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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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What's this based on?
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How good they are.
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Gathered that. What have you used to quantify how good they are?
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Their Results?
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Domestically or in competition with eachother? Over how many seasons?
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Maybe like 2 or 3 seasons? And both Domestic and European competitions, just all of their results in general.

comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 39 seconds ago
Barcelona being massively overrated by many.

1. Bayern
2. Liverpool
3. PSG
4. City
5. Real Madrid
Big gap
6. Barcelona
7. Atletico
8. Juventus
9. Sevilla
10. Dortmund


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There's no big gap between Liverpool and Atletico. Atletico bent Liverpool over and furrrked their brains out home and away last season.

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They beat you home and away. Nothing freak about it.

comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
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comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
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comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 10 minutes ago
1. Bayern
2. Liverpool
3. Barcelona
4. Man City
5. Real Madrid
6. PSG
7. Atletico
8. Sevilla
9. Leipzig
10. Juventus
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If Liverpool are the second best team in that table, which I think is laughable, where is Aston Villa who thrashed Liverpool 7-2?

Fair comment I think
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I'm sure you do think it is a fair comment. I think it is an attempted wum and shows a lack of understanding of how continuous rankings work.

Those ranking are the current world rankings from clubelo.com. if you don't agree then I suggest you contact them and explain why your system is better.
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I think he's jealous because no mention of spurs
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They come in at 14th. Marginally ahead of Chelsea and United.

comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 22 minutes ago
What's this based on?
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How good they are.
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Gathered that. What have you used to quantify how good they are?
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Their Results?
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Domestically or in competition with eachother? Over how many seasons?
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Maybe like 2 or 3 seasons? And both Domestic and European competitions, just all of their results in general.
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So with that in mind why are Liverpool rated so low when they've reached 2 CL finals, winning 1 and won their domestic league in that stretch?

Based on 2020

1) Bayern
2) PSG
3) Real
4) Juventus
5) Arsenal

The rest all a much of a muchness.

Has nobody mentioned England yet? They’ve just beaten the world’s no.1 team.

1) England
2) Aston Villa
3) Liverpool
4) Belgium
5) Bayern Munich

comment by 8===D-vock* (U22339)
posted 3 minutes ago
Has nobody mentioned England yet? They’ve just beaten the world’s no.1 team.

1) England
2) Aston Villa
3) Liverpool
4) Belgium
5) Bayern Munich
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Surely Hoffenheim are above Bayern? They beat them 4-1.

comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 22 minutes ago
What's this based on?
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How good they are.
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Gathered that. What have you used to quantify how good they are?
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Their Results?
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Domestically or in competition with eachother? Over how many seasons?
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Maybe like 2 or 3 seasons? And both Domestic and European competitions, just all of their results in general.
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So with that in mind why are Liverpool rated so low when they've reached 2 CL finals, winning 1 and won their domestic league in that stretch?
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Atletico.

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 8===D-vock* (U22339)
posted 3 minutes ago
Has nobody mentioned England yet? They’ve just beaten the world’s no.1 team.

1) England
2) Aston Villa
3) Liverpool
4) Belgium
5) Bayern Munich
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Surely Hoffenheim are above Bayern? They beat them 4-1.
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Did they? Makes sense Bayern are 6th then

Wahl Icht - a question...

If you had the power to disband Liverpool as a club or just guarantee they'd never win another trophy in your lifetime (whichever you'd prefer) but the price would be Jose Mourinho immediately died - would you do it?

comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 2 minutes ago
Wahl Icht - a question...

If you had the power to disband Liverpool as a club or just guarantee they'd never win another trophy in your lifetime (whichever you'd prefer) but the price would be Jose Mourinho immediately died - would you do it?

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He could kill two birds with one stone here just by Mourinho taking over Liverpool.

comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 22 minutes ago
What's this based on?
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How good they are.
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Gathered that. What have you used to quantify how good they are?
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Their Results?
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Domestically or in competition with eachother? Over how many seasons?
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Maybe like 2 or 3 seasons? And both Domestic and European competitions, just all of their results in general.
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So with that in mind why are Liverpool rated so low when they've reached 2 CL finals, winning 1 and won their domestic league in that stretch?
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Atletico.
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PSG have been knocked out in every CL they've played in in recent years...

comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 22 minutes ago
What's this based on?
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How good they are.
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Gathered that. What have you used to quantify how good they are?
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Their Results?
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Domestically or in competition with eachother? Over how many seasons?
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Maybe like 2 or 3 seasons? And both Domestic and European competitions, just all of their results in general.
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So with that in mind why are Liverpool rated so low when they've reached 2 CL finals, winning 1 and won their domestic league in that stretch?
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Atletico.
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PSG have been knocked out in every CL they've played in in recent years...
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You obviously don't understand how this works. Liverpool won it the previous year when the whole of Europe was rubbish but now the teams in the final are the best in Europe and the team that knocked out Liverpool are better. In fact the teams have improved so much this year that there are several better than Liverpool, although if Liverpool win it this year, this will be clear indication that all the teams in Europe are rubbish again.

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 22 minutes ago
What's this based on?
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How good they are.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Gathered that. What have you used to quantify how good they are?
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Their Results?
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Domestically or in competition with eachother? Over how many seasons?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe like 2 or 3 seasons? And both Domestic and European competitions, just all of their results in general.
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So with that in mind why are Liverpool rated so low when they've reached 2 CL finals, winning 1 and won their domestic league in that stretch?
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Atletico.
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PSG have been knocked out in every CL they've played in in recent years...
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You obviously don't understand how this works. Liverpool won it the previous year when the whole of Europe was rubbish but now the teams in the final are the best in Europe and the team that knocked out Liverpool are better. In fact the teams have improved so much this year that there are several better than Liverpool, although if Liverpool win it this year, this will be clear indication that all the teams in Europe are rubbish again.
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Ahh of course, the twisted logic of rival fans!

comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 55 minutes ago
Wahl Icht - a question...

