A happy outcome is a no deal Brexit
comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 1 minute ago
A happy outcome is a no deal Brexit
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Very 18th century thinking that.
Oh by the way could you tell us all what a No Deal Brexit looks like. I keep hearing it bandied about, but nobody every says what it means.
Will we all be quids in for example?
Morning Sandy,
Completely agree. I would be amazed if anyone is enjoying this saga, regardless of what side they are on.
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 29 seconds ago
Morning Sandy,
Completely agree. I would be amazed if anyone is enjoying this saga, regardless of what side they are on.
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Hello mate, yes it is just getting on my nerves now. The nonsensical stuff about talks are still ongoing, with just a few days to go, when they have had over four years to sort it out.
As I say, I just want it done now. Then I shall hold them to account from the 1st January 2021 onwards. They have to deliver better than what we have now, otherwise it will be an act of self-inflicted damage, and a very expensive one as well.
Sandy mate you need to complain to admin about that Raptor article. All of the people named in it should, it's online bullying by people who have their own agenda. I am going to complain about it too. Nobody should be bullied online for having an opinion 'certain people' disagree with.
comment by HoughOffEnd-er (U22510)
posted 2 minutes ago
Sandy mate you need to complain to admin about that Raptor article. All of the people named in it should, it's online bullying by people who have their own agenda. I am going to complain about it too. Nobody should be bullied online for having an opinion 'certain people' disagree with.
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Yes, I don`t like bullying of any kind. But not sure it warrants a complaint to Admin, if children on the site want to have their bit of fun.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by HoughOffEnd-er (U22510)
posted 2 minutes ago
Sandy mate you need to complain to admin about that Raptor article. All of the people named in it should, it's online bullying by people who have their own agenda. I am going to complain about it too. Nobody should be bullied online for having an opinion 'certain people' disagree with.
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Yes, I don`t like bullying of any kind. But not sure it warrants a complaint to Admin, if children on the site want to have their bit of fun.
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Sandy. Mylo the one. God, what a nasty parasite.
comment by HoughOffEnd-er (U22510)
posted 9 minutes ago
Sandy mate you need to complain to admin about that Raptor article. All of the people named in it should, it's online bullying by people who have their own agenda. I am going to complain about it too. Nobody should be bullied online for having an opinion 'certain people' disagree with.
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Snowflake
comment by HoughOffEnd-er (U22510)
posted 9 minutes ago
Sandy mate you need to complain to admin about that Raptor article. All of the people named in it should, it's online bullying by people who have their own agenda. I am going to complain about it too. Nobody should be bullied online for having an opinion 'certain people' disagree with.
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It’s our yearly award ceremony, calm down
I cut the government a tiny bit of slack for the pandemic handling as it was an unprecedented situation and one no one could prepare for but this is just a shet show of the highest order.
Although that said, at some point you have got to get past blaming Boris and instead target your anger at the utter morons that put their trust into him not once but twice, what on earth did you think was going happen?
comment by Anne Ziety (U22412)
posted 1 minute ago
I cut the government a tiny bit of slack for the pandemic handling as it was an unprecedented situation and one no one could prepare for but this is just a shet show of the highest order.
Although that said, at some point you have got to get past blaming Boris and instead target your anger at the utter morons that put their trust into him not once but twice, what on earth did you think was going happen?
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And Labour would of done better how ?
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Anne Ziety (U22412)
posted 1 minute ago
I cut the government a tiny bit of slack for the pandemic handling as it was an unprecedented situation and one no one could prepare for but this is just a shet show of the highest order.
Although that said, at some point you have got to get past blaming Boris and instead target your anger at the utter morons that put their trust into him not once but twice, what on earth did you think was going happen?
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And Labour would of done better how ?
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Don, not really on Labout this one mate, they wouldn`t have called a referendum in the first place. This is done to the shiiite show of Billy Bunter and his extreme Tories. They need to sort it, and stop blaming everybody from Labour to foreigners to the EU.
All on them mate, they called it, they need to sort it. They cannot keep blaming everybody else for ever. I shall be holding them to account for anything or everything that goes wrong.
Still very important they get some kind of deal. We have the most incompetent government there has ever been so it's all about damage limitation whilst this clown and his cronies are in charge.
