I'd say you are the only one yes. He's got better and better as the season has went on. Although the whole defence has lacked concentration since the league was won.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 10 minutes ago
I'd say you are the only one yes. He's got better and better as the season has went on. Although the whole defence has lacked concentration since the league was won.
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This, before the breakdown he and Virgil were amazing.
They have lost a bit of concentration is all. next season it will be back
great time to move him on, clearly behind the other 2. get a decent fee aswell, thought we'd only get a few mil
well happy with the fee, and hes on phenomenal money for a 4th choice..
Gomez has been poor since restart. For me the VVD/Matip partnership is the strongest but problem is Matip is made out of glass. Matip is better in the air and better on the ball but probably isn't as quick as Gomez.
Signs a new contract and then gets injured
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champio... (U1108)
posted 7 minutes ago
Gomez has been poor since restart. For me the VVD/Matip partnership is the strongest but problem is Matip is made out of glass. Matip is better in the air and better on the ball but probably isn't as quick as Gomez.
Signs a new contract and then gets injured
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Disagree completely. Matip is slightly better in the air due to his height but he has a 50p head. Also Gomez is a better passer. They're about even in bringing the ball out. Gomez is better defensively.
i would take lovren in a heartbeat at leeds. and at 11M we could just afford it. salary a problem i guess.
Good business if we can get that amount for him.
I do worry when he's in the team.
May be a chance for Nat Phillips to come back from loan, or maybe Hoever or Van den Berg.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champio... (U1108)
posted 7 minutes ago
Gomez has been poor since restart. For me the VVD/Matip partnership is the strongest but problem is Matip is made out of glass. Matip is better in the air and better on the ball but probably isn't as quick as Gomez.
Signs a new contract and then gets injured
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Disagree completely. Matip is slightly better in the air due to his height but he has a 50p head. Also Gomez is a better passer. They're about even in bringing the ball out. Gomez is better defensively.
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Much better in the air. Look at his goal against Arsenal. Defensively he wins most of his headers.
You are forgetting the runs he used to make from defense to attack cutting the midfield out. He is very comfy on the ball.
Gomez has had a bad 6 weeks. Hopefully he will be better beginning of next season. We have 3 top CB's and hopefully a decent 4th choice.
comment by BODinho (U13924)
posted 7 minutes ago
Good business if we can get that amount for him.
I do worry when he's in the team.
May be a chance for Nat Phillips to come back from loan, or maybe Hoever or Van den Berg.
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Nat needs another loan at a PL club
Hoever is playing full back more these days. Not had the growth spurt he was predicted to have and is not even 6ft
VDB is not ready. looked poor in games he was given a chance.
Matip is a better defender than Gomez at this moment.
He is a better reader of the game and passer from the back. He wins all defensive headers unlike Gomez.
Gomez needs more experience which he will get in a few years time.
Gomez will hopefully be back to his best by start of next season. We will need a good replacement for Lovren when he leaves. Matip has already shown by getting injured 20 minutes into the restart that he is made of glass and can’t be relied upon to stay fit.
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champio... (U1108)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champio... (U1108)
posted 7 minutes ago
Gomez has been poor since restart. For me the VVD/Matip partnership is the strongest but problem is Matip is made out of glass. Matip is better in the air and better on the ball but probably isn't as quick as Gomez.
Signs a new contract and then gets injured
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Disagree completely. Matip is slightly better in the air due to his height but he has a 50p head. Also Gomez is a better passer. They're about even in bringing the ball out. Gomez is better defensively.
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Much better in the air. Look at his goal against Arsenal. Defensively he wins most of his headers.
You are forgetting the runs he used to make from defense to attack cutting the midfield out. He is very comfy on the ball.
Gomez has had a bad 6 weeks. Hopefully he will be better beginning of next season. We have 3 top CB's and hopefully a decent 4th choice.
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I'm not forgetting the runs, he's really good at it but then so is Gomez. Yes he scored a good header but he's also missed many sitters with his 50o head which also causes the ball to go to the opposition to often for my liking when he's defending. He's an excellent third choice and will get 15 games a season if he stays fit but the VVD/Gomez partnership is outstanding.
VVD gomez partnership is one of the tightest we have ever seen.
They really let themselves down since the restart but it's understandable. Matip is a great backup
I think VVD and Gomez is the first choice partnership going forward. I do feel for Matip a bit because he was in great form before injury and I think Gomez may have struggled to take his place back.
Definitely a very good backup option although it will he interesting to see if we replace Lovren or promote from the youth.
