comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 6 hours, 20 minutes ago
Having read most of these comments, I am now asking myself the question: "Why do we even need an "off-side rule"?
Often "off-side" is a cover up for poor defending and prevents more creative, exciting and attacking football.
Now we find ourselves discussing elbows, shoulders, toe nails etc. etc. I know that some traditionalists will have seizures at this thought, but perhaps the game of football (aka. soccer) would be better off without it? I suspect that most game officials might also agree?
With regards to when is a ball out of play, the answer is simple, it is out of play as soon as it goes out of play and cannot come back into play! Just like when the ball crosses the goal line it is a goal, and cannot be dragged out.
If anyone bothers to respond, please stay on topic. The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time.
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I completely disagree that offside is a cover for poor defending. Offside is a law in the game and so it is taken into account. Attackers know this and need to play to the rules.
If you get rid of it then attackers just stand in the penalty area and wait for the ball to be kicked up to them.
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 6 hours, 51 minutes ago
Having read most of these comments, I am now asking myself the question: "Why do we even need an "off-side rule"?
Often "off-side" is a cover up for poor defending and prevents more creative, exciting and attacking football.
Now we find ourselves discussing elbows, shoulders, toe nails etc. etc. I know that some traditionalists will have seizures at this thought, but perhaps the game of football (aka. soccer) would be better off without it? I suspect that most game officials might also agree?
With regards to when is a ball out of play, the answer is simple, it is out of play as soon as it goes out of play and cannot come back into play! Just like when the ball crosses the goal line it is a goal, and cannot be dragged out.
If anyone bothers to respond, please stay on topic. The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time.
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Very good question, I have asked myself the same question a few times. After the original rules by the game's founding fathers, all subsequent rules should only be introduced to solve a specific problem. So exactly what problem was the offside rule introduced to solve?
They only introduced the croosbar too replace a length of rope becuse the tallest guy in the team wud hold the rope higher n make the gol larger
comment by 4star (U22472)
posted 5 minutes ago
They only introduced the croosbar too replace a length of rope becuse the tallest guy in the team wud hold the rope higher n make the gol larger
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Is that actually true?
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 6 hours, 20 minutes ago
Having read most of these comments, I am now asking myself the question: "Why do we even need an "off-side rule"?
Often "off-side" is a cover up for poor defending and prevents more creative, exciting and attacking football.
Now we find ourselves discussing elbows, shoulders, toe nails etc. etc. I know that some traditionalists will have seizures at this thought, but perhaps the game of football (aka. soccer) would be better off without it? I suspect that most game officials might also agree?
With regards to when is a ball out of play, the answer is simple, it is out of play as soon as it goes out of play and cannot come back into play! Just like when the ball crosses the goal line it is a goal, and cannot be dragged out.
If anyone bothers to respond, please stay on topic. The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I completely disagree that offside is a cover for poor defending. Offside is a law in the game and so it is taken into account. Attackers know this and need to play to the rules.
If you get rid of it then attackers just stand in the penalty area and wait for the ball to be kicked up to them.
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Agree that it is a law of the game, but with the skill and pace of our current game it is increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way.
Also, I'm not suggesting that we eliminate the defensive players. New line-up configurations could handle attackers who merely hang around the other teams penalty area if that were to happen.
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 7 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 6 hours, 20 minutes ago
Having read most of these comments, I am now asking myself the question: "Why do we even need an "off-side rule"?
Often "off-side" is a cover up for poor defending and prevents more creative, exciting and attacking football.
Now we find ourselves discussing elbows, shoulders, toe nails etc. etc. I know that some traditionalists will have seizures at this thought, but perhaps the game of football (aka. soccer) would be better off without it? I suspect that most game officials might also agree?
With regards to when is a ball out of play, the answer is simple, it is out of play as soon as it goes out of play and cannot come back into play! Just like when the ball crosses the goal line it is a goal, and cannot be dragged out.
If anyone bothers to respond, please stay on topic. The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I completely disagree that offside is a cover for poor defending. Offside is a law in the game and so it is taken into account. Attackers know this and need to play to the rules.
