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Boring, boring Spurs, bit of a myth I think

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posted on 9/12/20

Jesus Sandy causes so much carnage with his articles

posted on 9/12/20

comment by SirLes (U6965)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SirLes (U6965)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 1 minute ago
Pragmatic football it could be described as 👍
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If pragmatism has earned Mourinho 5x the number of trophies than Klopp has, then I’m all for it.
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Each to their own, but it’s f*cking boring football, and we all know it.
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Well, what I know is the 2 goals we scored in the NLD will be something to remember. Arteta’s possession football and zero goals wouldn’t be. If you’d rather it be the other way around, then as you say, each to their own.
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You’re acting like we’ve never beaten Arsenal before.

posted on 9/12/20

comment by SirLes (U6965)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 54 seconds ago
Spurs score a lot of goals because of their style, but their style is still boring as fack. Parking the bus and counterattacking is a bit borinh tbh and has caught teams off guard. Teams will suss it out to some extent soon.
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Thanks for reading my comment

Liverpool sat deep in the CL final and conceded possession, which Spurs enjoyed having large amount of. Do you remember that? No! Why? It doesn't matter. Results matter!
Winning games matter.
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It's justified if you have a one goal lead in a Champions League final.

Having it as your general game plan is not the same thing.
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As the article shows, 49 goals in 20 games is hardly sitting on a 1-0 lead. Simple maths shows we’d have 20 goals, not 49, if that was the case
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So all your games have been Champions League finals?

posted on 9/12/20

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
Imagine including Europa league in the totals
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Exactly, even Arsenal have scored 16 goals in the Europa League this season
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and 10 in the league making it 26 goals so far....about half Spurs'

Spurs also amongst the highest scorers in the league too.

posted on 9/12/20

Playing conservatively in prem games against the likes of Brighton and Newcastle is not the same as defending a lead in a Champions league final.

posted on 9/12/20

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 54 seconds ago
Spurs score a lot of goals because of their style, but their style is still boring as fack. Parking the bus and counterattacking is a bit borinh tbh and has caught teams off guard. Teams will suss it out to some extent soon.
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Thanks for reading my comment

Liverpool sat deep in the CL final and conceded possession, which Spurs enjoyed having large amount of. Do you remember that? No! Why? It doesn't matter. Results matter!
Winning games matter.
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Enjoying watching your team play should matter as well.
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I do enjoy watching Spurs play, so what`s the problem?

posted on 9/12/20

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 27 minutes ago
Jesus Sandy causes so much carnage with his articles
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Morning Don. I only ever posts facts though mate. I cannot help it if Spurs are currently top of the pile for goals scored this season. Also cannot help that Spurs are top of the Prem. I don`t make up FACTS.

posted on 9/12/20

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 11 minutes ago
Playing conservatively in prem games against the likes of Brighton and Newcastle is not the same as defending a lead in a Champions league final.
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Letting in seven against Villa is quite embarrassing as well.

posted on 9/12/20

comment by SirLes (U6965)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by SirLes (U6965)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 23 seconds ago
Imagine including Europa league in the totals
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As already pointed out, we’re the 3rd highest scorers in the PL.

You do know Chelsea havent even scored a single goal against Utd, Liverpool and Spurs yet?
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Of course I do.
And yet have still scored more than spurs. Would be interesting to see where spurs would be if that train wreck against utd didn't happen. But alas it did. We will see who ends up scoring more this season.

Also goals scored don't really paint the whole picture. Spurs are at a very high efficiency level, whereas werner is clearing shots off the line for us

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Agree, 6 goals in 1 match does enhance the goals scored stats quite a bit. But so does scoring 8 against Sheff Utd and Palace. In the big games you havent scored a goal yet, thats more of a concern.
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for who? i'm not concerned at all. We are a work in progress, against liverpool we were missing half our starting 11. utd away we stifled them as again was missing players and against spurs we started tammy instead of giroud.

It looks to be improving for us each week.

posted on 9/12/20

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 11 minutes ago
Playing conservatively in prem games against the likes of Brighton and Newcastle is not the same as defending a lead in a Champions league final.
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Letting in seven against Villa is quite embarrassing as well.
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I can't decide what embarrassing Spurs bottle job moment to use to counter this. So many to choose from.

posted on 9/12/20

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 27 minutes ago
Jesus Sandy causes so much carnage with his articles
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Morning Don. I only ever posts facts though mate. I cannot help it if Spurs are currently top of the pile for goals scored this season. Also cannot help that Spurs are top of the Prem. I don`t make up FACTS.
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Most definitely true mate as it stands, Spurs are the best team in the league. Just the way it is right now.

posted on 9/12/20

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by SirLes (U6965)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by SirLes (U6965)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 23 seconds ago
Imagine including Europa league in the totals
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As already pointed out, we’re the 3rd highest scorers in the PL.

