pc gone mad what next ban fouling the worlds gone mad
If it genuinely led to potential health risks, then this shouldn't even be an issue.
Nobody should purposely put themselves at long-term risk, if it can actually be avoided.
Balls today aren’t as hard and don’t get sodden with water like they used to
No for me
I think some proper research into the impact of heading in the modern game needs conducting first, which may not be possible for decades.
It would seem ridiculous to us of course, but no real reason why anyone not yet born couldn't grow up to play the game where use of the head is banned.
Think it's inevitable in the long term but can't see it happening at elite level anytime soon.
A field study was published in Oct last year, and heading in grassroots level is already being cut back from training sessions.
https://www.thefa.com/news/2019/oct/21/field-research-study-findings-211019
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Rampant (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
Think it's inevitable in the long term but can't see it happening at elite level anytime soon.
A field study was published in Oct last year, and heading in grassroots level is already being cut back from training sessions.
https://www.thefa.com/news/2019/oct/21/field-research-study-findings-211019
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Problem with this study is that it was in Scotland. So the smack was probably the bigger contributing factor than heading the ball.
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Rampant (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
Think it's inevitable in the long term but can't see it happening at elite level anytime soon.
A field study was published in Oct last year, and heading in grassroots level is already being cut back from training sessions.
https://www.thefa.com/news/2019/oct/21/field-research-study-findings-211019
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Problem with this study is that it was in Scotland. So the smack was probably the bigger contributing factor than heading the ball.
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Worldwide studies on CTE (brain degeneration) in sport have been ongoing for about 20yrs now. The science is fairly robust.
Is the % that high and theyre sure they wouldnt have got dementia anyway? Things have changed quite a lot theres probably a lot less heading in general already anyway as the games evolved and the football itself is a lot lighter etc. Add to that theyve kinda limited it in grass roots too already. They could use headgear in training too thatd reduce it also.
Yeah I know, I was taking the piiiiss.
I think the issues with the balls now is something to consider, as has been mentioned.
I‘m not sure it should, or will, be banned at professional level, however.
Underage levels could be useful, especially if it stops players like Andy Carroll becoming professional.
Anyone know of any comparative studies pitting football against other contact (or non-contact) sports that do not involve heading the ball?
The issue for me is that even if dementia is found to be higher amongst footballers than in the general population, the idea that heading the ball is the main reason shouldn't be taken as a given.
i think we'll see a lot more changes to lower it before its even considered to be banned altogether.
Punching to be banned in boxing next.
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 5 minutes ago
i think we'll see a lot more changes to lower it before its even considered to be banned altogether.
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If you lower it a lot more players are going to get booted in the head.
same as everything else in every other walk of life.
let people know the risks and then let them decide whether or not to do/eat/smoke/screw something or not.
people can determine for themselves if something has a risk they're willing to incur.
stop bloody trying to legislate everything out of existence.
it's this bloody paranoia and overreaction about the effects of anything that's causing bigger problems.
overuse of antibiotics and germicides is stopping the human immune system developing properly, leading to increasing levels of treatment resistant bacteria/viruses, increased allergic reactions to more and more different stimuli.
health and safety regulations and risk assessments of everything are doing more damage than the problem they're trying to solve. little kids can't even play conkers in schools anymore because of bullcrap like this.
the number of times i ended up headbutting the concrete ground whilst falling over playing football in school... not being allowed to head a football wouldn't have made any significant difference. it's a complete waste of time just to give some jobsworths something to do whilst they suck the fun out of everyone else's lives.
comment by 20th title coming soon. (U12879)
posted 3 minutes ago
same as everything else in every other walk of life.
let people know the risks and then let them decide whether or not to do/eat/smoke/screw something or not.
people can determine for themselves if something has a risk they're willing to incur.
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I don't think it is the same as in every other walk of life, because not every other walk of life offers million-pound rewards for putting your health or life on the line.
No matter how much you explained the risks, if it's a relative risk and deciding to head the ball became the difference between pocketing 100k a week or manning the turnstiles, then there would only be a very small minority opting for the latter.
