example, it’s almost like you used to support them until celtic started winning things after Rangers done 9IAR
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It's also a load of nonsense, as it discounts the extra cost of policing Old Firm fans and that they don't even fill up the stadium. This season in St. Mirren's two home games against Old Firm clubs they managed 6,800 and 7,200. Their average for the season is 5,400.
You also don't get paid extra for TV coverage for a league games, and bizarrely he's ignoring that you still will play a game even if it's not against the Old Firm. So instead of a 7,000 average crowd you'll still get around 5,200.
At present if you finish in the bottom half of the league you'll get between 2 and 4 home games against Old Firm sides, most likely 3.
A 14-team league you'd be guaranteed 2, so that'll be a whopping drop of ~1,800 fans over the season, assuming you somehow played the same number of games. Using the £27/ticket average that would be £49,000. Hardly £500,000!
And another thing - we all saw the consequences of having fewer Old Firm games after Rangers died. Absolutely nobody suffered and many clubs saw an increase in attendances. Well, except Celtic.
Despite all that, I'm against league construction in general. That was just such a spectacularly bad argument it had to be destroyed with facts and logic.
HMFC Loyal
I think i like the cut of his gib
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HMFC Loyal
I think i like the cut of his gib
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Would be so much better if he was a genuine Jambo though
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posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 seconds ago
Wonder if the clubs are regretting not extending the league sizes to get over this issue?
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I wasn't against it but I can understand why many clubs - especially Premiership teams would have been.
Take St Mirren for example - stadium hold 8000. By remaining as is they get 2 home games v Celtic and 2 home games v Rangers - yes they get the same for all other teams but they can as near as damn it guarantee a full house in they games.
£27 a ticket as an average so that's £216k (give or take for the season book holders, kids and hospitality increase. Over a season they can take in £1M from 4 home games v the OF. or 500k if they are on the 2 away games cycle before th split but over the course of 2 seasons they could get £1.5M
By going to a 14 team top tier they are unlikely to make the top 6. That means they may play a few more league games but they only get one home game v each of the OF so only take in £1M over 2 seasons. £500k to a club the size of St Mirren is a lot - not including any TV coverage of the games, advertising revenue etc
St Johnstone are a team who perhaps feel they have a chance of a top 6 but not guaranteed. Their stadium has an etra 25% on St Mirren so increase the potential loss by 25%
Suddenly you see why clubs mid to bottom don't want to risk losing out on money making games just so that Hearts stay up.
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You always use St Mirren as an example, it’s almost like you used to support them until celtic started winning things after Rangers done 9IAR
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Hmmm
Now how would a new poster know this?
Reveal yourself
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Is it not well known that he used to be a st mirren fan?
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If you have been reading the site and taking part regularly then yes he will say that he used to go and watch St Mirren with his dad I think.
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I did go very regularly. Even as a teenager. My mum and my Papa took me to St Mirren while my dad and my uncles took me to Celtic.
As a teenager I played football and mostly at the racecourse near Love St so went to the second half of games after my game
When I was allowed to start going further myself I went to Parkhead. This was during Rangers 9IAR so going to watch St Mirren in the old first division there were probably more wins there.
I was at Hampden in 87 to watch St Mirren and in 90 to watch Celtic.
My brother had a similar upbringing but chose St Mirren. Half of my friends group are St Mirren and the other half were Celtic. Not uncommon growing up in Paisley to have St Mirren and either half of the OF.
Now it's odd that a new poster would know so much about me
So you were a St Mirren supporter, you should have just said that 👍
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 seconds ago
Wonder if the clubs are regretting not extending the league sizes to get over this issue?
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I wasn't against it but I can understand why many clubs - especially Premiership teams would have been.
Take St Mirren for example - stadium hold 8000. By remaining as is they get 2 home games v Celtic and 2 home games v Rangers - yes they get the same for all other teams but they can as near as damn it guarantee a full house in they games.
