Bringing in a new Manager would mean to back them with a significant transfer budget, which I genuinely think due to COVID-19, we do not have.
It's hard to remain positive with his appointment, and the fact that we only seem to win with penalties, as amusing as it was at first, has now become a sad parody.
We spend a significant transfer budget every season no matter who the manager,
It’s about time we bring in a manager who can get the best out of what he has and can make good players even better. Wonder who that guy is? đ¤
OP is quite correctly questioning the club's objectives; reading between the lines I agree Ed must go and replaced with someone that aligns more closely with Ole's vision.
Ole as has been clear and vocal in his goal to get United back to winning league titles ... the owners and their pet monkey Ed Woodward in contrast have not.
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posted 1 minute ago
It’s about time we bring in a manager who can get the best out of what he has and can make good players even better. Wonder who that guy is? đ¤
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Jose
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comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb Pochettino - 𧢠Make United Great Again (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
It’s about time we bring in a manager who can get the best out of what he has and can make good players even better. Wonder who that guy is? đ¤
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Jose
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He’s showing what a great manager he is right now. Seems that his time at United was the outlier.
#blameEd
Yep, have to agree. Poch and anise would both be getting more from the current squad, hence the question re what the clubs are objectives are currently.
comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yep, have to agree. Poch and anise would both be getting more from the current squad, hence the question re what the clubs are objectives are currently.
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Poch and who ?
Jose had his shot and blew it
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yep, have to agree. Poch and anise would both be getting more from the current squad, hence the question re what the clubs are objectives are currently.
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Poch and who ?
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anise...he's a real star
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 2 minutes ago
Jose had his shot and blew it
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Was still our best post SAF manager. He’ll probably go and win the league at Spurs and Ed and our club will look even more stupid.
If United can't win the league then I hope Spurs do.
If Jose can do it there then maybe, finally, the penny will drop at OT that there isn't a proper structure in place to get us back to the top.
It's shocking that since we won the PL in 2013 a team has been promoted, nearly got relegated and then won the league. That means there should be no excuses really
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 4 minutes ago
Jose had his shot and blew it
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Maybe the players played a bigger part than we first believed.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 8 seconds ago
If United can't win the league then I hope Spurs do.
If Jose can do it there then maybe, finally, the penny will drop at OT that there isn't a proper structure in place to get us back to the top.
It's shocking that since we won the PL in 2013 a team has been promoted, nearly got relegated and then won the league. That means there should be no excuses really
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I don’t see how a change of structure gets the team playing better.
comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 4 minutes ago
Jose had his shot and blew it
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Maybe the players played a bigger part than we first believed.
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Isnt the narrative about managers getting the best out of players
And i see you are still ignoring the elephant in the room
Dumbo Ed
I didn't complain while he was here, but I was delighted when he left,, disliked by players and fans alike. His record was good until the season he went, but the football was awful.
I've no grudge and if he takes Spurs to the title good luck to him.
Our game yesterday was like a Jose game, but plenty aren't.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 44 minutes ago
If United can't win the league then I hope Spurs do.
If Jose can do it there then maybe, finally, the penny will drop at OT that there isn't a proper structure in place to get us back to the top.
It's shocking that since we won the PL in 2013 a team has been promoted, nearly got relegated and then won the league. That means there should be no excuses really
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Can't agree Diafol. How many times does it happen in the example you gave.
How much is down to inheriting players that return to fitness to form. Does luck ever play a part.
Why didn't Jose get us challenging?
So many nuances.
I never really got the impression that Jose was happy or settled in the job or that he particularly liked living in Manchester.
The spurs job back in London with no real expectations was probably perfect for him when it came up.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 59 minutes ago
If United can't win the league then I hope Spurs do.
If Jose can do it there then maybe, finally, the penny will drop at OT that there isn't a proper structure in place to get us back to the top.
It's shocking that since we won the PL in 2013 a team has been promoted, nearly got relegated and then won the league. That means there should be no excuses really
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It's not about structures
Spurs havent won anything of note in decades. Keep hearing about how well they are run but still don't do it on the pitch.
It would just be an anomaly if they won, like Leicester did.
Pool and City are injury hit or declining (in City's case), this creates one of those perfect storms for someone else to jump in and win. Could well be spurs but I doubt it.
I'd put my money on Liverpool sadly
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 4 minutes ago
I never really got the impression that Jose was happy or settled in the job or that he particularly liked living in Manchester.
The spurs job back in London with no real expectations was probably perfect for him when it came up.
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I don’t actually disagree with you here. I think he did a better job than some will admit at United but him living out of a hotel didn’t really do his situation any favours.
comment by Robb Pochettino - 𧢠Make United Great Again (U22311)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 4 minutes ago
I never really got the impression that Jose was happy or settled in the job or that he particularly liked living in Manchester.
The spurs job back in London with no real expectations was probably perfect for him when it came up.
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I don’t actually disagree with you here. I think he did a better job than some will admit at United but him living out of a hotel didn’t really do his situation any favours.