By the same token, inform people of the potential health hazards of doping, but let them dope at will.
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
Anyone know of any comparative studies pitting football against other contact (or non-contact) sports that do not involve heading the ball?
The issue for me is that even if dementia is found to be higher amongst footballers than in the general population, the idea that heading the ball is the main reason shouldn't be taken as a given.
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This is a decent wiki page on reported CTE cases in various sports:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_traumatic_encephalopathy_in_sports
Just play with a "Shoot 5" flyaway instead.
Goal of the month would have some interesting entries.
comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
If it genuinely led to potential health risks, then this shouldn't even be an issue.
Nobody should purposely put themselves at long-term risk, if it can actually be avoided.
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Disagree. If evidence is shown that it increases risk than deliver that information to players before they start their career. Choice to them. Literally every sport comes with an increased risk of injury!
time too ban punching in boxing
Time too ban racing in motor racing
comment by Garry Brady (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
time too ban punching in boxing
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comment by Garry Brady (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Time too ban racing in motor racing
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thats already been done in f1 hasnt it
comment by *Whenever I’m after some chot, all that comes out of my mouth is a load of baff. I just can’t help it, I’m just a chop.{Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Garry Brady (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
time too ban punching in boxing
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Sorry haven't read any other comments
Ban running in football too because it's bad for the players knees.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Rampant (U3126)
posted 14 minutes ago
This is a decent wiki page on reported CTE cases in various sports:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_traumatic_encephalopathy_in_sports
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Thanks for that, although it doesn't really clarify much I'm afraid, as it reports on a number of cases across different sports but doesn't really establish any statistical comparisons.
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posted on 4/11/20
pc gone mad what next ban fouling the worlds gone mad
posted on 4/11/20
If it genuinely led to potential health risks, then this shouldn't even be an issue.
Nobody should purposely put themselves at long-term risk, if it can actually be avoided.
posted on 4/11/20
Balls today aren’t as hard and don’t get sodden with water like they used to
No for me
posted on 4/11/20
I think some proper research into the impact of heading in the modern game needs conducting first, which may not be possible for decades.
It would seem ridiculous to us of course, but no real reason why anyone not yet born couldn't grow up to play the game where use of the head is banned.
posted on 4/11/20
Think it's inevitable in the long term but can't see it happening at elite level anytime soon.
A field study was published in Oct last year, and heading in grassroots level is already being cut back from training sessions.
https://www.thefa.com/news/2019/oct/21/field-research-study-findings-211019
posted on 4/11/20
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Rampant (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
Think it's inevitable in the long term but can't see it happening at elite level anytime soon.
A field study was published in Oct last year, and heading in grassroots level is already being cut back from training sessions.
https://www.thefa.com/news/2019/oct/21/field-research-study-findings-211019
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Problem with this study is that it was in Scotland. So the smack was probably the bigger contributing factor than heading the ball.
posted on 4/11/20
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Rampant (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
Think it's inevitable in the long term but can't see it happening at elite level anytime soon.
A field study was published in Oct last year, and heading in grassroots level is already being cut back from training sessions.
https://www.thefa.com/news/2019/oct/21/field-research-study-findings-211019
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Problem with this study is that it was in Scotland. So the smack was probably the bigger contributing factor than heading the ball.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Worldwide studies on CTE (brain degeneration) in sport have been ongoing for about 20yrs now. The science is fairly robust.
posted on 4/11/20
Is the % that high and theyre sure they wouldnt have got dementia anyway? Things have changed quite a lot theres probably a lot less heading in general already anyway as the games evolved and the football itself is a lot lighter etc. Add to that theyve kinda limited it in grass roots too already. They could use headgear in training too thatd reduce it also.
posted on 4/11/20
Yeah I know, I was taking the piiiiss.
I think the issues with the balls now is something to consider, as has been mentioned.
I‘m not sure it should, or will, be banned at professional level, however.
