Just for clarity for anyone that doesn’t get the irony in my posts:
Drinkwater is a midfielder that that was hugely successful in a team that suited his game. His record since leaving Leicester shows he’s is severely limited in both attitude and aptitude beyond what he did here.
Kante was and IS still one of the best midfielders in the world.
Mahrez is another player who is world class, but only in a team that is set up to enable him to play. He can’t play the “modern” winger who is required to track back and be a defender at times, especially under Pep.
So I guess it comes down to horses for courses. Chilwell was poor for us but maybe we were asking him to play a role that didn’t suit him. Now he has different players around him he may be thriving. Credit to him and credit to him openly taking about his health issues and their impact on his form.
Castagne is still better though 😉
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Chelsea were talking about getting rid of Kante and Mahrez rarely plays.
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is this guy drunk or stupid? one person said we should sell kante. Jamie O'hara who is an idiot. Kante is still the best box to box midfielder in the league
Imagine saying kante was never as good after leaving leicester when he went on to win player of the year lol
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I think Kante was at his best during Conte’s final season actually. His game really developed in terms of passing/ball progression which was lacking prior - I thought he was insane that season and let down by a lot of the other teams
I see this has rather taken off with Arro back.
In response to a few things I've seen in both the OP and since:
- Are Leicester better than England? Personnel-wise I'd say probably not, with a few exceptions: Schmeichel, Tielemans, CBs are probably questionable and - personal choice maybe - but I'd have Vardy over anyone, including Kane. As a match, it's always difficult to tell with international football because the players spend more time together to build an understanding in their club teams. I might back Leicester to win a match right now, but with caveats of familiarity and form. If England were a club team and in a similar level of form, I think they'd be better. They have too many good attacking options not to be.
- Chilwell is better than Castagne; Castagne's started well, but we just didn't see the best of Chilwell last season.
- Kante is better than Ndidi. As much as Ndidi's ball recovery stats are excellent, there's a reason why the top clubs haven't been sniffing around and it's that he's pretty average on the ball.
- Maguire is not as good as any of our 3 first choice CBs and we always have had Man Utd's pants down with that price.
- This current Leicester City team is /not/ as good as the title winning side. Or at least, not yet. That's something that they're going to have to prove. Just because we'd rate the personnel individually higher doesn't mean that they're as good as a team. While it's true that the stars aligned for them, the mentality the title winning team had was phenomenal.
Some interesting builds Dunge.
Another way to look at it is if you had to take the team in blocks. I think you’d take Leicester for the goalkeeper, defence and midfield, with England’s front 3 without a doubt (don’t think anyone has argued otherwise).
But still, even if you look at people’s balanced teams (Edinspurs has had some very balanced views here) it’s 50:50 on players.
Really I think it makes being an England fan quite depressing, but a Leicester fan very exciting.
I expect this current team to finish in the top 6 this year if we can control injuries and form. Big if. Top 4 would be a great achievement.
I guess the best test of “which team is better” would be to play Leicester’s title team vs this current one. Hypothetically of course.
This current team would win hands down for me. Fofana would own Vardy whilst Ndidi would make Drinkwater look like an amateur. Although he’s done a pretty good job of that himself in the last 3 years.
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 9 minutes ago
I think Kante was at his best during Conte’s final season actually. His game really developed in terms of passing/ball progression which was lacking prior - I thought he was insane that season and let down by a lot of the other teams
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not a bad shout, i actually think he was great under sarri during a...disruptive season to say the least. Just added assets to his game every year since joining. He will never be pirlo but his passing, off the ball movement, first touch and other aspects have improved over the years. The guy is a phenomenon really and along with kdb should be in the top 2 midfielders in the league in mosts book. We would have been lost without him and hazard the last few years, our only genuine wc players (unless you counted azpi)
"I guess the best test of “which team is better” would be to play Leicester’s title team vs this current one. Hypothetically of course."
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In what circumstance though? In a one-off friendly with nothing riding on it or with the pressure on to claim a big prize?
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 7 minutes ago
I see this has rather taken off with Arro back.
In response to a few things I've seen in both the OP and since:
- Are Leicester better than England? Personnel-wise I'd say probably not, with a few exceptions: Schmeichel, Tielemans, CBs are probably questionable and - personal choice maybe - but I'd have Vardy over anyone, including Kane. As a match, it's always difficult to tell with international football because the players spend more time together to build an understanding in their club teams. I might back Leicester to win a match right now, but with caveats of familiarity and form. If England were a club team and in a similar level of form, I think they'd be better. They have too many good attacking options not to be.