If you get rid of it then attackers just stand in the penalty area and wait for the ball to be kicked up to them.
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Agree that it is a law of the game, but with the skill and pace of our current game it is increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way.
Also, I'm not suggesting that we eliminate the defensive players. New line-up configurations could handle attackers who merely hang around the other teams penalty area if that were to happen.
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I never said it would eliminate defensive players, what ot would do is force defensive players to also stand in their own box for the whole match, which would make huges amount of space in the middle of the pitch where players can just run with no challenges.
Offside law is not increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way, it hasn't functionally changed since 1990. All that has changed recently is that VAR has allowed it to be applied more accurately and consistently.
Why should the advantage go to the attacker?? Never understood this. Defending is as much an art as attacking. If you defend well why shouldn't the advantage go to you??
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 41 minutes ago
Why should the advantage go to the attacker?? Never understood this. Defending is as much an art as attacking. If you defend well why shouldn't the advantage go to you??
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Spoken like a defender
Advantage goes with the attacker to encourage attacking which in turn, usually creates a more exciting game overall. Favouring defence only serves to make teams play more defensively minded. A curse to fast-paced, entertaining football.
My 3 all time favorite games finished 1-0, 1-0 and 2-1
All the gols came in last ten minutes of the games.
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 4 minutes ago
*goals
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What's-a matter you? Hey! Gotta no respect?
Lotsa gols does not always mean a grate game is played.
In fact, u can argue that the more scored, the lower the quality of the pkayets/game.
And-a mama used to say all-a time " the lower the quality of the pkayets"
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 10 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 7 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 6 hours, 20 minutes ago
Having read most of these comments, I am now asking myself the question: "Why do we even need an "off-side rule"?
Often "off-side" is a cover up for poor defending and prevents more creative, exciting and attacking football.
Now we find ourselves discussing elbows, shoulders, toe nails etc. etc. I know that some traditionalists will have seizures at this thought, but perhaps the game of football (aka. soccer) would be better off without it? I suspect that most game officials might also agree?
With regards to when is a ball out of play, the answer is simple, it is out of play as soon as it goes out of play and cannot come back into play! Just like when the ball crosses the goal line it is a goal, and cannot be dragged out.
If anyone bothers to respond, please stay on topic. The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I completely disagree that offside is a cover for poor defending. Offside is a law in the game and so it is taken into account. Attackers know this and need to play to the rules.
If you get rid of it then attackers just stand in the penalty area and wait for the ball to be kicked up to them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree that it is a law of the game, but with the skill and pace of our current game it is increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way.
Also, I'm not suggesting that we eliminate the defensive players. New line-up configurations could handle attackers who merely hang around the other teams penalty area if that were to happen.
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I never said it would eliminate defensive players, what ot would do is force defensive players to also stand in their own box for the whole match, which would make huges amount of space in the middle of the pitch where players can just run with no challenges.
Offside law is not increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way, it hasn't functionally changed since 1990. All that has changed recently is that VAR has allowed it to be applied more accurately and consistently.
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So does your last sentence mean that for decades that the rule was poorly applied? But then for the past 30 years there were few complaints from managers or players?? Why are managers and many players still questioning this archaic rule?
My mind is still open to see this rule go away, yours is closed. Good-bye and good luck!
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 10 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 7 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 6 hours, 20 minutes ago
Having read most of these comments, I am now asking myself the question: "Why do we even need an "off-side rule"?
Often "off-side" is a cover up for poor defending and prevents more creative, exciting and attacking football.
Now we find ourselves discussing elbows, shoulders, toe nails etc. etc. I know that some traditionalists will have seizures at this thought, but perhaps the game of football (aka. soccer) would be better off without it? I suspect that most game officials might also agree?
With regards to when is a ball out of play, the answer is simple, it is out of play as soon as it goes out of play and cannot come back into play! Just like when the ball crosses the goal line it is a goal, and cannot be dragged out.
If anyone bothers to respond, please stay on topic. The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I completely disagree that offside is a cover for poor defending. Offside is a law in the game and so it is taken into account. Attackers know this and need to play to the rules.