No deal will wreck a lot of businesses (which are obviously already in dire straights). So I very much hope for their sakes there can be a deal of some kind.
Unfortunately both sides are egotistical and care more about their perceived reputations than what is actually good for their people.
Sandy, if the EU ain’t playing ball and won’t offer us a deal worthy, then it’s no deal and to right as well. I’m all for No deal regardless, but if we can get something meaningful from the EU when we leave, then fleece them for everything we can. They certainly have been fleecing us all these years. No deal for me though
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 1 minute ago
Still very important they get some kind of deal. We have the most incompetent government there has ever been so it's all about damage limitation whilst this clown and his cronies are in charge.
No deal will wreck a lot of businesses (which are obviously already in dire straights). So I very much hope for their sakes there can be a deal of some kind.
Unfortunately both sides are egotistical and care more about their perceived reputations than what is actually good for their people.
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Important for who mate? The EU? Why do you think they are dragging this out? They desperately don’t want a “no deal” because it will hurt them a lot more than it will hurt Britain. I think businesses have already been affected by this virus, so I don’t think a No deal will make things even worse. I believe the country can prosper even without a deal.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
Sandy, if the EU ain’t playing ball and won’t offer us a deal worthy, then it’s no deal and to right as well. I’m all for No deal regardless, but if we can get something meaningful from the EU when we leave, then fleece them for everything we can. They certainly have been fleecing us all these years. No deal for me though
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Not up to the EU thought Don, they didn`t leave, we did. Up to us to sort it out. If I belonged to a club, then decided to leave, I wouldn`t be allowed to make the rules for the club would I.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 1 minute ago
Still very important they get some kind of deal. We have the most incompetent government there has ever been so it's all about damage limitation whilst this clown and his cronies are in charge.
No deal will wreck a lot of businesses (which are obviously already in dire straights). So I very much hope for their sakes there can be a deal of some kind.
Unfortunately both sides are egotistical and care more about their perceived reputations than what is actually good for their people.
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Important for who mate? The EU? Why do you think they are dragging this out? They desperately don’t want a “no deal” because it will hurt them a lot more than it will hurt Britain. I think businesses have already been affected by this virus, so I don’t think a No deal will make things even worse. I believe the country can prosper even without a deal.
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Don, seriously if you think a it will hurt the EU worse, they are a 600 million plus trading block up against a 60 million trading block. It is like putting up a Supermarket Giant up against a corner shop. Once Brexit really kicks in, they will blow us out of the water.
There is only one loser in this game Don, and it won`t be the EU.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
Sandy, if the EU ain’t playing ball and won’t offer us a deal worthy, then it’s no deal and to right as well. I’m all for No deal regardless, but if we can get something meaningful from the EU when we leave, then fleece them for everything we can. They certainly have been fleecing us all these years. No deal for me though
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Not up to the EU thought Don, they didn`t leave, we did. Up to us to sort it out. If I belonged to a club, then decided to leave, I wouldn`t be allowed to make the rules for the club would I.
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No, but Britain can leave without a deal and still prosper. EU will be hit hard if Britain leave without one. So, if they want a clean break with both sides getting a slice of the cake, then put forward something worthy. If they can’t, then f*** off and we will go it alone without a deal. I can guarantee it will hurt them more than us. A no deal really isn’t as disastrous as some are trying to make out.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 1 minute ago
Still very important they get some kind of deal. We have the most incompetent government there has ever been so it's all about damage limitation whilst this clown and his cronies are in charge.
No deal will wreck a lot of businesses (which are obviously already in dire straights). So I very much hope for their sakes there can be a deal of some kind.
Unfortunately both sides are egotistical and care more about their perceived reputations than what is actually good for their people.
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Important for who mate? The EU? Why do you think they are dragging this out? They desperately don’t want a “no deal” because it will hurt them a lot more than it will hurt Britain. I think businesses have already been affected by this virus, so I don’t think a No deal will make things even worse. I believe the country can prosper even without a deal.
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Don, seriously if you think a it will hurt the EU worse, they are a 600 million plus trading block up against a 60 million trading block. It is like putting up a Supermarket Giant up against a corner shop. Once Brexit really kicks in, they will blow us out of the water.