£27 a ticket as an average so that's £216k (give or take for the season book holders, kids and hospitality increase. Over a season they can take in £1M from 4 home games v the OF. or 500k if they are on the 2 away games cycle before th split but over the course of 2 seasons they could get £1.5M
By going to a 14 team top tier they are unlikely to make the top 6. That means they may play a few more league games but they only get one home game v each of the OF so only take in £1M over 2 seasons. £500k to a club the size of St Mirren is a lot - not including any TV coverage of the games, advertising revenue etc
St Johnstone are a team who perhaps feel they have a chance of a top 6 but not guaranteed. Their stadium has an etra 25% on St Mirren so increase the potential loss by 25%
Suddenly you see why clubs mid to bottom don't want to risk losing out on money making games just so that Hearts stay up.
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You always use St Mirren as an example, it’s almost like you used to support them until celtic started winning things after Rangers done 9IAR
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Hmmm
Now how would a new poster know this?
Reveal yourself
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Is it not well known that he used to be a st mirren fan?
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If you have been reading the site and taking part regularly then yes he will say that he used to go and watch St Mirren with his dad I think.
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I did go very regularly. Even as a teenager. My mum and my Papa took me to St Mirren while my dad and my uncles took me to Celtic.
As a teenager I played football and mostly at the racecourse near Love St so went to the second half of games after my game
When I was allowed to start going further myself I went to Parkhead. This was during Rangers 9IAR so going to watch St Mirren in the old first division there were probably more wins there.
I was at Hampden in 87 to watch St Mirren and in 90 to watch Celtic.
My brother had a similar upbringing but chose St Mirren. Half of my friends group are St Mirren and the other half were Celtic. Not uncommon growing up in Paisley to have St Mirren and either half of the OF.
Now it's odd that a new poster would know so much about me
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Especially just after giving us your life story
Yawn
a new account created to be a wum
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 seconds ago
Wonder if the clubs are regretting not extending the league sizes to get over this issue?
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I wasn't against it but I can understand why many clubs - especially Premiership teams would have been.
Take St Mirren for example - stadium hold 8000. By remaining as is they get 2 home games v Celtic and 2 home games v Rangers - yes they get the same for all other teams but they can as near as damn it guarantee a full house in they games.
£27 a ticket as an average so that's £216k (give or take for the season book holders, kids and hospitality increase. Over a season they can take in £1M from 4 home games v the OF. or 500k if they are on the 2 away games cycle before th split but over the course of 2 seasons they could get £1.5M
By going to a 14 team top tier they are unlikely to make the top 6. That means they may play a few more league games but they only get one home game v each of the OF so only take in £1M over 2 seasons. £500k to a club the size of St Mirren is a lot - not including any TV coverage of the games, advertising revenue etc
St Johnstone are a team who perhaps feel they have a chance of a top 6 but not guaranteed. Their stadium has an etra 25% on St Mirren so increase the potential loss by 25%
Suddenly you see why clubs mid to bottom don't want to risk losing out on money making games just so that Hearts stay up.
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You always use St Mirren as an example, it’s almost like you used to support them until celtic started winning things after Rangers done 9IAR
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Hmmm
Now how would a new poster know this?
Reveal yourself
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Is it not well known that he used to be a st mirren fan?
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If you have been reading the site and taking part regularly then yes he will say that he used to go and watch St Mirren with his dad I think.
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I did go very regularly. Even as a teenager. My mum and my Papa took me to St Mirren while my dad and my uncles took me to Celtic.
As a teenager I played football and mostly at the racecourse near Love St so went to the second half of games after my game
When I was allowed to start going further myself I went to Parkhead. This was during Rangers 9IAR so going to watch St Mirren in the old first division there were probably more wins there.
I was at Hampden in 87 to watch St Mirren and in 90 to watch Celtic.
My brother had a similar upbringing but chose St Mirren. Half of my friends group are St Mirren and the other half were Celtic. Not uncommon growing up in Paisley to have St Mirren and either half of the OF.
Now it's odd that a new poster would know so much about me
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Especially just after giving us your life story
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Exactly! All these guys pouring out their life stories on anonymous Internet forums and then questioning why people know things about them 😂
comment by HMFC Loyal (U22418)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
Dundee United et al are getting exactly what they deserved and for them, and any other club, to greet about self preservation and sporting integrity is absolutely laughable!!
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Please explain why deserve what we're getting
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posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 seconds ago
Wonder if the clubs are regretting not extending the league sizes to get over this issue?
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I wasn't against it but I can understand why many clubs - especially Premiership teams would have been.
Take St Mirren for example - stadium hold 8000. By remaining as is they get 2 home games v Celtic and 2 home games v Rangers - yes they get the same for all other teams but they can as near as damn it guarantee a full house in they games.