- Chilwell is better than Castagne; Castagne's started well, but we just didn't see the best of Chilwell last season.
- Kante is better than Ndidi. As much as Ndidi's ball recovery stats are excellent, there's a reason why the top clubs haven't been sniffing around and it's that he's pretty average on the ball.
- Maguire is not as good as any of our 3 first choice CBs and we always have had Man Utd's pants down with that price.
- This current Leicester City team is /not/ as good as the title winning side. Or at least, not yet. That's something that they're going to have to prove. Just because we'd rate the personnel individually higher doesn't mean that they're as good as a team. While it's true that the stars aligned for them, the mentality the title winning team had was phenomenal.
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As a defensive midfielder your job is to win the ball back, not to pass the ball or set up attacks. So you’re kind of comparing someone who can pass the ball better with someone who can win the ball back better and while Kante is a better passer, Ndidi is better at winning the ball back. Ndidi does also boss Kante every time we play Chelsea because he’s physically far superior.
We’re talking about the quality of the players we have now compared to the quality of the players that won the league and this team is far more talented. I don’t even see how it’s a debate because our title winning team was extremely limited in terms of talent, what we had was a way of playing that teams found extremely difficult to play against, a team spirit that was second to none and the rest of the league was crap that season. Since then City and Liverpool have spent a fortune and 81 points hasn’t been anywhere close to winning the league. We were the best team that season but that’s about all and that’s not saying a lot given how poor everyone else was. If you’re going to use the barometer of winning the league as our best ever team then we’re probably never going to have a better team than that, even though most of the players were average in terms of ability.
Ndidi bosses kante everytime you play chelsea?
Kante record since joining chelsea
6 wins
4 draws
1 loss
What evidence do you have to back up any of your claims?
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comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 minutes ago
Ndidi bosses kante everytime you play chelsea?
Kante record since joining chelsea
6 wins
4 draws
1 loss
What evidence do you have to back up any of your claims?
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Just the individual battle between the two of them. Kante hasn’t had a good game against us since Ndidi joined us. Maybe I pay more attention than you do but I take particular notice of their individual battle and Ndidi bosses him because of his physical strength. Ndidi is Katy a much more imposing figure than Kante is and covers just as much ground. Ndidi has been top of the tackles and interceptions chart across Europe for the past few seasons and Kante hasn’t been anywhere close, even Ricardo has won more tackles and interceptions than Kante. As far as I’m concerned a defensive midfielders job is to win the ball back but it appears others have a different interpretation of the role.
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 26 minutes ago
"I guess the best test of “which team is better” would be to play Leicester’s title team vs this current one. Hypothetically of course."
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In what circumstance though? In a one-off friendly with nothing riding on it or with the pressure on to claim a big prize?
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Let’s just go for a competitive league game. Mid season, both teams fighting for the top 4.
lucky kante isnt just a defensive midfielder than isnt it. thats why we've had matic and jorgino play behind him for chelsea and sat deeper.
It seems like you are just making things up to be honest. Ndidid hasn't dominated kante at all. Infact didn't kante score in a win against leicester.
Stop making things up, kante has gotten better since leaving leicester and won poty.
Kante being a defensive midfielder is something that is often stated but isn’t true - a DM is considered someone who sits and that has always been the midfielder beside Kante. In truth he is a box to box midfielder whose main qualities are in terms of defensive characteristics.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 9 minutes ago
lucky kante isnt just a defensive midfielder than isnt it. thats why we've had matic and jorgino play behind him for chelsea and sat deeper.
It seems like you are just making things up to be honest. Ndidid hasn't dominated kante at all. Infact didn't kante score in a win against leicester.
Stop making things up, kante has gotten better since leaving leicester and won poty.
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I just looked at the games since Ndidi joined us and it’s actually played six, won one, lost one and drawn four.
Ndidi does boss Kante but whether you choose to agree with that or not is up to you. I know I watch their personal battle and pay particular attention to it and Kante is like a little school kid playing against Ndidi, he can’t get close to him because Ndidi just holds him off and his spider like legs just win the ball back. He’s just a far more physical player and considerably taller and stronger than Kante.
