I said this a million facking times over the last 10 years on this forum. That the deluded AKB would be our downfall, supporting Wenger no matter what damage he caused, and every year he chose to stay would add another 2 years on to a much needed rebuild. And the deluded AKB continued to (and unbelievably some still do) back him. But someone who has barely been in the job a year gets no backing whatsoever. If the AKB were as ruthless with Wenger as they have been with his replacements, maybe we wouldn’t be in this situation.
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Wenger was scoring goals with likes of Denilson in midfield and Sanogo in attack. That says all.
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Ugh good should have known by your Ozil fanboying that you are a disgusting AKB
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So what if I am Ozil fanboy? He is still better than what we have now.
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Idk if you are an Ozil fanboy. But the fact there are still AKBs out there after the mess he has left us in is disgusting
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What mess? You lot are talking like he left us in Championship. He had bad last 2 seasons, it passed enough time that those 2 seasons don't have influence on today's team. Arteta insisted on keeping Xhaka, Arteta picks Bellerin, Arteta let Ozil play fortnite at home for 350k, Arteta plays Holding, Arteta plays Willian, and signed him on 3 years.
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Apart from Wilner, Wenger signed all those players
Xhaka, Mustafi, Holding, Chambers, Lacazette, Kolasinac, Elneny - that’s about £150M worth of dross and another £600k/week on ages, without including the £350k/week Ozil is on. That’s the mess Wenger left us in. You ask why he plays dross and then criticise him for not playing other dross in the form of Ozil. Should he send all of Wenger’s flops to Ozil’s for a game of squads on fortnite?
I get the AKB being loyal to Wenger despite a decade of underachievement and failure, but if you can’t see the damage his overstay has caused us, when the man himself admits he probably should have left sooner, then you are completely clueless.
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Do you see what you write? Arteta is playing this players. He has other non-Wenger players to play. Nobody is saying Wenger didn't buy them, problem is Arteta is playing them.
But he has to play them because they are so garbage that no other club will take them
And not just them. Emery’s garbage flops too like Pepe, Luiz and Leno.
comment by Aré is Foot (U10984)
posted 35 minutes ago
Arteta out? And replace him with who? Nobody worthwhile is available apart from Poch, and the chances of an ex Spurs manager coming to us are slim to none.
I blame Arteta for the 11 he puts on the pitch, but I blame (the majority of) that 11 for the way they play.
If you look at how we've played in the last couple of EL games, then I suspect that this is how he wants us to play in the PL. The problem is that he isn't putting the personnel on the pitch that can/will do that. Xhaka, Holding, Bellerin, Willian, and unfortunately Auba, don't deserve to be in that 1st eleven at the moment. I understand why Auba starts, but Arteta doesn't have the same excuse to be starting the others. Especially in MF. Why wasn't Elneny or Ceba chosen ahead of Xhaka? Why wasn't AMN on the pitch either in MF or as RB? As Mari and Luiz have suffered recent injuries I get why Holding started today, but what the fook is going on with Saliba? I can't understand why he isn't an option this season. Nelson should have been ahead of Willian now - even if he isn't the finished article. Willian has been awful since the 2nd game.
I'm of the opinion that the majority of our usual first team should be the ones starting in the EL, and the EL team should be starting in the Prem. They may not be the same quality on paper, but atleast our EL team pass forward and put the effort in!
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You just blamed the players and then went on to show how the manager's actions and choices affect said players.
The Europa team have a dynamic midfield. Even in games where they are sluggish and bad, they always seem to be looking to pass forward. The youngsters are also making runs (willock and Reiss-Nelson). Those things have to come together to get a performance like you saw on Thursday. I am hoping Pepe can turn the Europa League form into PL form but we have to wait to see that.
Back to my point about the MF. Xhaka is a PROBLEM. A major one too. He does nothing to warrant a start. When we played a 343 last season and this, it was not only to shield the defence but to help out our incredibly slow and poorly positioned midfield. Watching today's game and the one vs Wolves, Xhaka now plays very much as a CB. He is everywhere Gabriel is and vacated the midfield. This means there are massive gaps in midfield which mean his Partner has to do double the work and the forward has to come deeper. Also...Xhaka rarely passed forward. Even if the pass is on...he almost always goes out left or back or to his midfield partners. When the ball is not coming forward, as a striker, you may stop making runs...the ball is never coming so why bother. And due to how slow Xhaka is and the number of touches he has to take, by the time that ball us getting to any forward player, the opposition are back.
