comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
something that isn't getting spoken about enough is that Hugo needs to get back to the shot stopping level he was at the last 2 seasons
Hafi Time
Post Shot Expected Goals +/- per 90 is how many goals you're conceding compared to what you would be expected to based on the quality of the shots you're facing. A positive number means you're conceding fewer goals than you'd be expected to, a negative means you're conceding more than you'd be expected to.
Lloris 18/19 +0.34
Lloris 19/20 +0.36
If you're still confused essentially this means that lloris was keeping out an extra goal every 3 games more than you would have expected him to given the shots he was facing.
If that doesn't sound like a lot, it is. In De Gea's lauded 17/18 season he hit +0.21 per 90.
Lloris 20/21 -0.12
If that doesn't sound that bad, it is. It's about where Jordan Pickford was at last season.
It's very early in the season still so we're dealing with a small sample size but it's something to think about even if you think stats are useles
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Might you have similar stats for other goalkeepers in the league?
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
something that isn't getting spoken about enough is that Hugo needs to get back to the shot stopping level he was at the last 2 seasons
Hafi Time
Post Shot Expected Goals +/- per 90 is how many goals you're conceding compared to what you would be expected to based on the quality of the shots you're facing. A positive number means you're conceding fewer goals than you'd be expected to, a negative means you're conceding more than you'd be expected to.
Lloris 18/19 +0.34
Lloris 19/20 +0.36
If you're still confused essentially this means that lloris was keeping out an extra goal every 3 games more than you would have expected him to given the shots he was facing.
If that doesn't sound like a lot, it is. In De Gea's lauded 17/18 season he hit +0.21 per 90.
Lloris 20/21 -0.12
If that doesn't sound that bad, it is. It's about where Jordan Pickford was at last season.
It's very early in the season still so we're dealing with a small sample size but it's something to think about even if you think stats are useles
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Might you have similar stats for other goalkeepers in the league?
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assume you mean Alisson?
18/19 +0.13
19/20 +0.02 (was much higher before project restart)
20/21 +0.17
Genuinely wanted to see stats for all keepers, or at least the top clubs.
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
something that isn't getting spoken about enough is that Hugo needs to get back to the shot stopping level he was at the last 2 seasons
Hafi Time
Post Shot Expected Goals +/- per 90 is how many goals you're conceding compared to what you would be expected to based on the quality of the shots you're facing. A positive number means you're conceding fewer goals than you'd be expected to, a negative means you're conceding more than you'd be expected to.
Lloris 18/19 +0.34
Lloris 19/20 +0.36
If you're still confused essentially this means that lloris was keeping out an extra goal every 3 games more than you would have expected him to given the shots he was facing.
If that doesn't sound like a lot, it is. In De Gea's lauded 17/18 season he hit +0.21 per 90.
Lloris 20/21 -0.12
If that doesn't sound that bad, it is. It's about where Jordan Pickford was at last season.
It's very early in the season still so we're dealing with a small sample size but it's something to think about even if you think stats are useles
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Might you have similar stats for other goalkeepers in the league?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
assume you mean Alisson?
18/19 +0.13
19/20 +0.02 (was much higher before project restart)
20/21 +0.17
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Interesting statistic, but to me sounds like a consultant making up metrics to sell something. I guess the guys at Opta need to keep "innovating".
So many questions really... How do you define the difficulty of the save? It is subjective.
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 54 minutes ago
Genuinely wanted to see stats for all keepers, or at least the top clubs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/keepersadv/Premier-League-Stats
Can find this season's keepers here for the PL under player advanced goalkeeping
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
something that isn't getting spoken about enough is that Hugo needs to get back to the shot stopping level he was at the last 2 seasons
Hafi Time
Post Shot Expected Goals +/- per 90 is how many goals you're conceding compared to what you would be expected to based on the quality of the shots you're facing. A positive number means you're conceding fewer goals than you'd be expected to, a negative means you're conceding more than you'd be expected to.
Lloris 18/19 +0.34
Lloris 19/20 +0.36
If you're still confused essentially this means that lloris was keeping out an extra goal every 3 games more than you would have expected him to given the shots he was facing.
If that doesn't sound like a lot, it is. In De Gea's lauded 17/18 season he hit +0.21 per 90.
Lloris 20/21 -0.12
If that doesn't sound that bad, it is. It's about where Jordan Pickford was at last season.
It's very early in the season still so we're dealing with a small sample size but it's something to think about even if you think stats are useles
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Might you have similar stats for other goalkeepers in the league?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
assume you mean Alisson?
18/19 +0.13
19/20 +0.02 (was much higher before project restart)
20/21 +0.17
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Interesting statistic, but to me sounds like a consultant making up metrics to sell something. I guess the guys at Opta need to keep "innovating".
So many questions really... How do you define the difficulty of the save? It is subjective.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you're curious you can read about post Shot Expected goal here though this can be quite a jarring read and I understand the scepticism
https://statsbomb.com/2018/11/a-new-way-to-measure-keepers-shot-stopping-post-shot-expected-goals/
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 54 minutes ago
Genuinely wanted to see stats for all keepers, or at least the top clubs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/keepersadv/Premier-League-Stats
Can find this season's keepers here for the PL under player advanced goalkeeping
----------------------------------------------------------------------
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posted on 25/11/20
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
something that isn't getting spoken about enough is that Hugo needs to get back to the shot stopping level he was at the last 2 seasons
Hafi Time
Post Shot Expected Goals +/- per 90 is how many goals you're conceding compared to what you would be expected to based on the quality of the shots you're facing. A positive number means you're conceding fewer goals than you'd be expected to, a negative means you're conceding more than you'd be expected to.