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Robb he came in with the expectations of winning either or both of the PL or the CL
They never happened but sadly he lived up to all other expectations.
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Pochettino - 𧢠Make United Great Again (U22311)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 4 minutes ago
I never really got the impression that Jose was happy or settled in the job or that he particularly liked living in Manchester.
The spurs job back in London with no real expectations was probably perfect for him when it came up.
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I don’t actually disagree with you here. I think he did a better job than some will admit at United but him living out of a hotel didn’t really do his situation any favours.
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Robb he came in with the expectations of winning either or both of the PL or the CL
They never happened but sadly he lived up to all other expectations.
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He came in at a time when during his normal second season title winning moment Pep’s City were at their peak and getting 100 points. He still got a points total that would have won league titles (2 more points that we got in winning our title in the treble season).
Timing is everything. He was sacked without winning a title so he failed. No one doubts that. But he still improved us on LVG and when he left we’ve gone downhill.
While we persist with a guy out if his depth, Jose has gone somewhere else and is already doing a better job than Ole in half the time.
comment by Robb Pochettino - 𧢠Make United Great Again (U22311)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Pochettino - 𧢠Make United Great Again (U22311)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 4 minutes ago
I never really got the impression that Jose was happy or settled in the job or that he particularly liked living in Manchester.
The spurs job back in London with no real expectations was probably perfect for him when it came up.
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I don’t actually disagree with you here. I think he did a better job than some will admit at United but him living out of a hotel didn’t really do his situation any favours.
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Robb he came in with the expectations of winning either or both of the PL or the CL
They never happened but sadly he lived up to all other expectations.
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He came in at a time when during his normal second season title winning moment Pep’s City were at their peak and getting 100 points. He still got a points total that would have won league titles (2 more points that we got in winning our title in the treble season).
Timing is everything. He was sacked without winning a title so he failed. No one doubts that. But he still improved us on LVG and when he left we’ve gone downhill.
While we persist with a guy out if his depth, Jose has gone somewhere else and is already doing a better job than Ole in half the time.
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His USP according to you when you were campaigning for his appointment was to have us champions again
He failed end of
Save everything about their abilities when Jose finishing 2nd is considered a failure yet Oles 3rd place finish is a great success.
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posted on 22/11/20
Bringing in a new Manager would mean to back them with a significant transfer budget, which I genuinely think due to COVID-19, we do not have.
It's hard to remain positive with his appointment, and the fact that we only seem to win with penalties, as amusing as it was at first, has now become a sad parody.
posted on 22/11/20
We spend a significant transfer budget every season no matter who the manager,
posted on 22/11/20
It’s about time we bring in a manager who can get the best out of what he has and can make good players even better. Wonder who that guy is? đ¤
posted on 22/11/20
OP is quite correctly questioning the club's objectives; reading between the lines I agree Ed must go and replaced with someone that aligns more closely with Ole's vision.
Ole as has been clear and vocal in his goal to get United back to winning league titles ... the owners and their pet monkey Ed Woodward in contrast have not.
posted on 22/11/20
comment by Robb Pochettino - 𧢠Make United Great Again (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
It’s about time we bring in a manager who can get the best out of what he has and can make good players even better. Wonder who that guy is? đ¤
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose
đ¤
posted on 22/11/20
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb Pochettino - 𧢠Make United Great Again (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
It’s about time we bring in a manager who can get the best out of what he has and can make good players even better. Wonder who that guy is? đ¤
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Jose
đ¤
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He’s showing what a great manager he is right now. Seems that his time at United was the outlier.
#blameEd
posted on 22/11/20
Yep, have to agree. Poch and anise would both be getting more from the current squad, hence the question re what the clubs are objectives are currently.
posted on 22/11/20
comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yep, have to agree. Poch and anise would both be getting more from the current squad, hence the question re what the clubs are objectives are currently.
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Poch and who ?
posted on 22/11/20
Sorry, Jose.
posted on 22/11/20
Jose had his shot and blew it
posted on 22/11/20
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yep, have to agree. Poch and anise would both be getting more from the current squad, hence the question re what the clubs are objectives are currently.
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Poch and who ?
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anise...he's a real star
posted on 22/11/20
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 2 minutes ago
Jose had his shot and blew it
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Was still our best post SAF manager. He’ll probably go and win the league at Spurs and Ed and our club will look even more stupid.
posted on 22/11/20
If United can't win the league then I hope Spurs do.
If Jose can do it there then maybe, finally, the penny will drop at OT that there isn't a proper structure in place to get us back to the top.
It's shocking that since we won the PL in 2013 a team has been promoted, nearly got relegated and then won the league. That means there should be no excuses really
posted on 22/11/20
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 4 minutes ago
Jose had his shot and blew it
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Maybe the players played a bigger part than we first believed.
posted on 22/11/20
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 8 seconds ago
If United can't win the league then I hope Spurs do.
If Jose can do it there then maybe, finally, the penny will drop at OT that there isn't a proper structure in place to get us back to the top.