There is only one loser in this game Don, and it won`t be the EU.
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Then why are they dragging this out Sandy? EU have everything to lose when Britain comes out and they know it
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 1 minute ago
Still very important they get some kind of deal. We have the most incompetent government there has ever been so it's all about damage limitation whilst this clown and his cronies are in charge.
No deal will wreck a lot of businesses (which are obviously already in dire straights). So I very much hope for their sakes there can be a deal of some kind.
Unfortunately both sides are egotistical and care more about their perceived reputations than what is actually good for their people.
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Important for who mate? The EU? Why do you think they are dragging this out? They desperately don’t want a “no deal” because it will hurt them a lot more than it will hurt Britain. I think businesses have already been affected by this virus, so I don’t think a No deal will make things even worse. I believe the country can prosper even without a deal.
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Important to UK and EU businesses. An awful amount of trade is done between the two. Go to WTO on jan 1st and you have huge border delays as well as additional tariffs on many products. These things will cut margins big time and make some healthy businesses less viable.
The EU have are not easy to deal with but they are a far bigger economy who have a lot less to lose. Our negotiation position is far weaker.
Do you genuinely believe having no deal will be good for the UK economy and average person on the street?
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 1 minute ago
Still very important they get some kind of deal. We have the most incompetent government there has ever been so it's all about damage limitation whilst this clown and his cronies are in charge.
No deal will wreck a lot of businesses (which are obviously already in dire straights). So I very much hope for their sakes there can be a deal of some kind.
Unfortunately both sides are egotistical and care more about their perceived reputations than what is actually good for their people.
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Important for who mate? The EU? Why do you think they are dragging this out? They desperately don’t want a “no deal” because it will hurt them a lot more than it will hurt Britain. I think businesses have already been affected by this virus, so I don’t think a No deal will make things even worse. I believe the country can prosper even without a deal.
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Important to UK and EU businesses. An awful amount of trade is done between the two. Go to WTO on jan 1st and you have huge border delays as well as additional tariffs on many products. These things will cut margins big time and make some healthy businesses less viable.
The EU have are not easy to deal with but they are a far bigger economy who have a lot less to lose. Our negotiation position is far weaker.
Do you genuinely believe having no deal will be good for the UK economy and average person on the street?
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I honestly do, but that’s where my contribution ends on here for me, because I can’t stand these political debates. People have different views and different sides to the story, but at the end of the day, we can’t all agree, so I’m out of here
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 1 minute ago
Still very important they get some kind of deal. We have the most incompetent government there has ever been so it's all about damage limitation whilst this clown and his cronies are in charge.
No deal will wreck a lot of businesses (which are obviously already in dire straights). So I very much hope for their sakes there can be a deal of some kind.
Unfortunately both sides are egotistical and care more about their perceived reputations than what is actually good for their people.
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Important for who mate? The EU? Why do you think they are dragging this out? They desperately don’t want a “no deal” because it will hurt them a lot more than it will hurt Britain. I think businesses have already been affected by this virus, so I don’t think a No deal will make things even worse. I believe the country can prosper even without a deal.
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Don, seriously if you think a it will hurt the EU worse, they are a 600 million plus trading block up against a 60 million trading block. It is like putting up a Supermarket Giant up against a corner shop. Once Brexit really kicks in, they will blow us out of the water.
There is only one loser in this game Don, and it won`t be the EU.
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Then why are they dragging this out Sandy? EU have everything to lose when Britain comes out and they know it
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I don`t think they are dragging it out mate. Bunter is dragging it out, because he knows a No Deal will be reckless, but he doesn`t want to be seen to be weak.
The EU are as fed up as the rest of us that Britain doesn`t seem to know what it wants. Britain has left, so really, why are they still trying to cherry pick all the best bits.
It was obvious that the EU aint going to be giving Britain a better deal for leaving, than fully paid up members would get.
Up to Britain now, take it or leave it. If they leave it. Their choice. Nothing to do with the EU really. It is Johnson that is dithering trying to keep the ERG on board for political gain, and to keep Farage and his extreme Right wingers at bay.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Anne Ziety (U22412)
posted 1 minute ago
I cut the government a tiny bit of slack for the pandemic handling as it was an unprecedented situation and one no one could prepare for but this is just a shet show of the highest order.
