comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 36 minutes ago
Nothing wrong with inheriting wealth.
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There's nothing per se about inheriting wealth. But:
1) We should be aware that the majority of very wealthy people inherited rather than created that wealth, because there's a narrative that goes around suggesting we shouldn't tax the super-rich as they are the entrepreneurs who drive the economy, create jobs, etc. The truth is that most of the super-rich maintain their wealth through rentiership, which creates monopolistic, anti-innovative, anti-productive pressures in the economy.
2) You seemed quite outraged by the things we saw at the height of the pandemic, including the inequality of outcomes as the poorest sections of the population, often those who delivered the most essential services (medical care, sanitation, provision of food) fell ill and died in disproportionate numbers. This is a reflection of inequality - of the UK's status as one of the most unequal societies in the developed world.
No one is saying we should confiscate the wealth of the super-rich. But a tax system could be designed both to a little bit more redistributive (so that those people doing key jobs can afford to live a less precarious existence, with better workplace safety) and to incentivise innovative exploitation of property rather than rentier capitalism would have us in a much healthier place.
Remember, we had substantially higher economic growth during the post-war years when the political consensus supported relatively higher marginal tax rates and the gap between the rich and poor was very big rather than different galaxies. That's not to argue that the slower average growth since Thatcher's economic revolution is directly caused by the relatively laissez-faire economics we've had since then, but it's hard to argue that relatively higher taxes for the richest automatically = strangling the economy when you look at historical growth vs tax rates.
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 17 minutes ago
and Liverpool went from the fringes of the top 4 to champions without blowing the competition out of the water in terms of expenditure.
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What? They spent a load of money on Van Dijk, Alisson, Fabinho, Mane, Salah and Keita.
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sold to buy unfortunately. Less than 15m net a season since Klopps been there the owners have used of clubs money outside sales.
Who did we blow out the water in spending Wahl? Even gross City Utd Chelsea even Everton spent more. Liverpool have the 4th most expensive squad in the league atm i believe, thats blowing our comp out the water?
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That one summer liveroool signed van dijk and alisson they blew everyone out of the water. Just because hey haven’t bought many players since because they have a completed team, doesn’t change that the success was built on that initial huge amount of spending money.
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We didn't sign them both in a summer.
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 29 minutes ago
In 2018:
Liverpool
Fabinho 40m
Keita 53m
Shaqiri 13m
Alisson 67m
Oxlade Chamberlain 35m
Van Dijk 75m
TOTAL 283m
Man City
Mahrez 60m
Laporte 57m
TOTAL 117m
Man Utd
Dalot 19m
Fred 52m
TOTAL 71m
But Liverpool have never blown anyone out of the water
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Yep after selling one of our best players.
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 28 minutes ago
In 2018:
Liverpool
Fabinho 40m
Keita 53m
Shaqiri 13m
Alisson 67m
Oxlade Chamberlain 35m
Van Dijk 75m
TOTAL 283m
Man City
Mahrez 60m
Laporte 57m
TOTAL 117m
Man Utd
Dalot 19m
Fred 52m
TOTAL 71m
But Liverpool have never blown anyone out of the water
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Why do you care so much about Liverpool Wahl?
Honest question, you are as bad as the few idiots from the Spurs board who are obsessed with them. Why care?
Our main rivals United are not like this.
It's being run as a business because it is a business. Income has been, and will continue to be reduced because of no gate receipts.
Even as a fan I can see why they don't want to pay that much for him.
The future is hard to read, plus Ole might want more than one player.
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 29 minutes ago
In 2018:
Liverpool
Fabinho 40m
Keita 53m
Shaqiri 13m
Alisson 67m
Oxlade Chamberlain 35m
Van Dijk 75m
TOTAL 283m
Man City
Mahrez 60m
Laporte 57m
TOTAL 117m
Man Utd
Dalot 19m
Fred 52m
TOTAL 71m
But Liverpool have never blown anyone out of the water
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Yep after selling one of our best players.