If you get rid of it then attackers just stand in the penalty area and wait for the ball to be kicked up to them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree that it is a law of the game, but with the skill and pace of our current game it is increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way.
Also, I'm not suggesting that we eliminate the defensive players. New line-up configurations could handle attackers who merely hang around the other teams penalty area if that were to happen.
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I never said it would eliminate defensive players, what ot would do is force defensive players to also stand in their own box for the whole match, which would make huges amount of space in the middle of the pitch where players can just run with no challenges.
Offside law is not increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way, it hasn't functionally changed since 1990. All that has changed recently is that VAR has allowed it to be applied more accurately and consistently.
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So does your last sentence mean that for decades that the rule was poorly applied? But then for the past 30 years there were few complaints from managers or players?? Why are managers and many players still questioning this archaic rule?
My mind is still open to see this rule go away, yours is closed. Good-bye and good luck!
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I notice that your very first post ended with "The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time"
I also note that, despite me sticking strictly to the topic and not being insulting whatsoever, your most recent post ended with "My mind is still open to see this rule go away, yours is closed. Good-bye and good luck".
I guess this means you are in that small group that thrive in vulgarity and personal insults. The hypocrisy is hilarious.
As to your post, no - it doesn't mean the rule was poorly applied. How you have reached that leap in logic is a mystery so do feel free to explain. Changing a law doesn't mean the law was being poorly applied before, it means that they decided that a change to the law was needed.
"Why are managers and many players still questioning this archaic rule?"
Please provide some direct quotes from many players or managers advocating for the complete removal of the offside law. Note that this doesn't mean people suggesting it might be amended, since you were talking about scrapping it completely.
comment by Grand Cannon (U18697)
posted 2 days, 12 hours ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 4 hours, 46 minutes ago
Instead of 3 I'd replace throw ins with kick ins but you can only hit it along the ground. Throw ins can be a disadvantage sometimes with teams losing possession
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What do you mean by "hit it along the ground "? I don't understand that. You mean you can't hit a high ball into the opposition box, you can only hit a grounder?
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You could only pass is along the floor and not chip it in the air, so you can pass it into teammates feet but it wouldn't be as big an advantage as a free kick
All your teammates would be tightly marked if you have to play it along the floor. Doesn't sound practicable to me tbh.
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 20 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 10 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 7 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 6 hours, 20 minutes ago
Having read most of these comments, I am now asking myself the question: "Why do we even need an "off-side rule"?
Often "off-side" is a cover up for poor defending and prevents more creative, exciting and attacking football.
Now we find ourselves discussing elbows, shoulders, toe nails etc. etc. I know that some traditionalists will have seizures at this thought, but perhaps the game of football (aka. soccer) would be better off without it? I suspect that most game officials might also agree?
With regards to when is a ball out of play, the answer is simple, it is out of play as soon as it goes out of play and cannot come back into play! Just like when the ball crosses the goal line it is a goal, and cannot be dragged out.
If anyone bothers to respond, please stay on topic. The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I completely disagree that offside is a cover for poor defending. Offside is a law in the game and so it is taken into account. Attackers know this and need to play to the rules.
If you get rid of it then attackers just stand in the penalty area and wait for the ball to be kicked up to them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree that it is a law of the game, but with the skill and pace of our current game it is increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way.
Also, I'm not suggesting that we eliminate the defensive players. New line-up configurations could handle attackers who merely hang around the other teams penalty area if that were to happen.
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I never said it would eliminate defensive players, what ot would do is force defensive players to also stand in their own box for the whole match, which would make huges amount of space in the middle of the pitch where players can just run with no challenges.
Offside law is not increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way, it hasn't functionally changed since 1990. All that has changed recently is that VAR has allowed it to be applied more accurately and consistently.
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So does your last sentence mean that for decades that the rule was poorly applied? But then for the past 30 years there were few complaints from managers or players?? Why are managers and many players still questioning this archaic rule?
My mind is still open to see this rule go away, yours is closed. Good-bye and good luck!
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I notice that your very first post ended with "The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time"
I also note that, despite me sticking strictly to the topic and not being insulting whatsoever, your most recent post ended with "My mind is still open to see this rule go away, yours is closed. Good-bye and good luck".
