Great business for Villa yeah.
If we get Partey and Aouar partially because we sell Emi then, yeah, it is good business.
He was worth 2m a year ago. If we get 20m for him then with the 30m we got for winning the cup and getting Europa then there's your Partey fee right there.
Like Emi and can't blame him for wanting first team football but Leno is proven over a longer period so is the safer bet.
I would sell Leno, which we could get 40m for, there is no difference in quality between the two. If anything I prefer Martinez
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 1 minute ago
I would sell Leno, which we could get 40m for, there is no difference in quality between the two. If anything I prefer Martinez
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Who is offering £40m for Leno?
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 13 minutes ago
If we get Partey and Aouar partially because we sell Emi then, yeah, it is good business.
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When you're talking about close to or over 100 million. 15 mil ain't making a dent big enough to make losing the player in question, worth it.
No matter which way you cut it DJ, because of the naturally strong chance of Leno re-injuring himself early in the campaign after barely playing. This is bad business. We could be bringing in Messi wouldn't change the fact that if anything happens to Leno in the next couple of months, we're right up the creek straight away. We're gonna regret it, can just see it coming.
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 9 minutes ago
He was worth 2m a year ago. If we get 20m for him then with the 30m we got for winning the cup and getting Europa then there's your Partey fee right there.
Like Emi and can't blame him for wanting first team football but Leno is proven over a longer period so is the safer bet.
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Overwhelming thing "proven," right now is that Leno needs to learn how to do the things Emi can do well, that he can't do for sh !t. If he had any respect for the game, then he'd reluctantly sit at No 2. This season (or at least the start of it) and go learn it. Then take his spot back on genuine merit. This has only become an issue because he's too arrogant to accept he still has things to learn, despite being very talented. So has made a fuss about RIGHTLY staying No. 2 a little while. Soon enough he'll be refusing to be subbed, a la Kepa. As he clearly thinks he's in charge at AFC.
Arteta does not like being dictated to.
Case in point,
Ozil, Gouen and now Martinez.
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 13 minutes ago
If we get Partey and Aouar partially because we sell Emi then, yeah, it is good business.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When you're talking about close to or over 100 million. 15 mil ain't making a dent big enough to make losing the player in question, worth it.
No matter which way you cut it DJ, because of the naturally strong chance of Leno re-injuring himself early in the campaign after barely playing. This is bad business. We could be bringing in Messi wouldn't change the fact that if anything happens to Leno in the next couple of months, we're right up the creek straight away. We're gonna regret it, can just see it coming.
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And what if Macey comes in and performes? Nobody thought that Martinez could replace Leno when he got injured.
Macey is leaving as well.
Rumour is we are replacing Martinez with a keeper 4 years younger but twice the number of senior appearances (and just 15 less PL appearances).
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 7 minutes ago
Arteta does not like being dictated to.
Case in point,
Ozil, Gouen and now Martinez.
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Problem there is it's the strength of Emi's performances and their RESULTS dictate/d he should be No. 1 (at the moment). not the man himself. He just said he'd have to leave if dropped (he's obviously peaking now so MUST play, unlike Leno).
Asking the club to stand by him, his results and the trophy the helped bring back to AFC last season, is not dictating. THAT would be coming back from injury after watching someone else outperform you solidly. Then demanding your spot back when you can't perform like that yourself yet, so don't actually deserve the spot back yet. "Being dictated to," is exactly what Arteta has done here. But it's Leno, not Martinez who is the little dictator. If he wasn't, this wouldn't have become any issue at all before the Jan window.
Who has suggested Leno has demanded his place back? It is Emi making the demands, and to be fair for a 'keeper to demand he is number 1 after 15 PL games in 10 years is a bit much.
Leno was patient when he first came, didn't demand to be #1 and took his chance.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
Who has suggested Leno has demanded his place back? It is Emi making the demands, and to be fair for a 'keeper to demand he is number 1 after 15 PL games in 10 years is a bit much.