You do know Chelsea havent even scored a single goal against Utd, Liverpool and Spurs yet?
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Of course I do.
And yet have still scored more than spurs. Would be interesting to see where spurs would be if that train wreck against utd didn't happen. But alas it did. We will see who ends up scoring more this season.

Also goals scored don't really paint the whole picture. Spurs are at a very high efficiency level, whereas werner is clearing shots off the line for us

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Agree, 6 goals in 1 match does enhance the goals scored stats quite a bit. But so does scoring 8 against Sheff Utd and Palace. In the big games you havent scored a goal yet, thats more of a concern.
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for who? i'm not concerned at all. We are a work in progress, against liverpool we were missing half our starting 11. utd away we stifled them as again was missing players and against spurs we started tammy instead of giroud.

It looks to be improving for us each week.
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What`s your excuse for failing to beat the goat herders at home last night?

posted on 9/12/20

We had a completely different 11 to the weekend and was already qualified. had two players who hadn't even played a game this season.

posted on 9/12/20

And krasnador were probably better than any side you've played in the cl, they were a decent team. finished above rennes in the group

posted on 9/12/20

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 54 seconds ago
Spurs score a lot of goals because of their style, but their style is still boring as fack. Parking the bus and counterattacking is a bit borinh tbh and has caught teams off guard. Teams will suss it out to some extent soon.
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Thanks for reading my comment

Liverpool sat deep in the CL final and conceded possession, which Spurs enjoyed having large amount of. Do you remember that? No! Why? It doesn't matter. Results matter!
Winning games matter.
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Enjoying watching your team play should matter as well.
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I do enjoy watching Spurs play, so what`s the problem?
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You do, I (and others) don’t, no problem, it is what it is.

posted on 9/12/20

Sandy, I don't think the fact that we're currently playing boring football is even in question at the moment. Of course we are. It's impossible to when you only have about 30% possession. Goals aren't the measure of the aesthetics of a football game. It's more than that.

Having said that, and I think I speak for most spurs fans that aren't particularly enjoying the style right now, I don't care as long as we're winning. Currently we're doing well so I have no problem with it. One thing I will say for stylish football is that it allows you the odd defeat without the fans grumbling. If the wins dry up and we're still playing low block football, I don't think it will take long for the knives to come out. If we're gonna play like this, we absolutely 100% have to win something this season.

My only worry about this style is that we'll have to change the way we play depending on our opponents and that breeds inconsistency in performances. Based on our recent results against the bigger teams I think the team will find it hard to switch off from the low block breaking style when we face Crystal Palace. Does that wash? Against Palace? Hmmm. I'm not so sure. It's very hard to play low block one week and then dominate the ball the next. I'd prefer to be one of those teams that has an identity, a way of playing that's uncompromising, no matter the opponent. That said, we're top so I can't complain. As it is, I'll absolutely take the football we're playing.

In response to your article, I think those numbers are a little unfair as we've played a bunch of part timers in the EL that would have boosted that stat.

posted on 9/12/20

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 11 seconds ago
Sandy, I don't think the fact that we're currently playing boring football is even in question at the moment. Of course we are. It's impossible to when you only have about 30% possession. Goals aren't the measure of the aesthetics of a football game. It's more than that.

Having said that, and I think I speak for most spurs fans that aren't particularly enjoying the style right now, I don't care as long as we're winning. Currently we're doing well so I have no problem with it. One thing I will say for stylish football is that it allows you the odd defeat without the fans grumbling. If the wins dry up and we're still playing low block football, I don't think it will take long for the knives to come out. If we're gonna play like this, we absolutely 100% have to win something this season.

My only worry about this style is that we'll have to change the way we play depending on our opponents and that breeds inconsistency in performances. Based on our recent results against the bigger teams I think the team will find it hard to switch off from the low block breaking style when we face Crystal Palace. Does that wash? Against Palace? Hmmm. I'm not so sure. It's very hard to play low block one week and then dominate the ball the next. I'd prefer to be one of those teams that has an identity, a way of playing that's uncompromising, no matter the opponent. That said, we're top so I can't complain. As it is, I'll absolutely take the football we're playing.

In response to your article, I think those numbers are a little unfair as we've played a bunch of part timers in the EL that would have boosted that stat.
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posted on 9/12/20

In the Prem we've scored 23 goals which is still a good return but it's 3rd on the list behind Chelsea and Liverpool. When you factor in that 11 of those goals were scored in only 2 freak fixtures that means that in the other 9 fixtures we've managed to hit 12 goals which is 1.3 goals a game, which isn't so hot.