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Doesn't matter, you still spent the money
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 28 minutes ago
In 2018:
Liverpool
Fabinho 40m
Keita 53m
Shaqiri 13m
Alisson 67m
Oxlade Chamberlain 35m
Van Dijk 75m
TOTAL 283m
Man City
Mahrez 60m
Laporte 57m
TOTAL 117m
Man Utd
Dalot 19m
Fred 52m
TOTAL 71m
But Liverpool have never blown anyone out of the water
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Why do you care so much about Liverpool Wahl?
Honest question, you are as bad as the few idiots from the Spurs board who are obsessed with them. Why care?
Our main rivals United are not like this.
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Because Liverpool football club is subhuman garbage.
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 29 minutes ago
In 2018:
Liverpool
Fabinho 40m
Keita 53m
Shaqiri 13m
Alisson 67m
Oxlade Chamberlain 35m
Van Dijk 75m
TOTAL 283m
Man City
Mahrez 60m
Laporte 57m
TOTAL 117m
Man Utd
Dalot 19m
Fred 52m
TOTAL 71m
But Liverpool have never blown anyone out of the water
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Yep after selling one of our best players.
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Doesn't matter, you still spent the money
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Of course we did, we're not going to not spend it are we?
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 29 minutes ago
In 2018:
Liverpool
Fabinho 40m
Keita 53m
Shaqiri 13m
Alisson 67m
Oxlade Chamberlain 35m
Van Dijk 75m
TOTAL 283m
Man City
Mahrez 60m
Laporte 57m
TOTAL 117m
Man Utd
Dalot 19m
Fred 52m
TOTAL 71m
But Liverpool have never blown anyone out of the water
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Yep after selling one of our best players.
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Doesn't matter, you still spent the money
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Of course we did, we're not going to not spend it are we?
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Exactly, you spent the money and blew everyone out of the water like I said you did. So why do you not agree
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 28 minutes ago
In 2018:
Liverpool
Fabinho 40m
Keita 53m
Shaqiri 13m
Alisson 67m
Oxlade Chamberlain 35m
Van Dijk 75m
TOTAL 283m
Man City
Mahrez 60m
Laporte 57m
TOTAL 117m
Man Utd
Dalot 19m
Fred 52m
TOTAL 71m
But Liverpool have never blown anyone out of the water
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Why do you care so much about Liverpool Wahl?
Honest question, you are as bad as the few idiots from the Spurs board who are obsessed with them. Why care?
Our main rivals United are not like this.
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Because Liverpool football club is subhuman garbage.
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As I thought your usual brand of childishness. Stay the course champ, you're doing swell
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 28 minutes ago
In 2018:
Liverpool
Fabinho 40m
Keita 53m
Shaqiri 13m
Alisson 67m
Oxlade Chamberlain 35m
Van Dijk 75m
TOTAL 283m
Man City
Mahrez 60m
Laporte 57m
TOTAL 117m
Man Utd
Dalot 19m
Fred 52m
TOTAL 71m
But Liverpool have never blown anyone out of the water
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Why do you care so much about Liverpool Wahl?
Honest question, you are as bad as the few idiots from the Spurs board who are obsessed with them. Why care?
Our main rivals United are not like this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because Liverpool football club is subhuman garbage.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As I thought your usual brand of childishness. Stay the course champ, you're doing swell
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow what a prik you are. Filtered.
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Haven't the glaziers took around 30 mill a year out of the club into their pockets? I may be off with my numbers but I do recall seeing an article on it sometime back.
They obviously have the right to do as they please as owners but it's kinda 5hit as a fan when u see money constantly being removed from the club that could be invested in the business....
Liverpool owners may not have put much in but they don't seem to use the club as a cash cow.
Be interested to know if anyone knows if there's truth in this or not
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
Our first 11 is looking decent enough.
What we need is some relatively decent prices back ups, with potential for development.
We have next to no rest before the season starts and just signing Sancho won't help the likes of Bruno Pogba rashford get some rest, some after long term lay offs due to injury.