Leno was patient when he first came, didn't demand to be #1 and took his chance.
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The story I saw was about his injury return, not getting the 1 spot in the first place. Got spot done great, lost spot injured, replacement done BETTER. If someone else is playing better then that's who goes in the spot. Simple really, the best player at game-time, plays. And as long as Emi holds form and Leno can't command his area and defenders. The best player is Emi, even if Leno is the far more talented one.
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 4 hours, 4 minutes ago
I would sell Leno, which we could get 40m for, there is no difference in quality between the two. If anything I prefer Martinez
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We would be lucky to get £20M for Leno with the wages he’s on. Also if a better keeper in Emi is being sold for £20M, why would we get a bigger offer for an inferior player?
Leno is on £100k a week, Emi £20k. We could give Emi £60k a week and it would still save half of theit combined wages which could be used elsewhere.
I can see no reason why we should sell Emi and keep Leno.
comment by The Wonky Kronke (U16927)
posted 26 minutes ago
Leno is on £100k a week, Emi £20k. We could give Emi £60k a week and it would still save half of theit combined wages which could be used elsewhere.
I can see no reason why we should sell Emi and keep Leno.
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Someone already gave you a reason.. nobody is trying to buy Leno.
It's not great business, but if Martinez is trying to lay down the law in order to sign a new contract then I can understand why Arteta won't have it - he's drawing the line with Guendouzi and Ozil and now Martinez...
Selling Emi is actually a brilliant piece of business if we reinvest. We are a much stronger team losing Emi but adding Partey/Aouar.
Selling Martinez would most likely only finance half or less of one of those players, so we I don’t see the validity of that argument.
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posted on 11/9/20
Great business for Villa yeah.
posted on 11/9/20
If we get Partey and Aouar partially because we sell Emi then, yeah, it is good business.
posted on 11/9/20
He was worth 2m a year ago. If we get 20m for him then with the 30m we got for winning the cup and getting Europa then there's your Partey fee right there.
Like Emi and can't blame him for wanting first team football but Leno is proven over a longer period so is the safer bet.
posted on 11/9/20
I would sell Leno, which we could get 40m for, there is no difference in quality between the two. If anything I prefer Martinez
posted on 11/9/20
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 1 minute ago
I would sell Leno, which we could get 40m for, there is no difference in quality between the two. If anything I prefer Martinez
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Who is offering £40m for Leno?
posted on 11/9/20
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 13 minutes ago
If we get Partey and Aouar partially because we sell Emi then, yeah, it is good business.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When you're talking about close to or over 100 million. 15 mil ain't making a dent big enough to make losing the player in question, worth it.
No matter which way you cut it DJ, because of the naturally strong chance of Leno re-injuring himself early in the campaign after barely playing. This is bad business. We could be bringing in Messi wouldn't change the fact that if anything happens to Leno in the next couple of months, we're right up the creek straight away. We're gonna regret it, can just see it coming.
posted on 11/9/20
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 9 minutes ago
He was worth 2m a year ago. If we get 20m for him then with the 30m we got for winning the cup and getting Europa then there's your Partey fee right there.
Like Emi and can't blame him for wanting first team football but Leno is proven over a longer period so is the safer bet.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Overwhelming thing "proven," right now is that Leno needs to learn how to do the things Emi can do well, that he can't do for sh !t. If he had any respect for the game, then he'd reluctantly sit at No 2. This season (or at least the start of it) and go learn it. Then take his spot back on genuine merit. This has only become an issue because he's too arrogant to accept he still has things to learn, despite being very talented. So has made a fuss about RIGHTLY staying No. 2 a little while. Soon enough he'll be refusing to be subbed, a la Kepa. As he clearly thinks he's in charge at AFC.
posted on 11/9/20
Arteta does not like being dictated to.