If you had the power to disband Liverpool as a club or just guarantee they'd never win another trophy in your lifetime (whichever you'd prefer) but the price would be Jose Mourinho immediately died - would you do it?

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Uh, no. I wouldn't even choose that if Jurgen Klopp (or the mongrel, as my dad nicknames him) was the one dying. I don't hate Liverpool that much.

comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 22 minutes ago
What's this based on?
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How good they are.
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Gathered that. What have you used to quantify how good they are?
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Their Results?
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Domestically or in competition with eachother? Over how many seasons?
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Maybe like 2 or 3 seasons? And both Domestic and European competitions, just all of their results in general.
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So with that in mind why are Liverpool rated so low when they've reached 2 CL finals, winning 1 and won their domestic league in that stretch?
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Atletico.
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PSG have been knocked out in every CL they've played in in recent years...
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Not by a B-tier European team like Atletico. They beat you home and away but then got dumped out by Leipzig who got dumped out by PSG.

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 22 minutes ago
What's this based on?
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How good they are.
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Gathered that. What have you used to quantify how good they are?
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Their Results?
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Domestically or in competition with eachother? Over how many seasons?
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Maybe like 2 or 3 seasons? And both Domestic and European competitions, just all of their results in general.
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So with that in mind why are Liverpool rated so low when they've reached 2 CL finals, winning 1 and won their domestic league in that stretch?
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Atletico.
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PSG have been knocked out in every CL they've played in in recent years...
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You obviously don't understand how this works. Liverpool won it the previous year when the whole of Europe was rubbish but now the teams in the final are the best in Europe and the team that knocked out Liverpool are better. In fact the teams have improved so much this year that there are several better than Liverpool, although if Liverpool win it this year, this will be clear indication that all the teams in Europe are rubbish again.
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If Liverpool hadn't been beaten home and away by Atletico I would have not been justified in putting them any lower than 3rd. But they were. Honestly, you should be happy I put them above Atletico, I didn't want to, but I knew the whining would be insane if I didn't.

I would love it if Liverpool stopped existing. I would gladly take Chelsea never winning another trophy or again or also stopping to exist if it meant that happened.

I would honestly rather Liverpool and Chelsea both never winning another trophy again than Liverpool winning the next PL and Chelsea winning the next 30 titles after that.

comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
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comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 22 minutes ago
What's this based on?
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How good they are.
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Gathered that. What have you used to quantify how good they are?
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Their Results?
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Domestically or in competition with eachother? Over how many seasons?
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Maybe like 2 or 3 seasons? And both Domestic and European competitions, just all of their results in general.
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So with that in mind why are Liverpool rated so low when they've reached 2 CL finals, winning 1 and won their domestic league in that stretch?
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Atletico.
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PSG have been knocked out in every CL they've played in in recent years...
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You obviously don't understand how this works. Liverpool won it the previous year when the whole of Europe was rubbish but now the teams in the final are the best in Europe and the team that knocked out Liverpool are better. In fact the teams have improved so much this year that there are several better than Liverpool, although if Liverpool win it this year, this will be clear indication that all the teams in Europe are rubbish again.
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If Liverpool hadn't been beaten home and away by Atletico I would have not been justified in putting them any lower than 3rd. But they were. Honestly, you should be happy I put them above Atletico, I didn't want to, but I knew the whining would be insane if I didn't.
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Real got knocked out by Ajax the year before last, and Man City last year (beaten home and away) so, that doesn't add up in your rankings at all.

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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
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comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
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comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 22 minutes ago
What's this based on?
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How good they are.
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Gathered that. What have you used to quantify how good they are?
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Their Results?
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Domestically or in competition with eachother? Over how many seasons?
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Maybe like 2 or 3 seasons? And both Domestic and European competitions, just all of their results in general.
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So with that in mind why are Liverpool rated so low when they've reached 2 CL finals, winning 1 and won their domestic league in that stretch?
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Atletico.
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PSG have been knocked out in every CL they've played in in recent years...
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You obviously don't understand how this works. Liverpool won it the previous year when the whole of Europe was rubbish but now the teams in the final are the best in Europe and the team that knocked out Liverpool are better. In fact the teams have improved so much this year that there are several better than Liverpool, although if Liverpool win it this year, this will be clear indication that all the teams in Europe are rubbish again.
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If Liverpool hadn't been beaten home and away by Atletico I would have not been justified in putting them any lower than 3rd. But they were. Honestly, you should be happy I put them above Atletico, I didn't want to, but I knew the whining would be insane if I didn't.
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Real got knocked out by Ajax the year before last, and Man City last year (beaten home and away) so, that doesn't add up in your rankings at all.
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Yeah, you're right, let me fix this

comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 55 minutes ago
Wahl Icht - a question...

If you had the power to disband Liverpool as a club or just guarantee they'd never win another trophy in your lifetime (whichever you'd prefer) but the price would be Jose Mourinho immediately died - would you do it?

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Uh, no. I wouldn't even choose that if Jurgen Klopp (or the mongrel, as my dad nicknames him) was the one dying. I don't hate Liverpool that much.
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You've clearly inherited your dad's wit and intellect.

Nice to know your hatred has limits though.