£27 a ticket as an average so that's £216k (give or take for the season book holders, kids and hospitality increase. Over a season they can take in £1M from 4 home games v the OF. or 500k if they are on the 2 away games cycle before th split but over the course of 2 seasons they could get £1.5M
By going to a 14 team top tier they are unlikely to make the top 6. That means they may play a few more league games but they only get one home game v each of the OF so only take in £1M over 2 seasons. £500k to a club the size of St Mirren is a lot - not including any TV coverage of the games, advertising revenue etc
St Johnstone are a team who perhaps feel they have a chance of a top 6 but not guaranteed. Their stadium has an etra 25% on St Mirren so increase the potential loss by 25%
Suddenly you see why clubs mid to bottom don't want to risk losing out on money making games just so that Hearts stay up.
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You always use St Mirren as an example, it’s almost like you used to support them until celtic started winning things after Rangers done 9IAR
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Hmmm
Now how would a new poster know this?
Reveal yourself
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Is it not well known that he used to be a st mirren fan?
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If you have been reading the site and taking part regularly then yes he will say that he used to go and watch St Mirren with his dad I think.
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I did go very regularly. Even as a teenager. My mum and my Papa took me to St Mirren while my dad and my uncles took me to Celtic.
As a teenager I played football and mostly at the racecourse near Love St so went to the second half of games after my game
When I was allowed to start going further myself I went to Parkhead. This was during Rangers 9IAR so going to watch St Mirren in the old first division there were probably more wins there.
I was at Hampden in 87 to watch St Mirren and in 90 to watch Celtic.
My brother had a similar upbringing but chose St Mirren. Half of my friends group are St Mirren and the other half were Celtic. Not uncommon growing up in Paisley to have St Mirren and either half of the OF.
Now it's odd that a new poster would know so much about me
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Especially just after giving us your life story
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I have spoken about it on here before. I remember watching my brother years ago and was taking him to the football. I got offered tickets for the OF but he was adamant I had promised him St Mirren
Celtic won 5-1 with some unknown guy called Lubo. St Mirren had the dullest 0-0 draw with Clydebank I think it was
Not your best decision then
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posted 3 minutes ago
Not your best decision then
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I still hold it against him.
Instead of watching the magician Lubo I watched Mark Yardley try to turn and outrun someone
These were the days before having regular score updates so only got OF score at full time. Fuming all the way home at missing it
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posted 8 minutes ago
Yawn
a new account created to be a wum
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Says the guy who created a WUM account with the sole intention of ripping into a rangers poster about his American wife getting pumped with all sorts!
Next thing you will be creating a live pub article after hounding a rangers poster off the site for doing the same thing!
Oh wait....
What a hypocrite you are!
Could be a good appointment. Hopefully, he'll recruit some wingers that are quick and can cross a ball. Seeing that we lack a playmaker in the centre of midfield, could he rectify that problem?
Anyway seemingly McCulloch and Forrest are away. Mellon might be bringing his number 2 along. I think back in the day we were linked with this guy when he was at PNE. Some other players we were linked with around that time were Steiner and Fellner.
Anyway Hearts have a great man in Neilson. If you thought last time was bad, well you are in for a shock. Look forward to keeping the ball, going side to side and backwards.
Another thing Neilson failed to do was to have United mathematically uncatchable. With what he was given the man is unable to react to what changes the opposition make. How Budge thinks he is the saviour, I honestly do not know. That plane banner will need to get looked out as Neilson doesn't do entertaining football to win matches.
Come and get Pawlett, McMullan and King to help with your squad reshaping.
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posted on 7/7/20
comment by Bluenose (U6456)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Bluenose (U6456)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 17 minutes ago
Starting to backfire on Hearts but as sure as God made little green apples, they will be given some considerable compensation as they have recourse again to the courts should arbitration fail to have the two sides agree.
So if they aren't content with what they are offered they will just hold the entire league to ransom by preventing the season from starting. I could be well wrong on that but it's my limited understanding as things stand now.
So, we all cough up and give them millions which each club will proportionately have to share, or
....they go back to court, delay the league start; it still costs millions but even more legal costs which again every club will have to take proportionately and then there's is the very real chance that clubs will go to the wall and even more staff made redundant while the legal process takes its course.