So yeah...players are a problem (Bellerin, Xhaka, Willian, Holding) but they dont pick themselves. The only person who has the power to fix this team is Arteta. And he seems to continue to pick crap players week in week out.
And I know people will point to giving Willock a chance and that did not work...again..playing with Xhaka and Ceballos as the CM pairing...no one in that front 4 is going to look good.
And I know people will point to giving Willock a chance and that did not work...again..playing with Xhaka and Ceballos as the CM pairing...no one in that front 4 is going to look good.
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He needs to be brave and continue with these players, they need a good run of games, a real chance. Not the odd game here and there then dropped for the next if their performance dips slightly.
Get Maitland-Niles & Willock in our Premier League starting XI more often and less Xhaka please, easy. Start getting the other young players more involved too. Nketiah, give him more PL time. Balogun, give him some, Smith-Rowe, why not? Can't be any worse than Willian, Laca, Xhaka & Auba lately.
I blame them both. Arteta for continuing with picking them, but the players are largely responsible for what they do on the pitch. It is them that are putting very little effort in. They have performed to a much higher standard in the past, and are capable of playing in the same, or similar, way that the EL team does. Maybe not Xhaka, to be fair, so picking him is a massive, massive, question mark over Artetas head.
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And I know people will point to giving Willock a chance and that did not work...again..playing with Xhaka and Ceballos as the CM pairing...no one in that front 4 is going to look good.
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He needs to be brave and continue with these players, they need a good run of games, a real chance. Not the odd game here and there then dropped for the next if their performance dips slightly.
Get Maitland-Niles & Willock in our Premier League starting XI more often and less Xhaka please, easy. Start getting the other young players more involved too. Nketiah, give him more PL time. Balogun, give him some, Smith-Rowe, why not? Can't be any worse than Willian, Laca, Xhaka & Auba lately.
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Agree completely. Apart from playing Eddie. Let’s be honest, he looks average at best.
You may be right, it's certainly borderline whether he has the potential ability to be a long term 1st XI player for a team with our ambitions and expectations.
However, he works hard and gets himself into good positions, he doesn't score all of them but he scores some and I like his fox-in-the-box poacher instincts over Lacazette's these days.
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He’s definitely the man for the job at Arsenal, he’s in that allardyce mould. Should stand you in good stead to avoid relegation.
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Please stop mate your not the United of old ffs where u could laugh at teams, your still a Joke of a club mate
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I wonder what he thinks of you being a 2012 City supporter?
Arsenal have now accumulated the third most crosses & corners in the Premier League. When it comes to accuracy, they rank 18th.
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Pulis would be proud.
And when it comes to chances created 20th.
People used to say NoBoDy CaN Do AnY bEtTeR wItH tHeSe PlAyErS when Wenger was in charge and I always laughed, but I actually don’t know who we can realistically bring in to do a better job than Arteta.
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And I know people will point to giving Willock a chance and that did not work...again..playing with Xhaka and Ceballos as the CM pairing...no one in that front 4 is going to look good.
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He needs to be brave and continue with these players, they need a good run of games, a real chance. Not the odd game here and there then dropped for the next if their performance dips slightly.
Get Maitland-Niles & Willock in our Premier League starting XI more often and less Xhaka please, easy. Start getting the other young players more involved too. Nketiah, give him more PL time. Balogun, give him some, Smith-Rowe, why not? Can't be any worse than Willian, Laca, Xhaka & Auba lately.
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Agree completely. Apart from playing Eddie. Let’s be honest, he looks average at best.
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Willock, AMN, etc are all poor and won't add anything to this team. Deluded to suggest otherwise.
Anyone would think that Emery never came within touching distance of CL football (and with a weaker team at that), the way some are diving to the "Blame everyone/thing else but Arteta" defence.