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 17 minutes ago
Kante being a defensive midfielder is something that is often stated but isn’t true - a DM is considered someone who sits and that has always been the midfielder beside Kante. In truth he is a box to box midfielder whose main qualities are in terms of defensive characteristics.
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Now that I can agree with.
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 26 minutes ago
"I guess the best test of “which team is better” would be to play Leicester’s title team vs this current one. Hypothetically of course."
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In what circumstance though? In a one-off friendly with nothing riding on it or with the pressure on to claim a big prize?
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Let’s just go for a competitive league game. Mid season, both teams fighting for the top 4.
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Best bet's a draw then. Puncher vs. counterpuncher. Could go either way.
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
I see this has rather taken off with Arro back.
In response to a few things I've seen in both the OP and since:
- Are Leicester better than England? Personnel-wise I'd say probably not, with a few exceptions: Schmeichel, Tielemans, CBs are probably questionable and - personal choice maybe - but I'd have Vardy over anyone, including Kane. As a match, it's always difficult to tell with international football because the players spend more time together to build an understanding in their club teams. I might back Leicester to win a match right now, but with caveats of familiarity and form. If England were a club team and in a similar level of form, I think they'd be better. They have too many good attacking options not to be.
- Chilwell is better than Castagne; Castagne's started well, but we just didn't see the best of Chilwell last season.
- Kante is better than Ndidi. As much as Ndidi's ball recovery stats are excellent, there's a reason why the top clubs haven't been sniffing around and it's that he's pretty average on the ball.
- Maguire is not as good as any of our 3 first choice CBs and we always have had Man Utd's pants down with that price.
- This current Leicester City team is /not/ as good as the title winning side. Or at least, not yet. That's something that they're going to have to prove. Just because we'd rate the personnel individually higher doesn't mean that they're as good as a team. While it's true that the stars aligned for them, the mentality the title winning team had was phenomenal.
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I think this is a great post Dunge and I agree with most of it. The one bit I might take some issue with is:
"Chilwell is better than Castagne"
I don't think we could definitively state that at the moment as it's far too early to say.
Chilwell looks like he's started pretty well at Chelsea and is happy and in good form. His form for us, however, was characterized by mediocre performances and poor quality in the final third. We see now that this might be an issue of confidence and not just ability, but that might explain why so often he got to a position of attacking threat before looking backwards and failing to deliver any quality. That wasn't just last season and, as I said, his Leicester days were characterised by these issues.
Castagne has started well, but he's only a few games into his Leicester career. It's probably hard to make a comparison with BC at the moment as none of us have even seen him live. Similarly I will be interested to see how Chilwell gets on at Chelsea when the fans are back in the stadiums and there is a full and expectant crowd. Let's not forget that the best players have the attributes of a great mentality as well as great ability. Ben Chilwell was ok for us, but he wasn't even as good as Christian Fuchs apart from the advantage he had of pace and youthful athleticism over the latter.
Annoying thing with the chilwell situation is this - plays at Leicester everyone thinks he’s crap - moves to Chelsea and suddenly he’s the best left back in the country.
Put it this way, there’s not one Leicester fan that would swap chilwell for castangne and fofana. Guess everyone got a good deal all round
On topic, no Leicester wouldn’t beat England
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 2 days, 4 hours ago
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 26 minutes ago
"I guess the best test of “which team is better” would be to play Leicester’s title team vs this current one. Hypothetically of course."
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In what circumstance though? In a one-off friendly with nothing riding on it or with the pressure on to claim a big prize?
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Let’s just go for a competitive league game. Mid season, both teams fighting for the top 4.
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Best bet's a draw then. Puncher vs. counterpuncher. Could go either way.
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It's the title winning team for me, it would be a perfect set up against the current side, they'd concede 70% possession and hit on the break. The evidence we have on the present side is they wouldn't be able to break down Ranieri's superbly disciplined defence and Rodgers wouldn't have a clue what to do about it.
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posted on 16/11/20
Just for clarity for anyone that doesn’t get the irony in my posts:
Drinkwater is a midfielder that that was hugely successful in a team that suited his game. His record since leaving Leicester shows he’s is severely limited in both attitude and aptitude beyond what he did here.
Kante was and IS still one of the best midfielders in the world.