Not a very palatable choice either way and for those who think giving Hearts all their support to GIRU the SPFL, I'm not sure they are really considering the cost implications to their own club.
As ever etc...
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GIRU the lot of them
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Please submit all invoices to
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Stick your invoices up yir erse
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Cannae. That's where I planked the deeds.
posted on 7/7/20
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 35 minutes ago
Thistle should never of been relegated, total disgrace that they were.
Hearts hmmm I reckon they'd of still stayed up, Ross county were in free fall
Dundee Utd don't deserve to get punished for this, just hope we can get it all sorted out asap
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Ross County managed 7 points in the final 6 games of the season - including 2 wins. Hearts had 5 points, 3 of them coming from a derby which is often just a lottery. They'd gone for 17 games with only 2 wins.
They only had 4 wins all season and only 1 of those were against any relegation rivals. They were absolutely stone dead, buried, dug up by archaeologists and put in a museum. They had absolutely no hope of staying up... other than a pandemic allowing them to play the victim card.
As for the United manager - seems a good appointment. Not one of the usual "jobs for the boys" lads, but not an untested nobody. He's worked his way up and this will be the biggest job he's had, so hopefully got a good bit of ambition.
posted on 7/7/20
Dundee United et al are getting exactly what they deserved and for them, and any other club, to greet about self preservation and sporting integrity is absolutely laughable!!
posted on 7/7/20
comment by HMFC Loyal (U22418)
posted 2 minutes ago
Dundee United et al are getting exactly what they deserved and for them, and any other club, to greet about self preservation and sporting integrity is absolutely laughable!!
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snigger
posted on 7/7/20
sounds like a character from the viz
posted on 7/7/20
Sadly we do still have the backdrop of the court case and the acrimony I feel towards particularly Hearts is growing enormously. I've always said on here that I quite like Hearts but that's quickly changing. While I held sympathy for their plight, and particularly Partick's too, they can quite frankly go and feck themselves now. We're being hammered financially through no fault of our own, and they may very well kill off Raith and Cove with what they're doing. That's shameful.
erm hearts, partick and stranraer would probably say the exact same thing?
posted on 7/7/20
comment by Call Sign: Clarence (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 seconds ago
Wonder if the clubs are regretting not extending the league sizes to get over this issue?
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I wasn't against it but I can understand why many clubs - especially Premiership teams would have been.
Take St Mirren for example - stadium hold 8000. By remaining as is they get 2 home games v Celtic and 2 home games v Rangers - yes they get the same for all other teams but they can as near as damn it guarantee a full house in they games.
£27 a ticket as an average so that's £216k (give or take for the season book holders, kids and hospitality increase. Over a season they can take in £1M from 4 home games v the OF. or 500k if they are on the 2 away games cycle before th split but over the course of 2 seasons they could get £1.5M
By going to a 14 team top tier they are unlikely to make the top 6. That means they may play a few more league games but they only get one home game v each of the OF so only take in £1M over 2 seasons. £500k to a club the size of St Mirren is a lot - not including any TV coverage of the games, advertising revenue etc
St Johnstone are a team who perhaps feel they have a chance of a top 6 but not guaranteed. Their stadium has an etra 25% on St Mirren so increase the potential loss by 25%
Suddenly you see why clubs mid to bottom don't want to risk losing out on money making games just so that Hearts stay up.
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You always use St Mirren as an example, it’s almost like you used to support them until celtic started winning things after Rangers done 9IAR
posted on 7/7/20
comment by HMFC Loyal (U22418)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign: Clarence (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 seconds ago
Wonder if the clubs are regretting not extending the league sizes to get over this issue?
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I wasn't against it but I can understand why many clubs - especially Premiership teams would have been.
Take St Mirren for example - stadium hold 8000. By remaining as is they get 2 home games v Celtic and 2 home games v Rangers - yes they get the same for all other teams but they can as near as damn it guarantee a full house in they games.