Case in point,
Ozil, Gouen and now Martinez.
posted on 11/9/20
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 13 minutes ago
If we get Partey and Aouar partially because we sell Emi then, yeah, it is good business.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When you're talking about close to or over 100 million. 15 mil ain't making a dent big enough to make losing the player in question, worth it.
No matter which way you cut it DJ, because of the naturally strong chance of Leno re-injuring himself early in the campaign after barely playing. This is bad business. We could be bringing in Messi wouldn't change the fact that if anything happens to Leno in the next couple of months, we're right up the creek straight away. We're gonna regret it, can just see it coming.
---------------------------------------------
And what if Macey comes in and performes? Nobody thought that Martinez could replace Leno when he got injured.
posted on 11/9/20
Macey is leaving as well.
posted on 11/9/20
Rumour is we are replacing Martinez with a keeper 4 years younger but twice the number of senior appearances (and just 15 less PL appearances).
posted on 11/9/20
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 7 minutes ago
Arteta does not like being dictated to.
Case in point,
Ozil, Gouen and now Martinez.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Problem there is it's the strength of Emi's performances and their RESULTS dictate/d he should be No. 1 (at the moment). not the man himself. He just said he'd have to leave if dropped (he's obviously peaking now so MUST play, unlike Leno).
Asking the club to stand by him, his results and the trophy the helped bring back to AFC last season, is not dictating. THAT would be coming back from injury after watching someone else outperform you solidly. Then demanding your spot back when you can't perform like that yourself yet, so don't actually deserve the spot back yet. "Being dictated to," is exactly what Arteta has done here. But it's Leno, not Martinez who is the little dictator. If he wasn't, this wouldn't have become any issue at all before the Jan window.
posted on 11/9/20
Who has suggested Leno has demanded his place back? It is Emi making the demands, and to be fair for a 'keeper to demand he is number 1 after 15 PL games in 10 years is a bit much.
Leno was patient when he first came, didn't demand to be #1 and took his chance.
posted on 11/9/20
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
Who has suggested Leno has demanded his place back? It is Emi making the demands, and to be fair for a 'keeper to demand he is number 1 after 15 PL games in 10 years is a bit much.
Leno was patient when he first came, didn't demand to be #1 and took his chance.
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The story I saw was about his injury return, not getting the 1 spot in the first place. Got spot done great, lost spot injured, replacement done BETTER. If someone else is playing better then that's who goes in the spot. Simple really, the best player at game-time, plays. And as long as Emi holds form and Leno can't command his area and defenders. The best player is Emi, even if Leno is the far more talented one.
posted on 11/9/20
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 4 hours, 4 minutes ago
I would sell Leno, which we could get 40m for, there is no difference in quality between the two. If anything I prefer Martinez
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We would be lucky to get £20M for Leno with the wages he’s on. Also if a better keeper in Emi is being sold for £20M, why would we get a bigger offer for an inferior player?
posted on 11/9/20
Leno is on £100k a week, Emi £20k. We could give Emi £60k a week and it would still save half of theit combined wages which could be used elsewhere.
I can see no reason why we should sell Emi and keep Leno.
posted on 11/9/20
comment by The Wonky Kronke (U16927)
posted 26 minutes ago
Leno is on £100k a week, Emi £20k. We could give Emi £60k a week and it would still save half of theit combined wages which could be used elsewhere.
I can see no reason why we should sell Emi and keep Leno.
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Someone already gave you a reason.. nobody is trying to buy Leno.
posted on 11/9/20
It's not great business, but if Martinez is trying to lay down the law in order to sign a new contract then I can understand why Arteta won't have it - he's drawing the line with Guendouzi and Ozil and now Martinez...
posted on 12/9/20
Selling Emi is actually a brilliant piece of business if we reinvest. We are a much stronger team losing Emi but adding Partey/Aouar.
posted on 12/9/20
Selling Martinez would most likely only finance half or less of one of those players, so we I don’t see the validity of that argument.
posted on 27/6/21
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