Mahrez is another player who is world class, but only in a team that is set up to enable him to play. He can’t play the “modern” winger who is required to track back and be a defender at times, especially under Pep.
So I guess it comes down to horses for courses. Chilwell was poor for us but maybe we were asking him to play a role that didn’t suit him. Now he has different players around him he may be thriving. Credit to him and credit to him openly taking about his health issues and their impact on his form.
Castagne is still better though 😉
posted on 16/11/20
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posted on 16/11/20
Chelsea were talking about getting rid of Kante and Mahrez rarely plays.
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is this guy drunk or stupid? one person said we should sell kante. Jamie O'hara who is an idiot. Kante is still the best box to box midfielder in the league
posted on 16/11/20
Imagine saying kante was never as good after leaving leicester when he went on to win player of the year lol
posted on 16/11/20
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posted on 16/11/20
I think Kante was at his best during Conte’s final season actually. His game really developed in terms of passing/ball progression which was lacking prior - I thought he was insane that season and let down by a lot of the other teams
posted on 16/11/20
I see this has rather taken off with Arro back.
In response to a few things I've seen in both the OP and since:
- Are Leicester better than England? Personnel-wise I'd say probably not, with a few exceptions: Schmeichel, Tielemans, CBs are probably questionable and - personal choice maybe - but I'd have Vardy over anyone, including Kane. As a match, it's always difficult to tell with international football because the players spend more time together to build an understanding in their club teams. I might back Leicester to win a match right now, but with caveats of familiarity and form. If England were a club team and in a similar level of form, I think they'd be better. They have too many good attacking options not to be.
- Chilwell is better than Castagne; Castagne's started well, but we just didn't see the best of Chilwell last season.
- Kante is better than Ndidi. As much as Ndidi's ball recovery stats are excellent, there's a reason why the top clubs haven't been sniffing around and it's that he's pretty average on the ball.
- Maguire is not as good as any of our 3 first choice CBs and we always have had Man Utd's pants down with that price.
- This current Leicester City team is /not/ as good as the title winning side. Or at least, not yet. That's something that they're going to have to prove. Just because we'd rate the personnel individually higher doesn't mean that they're as good as a team. While it's true that the stars aligned for them, the mentality the title winning team had was phenomenal.
posted on 16/11/20
Some interesting builds Dunge.
Another way to look at it is if you had to take the team in blocks. I think you’d take Leicester for the goalkeeper, defence and midfield, with England’s front 3 without a doubt (don’t think anyone has argued otherwise).
But still, even if you look at people’s balanced teams (Edinspurs has had some very balanced views here) it’s 50:50 on players.
Really I think it makes being an England fan quite depressing, but a Leicester fan very exciting.
I expect this current team to finish in the top 6 this year if we can control injuries and form. Big if. Top 4 would be a great achievement.
I guess the best test of “which team is better” would be to play Leicester’s title team vs this current one. Hypothetically of course.
This current team would win hands down for me. Fofana would own Vardy whilst Ndidi would make Drinkwater look like an amateur. Although he’s done a pretty good job of that himself in the last 3 years.
posted on 16/11/20
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 9 minutes ago
I think Kante was at his best during Conte’s final season actually. His game really developed in terms of passing/ball progression which was lacking prior - I thought he was insane that season and let down by a lot of the other teams
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not a bad shout, i actually think he was great under sarri during a...disruptive season to say the least. Just added assets to his game every year since joining. He will never be pirlo but his passing, off the ball movement, first touch and other aspects have improved over the years. The guy is a phenomenon really and along with kdb should be in the top 2 midfielders in the league in mosts book. We would have been lost without him and hazard the last few years, our only genuine wc players (unless you counted azpi)
posted on 16/11/20
"I guess the best test of “which team is better” would be to play Leicester’s title team vs this current one. Hypothetically of course."
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In what circumstance though? In a one-off friendly with nothing riding on it or with the pressure on to claim a big prize?
posted on 16/11/20
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 7 minutes ago
I see this has rather taken off with Arro back.
In response to a few things I've seen in both the OP and since:
- Are Leicester better than England? Personnel-wise I'd say probably not, with a few exceptions: Schmeichel, Tielemans, CBs are probably questionable and - personal choice maybe - but I'd have Vardy over anyone, including Kane. As a match, it's always difficult to tell with international football because the players spend more time together to build an understanding in their club teams. I might back Leicester to win a match right now, but with caveats of familiarity and form. If England were a club team and in a similar level of form, I think they'd be better. They have too many good attacking options not to be.