Underage levels could be useful, especially if it stops players like Andy Carroll becoming professional.
posted on 4/11/20
Anyone know of any comparative studies pitting football against other contact (or non-contact) sports that do not involve heading the ball?
The issue for me is that even if dementia is found to be higher amongst footballers than in the general population, the idea that heading the ball is the main reason shouldn't be taken as a given.
posted on 4/11/20
i think we'll see a lot more changes to lower it before its even considered to be banned altogether.
posted on 4/11/20
Punching to be banned in boxing next.
posted on 4/11/20
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 5 minutes ago
i think we'll see a lot more changes to lower it before its even considered to be banned altogether.
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If you lower it a lot more players are going to get booted in the head.
posted on 4/11/20
same as everything else in every other walk of life.
let people know the risks and then let them decide whether or not to do/eat/smoke/screw something or not.
people can determine for themselves if something has a risk they're willing to incur.
stop bloody trying to legislate everything out of existence.
it's this bloody paranoia and overreaction about the effects of anything that's causing bigger problems.
overuse of antibiotics and germicides is stopping the human immune system developing properly, leading to increasing levels of treatment resistant bacteria/viruses, increased allergic reactions to more and more different stimuli.
health and safety regulations and risk assessments of everything are doing more damage than the problem they're trying to solve. little kids can't even play conkers in schools anymore because of bullcrap like this.
the number of times i ended up headbutting the concrete ground whilst falling over playing football in school... not being allowed to head a football wouldn't have made any significant difference. it's a complete waste of time just to give some jobsworths something to do whilst they suck the fun out of everyone else's lives.
posted on 4/11/20
comment by 20th title coming soon. (U12879)
posted 3 minutes ago
same as everything else in every other walk of life.
let people know the risks and then let them decide whether or not to do/eat/smoke/screw something or not.
people can determine for themselves if something has a risk they're willing to incur.
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I don't think it is the same as in every other walk of life, because not every other walk of life offers million-pound rewards for putting your health or life on the line.
No matter how much you explained the risks, if it's a relative risk and deciding to head the ball became the difference between pocketing 100k a week or manning the turnstiles, then there would only be a very small minority opting for the latter.
By the same token, inform people of the potential health hazards of doping, but let them dope at will.
posted on 4/11/20
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
Anyone know of any comparative studies pitting football against other contact (or non-contact) sports that do not involve heading the ball?
The issue for me is that even if dementia is found to be higher amongst footballers than in the general population, the idea that heading the ball is the main reason shouldn't be taken as a given.
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This is a decent wiki page on reported CTE cases in various sports:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_traumatic_encephalopathy_in_sports
posted on 4/11/20
Just play with a "Shoot 5" flyaway instead.
Goal of the month would have some interesting entries.
posted on 4/11/20
comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
If it genuinely led to potential health risks, then this shouldn't even be an issue.
Nobody should purposely put themselves at long-term risk, if it can actually be avoided.
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Disagree. If evidence is shown that it increases risk than deliver that information to players before they start their career. Choice to them. Literally every sport comes with an increased risk of injury!
posted on 4/11/20
time too ban punching in boxing
posted on 4/11/20
Time too ban racing in motor racing
posted on 4/11/20
comment by Garry Brady (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
time too ban punching in boxing
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posted on 4/11/20
comment by Garry Brady (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Time too ban racing in motor racing
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thats already been done in f1 hasnt it
posted on 4/11/20
comment by *Whenever I’m after some chot, all that comes out of my mouth is a load of baff. I just can’t help it, I’m just a chop.{Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Garry Brady (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
time too ban punching in boxing
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Sorry haven't read any other comments
posted on 4/11/20
Ban running in football too because it's bad for the players knees.
posted on 4/11/20
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Rampant (U3126)
posted 14 minutes ago
This is a decent wiki page on reported CTE cases in various sports:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_traumatic_encephalopathy_in_sports
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Thanks for that, although it doesn't really clarify much I'm afraid, as it reports on a number of cases across different sports but doesn't really establish any statistical comparisons.
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