I think he wanted to modernise the club in terms of training and lifestyle for the players. It’s taken a long time to shake off the old ways and Klopp is the first manager IMO to actually make the club in his own image.
Houiller could see what needed to be done a long time ago.
Roy Evans didn’t seem too enamoured with him did he?
Yeah Houllier changed the methods a lot which had been the same for decades and perhaps were outdated, from training to diet.
comment by Geoff Tipps (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
Roy Evans didn’t seem too enamoured with him did he?
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You can see why. Joint manager? It was never going to work.
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Houiller was the first manager we had to change things up like the nutrition, way of training and banning drinking.
He made some mistakes in buying the wrong players which costed him at the end.
Going by the hoardings behind him that particular interview looks as though it was around 2004 so just before he got sacked. I imagine it was probably just him finally blowing his top having been under huge scrutiny for most of that season
I think personally it was more about "style" than anything else.
People where whining about his style being defensive.
The clue here is the board went out and got Rafa benitez who was even more of a straight jacket so clearly it wasn't from above houllier that the pressure was from.
Have a big soft spot for Houllier, when they clapped his return from his surgery made for an emotional watch again
comment by The Mane Man - PL CHAMPIONS (U19731)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Houiller was the first manager we had to change things up like the nutrition, way of training and banning drinking.
He made some mistakes in buying the wrong players which costed him at the end.
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I thought they said in the documentary the first person to try change the lifestyle was Souness?
The players hated it and then the drinking/jolly boys outings recommenced once Evans became manager.
Then Houllier got rid of it altogether. Feel a bit sorry for Souness and Houllier in that regard. Somebody had to do it as football was changing.
I remember me complaining about the style of play at the time on the old BBC 606. It was dreadful football to be honest but we got some good results and trophies.
It was 11 players playing deep and hitting the long ball to Owen to run in space.
Houllier doesn't appear on too many Liverpool flags but I do think the club owes him a great deal.
He was the one that restored us to winning ways and had 2 great campaigns in 01 and 02.
I was delighted to hear that he was at the final in 05 and in the dressing room with some of the players.
I think in hisast season we went on a run of 11 games without a win or something. We were too defensive and played on the counter attack.
Like we seen recently with maureen at United, that gets you only so far, but once teams sus you out, the results turn and combined with turgid football it was only going to end in one way.
I've quite a lot of time for the work Houllier did with us. If you look at the players he brought into the club it was an impressive group: Hyypia, Henchoz, Hamann, Babbel, Riise. All very good but all very defensive.
If you look to the other end of the pitch then the signings and their success was much more patchy - Heskey, Cisse, Barmby, Baros, Litmanen, Kewell, Diouf.
If you take into consideration he also helped bring Carragher through, I think it's fair to say that Houllier shaped our defence for close to a decade and I'm not sure he quite gets the credit due. But once the foundation was there, he never found a way build on that platform and develop a more varied attack, he just defaulted to utilising the most potent weapon we had at that point - Owen. It ultimately cost us and him.
The Diouf signing over Anelka is the one that baffles the most. Who knows how that would've impacted the clubs fortunes.
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 2 hours, 43 minutes ago
The Diouf signing over Anelka is the one that baffles the most. Who knows how that would've impacted the clubs fortunes.
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Yep - I remember being shocked at the time about us not taking Anelka on. It since transpired that Houllier didn't like his personality. If only he had loaned Diouf for six months instead and had a look at his, he'd have thought Anelka a saint.
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 5 hours, 7 minutes ago
The Diouf signing over Anelka is the one that baffles the most. Who knows how that would've impacted the clubs fortunes.
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The Anelka documentary on Netflix suggests that his brothers were pimping him around other clubs because he wasn’t signed up and Hollier didn’t like that so got rid.
The fans know how much we should appreciate Houllier
When he came back to Anfield with Villa, we gave him a great reception “Gerards heart beat” was on the banner.
He was loving it - got roasted by the villa press/fans for it but there’s no doubt Ged is a red.
rafa won the Big one and had a god at Everton and utd and people loved him for it but if I were to compare the two men looking back.
rafa was a better tactician but he was really a straight jacket.
I bet gerrard would love to be 25 now playing for klopp not either of these two.
it be as hard if not harder tactically but its a whole other level of game
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posted on 1/9/20
I think he wanted to modernise the club in terms of training and lifestyle for the players. It’s taken a long time to shake off the old ways and Klopp is the first manager IMO to actually make the club in his own image.