£27 a ticket as an average so that's £216k (give or take for the season book holders, kids and hospitality increase. Over a season they can take in £1M from 4 home games v the OF. or 500k if they are on the 2 away games cycle before th split but over the course of 2 seasons they could get £1.5M
By going to a 14 team top tier they are unlikely to make the top 6. That means they may play a few more league games but they only get one home game v each of the OF so only take in £1M over 2 seasons. £500k to a club the size of St Mirren is a lot - not including any TV coverage of the games, advertising revenue etc
St Johnstone are a team who perhaps feel they have a chance of a top 6 but not guaranteed. Their stadium has an etra 25% on St Mirren so increase the potential loss by 25%
Suddenly you see why clubs mid to bottom don't want to risk losing out on money making games just so that Hearts stay up.
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You always use St Mirren as an example, it’s almost like you used to support them until celtic started winning things after Rangers done 9IAR
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Hmmm
Now how would a new poster know this?
Reveal yourself
posted on 7/7/20
Ach leave chic Young alone
posted on 7/7/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by HMFC Loyal (U22418)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign: Clarence (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 seconds ago
Wonder if the clubs are regretting not extending the league sizes to get over this issue?
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I wasn't against it but I can understand why many clubs - especially Premiership teams would have been.
Take St Mirren for example - stadium hold 8000. By remaining as is they get 2 home games v Celtic and 2 home games v Rangers - yes they get the same for all other teams but they can as near as damn it guarantee a full house in they games.
£27 a ticket as an average so that's £216k (give or take for the season book holders, kids and hospitality increase. Over a season they can take in £1M from 4 home games v the OF. or 500k if they are on the 2 away games cycle before th split but over the course of 2 seasons they could get £1.5M
By going to a 14 team top tier they are unlikely to make the top 6. That means they may play a few more league games but they only get one home game v each of the OF so only take in £1M over 2 seasons. £500k to a club the size of St Mirren is a lot - not including any TV coverage of the games, advertising revenue etc
St Johnstone are a team who perhaps feel they have a chance of a top 6 but not guaranteed. Their stadium has an etra 25% on St Mirren so increase the potential loss by 25%
Suddenly you see why clubs mid to bottom don't want to risk losing out on money making games just so that Hearts stay up.
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You always use St Mirren as an example, it’s almost like you used to support them until celtic started winning things after Rangers done 9IAR
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Hmmm
Now how would a new poster know this?
Reveal yourself
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Is it not well known that he used to be a st mirren fan?
posted on 7/7/20
comment by HMFC Loyal (U22418)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by HMFC Loyal (U22418)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign: Clarence (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 seconds ago
Wonder if the clubs are regretting not extending the league sizes to get over this issue?
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I wasn't against it but I can understand why many clubs - especially Premiership teams would have been.
Take St Mirren for example - stadium hold 8000. By remaining as is they get 2 home games v Celtic and 2 home games v Rangers - yes they get the same for all other teams but they can as near as damn it guarantee a full house in they games.
£27 a ticket as an average so that's £216k (give or take for the season book holders, kids and hospitality increase. Over a season they can take in £1M from 4 home games v the OF. or 500k if they are on the 2 away games cycle before th split but over the course of 2 seasons they could get £1.5M
By going to a 14 team top tier they are unlikely to make the top 6. That means they may play a few more league games but they only get one home game v each of the OF so only take in £1M over 2 seasons. £500k to a club the size of St Mirren is a lot - not including any TV coverage of the games, advertising revenue etc
St Johnstone are a team who perhaps feel they have a chance of a top 6 but not guaranteed. Their stadium has an etra 25% on St Mirren so increase the potential loss by 25%
Suddenly you see why clubs mid to bottom don't want to risk losing out on money making games just so that Hearts stay up.
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You always use St Mirren as an example, it’s almost like you used to support them until celtic started winning things after Rangers done 9IAR
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Hmmm
Now how would a new poster know this?
Reveal yourself
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Is it not well known that he used to be a st mirren fan?
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If you have been reading the site and taking part regularly then yes he will say that he used to go and watch St Mirren with his dad I think.
posted on 7/7/20
comment by HMFC Loyal (U22418)
posted 17 minutes ago
You always use St Mirren as an example, it’s almost like you used to support them until celtic started winning things after Rangers done 9IAR
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It's also a load of nonsense, as it discounts the extra cost of policing Old Firm fans and that they don't even fill up the stadium. This season in St. Mirren's two home games against Old Firm clubs they managed 6,800 and 7,200. Their average for the season is 5,400.