I guess this means you are in that small group that thrive in vulgarity and personal insults. The hypocrisy is hilarious.
As to your post, no - it doesn't mean the rule was poorly applied. How you have reached that leap in logic is a mystery so do feel free to explain. Changing a law doesn't mean the law was being poorly applied before, it means that they decided that a change to the law was needed.
"Why are managers and many players still questioning this archaic rule?"
Please provide some direct quotes from many players or managers advocating for the complete removal of the offside law. Note that this doesn't mean people suggesting it might be amended, since you were talking about scrapping it completely.
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Thank-you for educating me in the fact that "good-bye and/or good luck" were personal insults and/or vulgarity!
Now please go troll someone else!
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 2 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 20 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 10 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 7 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 6 hours, 20 minutes ago
Having read most of these comments, I am now asking myself the question: "Why do we even need an "off-side rule"?
Often "off-side" is a cover up for poor defending and prevents more creative, exciting and attacking football.
Now we find ourselves discussing elbows, shoulders, toe nails etc. etc. I know that some traditionalists will have seizures at this thought, but perhaps the game of football (aka. soccer) would be better off without it? I suspect that most game officials might also agree?
With regards to when is a ball out of play, the answer is simple, it is out of play as soon as it goes out of play and cannot come back into play! Just like when the ball crosses the goal line it is a goal, and cannot be dragged out.
If anyone bothers to respond, please stay on topic. The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I completely disagree that offside is a cover for poor defending. Offside is a law in the game and so it is taken into account. Attackers know this and need to play to the rules.
If you get rid of it then attackers just stand in the penalty area and wait for the ball to be kicked up to them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree that it is a law of the game, but with the skill and pace of our current game it is increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way.
Also, I'm not suggesting that we eliminate the defensive players. New line-up configurations could handle attackers who merely hang around the other teams penalty area if that were to happen.
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I never said it would eliminate defensive players, what ot would do is force defensive players to also stand in their own box for the whole match, which would make huges amount of space in the middle of the pitch where players can just run with no challenges.
Offside law is not increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way, it hasn't functionally changed since 1990. All that has changed recently is that VAR has allowed it to be applied more accurately and consistently.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
So does your last sentence mean that for decades that the rule was poorly applied? But then for the past 30 years there were few complaints from managers or players?? Why are managers and many players still questioning this archaic rule?
My mind is still open to see this rule go away, yours is closed. Good-bye and good luck!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I notice that your very first post ended with "The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time"
I also note that, despite me sticking strictly to the topic and not being insulting whatsoever, your most recent post ended with "My mind is still open to see this rule go away, yours is closed. Good-bye and good luck".
I guess this means you are in that small group that thrive in vulgarity and personal insults. The hypocrisy is hilarious.
As to your post, no - it doesn't mean the rule was poorly applied. How you have reached that leap in logic is a mystery so do feel free to explain. Changing a law doesn't mean the law was being poorly applied before, it means that they decided that a change to the law was needed.
"Why are managers and many players still questioning this archaic rule?"
Please provide some direct quotes from many players or managers advocating for the complete removal of the offside law. Note that this doesn't mean people suggesting it might be amended, since you were talking about scrapping it completely.
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Thank-you for educating me in the fact that "good-bye and/or good luck" were personal insults and/or vulgarity!
Now please go troll someone else!
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No, accusing someone of being closed-minded is a personal insults. Although you are welcome for the education.
Still waiting on those managers and players that all want the offside law to be scrapped.
Kicks ins are a non starter for me. Teams will aim to get 'kicks in' in the opponents half for cheap shots at goals. The game will end up as a long ball game. Surprised Wenger didn't think this one through.
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posted on 10/10/20
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 6 hours, 20 minutes ago
Having read most of these comments, I am now asking myself the question: "Why do we even need an "off-side rule"?
Often "off-side" is a cover up for poor defending and prevents more creative, exciting and attacking football.
Now we find ourselves discussing elbows, shoulders, toe nails etc. etc. I know that some traditionalists will have seizures at this thought, but perhaps the game of football (aka. soccer) would be better off without it? I suspect that most game officials might also agree?