This season will depend on rotation and fitness for us. If 100m gets us 3/4 30m type signings then I for one would happily forget about signing Sancho
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This is a very good point actually proved correct by the managers reluctance to start squad players like Mata. Pereira, Lingard etc.
OK so Google is my friend!
In the last 10 years city's owners have put in over a billion from their own pocket, the glaziers have removed 800 million 😲
Problem servicing debt/dividends but damn... something like 30% spent on the squad which, as this article shows, compared to their rivals theyre left in the dust.
https://therepublikofmancunia.com/shocking-figures-show-how-much-the-glazers-have-taken-from-united/
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 36 minutes ago
Nothing wrong with inheriting wealth.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's nothing per se about inheriting wealth. But:
1) We should be aware that the majority of very wealthy people inherited rather than created that wealth, because there's a narrative that goes around suggesting we shouldn't tax the super-rich as they are the entrepreneurs who drive the economy, create jobs, etc. The truth is that most of the super-rich maintain their wealth through rentiership, which creates monopolistic, anti-innovative, anti-productive pressures in the economy.
2) You seemed quite outraged by the things we saw at the height of the pandemic, including the inequality of outcomes as the poorest sections of the population, often those who delivered the most essential services (medical care, sanitation, provision of food) fell ill and died in disproportionate numbers. This is a reflection of inequality - of the UK's status as one of the most unequal societies in the developed world.
No one is saying we should confiscate the wealth of the super-rich. But a tax system could be designed both to a little bit more redistributive (so that those people doing key jobs can afford to live a less precarious existence, with better workplace safety) and to incentivise innovative exploitation of property rather than rentier capitalism would have us in a much healthier place.
Remember, we had substantially higher economic growth during the post-war years when the political consensus supported relatively higher marginal tax rates and the gap between the rich and poor was very big rather than different galaxies. That's not to argue that the slower average growth since Thatcher's economic revolution is directly caused by the relatively laissez-faire economics we've had since then, but it's hard to argue that relatively higher taxes for the richest automatically = strangling the economy when you look at historical growth vs tax rates.
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One of the best posts I’ve read on JA606, ever, despite the fact that your last sentence is a little too apologetic for my liking.
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
In 2018:
Liverpool
Fabinho 40m
Keita 53m
Shaqiri 13m
Alisson 67m
Oxlade Chamberlain 35m
Van Dijk 75m
TOTAL 283m
Man City
Mahrez 60m
Laporte 57m
TOTAL 117m
Man Utd
Dalot 19m
Fred 52m
TOTAL 71m
But Liverpool have never blown anyone out of the water
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Bravo - 17m
Walker - 50m
Stones - 50m
Sterling - 49m
Gundogan - 20m
Jesus - 27m
Aguero - 38m
Zinchenko - 1.7m
Laporte - 57m
Rodrigo - 63m
KDB - 55m
Sane - 46.5m
B Silva - 43m
D Silva - 24m
Mendy - 52m
Fernandinho - 32m
Mahrez - 60m
Cancelo - 60m
Otamendi - 32m
Ederson - 35m
players on loan 20-30m?
roughly 832m
___
Alisson - 67m
VVD - 75m
TAA - free
Milner - free
Matip - free
Adrian - free
Fabinho - 39m
Ox - 35m
Lallana - 25m
Lovren - 20m
Wijnaldum - 25m
Keita - 52.5m
Bobby - 29m
Salah - 34m
Mane - 34m
Hendo - 16m
Minamino - 7m
Lonergan - free
Shaqiri - 13m
Robertson - 8m
Origi - 10m
Clyne - 12.5
Gomez - 3.5m
Van Den Berg - 1.7m
10m on loan ?
488.2m
832m - 488.2m = ??
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 24 minutes ago
Haven't the glaziers took around 30 mill a year out of the club into their pockets? I may be off with my numbers but I do recall seeing an article on it sometime back.