Lloris 18/19 +0.34
Lloris 19/20 +0.36
If you're still confused essentially this means that lloris was keeping out an extra goal every 3 games more than you would have expected him to given the shots he was facing.
If that doesn't sound like a lot, it is. In De Gea's lauded 17/18 season he hit +0.21 per 90.
Lloris 20/21 -0.12
If that doesn't sound that bad, it is. It's about where Jordan Pickford was at last season.
It's very early in the season still so we're dealing with a small sample size but it's something to think about even if you think stats are useles
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Might you have similar stats for other goalkeepers in the league?
posted on 25/11/20
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
something that isn't getting spoken about enough is that Hugo needs to get back to the shot stopping level he was at the last 2 seasons
Hafi Time
Post Shot Expected Goals +/- per 90 is how many goals you're conceding compared to what you would be expected to based on the quality of the shots you're facing. A positive number means you're conceding fewer goals than you'd be expected to, a negative means you're conceding more than you'd be expected to.
Lloris 18/19 +0.34
Lloris 19/20 +0.36
If you're still confused essentially this means that lloris was keeping out an extra goal every 3 games more than you would have expected him to given the shots he was facing.
If that doesn't sound like a lot, it is. In De Gea's lauded 17/18 season he hit +0.21 per 90.
Lloris 20/21 -0.12
If that doesn't sound that bad, it is. It's about where Jordan Pickford was at last season.
It's very early in the season still so we're dealing with a small sample size but it's something to think about even if you think stats are useles
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Might you have similar stats for other goalkeepers in the league?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
assume you mean Alisson?
18/19 +0.13
19/20 +0.02 (was much higher before project restart)
20/21 +0.17
posted on 25/11/20
Genuinely wanted to see stats for all keepers, or at least the top clubs.
posted on 25/11/20
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
something that isn't getting spoken about enough is that Hugo needs to get back to the shot stopping level he was at the last 2 seasons
Hafi Time
Post Shot Expected Goals +/- per 90 is how many goals you're conceding compared to what you would be expected to based on the quality of the shots you're facing. A positive number means you're conceding fewer goals than you'd be expected to, a negative means you're conceding more than you'd be expected to.
Lloris 18/19 +0.34
Lloris 19/20 +0.36
If you're still confused essentially this means that lloris was keeping out an extra goal every 3 games more than you would have expected him to given the shots he was facing.
If that doesn't sound like a lot, it is. In De Gea's lauded 17/18 season he hit +0.21 per 90.
Lloris 20/21 -0.12
If that doesn't sound that bad, it is. It's about where Jordan Pickford was at last season.
It's very early in the season still so we're dealing with a small sample size but it's something to think about even if you think stats are useles
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Might you have similar stats for other goalkeepers in the league?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
assume you mean Alisson?
18/19 +0.13
19/20 +0.02 (was much higher before project restart)
20/21 +0.17
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Interesting statistic, but to me sounds like a consultant making up metrics to sell something. I guess the guys at Opta need to keep "innovating".
So many questions really... How do you define the difficulty of the save? It is subjective.
posted on 25/11/20
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 54 minutes ago
Genuinely wanted to see stats for all keepers, or at least the top clubs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/keepersadv/Premier-League-Stats
Can find this season's keepers here for the PL under player advanced goalkeeping
posted on 25/11/20
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
something that isn't getting spoken about enough is that Hugo needs to get back to the shot stopping level he was at the last 2 seasons
Hafi Time
Post Shot Expected Goals +/- per 90 is how many goals you're conceding compared to what you would be expected to based on the quality of the shots you're facing. A positive number means you're conceding fewer goals than you'd be expected to, a negative means you're conceding more than you'd be expected to.
Lloris 18/19 +0.34
Lloris 19/20 +0.36
If you're still confused essentially this means that lloris was keeping out an extra goal every 3 games more than you would have expected him to given the shots he was facing.
If that doesn't sound like a lot, it is. In De Gea's lauded 17/18 season he hit +0.21 per 90.
Lloris 20/21 -0.12
If that doesn't sound that bad, it is. It's about where Jordan Pickford was at last season.
It's very early in the season still so we're dealing with a small sample size but it's something to think about even if you think stats are useles
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Might you have similar stats for other goalkeepers in the league?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
assume you mean Alisson?
18/19 +0.13
19/20 +0.02 (was much higher before project restart)
20/21 +0.17
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Interesting statistic, but to me sounds like a consultant making up metrics to sell something. I guess the guys at Opta need to keep "innovating".
So many questions really... How do you define the difficulty of the save? It is subjective.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you're curious you can read about post Shot Expected goal here though this can be quite a jarring read and I understand the scepticism
https://statsbomb.com/2018/11/a-new-way-to-measure-keepers-shot-stopping-post-shot-expected-goals/
posted on 25/11/20
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 54 minutes ago
Genuinely wanted to see stats for all keepers, or at least the top clubs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/keepersadv/Premier-League-Stats
Can find this season's keepers here for the PL under player advanced goalkeeping
----------------------------------------------------------------------
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