With regards to when is a ball out of play, the answer is simple, it is out of play as soon as it goes out of play and cannot come back into play! Just like when the ball crosses the goal line it is a goal, and cannot be dragged out.
If anyone bothers to respond, please stay on topic. The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I completely disagree that offside is a cover for poor defending. Offside is a law in the game and so it is taken into account. Attackers know this and need to play to the rules.
If you get rid of it then attackers just stand in the penalty area and wait for the ball to be kicked up to them.
posted on 10/10/20
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 6 hours, 51 minutes ago
Having read most of these comments, I am now asking myself the question: "Why do we even need an "off-side rule"?
Often "off-side" is a cover up for poor defending and prevents more creative, exciting and attacking football.
Now we find ourselves discussing elbows, shoulders, toe nails etc. etc. I know that some traditionalists will have seizures at this thought, but perhaps the game of football (aka. soccer) would be better off without it? I suspect that most game officials might also agree?
With regards to when is a ball out of play, the answer is simple, it is out of play as soon as it goes out of play and cannot come back into play! Just like when the ball crosses the goal line it is a goal, and cannot be dragged out.
If anyone bothers to respond, please stay on topic. The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Very good question, I have asked myself the same question a few times. After the original rules by the game's founding fathers, all subsequent rules should only be introduced to solve a specific problem. So exactly what problem was the offside rule introduced to solve?
posted on 10/10/20
posted on 10/10/20
They only introduced the croosbar too replace a length of rope becuse the tallest guy in the team wud hold the rope higher n make the gol larger
posted on 10/10/20
comment by 4star (U22472)
posted 5 minutes ago
They only introduced the croosbar too replace a length of rope becuse the tallest guy in the team wud hold the rope higher n make the gol larger
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Is that actually true?
posted on 11/10/20
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 6 hours, 20 minutes ago
Having read most of these comments, I am now asking myself the question: "Why do we even need an "off-side rule"?
Often "off-side" is a cover up for poor defending and prevents more creative, exciting and attacking football.
Now we find ourselves discussing elbows, shoulders, toe nails etc. etc. I know that some traditionalists will have seizures at this thought, but perhaps the game of football (aka. soccer) would be better off without it? I suspect that most game officials might also agree?
With regards to when is a ball out of play, the answer is simple, it is out of play as soon as it goes out of play and cannot come back into play! Just like when the ball crosses the goal line it is a goal, and cannot be dragged out.
If anyone bothers to respond, please stay on topic. The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I completely disagree that offside is a cover for poor defending. Offside is a law in the game and so it is taken into account. Attackers know this and need to play to the rules.
If you get rid of it then attackers just stand in the penalty area and wait for the ball to be kicked up to them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree that it is a law of the game, but with the skill and pace of our current game it is increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way.
Also, I'm not suggesting that we eliminate the defensive players. New line-up configurations could handle attackers who merely hang around the other teams penalty area if that were to happen.
posted on 11/10/20
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 7 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 6 hours, 20 minutes ago
Having read most of these comments, I am now asking myself the question: "Why do we even need an "off-side rule"?
Often "off-side" is a cover up for poor defending and prevents more creative, exciting and attacking football.
Now we find ourselves discussing elbows, shoulders, toe nails etc. etc. I know that some traditionalists will have seizures at this thought, but perhaps the game of football (aka. soccer) would be better off without it? I suspect that most game officials might also agree?
With regards to when is a ball out of play, the answer is simple, it is out of play as soon as it goes out of play and cannot come back into play! Just like when the ball crosses the goal line it is a goal, and cannot be dragged out.
If anyone bothers to respond, please stay on topic. The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I completely disagree that offside is a cover for poor defending. Offside is a law in the game and so it is taken into account. Attackers know this and need to play to the rules.
If you get rid of it then attackers just stand in the penalty area and wait for the ball to be kicked up to them.
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Agree that it is a law of the game, but with the skill and pace of our current game it is increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way.
Also, I'm not suggesting that we eliminate the defensive players. New line-up configurations could handle attackers who merely hang around the other teams penalty area if that were to happen.