They obviously have the right to do as they please as owners but it's kinda 5hit as a fan when u see money constantly being removed from the club that could be invested in the business....
Liverpool owners may not have put much in but they don't seem to use the club as a cash cow.
Be interested to know if anyone knows if there's truth in this or not
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When you take into account debt repayments, debt refinancing costs and dividend payments, it’s actually over £60m gross per season they’ve cost the club.
So blown out the water Cities squad cost over 300 million more than ours. So blown out the water Utds and Chelseas cost more than ours, so blown out the water that Arsenals n Evertons probably arent far off ours.
Im not sure how anyone can claim we blew anyone out the water when it comes to spending.
those are all our transfers for the 17/18 and 18/19 transfers seasons, 4 windows.
Utd also signed Sanchez 30m (transfermrket) valuation of mkhi think he cost 24m Lindelof 32m matic 40m and lukaku 90m
city spent 285m in 17/18 and 70m in 18/19
so again, they outspent us? hows that us blowing our competition out the water? Also only one team out of the 3 lost our best player.
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 29 minutes ago
In 2018:
Liverpool
Fabinho 40m
Keita 53m
Shaqiri 13m
Alisson 67m
Oxlade Chamberlain 35m
Van Dijk 75m
TOTAL 283m
Man City
Mahrez 60m
Laporte 57m
TOTAL 117m
Man Utd
Dalot 19m
Fred 52m
TOTAL 71m
But Liverpool have never blown anyone out of the water
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Yep after selling one of our best players.
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Doesn't matter, you still spent the money
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course we did, we're not going to not spend it are we?
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Exactly, you spent the money and blew everyone out of the water like I said you did. So why do you not agree
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Because we didn't blow anyone out the water.
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posted on 20/8/20
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 36 minutes ago
Nothing wrong with inheriting wealth.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's nothing per se about inheriting wealth. But:
1) We should be aware that the majority of very wealthy people inherited rather than created that wealth, because there's a narrative that goes around suggesting we shouldn't tax the super-rich as they are the entrepreneurs who drive the economy, create jobs, etc. The truth is that most of the super-rich maintain their wealth through rentiership, which creates monopolistic, anti-innovative, anti-productive pressures in the economy.
2) You seemed quite outraged by the things we saw at the height of the pandemic, including the inequality of outcomes as the poorest sections of the population, often those who delivered the most essential services (medical care, sanitation, provision of food) fell ill and died in disproportionate numbers. This is a reflection of inequality - of the UK's status as one of the most unequal societies in the developed world.
No one is saying we should confiscate the wealth of the super-rich. But a tax system could be designed both to a little bit more redistributive (so that those people doing key jobs can afford to live a less precarious existence, with better workplace safety) and to incentivise innovative exploitation of property rather than rentier capitalism would have us in a much healthier place.
Remember, we had substantially higher economic growth during the post-war years when the political consensus supported relatively higher marginal tax rates and the gap between the rich and poor was very big rather than different galaxies. That's not to argue that the slower average growth since Thatcher's economic revolution is directly caused by the relatively laissez-faire economics we've had since then, but it's hard to argue that relatively higher taxes for the richest automatically = strangling the economy when you look at historical growth vs tax rates.
posted on 20/8/20
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 17 minutes ago
and Liverpool went from the fringes of the top 4 to champions without blowing the competition out of the water in terms of expenditure.
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What? They spent a load of money on Van Dijk, Alisson, Fabinho, Mane, Salah and Keita.
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sold to buy unfortunately. Less than 15m net a season since Klopps been there the owners have used of clubs money outside sales.
Who did we blow out the water in spending Wahl? Even gross City Utd Chelsea even Everton spent more. Liverpool have the 4th most expensive squad in the league atm i believe, thats blowing our comp out the water?
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That one summer liveroool signed van dijk and alisson they blew everyone out of the water. Just because hey haven’t bought many players since because they have a completed team, doesn’t change that the success was built on that initial huge amount of spending money.