Gomez has all the potential in the world and hes had games where hes outshone VVD. Been way off it since restart but the entire teams been a bit up n down from game to game. You can let him off under the circumstances sure but overall he does need to become more consistent and keep improving as a player theres still enough he can improve on greatly. Also hes yet to complete a season without missing numerous parts of it through injury. As is Matip.
Lovren never played more than 6 games in a row did he either? We still lacking a reliable CB for VVD so Lovren will have to be replaced no doubt about that.
If Brighton or Wham had gone down it'd have been worth a cheeky cut price bid for Dunk/Diop. Maybe Ake? Never really been overly impressed with him and he seems a bit injury prone too. Not a bad player though.
Find the Gomez matip debate a tough one. I tend to swing between who I prefer depending on who is in the team as both of them tend to perform well when they get a proper run of games. How lucky we are to have that level of quality in our 2nd and 3rd choices.
That all said, I edge towards Gomez purely on his age and the fact he counts to the home grown quota.
On Lovren leaving, great servant to the club who hasn't been perfect but has actually shown himself to be a very good defender 95%of the time. Just too many mistakes for a top team. And the £11m is nic3 but as someone mentioned, the wages we clear from him is probably more important
You are forgetting the runs he used to make from defense to attack cutting the midfield out. He is very comfy on the ball.
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Matips runs from defence are great. Really catches the opposition off guard, he passes it forward as well then. Gomes is starting to make similar runs but he ends up passing it sideways or back..
look running the ball forward is all nice and that but its really swings and roundabouts.
matip is by far the better defender as he can read the game way better. however hes not good in the air despite his height and he's slower so the line goes deeper.
gomez is quick and outrageously talented. he is also all over the place defensively. he gets drawn out too easy, backs off and let's shots in and in general is not that good in the air or as any sort of attacking threat.
thats harsh on both but they are getting judged against perfection.
I'd play gomez but it's all perference for where you need the high line and full backs.
I'd want fabinho in with gomez all the time.
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posted on 24/7/20
I'd say you are the only one yes. He's got better and better as the season has went on. Although the whole defence has lacked concentration since the league was won.
posted on 24/7/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 10 minutes ago
I'd say you are the only one yes. He's got better and better as the season has went on. Although the whole defence has lacked concentration since the league was won.
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This, before the breakdown he and Virgil were amazing.
They have lost a bit of concentration is all. next season it will be back
posted on 24/7/20
lockdown
posted on 24/7/20
great time to move him on, clearly behind the other 2. get a decent fee aswell, thought we'd only get a few mil
posted on 24/7/20
well happy with the fee, and hes on phenomenal money for a 4th choice..
posted on 24/7/20
Gomez has been poor since restart. For me the VVD/Matip partnership is the strongest but problem is Matip is made out of glass. Matip is better in the air and better on the ball but probably isn't as quick as Gomez.
Signs a new contract and then gets injured
posted on 24/7/20
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champio... (U1108)
posted 7 minutes ago
Gomez has been poor since restart. For me the VVD/Matip partnership is the strongest but problem is Matip is made out of glass. Matip is better in the air and better on the ball but probably isn't as quick as Gomez.
Signs a new contract and then gets injured
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Disagree completely. Matip is slightly better in the air due to his height but he has a 50p head. Also Gomez is a better passer. They're about even in bringing the ball out. Gomez is better defensively.
posted on 24/7/20
i would take lovren in a heartbeat at leeds. and at 11M we could just afford it. salary a problem i guess.
posted on 24/7/20
Good business if we can get that amount for him.
I do worry when he's in the team.
May be a chance for Nat Phillips to come back from loan, or maybe Hoever or Van den Berg.
posted on 24/7/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champio... (U1108)
posted 7 minutes ago
Gomez has been poor since restart. For me the VVD/Matip partnership is the strongest but problem is Matip is made out of glass. Matip is better in the air and better on the ball but probably isn't as quick as Gomez.
Signs a new contract and then gets injured
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Disagree completely. Matip is slightly better in the air due to his height but he has a 50p head. Also Gomez is a better passer. They're about even in bringing the ball out. Gomez is better defensively.
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Much better in the air. Look at his goal against Arsenal. Defensively he wins most of his headers.
You are forgetting the runs he used to make from defense to attack cutting the midfield out. He is very comfy on the ball.
Gomez has had a bad 6 weeks. Hopefully he will be better beginning of next season. We have 3 top CB's and hopefully a decent 4th choice.
posted on 24/7/20
comment by BODinho (U13924)
posted 7 minutes ago
Good business if we can get that amount for him.