You also don't get paid extra for TV coverage for a league games, and bizarrely he's ignoring that you still will play a game even if it's not against the Old Firm. So instead of a 7,000 average crowd you'll still get around 5,200.
At present if you finish in the bottom half of the league you'll get between 2 and 4 home games against Old Firm sides, most likely 3.
A 14-team league you'd be guaranteed 2, so that'll be a whopping drop of ~1,800 fans over the season, assuming you somehow played the same number of games. Using the £27/ticket average that would be £49,000. Hardly £500,000!
And another thing - we all saw the consequences of having fewer Old Firm games after Rangers died. Absolutely nobody suffered and many clubs saw an increase in attendances. Well, except Celtic.
Despite all that, I'm against league construction in general. That was just such a spectacularly bad argument it had to be destroyed with facts and logic.
posted on 7/7/20
HMFC Loyal
I think i like the cut of his gib
posted on 7/7/20
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 3 minutes ago
HMFC Loyal
I think i like the cut of his gib
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Would be so much better if he was a genuine Jambo though
posted on 7/7/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by HMFC Loyal (U22418)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by HMFC Loyal (U22418)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign: Clarence (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 seconds ago
Wonder if the clubs are regretting not extending the league sizes to get over this issue?
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I wasn't against it but I can understand why many clubs - especially Premiership teams would have been.
Take St Mirren for example - stadium hold 8000. By remaining as is they get 2 home games v Celtic and 2 home games v Rangers - yes they get the same for all other teams but they can as near as damn it guarantee a full house in they games.
£27 a ticket as an average so that's £216k (give or take for the season book holders, kids and hospitality increase. Over a season they can take in £1M from 4 home games v the OF. or 500k if they are on the 2 away games cycle before th split but over the course of 2 seasons they could get £1.5M
By going to a 14 team top tier they are unlikely to make the top 6. That means they may play a few more league games but they only get one home game v each of the OF so only take in £1M over 2 seasons. £500k to a club the size of St Mirren is a lot - not including any TV coverage of the games, advertising revenue etc
St Johnstone are a team who perhaps feel they have a chance of a top 6 but not guaranteed. Their stadium has an etra 25% on St Mirren so increase the potential loss by 25%
Suddenly you see why clubs mid to bottom don't want to risk losing out on money making games just so that Hearts stay up.
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You always use St Mirren as an example, it’s almost like you used to support them until celtic started winning things after Rangers done 9IAR
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Hmmm
Now how would a new poster know this?
Reveal yourself
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Is it not well known that he used to be a st mirren fan?
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If you have been reading the site and taking part regularly then yes he will say that he used to go and watch St Mirren with his dad I think.
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I did go very regularly. Even as a teenager. My mum and my Papa took me to St Mirren while my dad and my uncles took me to Celtic.
As a teenager I played football and mostly at the racecourse near Love St so went to the second half of games after my game
When I was allowed to start going further myself I went to Parkhead. This was during Rangers 9IAR so going to watch St Mirren in the old first division there were probably more wins there.
I was at Hampden in 87 to watch St Mirren and in 90 to watch Celtic.
My brother had a similar upbringing but chose St Mirren. Half of my friends group are St Mirren and the other half were Celtic. Not uncommon growing up in Paisley to have St Mirren and either half of the OF.
Now it's odd that a new poster would know so much about me
posted on 7/7/20
So you were a St Mirren supporter, you should have just said that 👍
posted on 7/7/20
comment by Call Sign: Clarence (U3627)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by HMFC Loyal (U22418)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by HMFC Loyal (U22418)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign: Clarence (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 seconds ago
Wonder if the clubs are regretting not extending the league sizes to get over this issue?
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I wasn't against it but I can understand why many clubs - especially Premiership teams would have been.
Take St Mirren for example - stadium hold 8000. By remaining as is they get 2 home games v Celtic and 2 home games v Rangers - yes they get the same for all other teams but they can as near as damn it guarantee a full house in they games.
£27 a ticket as an average so that's £216k (give or take for the season book holders, kids and hospitality increase. Over a season they can take in £1M from 4 home games v the OF. or 500k if they are on the 2 away games cycle before th split but over the course of 2 seasons they could get £1.5M
By going to a 14 team top tier they are unlikely to make the top 6. That means they may play a few more league games but they only get one home game v each of the OF so only take in £1M over 2 seasons. £500k to a club the size of St Mirren is a lot - not including any TV coverage of the games, advertising revenue etc
St Johnstone are a team who perhaps feel they have a chance of a top 6 but not guaranteed. Their stadium has an etra 25% on St Mirren so increase the potential loss by 25%
Suddenly you see why clubs mid to bottom don't want to risk losing out on money making games just so that Hearts stay up.