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We didn't sign them both in a summer.
posted on 20/8/20
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 29 minutes ago
In 2018:
Liverpool
Fabinho 40m
Keita 53m
Shaqiri 13m
Alisson 67m
Oxlade Chamberlain 35m
Van Dijk 75m
TOTAL 283m
Man City
Mahrez 60m
Laporte 57m
TOTAL 117m
Man Utd
Dalot 19m
Fred 52m
TOTAL 71m
But Liverpool have never blown anyone out of the water
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Yep after selling one of our best players.
posted on 20/8/20
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 28 minutes ago
In 2018:
Liverpool
Fabinho 40m
Keita 53m
Shaqiri 13m
Alisson 67m
Oxlade Chamberlain 35m
Van Dijk 75m
TOTAL 283m
Man City
Mahrez 60m
Laporte 57m
TOTAL 117m
Man Utd
Dalot 19m
Fred 52m
TOTAL 71m
But Liverpool have never blown anyone out of the water
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Why do you care so much about Liverpool Wahl?
Honest question, you are as bad as the few idiots from the Spurs board who are obsessed with them. Why care?
Our main rivals United are not like this.
posted on 20/8/20
It's being run as a business because it is a business. Income has been, and will continue to be reduced because of no gate receipts.
Even as a fan I can see why they don't want to pay that much for him.
The future is hard to read, plus Ole might want more than one player.
posted on 20/8/20
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 29 minutes ago
In 2018:
Liverpool
Fabinho 40m
Keita 53m
Shaqiri 13m
Alisson 67m
Oxlade Chamberlain 35m
Van Dijk 75m
TOTAL 283m
Man City
Mahrez 60m
Laporte 57m
TOTAL 117m
Man Utd
Dalot 19m
Fred 52m
TOTAL 71m
But Liverpool have never blown anyone out of the water
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Yep after selling one of our best players.
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Doesn't matter, you still spent the money
posted on 20/8/20
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 28 minutes ago
In 2018:
Liverpool
Fabinho 40m
Keita 53m
Shaqiri 13m
Alisson 67m
Oxlade Chamberlain 35m
Van Dijk 75m
TOTAL 283m
Man City
Mahrez 60m
Laporte 57m
TOTAL 117m
Man Utd
Dalot 19m
Fred 52m
TOTAL 71m
But Liverpool have never blown anyone out of the water
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Why do you care so much about Liverpool Wahl?
Honest question, you are as bad as the few idiots from the Spurs board who are obsessed with them. Why care?
Our main rivals United are not like this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because Liverpool football club is subhuman garbage.
posted on 20/8/20
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 29 minutes ago
In 2018:
Liverpool
Fabinho 40m
Keita 53m
Shaqiri 13m
Alisson 67m
Oxlade Chamberlain 35m
Van Dijk 75m
TOTAL 283m
Man City
Mahrez 60m
Laporte 57m
TOTAL 117m
Man Utd
Dalot 19m
Fred 52m
TOTAL 71m
But Liverpool have never blown anyone out of the water
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Yep after selling one of our best players.
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Doesn't matter, you still spent the money
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Of course we did, we're not going to not spend it are we?
posted on 20/8/20
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 29 minutes ago
In 2018:
Liverpool
Fabinho 40m
Keita 53m
Shaqiri 13m
Alisson 67m
Oxlade Chamberlain 35m
Van Dijk 75m
TOTAL 283m
Man City
Mahrez 60m
Laporte 57m
TOTAL 117m
Man Utd
Dalot 19m
Fred 52m
TOTAL 71m
But Liverpool have never blown anyone out of the water
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Yep after selling one of our best players.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Doesn't matter, you still spent the money
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course we did, we're not going to not spend it are we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly, you spent the money and blew everyone out of the water like I said you did. So why do you not agree
posted on 20/8/20
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 28 minutes ago
In 2018:
Liverpool
Fabinho 40m
Keita 53m
Shaqiri 13m
Alisson 67m
Oxlade Chamberlain 35m
Van Dijk 75m
TOTAL 283m
Man City
Mahrez 60m
Laporte 57m
TOTAL 117m
Man Utd
Dalot 19m
Fred 52m
TOTAL 71m
But Liverpool have never blown anyone out of the water
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why do you care so much about Liverpool Wahl?