- Chilwell is better than Castagne; Castagne's started well, but we just didn't see the best of Chilwell last season.
- Kante is better than Ndidi. As much as Ndidi's ball recovery stats are excellent, there's a reason why the top clubs haven't been sniffing around and it's that he's pretty average on the ball.
- Maguire is not as good as any of our 3 first choice CBs and we always have had Man Utd's pants down with that price.
- This current Leicester City team is /not/ as good as the title winning side. Or at least, not yet. That's something that they're going to have to prove. Just because we'd rate the personnel individually higher doesn't mean that they're as good as a team. While it's true that the stars aligned for them, the mentality the title winning team had was phenomenal.
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As a defensive midfielder your job is to win the ball back, not to pass the ball or set up attacks. So you’re kind of comparing someone who can pass the ball better with someone who can win the ball back better and while Kante is a better passer, Ndidi is better at winning the ball back. Ndidi does also boss Kante every time we play Chelsea because he’s physically far superior.
We’re talking about the quality of the players we have now compared to the quality of the players that won the league and this team is far more talented. I don’t even see how it’s a debate because our title winning team was extremely limited in terms of talent, what we had was a way of playing that teams found extremely difficult to play against, a team spirit that was second to none and the rest of the league was crap that season. Since then City and Liverpool have spent a fortune and 81 points hasn’t been anywhere close to winning the league. We were the best team that season but that’s about all and that’s not saying a lot given how poor everyone else was. If you’re going to use the barometer of winning the league as our best ever team then we’re probably never going to have a better team than that, even though most of the players were average in terms of ability.
posted on 16/11/20
Ndidi bosses kante everytime you play chelsea?
Kante record since joining chelsea
6 wins
4 draws
1 loss
What evidence do you have to back up any of your claims?
posted on 16/11/20
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posted on 16/11/20
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 minutes ago
Ndidi bosses kante everytime you play chelsea?
Kante record since joining chelsea
6 wins
4 draws
1 loss
What evidence do you have to back up any of your claims?
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Just the individual battle between the two of them. Kante hasn’t had a good game against us since Ndidi joined us. Maybe I pay more attention than you do but I take particular notice of their individual battle and Ndidi bosses him because of his physical strength. Ndidi is Katy a much more imposing figure than Kante is and covers just as much ground. Ndidi has been top of the tackles and interceptions chart across Europe for the past few seasons and Kante hasn’t been anywhere close, even Ricardo has won more tackles and interceptions than Kante. As far as I’m concerned a defensive midfielders job is to win the ball back but it appears others have a different interpretation of the role.
posted on 16/11/20
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 26 minutes ago
"I guess the best test of “which team is better” would be to play Leicester’s title team vs this current one. Hypothetically of course."
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In what circumstance though? In a one-off friendly with nothing riding on it or with the pressure on to claim a big prize?
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Let’s just go for a competitive league game. Mid season, both teams fighting for the top 4.
posted on 16/11/20
lucky kante isnt just a defensive midfielder than isnt it. thats why we've had matic and jorgino play behind him for chelsea and sat deeper.
It seems like you are just making things up to be honest. Ndidid hasn't dominated kante at all. Infact didn't kante score in a win against leicester.
Stop making things up, kante has gotten better since leaving leicester and won poty.
posted on 16/11/20
Kante being a defensive midfielder is something that is often stated but isn’t true - a DM is considered someone who sits and that has always been the midfielder beside Kante. In truth he is a box to box midfielder whose main qualities are in terms of defensive characteristics.
posted on 16/11/20
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 9 minutes ago
lucky kante isnt just a defensive midfielder than isnt it. thats why we've had matic and jorgino play behind him for chelsea and sat deeper.
It seems like you are just making things up to be honest. Ndidid hasn't dominated kante at all. Infact didn't kante score in a win against leicester.
Stop making things up, kante has gotten better since leaving leicester and won poty.
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I just looked at the games since Ndidi joined us and it’s actually played six, won one, lost one and drawn four.
