At the moment we only have footballers from 60/70s when the ball probably weighed more than Kepa.
Don't think the modern football has the same impact.
high profile cases of dementia amongst former players
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looking forward to that!
It's something that football is desperately hoping will go away because of how much it would change our game. One of the rules I used to loathe when I was younger (90s) was a head height rule being applied. But how else do you get around not being able to head the ball? It would change the very structure of how the game would be played.
I hope (for the future of the sport) that any correlation here is to do with the old, heavy balls rather than the repeated action of heading the ball. Although even then there is something in devising different rules for youth football where you're still taught to judge the flight of a ball but any heading is reduced from the game.
But if the problem is caused mainly by the constant, repeated action of heading rather than the weight of the ball itself then football has a massive problem.
Has it actually been confirmed the issues occur due to heading the ball and not, for example, clashing heads?
I think it's something that needs to be researched further because we are talking about 2 different era's of football and 2 different styles of ball. I don't know how they have changed it, but I can imagine balls these days have a more lighter feeling in them in comparison to the bowling balls used pre and post-war and then even the balls that were used in the 70's and 80's.
As TOOR has mentioned above, the severity of tackles are much different these days as well.
I think it’s fairly relevant these days too. Thiago Silva says he’s been suffering from terrible’ headaches since joining Chelsea.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 33 minutes ago
Has it actually been confirmed the issues occur due to heading the ball and not, for example, clashing heads?
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Its my understanding from the reports I've seen and read that the cause of several former players dementia has been attributed to repeatedly heading the old heavy balls
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 55 minutes ago
high profile cases of dementia amongst former players
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looking forward to that!
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Not heard of it, played a lot of football have you morespurs?
comment by a foxes voice (U1133)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 55 minutes ago
high profile cases of dementia amongst former players
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looking forward to that!
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Not heard of it, played a lot of football have you morespurs?
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Yeah, I can't tell what this post is supposed to mean, whether it's sarcastic or not.
comment by a foxes voice (U1133)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 55 minutes ago
high profile cases of dementia amongst former players
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looking forward to that!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not heard of it, played a lot of football have you morespurs?
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Yeah, if it's true I am going to feel like a mug. I used really spring high and hit with my head very hard, and also receive high balls with my head!
ffs, seriously worrying me!
But if the problem is caused mainly by the constant, repeated action of heading rather than the weight of the ball itself then football has a massive problem.
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Unfortunately I think there is evidence coming to light that the repetitive nature of it could be the cause. In which case I agree with Dunge, it’s a very difficult one to manage.
Do you fundamentally change the game, or accept, like boxing that it’s an occupational hazard that you accept?!
Neither feel like a satisfactory answer really, which is why, to Dunges point, I think most are hoping that the modern footballs have fixed this and looking for evidence to the contrary.
I was involved with under age football for many
Year in the Republic of Ireland,
Our village club had. 260 kids under 11yrs including including the academy and 180 kids 11/16yrs
I was a certified coach having taken the course with the
FAI,
introduction, basics 1&2 coaching & goal keeper7 a side, 9 a side, 11 aside pt 1&2
and 2 yrs doing youth badges
Before I moved home I was looking art getting my uafa B badge (and finding £4k)
I was assistant under age secretary for 2 yrs and secretary for about the same,,
I'm home 8 yrs?
So 12/14 years ago the FAI banned heading
In junior teams in training,,
To practise the only way allowed was for the child
To throw the ball up into the air them self's,
Not even underarm from another child was allowed,
I guessing it's sill the same.
Would people in today’s game give up heading and the risk of dementia later in life if the game suddenly loses its appeal and the millions of pounds of income disappears with it?
I'd be surprised if the modern lighter balls caused as many problems,,
But ld like to see figures for the lower leagues,
But definitely reduce it in training
And ban it for under 12s
Except the throw to self and limit it once a month or 5 throws,
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posted on 24/11/20
At the moment we only have footballers from 60/70s when the ball probably weighed more than Kepa.