Honest question, you are as bad as the few idiots from the Spurs board who are obsessed with them. Why care?
Our main rivals United are not like this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because Liverpool football club is subhuman garbage.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As I thought your usual brand of childishness. Stay the course champ, you're doing swell
posted on 20/8/20
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 28 minutes ago
In 2018:
Liverpool
Fabinho 40m
Keita 53m
Shaqiri 13m
Alisson 67m
Oxlade Chamberlain 35m
Van Dijk 75m
TOTAL 283m
Man City
Mahrez 60m
Laporte 57m
TOTAL 117m
Man Utd
Dalot 19m
Fred 52m
TOTAL 71m
But Liverpool have never blown anyone out of the water
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why do you care so much about Liverpool Wahl?
Honest question, you are as bad as the few idiots from the Spurs board who are obsessed with them. Why care?
Our main rivals United are not like this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because Liverpool football club is subhuman garbage.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As I thought your usual brand of childishness. Stay the course champ, you're doing swell
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow what a prik you are. Filtered.
posted on 20/8/20
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posted on 20/8/20
Haven't the glaziers took around 30 mill a year out of the club into their pockets? I may be off with my numbers but I do recall seeing an article on it sometime back.
They obviously have the right to do as they please as owners but it's kinda 5hit as a fan when u see money constantly being removed from the club that could be invested in the business....
Liverpool owners may not have put much in but they don't seem to use the club as a cash cow.
Be interested to know if anyone knows if there's truth in this or not
posted on 20/8/20
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
Our first 11 is looking decent enough.
What we need is some relatively decent prices back ups, with potential for development.
We have next to no rest before the season starts and just signing Sancho won't help the likes of Bruno Pogba rashford get some rest, some after long term lay offs due to injury.
This season will depend on rotation and fitness for us. If 100m gets us 3/4 30m type signings then I for one would happily forget about signing Sancho
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This is a very good point actually proved correct by the managers reluctance to start squad players like Mata. Pereira, Lingard etc.
posted on 20/8/20
OK so Google is my friend!
In the last 10 years city's owners have put in over a billion from their own pocket, the glaziers have removed 800 million 😲
Problem servicing debt/dividends but damn... something like 30% spent on the squad which, as this article shows, compared to their rivals theyre left in the dust.
https://therepublikofmancunia.com/shocking-figures-show-how-much-the-glazers-have-taken-from-united/
posted on 20/8/20
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 36 minutes ago
Nothing wrong with inheriting wealth.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's nothing per se about inheriting wealth. But:
1) We should be aware that the majority of very wealthy people inherited rather than created that wealth, because there's a narrative that goes around suggesting we shouldn't tax the super-rich as they are the entrepreneurs who drive the economy, create jobs, etc. The truth is that most of the super-rich maintain their wealth through rentiership, which creates monopolistic, anti-innovative, anti-productive pressures in the economy.
2) You seemed quite outraged by the things we saw at the height of the pandemic, including the inequality of outcomes as the poorest sections of the population, often those who delivered the most essential services (medical care, sanitation, provision of food) fell ill and died in disproportionate numbers. This is a reflection of inequality - of the UK's status as one of the most unequal societies in the developed world.
No one is saying we should confiscate the wealth of the super-rich. But a tax system could be designed both to a little bit more redistributive (so that those people doing key jobs can afford to live a less precarious existence, with better workplace safety) and to incentivise innovative exploitation of property rather than rentier capitalism would have us in a much healthier place.
Remember, we had substantially higher economic growth during the post-war years when the political consensus supported relatively higher marginal tax rates and the gap between the rich and poor was very big rather than different galaxies. That's not to argue that the slower average growth since Thatcher's economic revolution is directly caused by the relatively laissez-faire economics we've had since then, but it's hard to argue that relatively higher taxes for the richest automatically = strangling the economy when you look at historical growth vs tax rates.