I do worry when he's in the team.
May be a chance for Nat Phillips to come back from loan, or maybe Hoever or Van den Berg.
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Nat needs another loan at a PL club
Hoever is playing full back more these days. Not had the growth spurt he was predicted to have and is not even 6ft
VDB is not ready. looked poor in games he was given a chance.
posted on 24/7/20
Matip is a better defender than Gomez at this moment.
He is a better reader of the game and passer from the back. He wins all defensive headers unlike Gomez.
Gomez needs more experience which he will get in a few years time.
posted on 24/7/20
Gomez will hopefully be back to his best by start of next season. We will need a good replacement for Lovren when he leaves. Matip has already shown by getting injured 20 minutes into the restart that he is made of glass and can’t be relied upon to stay fit.
posted on 24/7/20
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champio... (U1108)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champio... (U1108)
posted 7 minutes ago
Gomez has been poor since restart. For me the VVD/Matip partnership is the strongest but problem is Matip is made out of glass. Matip is better in the air and better on the ball but probably isn't as quick as Gomez.
Signs a new contract and then gets injured
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Disagree completely. Matip is slightly better in the air due to his height but he has a 50p head. Also Gomez is a better passer. They're about even in bringing the ball out. Gomez is better defensively.
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Much better in the air. Look at his goal against Arsenal. Defensively he wins most of his headers.
You are forgetting the runs he used to make from defense to attack cutting the midfield out. He is very comfy on the ball.
Gomez has had a bad 6 weeks. Hopefully he will be better beginning of next season. We have 3 top CB's and hopefully a decent 4th choice.
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I'm not forgetting the runs, he's really good at it but then so is Gomez. Yes he scored a good header but he's also missed many sitters with his 50o head which also causes the ball to go to the opposition to often for my liking when he's defending. He's an excellent third choice and will get 15 games a season if he stays fit but the VVD/Gomez partnership is outstanding.
posted on 24/7/20
VVD gomez partnership is one of the tightest we have ever seen.
They really let themselves down since the restart but it's understandable. Matip is a great backup
posted on 24/7/20
I think VVD and Gomez is the first choice partnership going forward. I do feel for Matip a bit because he was in great form before injury and I think Gomez may have struggled to take his place back.
Definitely a very good backup option although it will he interesting to see if we replace Lovren or promote from the youth.
posted on 24/7/20
Gomez has all the potential in the world and hes had games where hes outshone VVD. Been way off it since restart but the entire teams been a bit up n down from game to game. You can let him off under the circumstances sure but overall he does need to become more consistent and keep improving as a player theres still enough he can improve on greatly. Also hes yet to complete a season without missing numerous parts of it through injury. As is Matip.
Lovren never played more than 6 games in a row did he either? We still lacking a reliable CB for VVD so Lovren will have to be replaced no doubt about that.
posted on 24/7/20
If Brighton or Wham had gone down it'd have been worth a cheeky cut price bid for Dunk/Diop. Maybe Ake? Never really been overly impressed with him and he seems a bit injury prone too. Not a bad player though.
posted on 25/7/20
Find the Gomez matip debate a tough one. I tend to swing between who I prefer depending on who is in the team as both of them tend to perform well when they get a proper run of games. How lucky we are to have that level of quality in our 2nd and 3rd choices.
That all said, I edge towards Gomez purely on his age and the fact he counts to the home grown quota.
On Lovren leaving, great servant to the club who hasn't been perfect but has actually shown himself to be a very good defender 95%of the time. Just too many mistakes for a top team. And the £11m is nic3 but as someone mentioned, the wages we clear from him is probably more important
posted on 25/7/20
You are forgetting the runs he used to make from defense to attack cutting the midfield out. He is very comfy on the ball.
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Matips runs from defence are great. Really catches the opposition off guard, he passes it forward as well then. Gomes is starting to make similar runs but he ends up passing it sideways or back..
posted on 25/7/20
look running the ball forward is all nice and that but its really swings and roundabouts.
matip is by far the better defender as he can read the game way better. however hes not good in the air despite his height and he's slower so the line goes deeper.
gomez is quick and outrageously talented. he is also all over the place defensively. he gets drawn out too easy, backs off and let's shots in and in general is not that good in the air or as any sort of attacking threat.
thats harsh on both but they are getting judged against perfection.
I'd play gomez but it's all perference for where you need the high line and full backs.
I'd want fabinho in with gomez all the time.
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