It's shocking that since we won the PL in 2013 a team has been promoted, nearly got relegated and then won the league. That means there should be no excuses really
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I don’t see how a change of structure gets the team playing better.
posted on 22/11/20
comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 4 minutes ago
Jose had his shot and blew it
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Maybe the players played a bigger part than we first believed.
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Isnt the narrative about managers getting the best out of players
And i see you are still ignoring the elephant in the room
Dumbo Ed
posted on 22/11/20
I didn't complain while he was here, but I was delighted when he left,, disliked by players and fans alike. His record was good until the season he went, but the football was awful.
I've no grudge and if he takes Spurs to the title good luck to him.
Our game yesterday was like a Jose game, but plenty aren't.
posted on 22/11/20
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 44 minutes ago
If United can't win the league then I hope Spurs do.
If Jose can do it there then maybe, finally, the penny will drop at OT that there isn't a proper structure in place to get us back to the top.
It's shocking that since we won the PL in 2013 a team has been promoted, nearly got relegated and then won the league. That means there should be no excuses really
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Can't agree Diafol. How many times does it happen in the example you gave.
How much is down to inheriting players that return to fitness to form. Does luck ever play a part.
Why didn't Jose get us challenging?
So many nuances.
posted on 22/11/20
I never really got the impression that Jose was happy or settled in the job or that he particularly liked living in Manchester.
The spurs job back in London with no real expectations was probably perfect for him when it came up.
posted on 22/11/20
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 59 minutes ago
If United can't win the league then I hope Spurs do.
If Jose can do it there then maybe, finally, the penny will drop at OT that there isn't a proper structure in place to get us back to the top.
It's shocking that since we won the PL in 2013 a team has been promoted, nearly got relegated and then won the league. That means there should be no excuses really
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not about structures
Spurs havent won anything of note in decades. Keep hearing about how well they are run but still don't do it on the pitch.
It would just be an anomaly if they won, like Leicester did.
Pool and City are injury hit or declining (in City's case), this creates one of those perfect storms for someone else to jump in and win. Could well be spurs but I doubt it.
I'd put my money on Liverpool sadly
posted on 22/11/20
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 4 minutes ago
I never really got the impression that Jose was happy or settled in the job or that he particularly liked living in Manchester.
The spurs job back in London with no real expectations was probably perfect for him when it came up.
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I don’t actually disagree with you here. I think he did a better job than some will admit at United but him living out of a hotel didn’t really do his situation any favours.
posted on 22/11/20
comment by Robb Pochettino - 𧢠Make United Great Again (U22311)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 4 minutes ago
I never really got the impression that Jose was happy or settled in the job or that he particularly liked living in Manchester.
The spurs job back in London with no real expectations was probably perfect for him when it came up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t actually disagree with you here. I think he did a better job than some will admit at United but him living out of a hotel didn’t really do his situation any favours.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Robb he came in with the expectations of winning either or both of the PL or the CL
They never happened but sadly he lived up to all other expectations.
posted on 22/11/20
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Pochettino - 𧢠Make United Great Again (U22311)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 4 minutes ago
I never really got the impression that Jose was happy or settled in the job or that he particularly liked living in Manchester.
The spurs job back in London with no real expectations was probably perfect for him when it came up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t actually disagree with you here. I think he did a better job than some will admit at United but him living out of a hotel didn’t really do his situation any favours.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Robb he came in with the expectations of winning either or both of the PL or the CL
They never happened but sadly he lived up to all other expectations.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He came in at a time when during his normal second season title winning moment Pep’s City were at their peak and getting 100 points. He still got a points total that would have won league titles (2 more points that we got in winning our title in the treble season).
Timing is everything. He was sacked without winning a title so he failed. No one doubts that. But he still improved us on LVG and when he left we’ve gone downhill.
While we persist with a guy out if his depth, Jose has gone somewhere else and is already doing a better job than Ole in half the time.
posted on 22/11/20
comment by Robb Pochettino - 𧢠Make United Great Again (U22311)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Pochettino - 𧢠Make United Great Again (U22311)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 4 minutes ago
I never really got the impression that Jose was happy or settled in the job or that he particularly liked living in Manchester.
The spurs job back in London with no real expectations was probably perfect for him when it came up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t actually disagree with you here. I think he did a better job than some will admit at United but him living out of a hotel didn’t really do his situation any favours.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Robb he came in with the expectations of winning either or both of the PL or the CL
They never happened but sadly he lived up to all other expectations.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He came in at a time when during his normal second season title winning moment Pep’s City were at their peak and getting 100 points. He still got a points total that would have won league titles (2 more points that we got in winning our title in the treble season).
Timing is everything. He was sacked without winning a title so he failed. No one doubts that. But he still improved us on LVG and when he left we’ve gone downhill.
While we persist with a guy out if his depth, Jose has gone somewhere else and is already doing a better job than Ole in half the time.
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His USP according to you when you were campaigning for his appointment was to have us champions again
He failed end of
posted on 22/11/20
Save everything about their abilities when Jose finishing 2nd is considered a failure yet Oles 3rd place finish is a great success.
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