Although that said, at some point you have got to get past blaming Boris and instead target your anger at the utter morons that put their trust into him not once but twice, what on earth did you think was going happen?
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And Labour would of done better how ?
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I'm no fan of Labour either but they won't have Boris in charge which would make them better by default.
I think we can all agree it's utterly tragic what the UK and America have come too in terms of leadership options, may aswell top this off and make Joey Essex leader of the UN.
I for one will be glad when in 17 days it is all over, and then it will be over to the Government and the Brexiteers to once and for all own it. No more blame game. They will have to deliver on their promises.
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While I don't disagree with the sentiment of the OP, I can't get on board with this idea that it will be "all over" on 31 December and that we can "move on". It's only just starting then.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 1 minute ago
Still very important they get some kind of deal. We have the most incompetent government there has ever been so it's all about damage limitation whilst this clown and his cronies are in charge.
No deal will wreck a lot of businesses (which are obviously already in dire straights). So I very much hope for their sakes there can be a deal of some kind.
Unfortunately both sides are egotistical and care more about their perceived reputations than what is actually good for their people.
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Important for who mate? The EU? Why do you think they are dragging this out? They desperately don’t want a “no deal” because it will hurt them a lot more than it will hurt Britain. I think businesses have already been affected by this virus, so I don’t think a No deal will make things even worse. I believe the country can prosper even without a deal.
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Important to UK and EU businesses. An awful amount of trade is done between the two. Go to WTO on jan 1st and you have huge border delays as well as additional tariffs on many products. These things will cut margins big time and make some healthy businesses less viable.
The EU have are not easy to deal with but they are a far bigger economy who have a lot less to lose. Our negotiation position is far weaker.
Do you genuinely believe having no deal will be good for the UK economy and average person on the street?
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I honestly do, but that’s where my contribution ends on here for me, because I can’t stand these political debates. People have different views and different sides to the story, but at the end of the day, we can’t all agree, so I’m out of here
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posted on 14/12/20
A happy outcome is a no deal Brexit
posted on 14/12/20
comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 1 minute ago
A happy outcome is a no deal Brexit
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Very 18th century thinking that.
Oh by the way could you tell us all what a No Deal Brexit looks like. I keep hearing it bandied about, but nobody every says what it means.
Will we all be quids in for example?
posted on 14/12/20
Morning Sandy,
Completely agree. I would be amazed if anyone is enjoying this saga, regardless of what side they are on.
posted on 14/12/20
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 29 seconds ago
Morning Sandy,
Completely agree. I would be amazed if anyone is enjoying this saga, regardless of what side they are on.
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Hello mate, yes it is just getting on my nerves now. The nonsensical stuff about talks are still ongoing, with just a few days to go, when they have had over four years to sort it out.
As I say, I just want it done now. Then I shall hold them to account from the 1st January 2021 onwards. They have to deliver better than what we have now, otherwise it will be an act of self-inflicted damage, and a very expensive one as well.
posted on 14/12/20
Sandy mate you need to complain to admin about that Raptor article. All of the people named in it should, it's online bullying by people who have their own agenda. I am going to complain about it too. Nobody should be bullied online for having an opinion 'certain people' disagree with.
posted on 14/12/20
comment by HoughOffEnd-er (U22510)
posted 2 minutes ago
Sandy mate you need to complain to admin about that Raptor article. All of the people named in it should, it's online bullying by people who have their own agenda. I am going to complain about it too. Nobody should be bullied online for having an opinion 'certain people' disagree with.
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Yes, I don`t like bullying of any kind. But not sure it warrants a complaint to Admin, if children on the site want to have their bit of fun.
posted on 14/12/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by HoughOffEnd-er (U22510)
posted 2 minutes ago
Sandy mate you need to complain to admin about that Raptor article. All of the people named in it should, it's online bullying by people who have their own agenda. I am going to complain about it too. Nobody should be bullied online for having an opinion 'certain people' disagree with.
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Yes, I don`t like bullying of any kind. But not sure it warrants a complaint to Admin, if children on the site want to have their bit of fun.