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You always use St Mirren as an example, it’s almost like you used to support them until celtic started winning things after Rangers done 9IAR
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Hmmm
Now how would a new poster know this?
Reveal yourself
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Is it not well known that he used to be a st mirren fan?
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If you have been reading the site and taking part regularly then yes he will say that he used to go and watch St Mirren with his dad I think.
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I did go very regularly. Even as a teenager. My mum and my Papa took me to St Mirren while my dad and my uncles took me to Celtic.
As a teenager I played football and mostly at the racecourse near Love St so went to the second half of games after my game
When I was allowed to start going further myself I went to Parkhead. This was during Rangers 9IAR so going to watch St Mirren in the old first division there were probably more wins there.
I was at Hampden in 87 to watch St Mirren and in 90 to watch Celtic.
My brother had a similar upbringing but chose St Mirren. Half of my friends group are St Mirren and the other half were Celtic. Not uncommon growing up in Paisley to have St Mirren and either half of the OF.
Now it's odd that a new poster would know so much about me
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Especially just after giving us your life story
posted on 7/7/20
Yawn
a new account created to be a wum
posted on 7/7/20
comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......Schizophrenia was my idea!.....No it wasn't!.....You are never alone with a Schizo :D (U2115)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Call Sign: Clarence (U3627)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by HMFC Loyal (U22418)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by HMFC Loyal (U22418)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign: Clarence (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 seconds ago
Wonder if the clubs are regretting not extending the league sizes to get over this issue?
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I wasn't against it but I can understand why many clubs - especially Premiership teams would have been.
Take St Mirren for example - stadium hold 8000. By remaining as is they get 2 home games v Celtic and 2 home games v Rangers - yes they get the same for all other teams but they can as near as damn it guarantee a full house in they games.
£27 a ticket as an average so that's £216k (give or take for the season book holders, kids and hospitality increase. Over a season they can take in £1M from 4 home games v the OF. or 500k if they are on the 2 away games cycle before th split but over the course of 2 seasons they could get £1.5M
By going to a 14 team top tier they are unlikely to make the top 6. That means they may play a few more league games but they only get one home game v each of the OF so only take in £1M over 2 seasons. £500k to a club the size of St Mirren is a lot - not including any TV coverage of the games, advertising revenue etc
St Johnstone are a team who perhaps feel they have a chance of a top 6 but not guaranteed. Their stadium has an etra 25% on St Mirren so increase the potential loss by 25%
Suddenly you see why clubs mid to bottom don't want to risk losing out on money making games just so that Hearts stay up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You always use St Mirren as an example, it’s almost like you used to support them until celtic started winning things after Rangers done 9IAR
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Hmmm
Now how would a new poster know this?
Reveal yourself
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Is it not well known that he used to be a st mirren fan?
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If you have been reading the site and taking part regularly then yes he will say that he used to go and watch St Mirren with his dad I think.
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I did go very regularly. Even as a teenager. My mum and my Papa took me to St Mirren while my dad and my uncles took me to Celtic.
As a teenager I played football and mostly at the racecourse near Love St so went to the second half of games after my game
When I was allowed to start going further myself I went to Parkhead. This was during Rangers 9IAR so going to watch St Mirren in the old first division there were probably more wins there.
I was at Hampden in 87 to watch St Mirren and in 90 to watch Celtic.
My brother had a similar upbringing but chose St Mirren. Half of my friends group are St Mirren and the other half were Celtic. Not uncommon growing up in Paisley to have St Mirren and either half of the OF.
Now it's odd that a new poster would know so much about me
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Especially just after giving us your life story
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Exactly! All these guys pouring out their life stories on anonymous Internet forums and then questioning why people know things about them 😂
posted on 7/7/20
comment by HMFC Loyal (U22418)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
Dundee United et al are getting exactly what they deserved and for them, and any other club, to greet about self preservation and sporting integrity is absolutely laughable!!