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One of the best posts I’ve read on JA606, ever, despite the fact that your last sentence is a little too apologetic for my liking.
posted on 20/8/20
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
In 2018:
Liverpool
Fabinho 40m
Keita 53m
Shaqiri 13m
Alisson 67m
Oxlade Chamberlain 35m
Van Dijk 75m
TOTAL 283m
Man City
Mahrez 60m
Laporte 57m
TOTAL 117m
Man Utd
Dalot 19m
Fred 52m
TOTAL 71m
But Liverpool have never blown anyone out of the water
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Bravo - 17m
Walker - 50m
Stones - 50m
Sterling - 49m
Gundogan - 20m
Jesus - 27m
Aguero - 38m
Zinchenko - 1.7m
Laporte - 57m
Rodrigo - 63m
KDB - 55m
Sane - 46.5m
B Silva - 43m
D Silva - 24m
Mendy - 52m
Fernandinho - 32m
Mahrez - 60m
Cancelo - 60m
Otamendi - 32m
Ederson - 35m
players on loan 20-30m?
roughly 832m
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Alisson - 67m
VVD - 75m
TAA - free
Milner - free
Matip - free
Adrian - free
Fabinho - 39m
Ox - 35m
Lallana - 25m
Lovren - 20m
Wijnaldum - 25m
Keita - 52.5m
Bobby - 29m
Salah - 34m
Mane - 34m
Hendo - 16m
Minamino - 7m
Lonergan - free
Shaqiri - 13m
Robertson - 8m
Origi - 10m
Clyne - 12.5
Gomez - 3.5m
Van Den Berg - 1.7m
10m on loan ?
488.2m
832m - 488.2m = ??
posted on 20/8/20
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 24 minutes ago
Haven't the glaziers took around 30 mill a year out of the club into their pockets? I may be off with my numbers but I do recall seeing an article on it sometime back.
They obviously have the right to do as they please as owners but it's kinda 5hit as a fan when u see money constantly being removed from the club that could be invested in the business....
Liverpool owners may not have put much in but they don't seem to use the club as a cash cow.
Be interested to know if anyone knows if there's truth in this or not
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When you take into account debt repayments, debt refinancing costs and dividend payments, it’s actually over £60m gross per season they’ve cost the club.
posted on 20/8/20
So blown out the water Cities squad cost over 300 million more than ours. So blown out the water Utds and Chelseas cost more than ours, so blown out the water that Arsenals n Evertons probably arent far off ours.
Im not sure how anyone can claim we blew anyone out the water when it comes to spending.
posted on 20/8/20
those are all our transfers for the 17/18 and 18/19 transfers seasons, 4 windows.
Utd also signed Sanchez 30m (transfermrket) valuation of mkhi think he cost 24m Lindelof 32m matic 40m and lukaku 90m
city spent 285m in 17/18 and 70m in 18/19
so again, they outspent us? hows that us blowing our competition out the water? Also only one team out of the 3 lost our best player.
posted on 20/8/20
She anyway jadon Sancho?
posted on 20/8/20
So
posted on 20/8/20
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ^ (U22443)
posted 29 minutes ago
In 2018:
Liverpool
Fabinho 40m
Keita 53m
Shaqiri 13m
Alisson 67m
Oxlade Chamberlain 35m
Van Dijk 75m
TOTAL 283m
Man City
Mahrez 60m
Laporte 57m
TOTAL 117m
Man Utd
Dalot 19m
Fred 52m
TOTAL 71m
But Liverpool have never blown anyone out of the water
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Yep after selling one of our best players.
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Doesn't matter, you still spent the money
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Of course we did, we're not going to not spend it are we?
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Exactly, you spent the money and blew everyone out of the water like I said you did. So why do you not agree
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Because we didn't blow anyone out the water.
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