Don't think the modern football has the same impact.
posted on 24/11/20
high profile cases of dementia amongst former players
==================
looking forward to that!
posted on 24/11/20
It's something that football is desperately hoping will go away because of how much it would change our game. One of the rules I used to loathe when I was younger (90s) was a head height rule being applied. But how else do you get around not being able to head the ball? It would change the very structure of how the game would be played.
I hope (for the future of the sport) that any correlation here is to do with the old, heavy balls rather than the repeated action of heading the ball. Although even then there is something in devising different rules for youth football where you're still taught to judge the flight of a ball but any heading is reduced from the game.
But if the problem is caused mainly by the constant, repeated action of heading rather than the weight of the ball itself then football has a massive problem.
posted on 24/11/20
Has it actually been confirmed the issues occur due to heading the ball and not, for example, clashing heads?
posted on 24/11/20
I think it's something that needs to be researched further because we are talking about 2 different era's of football and 2 different styles of ball. I don't know how they have changed it, but I can imagine balls these days have a more lighter feeling in them in comparison to the bowling balls used pre and post-war and then even the balls that were used in the 70's and 80's.
As TOOR has mentioned above, the severity of tackles are much different these days as well.
posted on 24/11/20
I think it’s fairly relevant these days too. Thiago Silva says he’s been suffering from terrible’ headaches since joining Chelsea.
posted on 24/11/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 33 minutes ago
Has it actually been confirmed the issues occur due to heading the ball and not, for example, clashing heads?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its my understanding from the reports I've seen and read that the cause of several former players dementia has been attributed to repeatedly heading the old heavy balls
posted on 24/11/20
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 55 minutes ago
high profile cases of dementia amongst former players
==================
looking forward to that!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not heard of it, played a lot of football have you morespurs?
posted on 24/11/20
comment by a foxes voice (U1133)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 55 minutes ago
high profile cases of dementia amongst former players
==================
looking forward to that!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not heard of it, played a lot of football have you morespurs?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, I can't tell what this post is supposed to mean, whether it's sarcastic or not.
posted on 24/11/20
comment by a foxes voice (U1133)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 55 minutes ago
high profile cases of dementia amongst former players
==================
looking forward to that!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not heard of it, played a lot of football have you morespurs?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, if it's true I am going to feel like a mug. I used really spring high and hit with my head very hard, and also receive high balls with my head!
ffs, seriously worrying me!
posted on 24/11/20
But if the problem is caused mainly by the constant, repeated action of heading rather than the weight of the ball itself then football has a massive problem.
————————
Unfortunately I think there is evidence coming to light that the repetitive nature of it could be the cause. In which case I agree with Dunge, it’s a very difficult one to manage.
Do you fundamentally change the game, or accept, like boxing that it’s an occupational hazard that you accept?!
Neither feel like a satisfactory answer really, which is why, to Dunges point, I think most are hoping that the modern footballs have fixed this and looking for evidence to the contrary.
posted on 24/11/20
I was involved with under age football for many
Year in the Republic of Ireland,
Our village club had. 260 kids under 11yrs including including the academy and 180 kids 11/16yrs
I was a certified coach having taken the course with the
FAI,
introduction, basics 1&2 coaching & goal keeper7 a side, 9 a side, 11 aside pt 1&2
and 2 yrs doing youth badges
Before I moved home I was looking art getting my uafa B badge (and finding £4k)
I was assistant under age secretary for 2 yrs and secretary for about the same,,
I'm home 8 yrs?
So 12/14 years ago the FAI banned heading
In junior teams in training,,
To practise the only way allowed was for the child
To throw the ball up into the air them self's,
Not even underarm from another child was allowed,
I guessing it's sill the same.
posted on 25/11/20
Would people in today’s game give up heading and the risk of dementia later in life if the game suddenly loses its appeal and the millions of pounds of income disappears with it?
posted on 25/11/20
I'd be surprised if the modern lighter balls caused as many problems,,
But ld like to see figures for the lower leagues,
But definitely reduce it in training
And ban it for under 12s
Except the throw to self and limit it once a month or 5 throws,
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