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Please explain why deserve what we're getting
posted on 7/7/20
comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......... (U2115)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Call Sign: Clarence (U3627)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by HMFC Loyal (U22418)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by HMFC Loyal (U22418)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign: Clarence (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 seconds ago
Wonder if the clubs are regretting not extending the league sizes to get over this issue?
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I wasn't against it but I can understand why many clubs - especially Premiership teams would have been.
Take St Mirren for example - stadium hold 8000. By remaining as is they get 2 home games v Celtic and 2 home games v Rangers - yes they get the same for all other teams but they can as near as damn it guarantee a full house in they games.
£27 a ticket as an average so that's £216k (give or take for the season book holders, kids and hospitality increase. Over a season they can take in £1M from 4 home games v the OF. or 500k if they are on the 2 away games cycle before th split but over the course of 2 seasons they could get £1.5M
By going to a 14 team top tier they are unlikely to make the top 6. That means they may play a few more league games but they only get one home game v each of the OF so only take in £1M over 2 seasons. £500k to a club the size of St Mirren is a lot - not including any TV coverage of the games, advertising revenue etc
St Johnstone are a team who perhaps feel they have a chance of a top 6 but not guaranteed. Their stadium has an etra 25% on St Mirren so increase the potential loss by 25%
Suddenly you see why clubs mid to bottom don't want to risk losing out on money making games just so that Hearts stay up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You always use St Mirren as an example, it’s almost like you used to support them until celtic started winning things after Rangers done 9IAR
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Hmmm
Now how would a new poster know this?
Reveal yourself
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Is it not well known that he used to be a st mirren fan?
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If you have been reading the site and taking part regularly then yes he will say that he used to go and watch St Mirren with his dad I think.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I did go very regularly. Even as a teenager. My mum and my Papa took me to St Mirren while my dad and my uncles took me to Celtic.
As a teenager I played football and mostly at the racecourse near Love St so went to the second half of games after my game
When I was allowed to start going further myself I went to Parkhead. This was during Rangers 9IAR so going to watch St Mirren in the old first division there were probably more wins there.
I was at Hampden in 87 to watch St Mirren and in 90 to watch Celtic.
My brother had a similar upbringing but chose St Mirren. Half of my friends group are St Mirren and the other half were Celtic. Not uncommon growing up in Paisley to have St Mirren and either half of the OF.
Now it's odd that a new poster would know so much about me
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Especially just after giving us your life story
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I have spoken about it on here before. I remember watching my brother years ago and was taking him to the football. I got offered tickets for the OF but he was adamant I had promised him St Mirren
Celtic won 5-1 with some unknown guy called Lubo. St Mirren had the dullest 0-0 draw with Clydebank I think it was
posted on 7/7/20
Not your best decision then
posted on 7/7/20
comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......... (U2115)
posted 3 minutes ago
Not your best decision then
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I still hold it against him.
Instead of watching the magician Lubo I watched Mark Yardley try to turn and outrun someone
These were the days before having regular score updates so only got OF score at full time. Fuming all the way home at missing it
posted on 7/7/20
comment by Call Sign: Clarence (U3627)
posted 8 minutes ago
Yawn
a new account created to be a wum
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Says the guy who created a WUM account with the sole intention of ripping into a rangers poster about his American wife getting pumped with all sorts!
Next thing you will be creating a live pub article after hounding a rangers poster off the site for doing the same thing!
Oh wait....
What a hypocrite you are!
posted on 7/7/20
Could be a good appointment. Hopefully, he'll recruit some wingers that are quick and can cross a ball. Seeing that we lack a playmaker in the centre of midfield, could he rectify that problem?
Anyway seemingly McCulloch and Forrest are away. Mellon might be bringing his number 2 along. I think back in the day we were linked with this guy when he was at PNE. Some other players we were linked with around that time were Steiner and Fellner.
Anyway Hearts have a great man in Neilson. If you thought last time was bad, well you are in for a shock. Look forward to keeping the ball, going side to side and backwards.
Another thing Neilson failed to do was to have United mathematically uncatchable. With what he was given the man is unable to react to what changes the opposition make. How Budge thinks he is the saviour, I honestly do not know. That plane banner will need to get looked out as Neilson doesn't do entertaining football to win matches.
Come and get Pawlett, McMullan and King to help with your squad reshaping.
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