Ndidi does boss Kante but whether you choose to agree with that or not is up to you. I know I watch their personal battle and pay particular attention to it and Kante is like a little school kid playing against Ndidi, he can’t get close to him because Ndidi just holds him off and his spider like legs just win the ball back. He’s just a far more physical player and considerably taller and stronger than Kante.
posted on 16/11/20
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 17 minutes ago
Kante being a defensive midfielder is something that is often stated but isn’t true - a DM is considered someone who sits and that has always been the midfielder beside Kante. In truth he is a box to box midfielder whose main qualities are in terms of defensive characteristics.
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Now that I can agree with.
posted on 16/11/20
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 26 minutes ago
"I guess the best test of “which team is better” would be to play Leicester’s title team vs this current one. Hypothetically of course."
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In what circumstance though? In a one-off friendly with nothing riding on it or with the pressure on to claim a big prize?
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Let’s just go for a competitive league game. Mid season, both teams fighting for the top 4.
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Best bet's a draw then. Puncher vs. counterpuncher. Could go either way.
posted on 16/11/20
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
I see this has rather taken off with Arro back.
In response to a few things I've seen in both the OP and since:
- Are Leicester better than England? Personnel-wise I'd say probably not, with a few exceptions: Schmeichel, Tielemans, CBs are probably questionable and - personal choice maybe - but I'd have Vardy over anyone, including Kane. As a match, it's always difficult to tell with international football because the players spend more time together to build an understanding in their club teams. I might back Leicester to win a match right now, but with caveats of familiarity and form. If England were a club team and in a similar level of form, I think they'd be better. They have too many good attacking options not to be.
- Chilwell is better than Castagne; Castagne's started well, but we just didn't see the best of Chilwell last season.
- Kante is better than Ndidi. As much as Ndidi's ball recovery stats are excellent, there's a reason why the top clubs haven't been sniffing around and it's that he's pretty average on the ball.
- Maguire is not as good as any of our 3 first choice CBs and we always have had Man Utd's pants down with that price.
- This current Leicester City team is /not/ as good as the title winning side. Or at least, not yet. That's something that they're going to have to prove. Just because we'd rate the personnel individually higher doesn't mean that they're as good as a team. While it's true that the stars aligned for them, the mentality the title winning team had was phenomenal.
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I think this is a great post Dunge and I agree with most of it. The one bit I might take some issue with is:
"Chilwell is better than Castagne"
I don't think we could definitively state that at the moment as it's far too early to say.
Chilwell looks like he's started pretty well at Chelsea and is happy and in good form. His form for us, however, was characterized by mediocre performances and poor quality in the final third. We see now that this might be an issue of confidence and not just ability, but that might explain why so often he got to a position of attacking threat before looking backwards and failing to deliver any quality. That wasn't just last season and, as I said, his Leicester days were characterised by these issues.
Castagne has started well, but he's only a few games into his Leicester career. It's probably hard to make a comparison with BC at the moment as none of us have even seen him live. Similarly I will be interested to see how Chilwell gets on at Chelsea when the fans are back in the stadiums and there is a full and expectant crowd. Let's not forget that the best players have the attributes of a great mentality as well as great ability. Ben Chilwell was ok for us, but he wasn't even as good as Christian Fuchs apart from the advantage he had of pace and youthful athleticism over the latter.
posted on 18/11/20
Annoying thing with the chilwell situation is this - plays at Leicester everyone thinks he’s crap - moves to Chelsea and suddenly he’s the best left back in the country.
posted on 18/11/20
Put it this way, there’s not one Leicester fan that would swap chilwell for castangne and fofana. Guess everyone got a good deal all round
posted on 18/11/20
On topic, no Leicester wouldn’t beat England
posted on 18/11/20
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 2 days, 4 hours ago
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 26 minutes ago
"I guess the best test of “which team is better” would be to play Leicester’s title team vs this current one. Hypothetically of course."
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In what circumstance though? In a one-off friendly with nothing riding on it or with the pressure on to claim a big prize?
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Let’s just go for a competitive league game. Mid season, both teams fighting for the top 4.
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Best bet's a draw then. Puncher vs. counterpuncher. Could go either way.
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It's the title winning team for me, it would be a perfect set up against the current side, they'd concede 70% possession and hit on the break. The evidence we have on the present side is they wouldn't be able to break down Ranieri's superbly disciplined defence and Rodgers wouldn't have a clue what to do about it.
1-0 to 2015/16.
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