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I never said it would eliminate defensive players, what ot would do is force defensive players to also stand in their own box for the whole match, which would make huges amount of space in the middle of the pitch where players can just run with no challenges.
Offside law is not increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way, it hasn't functionally changed since 1990. All that has changed recently is that VAR has allowed it to be applied more accurately and consistently.
posted on 11/10/20
Why should the advantage go to the attacker?? Never understood this. Defending is as much an art as attacking. If you defend well why shouldn't the advantage go to you??
posted on 11/10/20
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 41 minutes ago
Why should the advantage go to the attacker?? Never understood this. Defending is as much an art as attacking. If you defend well why shouldn't the advantage go to you??
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Spoken like a defender
Advantage goes with the attacker to encourage attacking which in turn, usually creates a more exciting game overall. Favouring defence only serves to make teams play more defensively minded. A curse to fast-paced, entertaining football.
posted on 11/10/20
My 3 all time favorite games finished 1-0, 1-0 and 2-1
All the gols came in last ten minutes of the games.
posted on 11/10/20
*goals
posted on 11/10/20
Thats whut i said
posted on 11/10/20
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 4 minutes ago
*goals
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What's-a matter you? Hey! Gotta no respect?
posted on 11/10/20
Oh. Shuddupayaface.
posted on 11/10/20
posted on 11/10/20
Lotsa gols does not always mean a grate game is played.
In fact, u can argue that the more scored, the lower the quality of the pkayets/game.
posted on 11/10/20
And-a mama used to say all-a time " the lower the quality of the pkayets"
posted on 11/10/20
Defenders have rites to
posted on 11/10/20
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 10 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 7 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 6 hours, 20 minutes ago
Having read most of these comments, I am now asking myself the question: "Why do we even need an "off-side rule"?
Often "off-side" is a cover up for poor defending and prevents more creative, exciting and attacking football.
Now we find ourselves discussing elbows, shoulders, toe nails etc. etc. I know that some traditionalists will have seizures at this thought, but perhaps the game of football (aka. soccer) would be better off without it? I suspect that most game officials might also agree?
With regards to when is a ball out of play, the answer is simple, it is out of play as soon as it goes out of play and cannot come back into play! Just like when the ball crosses the goal line it is a goal, and cannot be dragged out.
If anyone bothers to respond, please stay on topic. The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I completely disagree that offside is a cover for poor defending. Offside is a law in the game and so it is taken into account. Attackers know this and need to play to the rules.
If you get rid of it then attackers just stand in the penalty area and wait for the ball to be kicked up to them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree that it is a law of the game, but with the skill and pace of our current game it is increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way.
Also, I'm not suggesting that we eliminate the defensive players. New line-up configurations could handle attackers who merely hang around the other teams penalty area if that were to happen.
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I never said it would eliminate defensive players, what ot would do is force defensive players to also stand in their own box for the whole match, which would make huges amount of space in the middle of the pitch where players can just run with no challenges.
Offside law is not increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way, it hasn't functionally changed since 1990. All that has changed recently is that VAR has allowed it to be applied more accurately and consistently.
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So does your last sentence mean that for decades that the rule was poorly applied? But then for the past 30 years there were few complaints from managers or players?? Why are managers and many players still questioning this archaic rule?
My mind is still open to see this rule go away, yours is closed. Good-bye and good luck!
posted on 11/10/20
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 10 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 7 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 6 hours, 20 minutes ago
Having read most of these comments, I am now asking myself the question: "Why do we even need an "off-side rule"?
Often "off-side" is a cover up for poor defending and prevents more creative, exciting and attacking football.
Now we find ourselves discussing elbows, shoulders, toe nails etc. etc. I know that some traditionalists will have seizures at this thought, but perhaps the game of football (aka. soccer) would be better off without it? I suspect that most game officials might also agree?
With regards to when is a ball out of play, the answer is simple, it is out of play as soon as it goes out of play and cannot come back into play! Just like when the ball crosses the goal line it is a goal, and cannot be dragged out.
If anyone bothers to respond, please stay on topic. The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time.