Reiss Nelson frozen out of the PL squad.
AMN frozen out of the PL starting lineup.
Choosing Leno over Martinez for this seasons campaign.
Stupidly wasting 10 games on a formation and strategy which was heavily reliant on Martinez to work.
Repeatedly starting a Willian who's clearly not up to task yet.
Despite finally changing the formation to a more positive one. Idiot still keeps the same "Pass to nowhere then loft a high ball from RB/LB position or run the line and cross in to no aerial threat" losing strategy.
Regardless what went on before he got here or how much money he's not being given to spend. Arteta has no excuse for the above decisions. He has a squad of players to get the job done and he knows what that squad is. NOBODY to blame but him for his bad decisions.
Something you should consider before defending him so hard, is the fact that he's been a hypocritical MF. Giving Leno back the No 1. spot and selling Emi. constantly starting Willian and Bellerin, no 1st team starts for Nelson and hardly any for AMN...
ALL break Arteta's own "I'm layin' down the law, 100% effort and the best player plays" rule. The one he shoved down everyone's throat when he came in. His subsequent choices make it abundantly clear, that was/is a bunch of BS. His favourites will always play, even when they're blatantly not up to the task a match may bring.
Not calling for his sacking, not big on that. However if he was suddenly sacked now, I'd not be mad, sad or disappointed about it. He can't even get basic player matchups right. This is not the manager to restore the Arsenal brand. We should have gotten Ancelotti when we had the chance. He knows how to get the best out of not that much..
Dubbed is pathetic, filters people then starts replying to their comments with insults they are unlikely to ever see.
You are deluded, they are all upgrades on Xhaka.
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posted on 6/12/20
I said this a million facking times over the last 10 years on this forum. That the deluded AKB would be our downfall, supporting Wenger no matter what damage he caused, and every year he chose to stay would add another 2 years on to a much needed rebuild. And the deluded AKB continued to (and unbelievably some still do) back him. But someone who has barely been in the job a year gets no backing whatsoever. If the AKB were as ruthless with Wenger as they have been with his replacements, maybe we wouldn’t be in this situation.
posted on 6/12/20
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Wenger was scoring goals with likes of Denilson in midfield and Sanogo in attack. That says all.
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Ugh good should have known by your Ozil fanboying that you are a disgusting AKB
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So what if I am Ozil fanboy? He is still better than what we have now.
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Idk if you are an Ozil fanboy. But the fact there are still AKBs out there after the mess he has left us in is disgusting
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What mess? You lot are talking like he left us in Championship. He had bad last 2 seasons, it passed enough time that those 2 seasons don't have influence on today's team. Arteta insisted on keeping Xhaka, Arteta picks Bellerin, Arteta let Ozil play fortnite at home for 350k, Arteta plays Holding, Arteta plays Willian, and signed him on 3 years.
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Apart from Wilner, Wenger signed all those players
Xhaka, Mustafi, Holding, Chambers, Lacazette, Kolasinac, Elneny - that’s about £150M worth of dross and another £600k/week on ages, without including the £350k/week Ozil is on. That’s the mess Wenger left us in. You ask why he plays dross and then criticise him for not playing other dross in the form of Ozil. Should he send all of Wenger’s flops to Ozil’s for a game of squads on fortnite?
I get the AKB being loyal to Wenger despite a decade of underachievement and failure, but if you can’t see the damage his overstay has caused us, when the man himself admits he probably should have left sooner, then you are completely clueless.
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Do you see what you write? Arteta is playing this players. He has other non-Wenger players to play. Nobody is saying Wenger didn't buy them, problem is Arteta is playing them.
posted on 6/12/20
But he has to play them because they are so garbage that no other club will take them
And not just them. Emery’s garbage flops too like Pepe, Luiz and Leno.
posted on 6/12/20
comment by Aré is Foot (U10984)
posted 35 minutes ago
Arteta out? And replace him with who? Nobody worthwhile is available apart from Poch, and the chances of an ex Spurs manager coming to us are slim to none.
I blame Arteta for the 11 he puts on the pitch, but I blame (the majority of) that 11 for the way they play.
