Bad: we need to shore up our defence. Lindelof not good enough. Bailly aggressiveness anyday for me

"Switching to defensive mode"

Every time we do this I fecking hate it.

When will Ole learn... smh

Problem is when you have Matic/Lindeloff & Maguire who are as slow as a tank, you can't push up far enough to negate Southampton's play. We couldn't get the ball off them and just invited pressure.

I don't think instructions make us play defensively. I'vz been watching for well over sixty years now, and defending a one goal lead against a decent team always ends in bitten nails, and often a draw.
We have done it ti plenty of other teams;
It's psychological.

to be fair, even down to 10 men we didn't really concede many chances at all, and i wasn't that worried for most of the last 15-20 minutes. silly me.

It didn't help that we kept kicking the ball back them for those last 10 mins

Ugliest: Martial and Rashford missing sitters. Game should have been done and dusted.

Even uglier: the most blatant red card I’ve seen all season not given at a vital point in the game.

Greenwood was lucky he wasnt broken up

Never got into the game after that not that he was in it much before hand

It's very difficult to see a game out without the ball. I hope some day we learn this, as it's happened a lot this season and cost a lot of points

The Ugly is that we played a midfield three of;
Bruno, Pogba and Matic, and Matic was the best of the three.

It was Bruno' worst game sine he joined and we looked more like the United before he joined.

Does he need a rest, possibly, but Ole is going to be blamed if he does rest him and we fail to win, just like he will be blamed for not resting him.

Our midfield had an off night, none of them were at the races. Bar shaw our defence wasn’t great either.

Thing is we had to replace our midfield, they were knackered. Naturally bringing Fred and Mctominay on we sat deeper against a side to press really well and had nothing to lose.

What cost us is poor defending from Lindelof and not taking our chances to finish the game.

comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 4 minutes ago
Our midfield had an off night, none of them were at the races. Bar shaw our defence wasn’t great either.
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Think you have to credit southampton though, they also did well against cities midfield recently.

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We didn’t go straight to defensive mode.

Pogba was brought off because he was tired and lumbering around and is more prone to making defensive errors than Fred. I’m not sure who you’d have replaced Pogba with when he was taken off, but we didn’t change the shape or approach when Fred came on. At this point we’d already lost control of the midfield. Ole acted to try to break Southampton’s play up and get a better grip on the game.

Williams then came on for Shaw by virtue of Shaw’s injury. Still we’re playing 4-2-3-1 with Bruno high up the pitch with Martial.

After 84 mins, McT comes on for Bruno, and James for Greenwood. At this point Fred goes to number ten. We’re still set up in a 4-2-3-1. Fred isn’t dropped back into the midfield until Brandon comes off and we’re playing with ten men.

The fact of the matter is that Southampton played well, with discipline and a higher energy than we could muster through the second half. This shouldn’t be a great surprise. They’re a good, well disciplined away side and we haven’t rotated a single player for five (?) games despite two games a week.

I thought Ole should have made changes to bring more energy to midfield earlier and gone to 4-3-3 to try to get control of the game. The fact that he stuck with Bruno up high until the 84th minute says to me that he wanted to kill the game off, not shut up shop.

Credit to Southampton. They deserved and earned a point with a very good performance.

At this point Fred goes to number ten.
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And we didn't score again?

comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 45 minutes ago
At this point Fred goes to number ten.
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And we didn't score again?
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I did laugh when I saw him station himself in behind Martial

comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 45 minutes ago
At this point Fred goes to number ten.
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And we didn't score again?
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I did laugh when I saw him station himself in behind Martial
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Rosso do you think oles in game changes and the timing of them are a weak point for him

comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 45 minutes ago
At this point Fred goes to number ten.
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And we didn't score again?
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I did laugh when I saw him station himself in behind Martial
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Rosso do you think oles in game changes and the timing of them are a weak point for him
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I should add that he hasn't got much wrong since the restart but prior to lock down it was a source of frustration at times for fans

comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 45 minutes ago
At this point Fred goes to number ten.
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And we didn't score again?
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I did laugh when I saw him station himself in behind Martial
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Rosso do you think oles in game changes and the timing of them are a weak point for him
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In terms of substitutions, I think a good proportion of them are sensible and fairly well timed. I think his tactical rigidity is a bit more of an issue.

As for yesterday, I thought he waited too long to bring on fresh legs to try to wrest back control of the midfield, and should have dropped Bruno, or a replacement for Bruno, back in to make a midfield three rather than sticking with the rigid 4-2-3-1 when Soton took control half way through the second half. That way, even if you can’t keep control of the ball magnificently, you can at least prevent the opposition from doing the same.

To be fair to him, despite what some have said, he *didn’t* go defensive yesterday until we were down to ten men. And those fans who used to go ballistic at Mourinho for pulling ten men right back behind the ball when we had a one goal lead should be very happy to see us trying to kill games off rather than shut up shop.

He does have something of a problem with quality when making like-for-like swaps - as does every single manager in the league, including Pep - but these substitutions *have* to be made sometimes. I don’t care who we’re talking about; players cannot play 100 mins of elite football twice per week, every week, and maintain the very highest of standards. No matter how much fans moan about the fact (and it is a fact).

Bruno needs rest. Pogba needs rest. Martial will need rest giving the pressing role he has alongside Bruno now.

How Ole manages that in rotation and in-game management is his biggest challenge for the rest of the season, comfortably.

We need a better right back. AWB doesnt do anything with the ball. The new Smalling? Could be a very expensive flop.

comment by aroon1 (U7949)
posted 49 minutes ago
We need a better right back. AWB doesnt do anything with the ball. The new Smalling? Could be a very expensive flop.
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Can always count on you to post a moronic comment