If you play with 4 at the back with Hojbjerg and Sissoko tucking in to create a 6 out of possession then it's not surprising that it's hit our scoring stats of late. Having said that we've got the best defence in the league so it's not affected points on the board but to say we're the free flowing, goals galore entertainers of the league is stretching the truth to put it mildly.

posted on 9/12/20

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 14 minutes ago
Sandy, I don't think the fact that we're currently playing boring football is even in question at the moment. Of course we are. It's impossible to when you only have about 30% possession. Goals aren't the measure of the aesthetics of a football game. It's more than that.

Having said that, and I think I speak for most spurs fans that aren't particularly enjoying the style right now, I don't care as long as we're winning. Currently we're doing well so I have no problem with it. One thing I will say for stylish football is that it allows you the odd defeat without the fans grumbling. If the wins dry up and we're still playing low block football, I don't think it will take long for the knives to come out. If we're gonna play like this, we absolutely 100% have to win something this season.

My only worry about this style is that we'll have to change the way we play depending on our opponents and that breeds inconsistency in performances. Based on our recent results against the bigger teams I think the team will find it hard to switch off from the low block breaking style when we face Crystal Palace. Does that wash? Against Palace? Hmmm. I'm not so sure. It's very hard to play low block one week and then dominate the ball the next. I'd prefer to be one of those teams that has an identity, a way of playing that's uncompromising, no matter the opponent. That said, we're top so I can't complain. As it is, I'll absolutely take the football we're playing.

In response to your article, I think those numbers are a little unfair as we've played a bunch of part timers in the EL that would have boosted that stat.
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I am enjoying every minue of this season. And you are being very selective in your picking saying Spurs are only scoring goals against part timers.

What about the six past United, the five past Southampton, the three past West Ham, the two past both City and Arsenal without reply, or don`t they actually count.

Spurs have shown they are very capable of changing their game, depending on who they play. As I said earlier in the week, I expect Spurs to give a few sides a right tonking as the season progresses. Free from the shackles of having to play Europa League for a couple of months, I expect Spurs to be very much play on the front foot going forward, especially against the lesser sides.

I hate the way some supporters are saying if the wins dry up, the knives will come out. I see absolute no sign of the wins drying up, and why should they. Is their any evidence to say Spurs will not keep winning games. I don`t think so. So why are supporters worried.

Just enjoy the season. When was the last time Spurs sat top of the league for longer than a nano second?

How anybody can have anything negative to say right now, is absolutely beyond me.

Only Spurs supporters can still moan from the lofty position of being top of the Prem.

posted on 9/12/20

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 28 minutes ago
We had a completely different 11 to the weekend and was already qualified. had two players who hadn't even played a game this season.
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Well going forward perhaps your squad is not as good as you think it is. Afterall you already lost to Spurs in a domestic competition.

posted on 9/12/20

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 20 minutes ago
It's hardly a surprise you've scored the most goals in all comps given you've played the most games, and have played about 10 of them against Eastern European farmers.

I'd be worried if you didn't have the most goals in that situation.
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Remind me who Liverpool are playing tonight. Midtyjylland, a team of Danish goatherders.
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The same Midtyjylland who beat Ludogorets in CL qualifiers?

posted on 9/12/20

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 6 minutes ago
In the Prem we've scored 23 goals which is still a good return but it's 3rd on the list behind Chelsea and Liverpool. When you factor in that 11 of those goals were scored in only 2 freak fixtures that means that in the other 9 fixtures we've managed to hit 12 goals which is 1.3 goals a game, which isn't so hot.

If you play with 4 at the back with Hojbjerg and Sissoko tucking in to create a 6 out of possession then it's not surprising that it's hit our scoring stats of late. Having said that we've got the best defence in the league so it's not affected points on the board but to say we're the free flowing, goals galore entertainers of the league is stretching the truth to put it mildly.
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You also have to factor in that Spurs have had the harder fixture list, playing four of the so called big six already, with only Liverpool left to play.

And anyway I think you are forgetting the most important thing, the Prem is not actually won on goals scored, but points won. The goals are just a bonus.

The article is merely pointing out that a team that has scored 49 goals is anything but boring.

posted on 9/12/20

The style which yielded 7 points from the City, Chelsea and Arsenal games may not win any prizes for entertainment but it got the job done. Boredom was the last thing on my mind when I was on the edge of my seat during the three games.

I believe we will see a far more dominant Spurs (in terms of the stats) against Antwerp and Palace and hopefully the right results as well.

posted on 9/12/20

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Playing conservatively in prem games against the likes of Brighton and Newcastle is not the same as defending a lead in a Champions league final.
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Spurs had 23 shots and 12 on target vs Newcastle.....conservative indeed

posted on 9/12/20

One of our core values, and something that Levy is very demanding of, is that we play fast, attractive, attacking football. Sure, we're top now and are still in competitions and everyone is happy. However, fans will quickly turn after a few loses...

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