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I completely disagree that offside is a cover for poor defending. Offside is a law in the game and so it is taken into account. Attackers know this and need to play to the rules.
If you get rid of it then attackers just stand in the penalty area and wait for the ball to be kicked up to them.
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Agree that it is a law of the game, but with the skill and pace of our current game it is increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way.
Also, I'm not suggesting that we eliminate the defensive players. New line-up configurations could handle attackers who merely hang around the other teams penalty area if that were to happen.
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I never said it would eliminate defensive players, what ot would do is force defensive players to also stand in their own box for the whole match, which would make huges amount of space in the middle of the pitch where players can just run with no challenges.
Offside law is not increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way, it hasn't functionally changed since 1990. All that has changed recently is that VAR has allowed it to be applied more accurately and consistently.
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So does your last sentence mean that for decades that the rule was poorly applied? But then for the past 30 years there were few complaints from managers or players?? Why are managers and many players still questioning this archaic rule?
My mind is still open to see this rule go away, yours is closed. Good-bye and good luck!
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I notice that your very first post ended with "The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time"
I also note that, despite me sticking strictly to the topic and not being insulting whatsoever, your most recent post ended with "My mind is still open to see this rule go away, yours is closed. Good-bye and good luck".
I guess this means you are in that small group that thrive in vulgarity and personal insults. The hypocrisy is hilarious.
As to your post, no - it doesn't mean the rule was poorly applied. How you have reached that leap in logic is a mystery so do feel free to explain. Changing a law doesn't mean the law was being poorly applied before, it means that they decided that a change to the law was needed.
"Why are managers and many players still questioning this archaic rule?"
Please provide some direct quotes from many players or managers advocating for the complete removal of the offside law. Note that this doesn't mean people suggesting it might be amended, since you were talking about scrapping it completely.
posted on 12/10/20
comment by Grand Cannon (U18697)
posted 2 days, 12 hours ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 4 hours, 46 minutes ago
Instead of 3 I'd replace throw ins with kick ins but you can only hit it along the ground. Throw ins can be a disadvantage sometimes with teams losing possession
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What do you mean by "hit it along the ground "? I don't understand that. You mean you can't hit a high ball into the opposition box, you can only hit a grounder?
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You could only pass is along the floor and not chip it in the air, so you can pass it into teammates feet but it wouldn't be as big an advantage as a free kick
posted on 12/10/20
All your teammates would be tightly marked if you have to play it along the floor. Doesn't sound practicable to me tbh.
posted on 12/10/20
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 20 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 10 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 7 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 6 hours, 20 minutes ago
Having read most of these comments, I am now asking myself the question: "Why do we even need an "off-side rule"?
Often "off-side" is a cover up for poor defending and prevents more creative, exciting and attacking football.
Now we find ourselves discussing elbows, shoulders, toe nails etc. etc. I know that some traditionalists will have seizures at this thought, but perhaps the game of football (aka. soccer) would be better off without it? I suspect that most game officials might also agree?
With regards to when is a ball out of play, the answer is simple, it is out of play as soon as it goes out of play and cannot come back into play! Just like when the ball crosses the goal line it is a goal, and cannot be dragged out.
If anyone bothers to respond, please stay on topic. The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time.
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I completely disagree that offside is a cover for poor defending. Offside is a law in the game and so it is taken into account. Attackers know this and need to play to the rules.
If you get rid of it then attackers just stand in the penalty area and wait for the ball to be kicked up to them.
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Agree that it is a law of the game, but with the skill and pace of our current game it is increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way.
Also, I'm not suggesting that we eliminate the defensive players. New line-up configurations could handle attackers who merely hang around the other teams penalty area if that were to happen.
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I never said it would eliminate defensive players, what ot would do is force defensive players to also stand in their own box for the whole match, which would make huges amount of space in the middle of the pitch where players can just run with no challenges.
Offside law is not increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way, it hasn't functionally changed since 1990. All that has changed recently is that VAR has allowed it to be applied more accurately and consistently.
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So does your last sentence mean that for decades that the rule was poorly applied? But then for the past 30 years there were few complaints from managers or players?? Why are managers and many players still questioning this archaic rule?