If you look at how we've played in the last couple of EL games, then I suspect that this is how he wants us to play in the PL. The problem is that he isn't putting the personnel on the pitch that can/will do that. Xhaka, Holding, Bellerin, Willian, and unfortunately Auba, don't deserve to be in that 1st eleven at the moment. I understand why Auba starts, but Arteta doesn't have the same excuse to be starting the others. Especially in MF. Why wasn't Elneny or Ceba chosen ahead of Xhaka? Why wasn't AMN on the pitch either in MF or as RB? As Mari and Luiz have suffered recent injuries I get why Holding started today, but what the fook is going on with Saliba? I can't understand why he isn't an option this season. Nelson should have been ahead of Willian now - even if he isn't the finished article. Willian has been awful since the 2nd game.
I'm of the opinion that the majority of our usual first team should be the ones starting in the EL, and the EL team should be starting in the Prem. They may not be the same quality on paper, but atleast our EL team pass forward and put the effort in!
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You just blamed the players and then went on to show how the manager's actions and choices affect said players.
The Europa team have a dynamic midfield. Even in games where they are sluggish and bad, they always seem to be looking to pass forward. The youngsters are also making runs (willock and Reiss-Nelson). Those things have to come together to get a performance like you saw on Thursday. I am hoping Pepe can turn the Europa League form into PL form but we have to wait to see that.
Back to my point about the MF. Xhaka is a PROBLEM. A major one too. He does nothing to warrant a start. When we played a 343 last season and this, it was not only to shield the defence but to help out our incredibly slow and poorly positioned midfield. Watching today's game and the one vs Wolves, Xhaka now plays very much as a CB. He is everywhere Gabriel is and vacated the midfield. This means there are massive gaps in midfield which mean his Partner has to do double the work and the forward has to come deeper. Also...Xhaka rarely passed forward. Even if the pass is on...he almost always goes out left or back or to his midfield partners. When the ball is not coming forward, as a striker, you may stop making runs...the ball is never coming so why bother. And due to how slow Xhaka is and the number of touches he has to take, by the time that ball us getting to any forward player, the opposition are back.
So yeah...players are a problem (Bellerin, Xhaka, Willian, Holding) but they dont pick themselves. The only person who has the power to fix this team is Arteta. And he seems to continue to pick crap players week in week out.
And I know people will point to giving Willock a chance and that did not work...again..playing with Xhaka and Ceballos as the CM pairing...no one in that front 4 is going to look good.
posted on 6/12/20
And I know people will point to giving Willock a chance and that did not work...again..playing with Xhaka and Ceballos as the CM pairing...no one in that front 4 is going to look good.
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He needs to be brave and continue with these players, they need a good run of games, a real chance. Not the odd game here and there then dropped for the next if their performance dips slightly.
Get Maitland-Niles & Willock in our Premier League starting XI more often and less Xhaka please, easy. Start getting the other young players more involved too. Nketiah, give him more PL time. Balogun, give him some, Smith-Rowe, why not? Can't be any worse than Willian, Laca, Xhaka & Auba lately.
posted on 6/12/20
I blame them both. Arteta for continuing with picking them, but the players are largely responsible for what they do on the pitch. It is them that are putting very little effort in. They have performed to a much higher standard in the past, and are capable of playing in the same, or similar, way that the EL team does. Maybe not Xhaka, to be fair, so picking him is a massive, massive, question mark over Artetas head.
posted on 6/12/20
comment by You Can't Buy Class - IDHT2EU (U12019)
posted 13 minutes ago
And I know people will point to giving Willock a chance and that did not work...again..playing with Xhaka and Ceballos as the CM pairing...no one in that front 4 is going to look good.
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He needs to be brave and continue with these players, they need a good run of games, a real chance. Not the odd game here and there then dropped for the next if their performance dips slightly.
Get Maitland-Niles & Willock in our Premier League starting XI more often and less Xhaka please, easy. Start getting the other young players more involved too. Nketiah, give him more PL time. Balogun, give him some, Smith-Rowe, why not? Can't be any worse than Willian, Laca, Xhaka & Auba lately.