Houiller could see what needed to be done a long time ago.
posted on 1/9/20
Roy Evans didn’t seem too enamoured with him did he?
posted on 1/9/20
Yeah Houllier changed the methods a lot which had been the same for decades and perhaps were outdated, from training to diet.
posted on 1/9/20
comment by Geoff Tipps (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
Roy Evans didn’t seem too enamoured with him did he?
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You can see why. Joint manager? It was never going to work.
posted on 1/9/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 1/9/20
Houiller was the first manager we had to change things up like the nutrition, way of training and banning drinking.
He made some mistakes in buying the wrong players which costed him at the end.
posted on 1/9/20
Going by the hoardings behind him that particular interview looks as though it was around 2004 so just before he got sacked. I imagine it was probably just him finally blowing his top having been under huge scrutiny for most of that season
posted on 1/9/20
I think personally it was more about "style" than anything else.
People where whining about his style being defensive.
The clue here is the board went out and got Rafa benitez who was even more of a straight jacket so clearly it wasn't from above houllier that the pressure was from.
posted on 1/9/20
Have a big soft spot for Houllier, when they clapped his return from his surgery made for an emotional watch again
posted on 1/9/20
comment by The Mane Man - PL CHAMPIONS (U19731)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Houiller was the first manager we had to change things up like the nutrition, way of training and banning drinking.
He made some mistakes in buying the wrong players which costed him at the end.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought they said in the documentary the first person to try change the lifestyle was Souness?
The players hated it and then the drinking/jolly boys outings recommenced once Evans became manager.
Then Houllier got rid of it altogether. Feel a bit sorry for Souness and Houllier in that regard. Somebody had to do it as football was changing.
posted on 1/9/20
I remember me complaining about the style of play at the time on the old BBC 606. It was dreadful football to be honest but we got some good results and trophies.
It was 11 players playing deep and hitting the long ball to Owen to run in space.
posted on 1/9/20
Houllier doesn't appear on too many Liverpool flags but I do think the club owes him a great deal.
He was the one that restored us to winning ways and had 2 great campaigns in 01 and 02.
I was delighted to hear that he was at the final in 05 and in the dressing room with some of the players.
posted on 1/9/20
I think in hisast season we went on a run of 11 games without a win or something. We were too defensive and played on the counter attack.
Like we seen recently with maureen at United, that gets you only so far, but once teams sus you out, the results turn and combined with turgid football it was only going to end in one way.
posted on 1/9/20
I've quite a lot of time for the work Houllier did with us. If you look at the players he brought into the club it was an impressive group: Hyypia, Henchoz, Hamann, Babbel, Riise. All very good but all very defensive.
If you look to the other end of the pitch then the signings and their success was much more patchy - Heskey, Cisse, Barmby, Baros, Litmanen, Kewell, Diouf.
If you take into consideration he also helped bring Carragher through, I think it's fair to say that Houllier shaped our defence for close to a decade and I'm not sure he quite gets the credit due. But once the foundation was there, he never found a way build on that platform and develop a more varied attack, he just defaulted to utilising the most potent weapon we had at that point - Owen. It ultimately cost us and him.
posted on 1/9/20
The Diouf signing over Anelka is the one that baffles the most. Who knows how that would've impacted the clubs fortunes.
posted on 1/9/20
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 2 hours, 43 minutes ago
The Diouf signing over Anelka is the one that baffles the most. Who knows how that would've impacted the clubs fortunes.
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Yep - I remember being shocked at the time about us not taking Anelka on. It since transpired that Houllier didn't like his personality. If only he had loaned Diouf for six months instead and had a look at his, he'd have thought Anelka a saint.
posted on 1/9/20
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 5 hours, 7 minutes ago
The Diouf signing over Anelka is the one that baffles the most. Who knows how that would've impacted the clubs fortunes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Anelka documentary on Netflix suggests that his brothers were pimping him around other clubs because he wasn’t signed up and Hollier didn’t like that so got rid.
posted on 1/9/20
The fans know how much we should appreciate Houllier
When he came back to Anfield with Villa, we gave him a great reception “Gerards heart beat” was on the banner.
He was loving it - got roasted by the villa press/fans for it but there’s no doubt Ged is a red.
posted on 2/9/20
rafa won the Big one and had a god at Everton and utd and people loved him for it but if I were to compare the two men looking back.
rafa was a better tactician but he was really a straight jacket.
I bet gerrard would love to be 25 now playing for klopp not either of these two.
it be as hard if not harder tactically but its a whole other level of game
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