My mind is still open to see this rule go away, yours is closed. Good-bye and good luck!
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I notice that your very first post ended with "The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time"
I also note that, despite me sticking strictly to the topic and not being insulting whatsoever, your most recent post ended with "My mind is still open to see this rule go away, yours is closed. Good-bye and good luck".
I guess this means you are in that small group that thrive in vulgarity and personal insults. The hypocrisy is hilarious.
As to your post, no - it doesn't mean the rule was poorly applied. How you have reached that leap in logic is a mystery so do feel free to explain. Changing a law doesn't mean the law was being poorly applied before, it means that they decided that a change to the law was needed.
"Why are managers and many players still questioning this archaic rule?"
Please provide some direct quotes from many players or managers advocating for the complete removal of the offside law. Note that this doesn't mean people suggesting it might be amended, since you were talking about scrapping it completely.
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Thank-you for educating me in the fact that "good-bye and/or good luck" were personal insults and/or vulgarity!
Now please go troll someone else!
posted on 12/10/20
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 2 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 20 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 10 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 7 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 6 hours, 20 minutes ago
Having read most of these comments, I am now asking myself the question: "Why do we even need an "off-side rule"?
Often "off-side" is a cover up for poor defending and prevents more creative, exciting and attacking football.
Now we find ourselves discussing elbows, shoulders, toe nails etc. etc. I know that some traditionalists will have seizures at this thought, but perhaps the game of football (aka. soccer) would be better off without it? I suspect that most game officials might also agree?
With regards to when is a ball out of play, the answer is simple, it is out of play as soon as it goes out of play and cannot come back into play! Just like when the ball crosses the goal line it is a goal, and cannot be dragged out.
If anyone bothers to respond, please stay on topic. The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time.
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I completely disagree that offside is a cover for poor defending. Offside is a law in the game and so it is taken into account. Attackers know this and need to play to the rules.
If you get rid of it then attackers just stand in the penalty area and wait for the ball to be kicked up to them.
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Agree that it is a law of the game, but with the skill and pace of our current game it is increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way.
Also, I'm not suggesting that we eliminate the defensive players. New line-up configurations could handle attackers who merely hang around the other teams penalty area if that were to happen.
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I never said it would eliminate defensive players, what ot would do is force defensive players to also stand in their own box for the whole match, which would make huges amount of space in the middle of the pitch where players can just run with no challenges.
Offside law is not increasingly difficult to apply in an understandable way, it hasn't functionally changed since 1990. All that has changed recently is that VAR has allowed it to be applied more accurately and consistently.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
So does your last sentence mean that for decades that the rule was poorly applied? But then for the past 30 years there were few complaints from managers or players?? Why are managers and many players still questioning this archaic rule?
My mind is still open to see this rule go away, yours is closed. Good-bye and good luck!
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I notice that your very first post ended with "The small group who thrive on personal insults and vulgarity need not waste their time"
I also note that, despite me sticking strictly to the topic and not being insulting whatsoever, your most recent post ended with "My mind is still open to see this rule go away, yours is closed. Good-bye and good luck".
I guess this means you are in that small group that thrive in vulgarity and personal insults. The hypocrisy is hilarious.
As to your post, no - it doesn't mean the rule was poorly applied. How you have reached that leap in logic is a mystery so do feel free to explain. Changing a law doesn't mean the law was being poorly applied before, it means that they decided that a change to the law was needed.
"Why are managers and many players still questioning this archaic rule?"
Please provide some direct quotes from many players or managers advocating for the complete removal of the offside law. Note that this doesn't mean people suggesting it might be amended, since you were talking about scrapping it completely.
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Thank-you for educating me in the fact that "good-bye and/or good luck" were personal insults and/or vulgarity!
Now please go troll someone else!
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No, accusing someone of being closed-minded is a personal insults. Although you are welcome for the education.
Still waiting on those managers and players that all want the offside law to be scrapped.
posted on 13/10/20
Kicks ins are a non starter for me. Teams will aim to get 'kicks in' in the opponents half for cheap shots at goals. The game will end up as a long ball game. Surprised Wenger didn't think this one through.
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