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Agree completely. Apart from playing Eddie. Let’s be honest, he looks average at best.
posted on 6/12/20
You may be right, it's certainly borderline whether he has the potential ability to be a long term 1st XI player for a team with our ambitions and expectations.
However, he works hard and gets himself into good positions, he doesn't score all of them but he scores some and I like his fox-in-the-box poacher instincts over Lacazette's these days.
posted on 6/12/20
comment by Paulpowersleftfoot 💯🏌🏾♂️Rock the Cas bah (U1037)
posted 4 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by 2-4-5 Trioxin (U22016)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 3 minutes ago
He’s definitely the man for the job at Arsenal, he’s in that allardyce mould. Should stand you in good stead to avoid relegation.
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Please stop mate your not the United of old ffs where u could laugh at teams, your still a Joke of a club mate
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I wonder what he thinks of you being a 2012 City supporter?
posted on 7/12/20
Arsenal have now accumulated the third most crosses & corners in the Premier League. When it comes to accuracy, they rank 18th.
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Pulis would be proud.
posted on 7/12/20
And when it comes to chances created 20th.
posted on 7/12/20
People used to say NoBoDy CaN Do AnY bEtTeR wItH tHeSe PlAyErS when Wenger was in charge and I always laughed, but I actually don’t know who we can realistically bring in to do a better job than Arteta.
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posted on 7/12/20
comment by £350k Förtnite Skin (U18355)
posted 11 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by You Can't Buy Class - IDHT2EU (U12019)
posted 13 minutes ago
And I know people will point to giving Willock a chance and that did not work...again..playing with Xhaka and Ceballos as the CM pairing...no one in that front 4 is going to look good.
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He needs to be brave and continue with these players, they need a good run of games, a real chance. Not the odd game here and there then dropped for the next if their performance dips slightly.
Get Maitland-Niles & Willock in our Premier League starting XI more often and less Xhaka please, easy. Start getting the other young players more involved too. Nketiah, give him more PL time. Balogun, give him some, Smith-Rowe, why not? Can't be any worse than Willian, Laca, Xhaka & Auba lately.
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Agree completely. Apart from playing Eddie. Let’s be honest, he looks average at best.
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Willock, AMN, etc are all poor and won't add anything to this team. Deluded to suggest otherwise.
posted on 7/12/20
Anyone would think that Emery never came within touching distance of CL football (and with a weaker team at that), the way some are diving to the "Blame everyone/thing else but Arteta" defence.
Reiss Nelson frozen out of the PL squad.
AMN frozen out of the PL starting lineup.
Choosing Leno over Martinez for this seasons campaign.
Stupidly wasting 10 games on a formation and strategy which was heavily reliant on Martinez to work.
Repeatedly starting a Willian who's clearly not up to task yet.
Despite finally changing the formation to a more positive one. Idiot still keeps the same "Pass to nowhere then loft a high ball from RB/LB position or run the line and cross in to no aerial threat" losing strategy.
Regardless what went on before he got here or how much money he's not being given to spend. Arteta has no excuse for the above decisions. He has a squad of players to get the job done and he knows what that squad is. NOBODY to blame but him for his bad decisions.
Something you should consider before defending him so hard, is the fact that he's been a hypocritical MF. Giving Leno back the No 1. spot and selling Emi. constantly starting Willian and Bellerin, no 1st team starts for Nelson and hardly any for AMN...
ALL break Arteta's own "I'm layin' down the law, 100% effort and the best player plays" rule. The one he shoved down everyone's throat when he came in. His subsequent choices make it abundantly clear, that was/is a bunch of BS. His favourites will always play, even when they're blatantly not up to the task a match may bring.
Not calling for his sacking, not big on that. However if he was suddenly sacked now, I'd not be mad, sad or disappointed about it. He can't even get basic player matchups right. This is not the manager to restore the Arsenal brand. We should have gotten Ancelotti when we had the chance. He knows how to get the best out of not that much..
posted on 7/12/20
Dubbed is pathetic, filters people then starts replying to their comments with insults they are unlikely to ever see.
You are deluded, they are all upgrades on Xhaka.
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