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Sandy. Mylo the one. God, what a nasty parasite.
posted on 14/12/20
comment by HoughOffEnd-er (U22510)
posted 9 minutes ago
Sandy mate you need to complain to admin about that Raptor article. All of the people named in it should, it's online bullying by people who have their own agenda. I am going to complain about it too. Nobody should be bullied online for having an opinion 'certain people' disagree with.
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Snowflake
posted on 14/12/20
comment by HoughOffEnd-er (U22510)
posted 9 minutes ago
Sandy mate you need to complain to admin about that Raptor article. All of the people named in it should, it's online bullying by people who have their own agenda. I am going to complain about it too. Nobody should be bullied online for having an opinion 'certain people' disagree with.
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It’s our yearly award ceremony, calm down
posted on 14/12/20
I cut the government a tiny bit of slack for the pandemic handling as it was an unprecedented situation and one no one could prepare for but this is just a shet show of the highest order.
Although that said, at some point you have got to get past blaming Boris and instead target your anger at the utter morons that put their trust into him not once but twice, what on earth did you think was going happen?
posted on 14/12/20
comment by Anne Ziety (U22412)
posted 1 minute ago
I cut the government a tiny bit of slack for the pandemic handling as it was an unprecedented situation and one no one could prepare for but this is just a shet show of the highest order.
Although that said, at some point you have got to get past blaming Boris and instead target your anger at the utter morons that put their trust into him not once but twice, what on earth did you think was going happen?
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And Labour would of done better how ?
posted on 14/12/20
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Anne Ziety (U22412)
posted 1 minute ago
I cut the government a tiny bit of slack for the pandemic handling as it was an unprecedented situation and one no one could prepare for but this is just a shet show of the highest order.
Although that said, at some point you have got to get past blaming Boris and instead target your anger at the utter morons that put their trust into him not once but twice, what on earth did you think was going happen?
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And Labour would of done better how ?
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Don, not really on Labout this one mate, they wouldn`t have called a referendum in the first place. This is done to the shiiite show of Billy Bunter and his extreme Tories. They need to sort it, and stop blaming everybody from Labour to foreigners to the EU.
All on them mate, they called it, they need to sort it. They cannot keep blaming everybody else for ever. I shall be holding them to account for anything or everything that goes wrong.
posted on 14/12/20
Still very important they get some kind of deal. We have the most incompetent government there has ever been so it's all about damage limitation whilst this clown and his cronies are in charge.
No deal will wreck a lot of businesses (which are obviously already in dire straights). So I very much hope for their sakes there can be a deal of some kind.
Unfortunately both sides are egotistical and care more about their perceived reputations than what is actually good for their people.
posted on 14/12/20
Sandy, if the EU ain’t playing ball and won’t offer us a deal worthy, then it’s no deal and to right as well. I’m all for No deal regardless, but if we can get something meaningful from the EU when we leave, then fleece them for everything we can. They certainly have been fleecing us all these years. No deal for me though
posted on 14/12/20
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 1 minute ago
Still very important they get some kind of deal. We have the most incompetent government there has ever been so it's all about damage limitation whilst this clown and his cronies are in charge.
No deal will wreck a lot of businesses (which are obviously already in dire straights). So I very much hope for their sakes there can be a deal of some kind.
Unfortunately both sides are egotistical and care more about their perceived reputations than what is actually good for their people.
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Important for who mate? The EU? Why do you think they are dragging this out? They desperately don’t want a “no deal” because it will hurt them a lot more than it will hurt Britain. I think businesses have already been affected by this virus, so I don’t think a No deal will make things even worse. I believe the country can prosper even without a deal.
posted on 14/12/20
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
Sandy, if the EU ain’t playing ball and won’t offer us a deal worthy, then it’s no deal and to right as well. I’m all for No deal regardless, but if we can get something meaningful from the EU when we leave, then fleece them for everything we can. They certainly have been fleecing us all these years. No deal for me though
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Not up to the EU thought Don, they didn`t leave, we did. Up to us to sort it out. If I belonged to a club, then decided to leave, I wouldn`t be allowed to make the rules for the club would I.
posted on 14/12/20
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 1 minute ago
Still very important they get some kind of deal. We have the most incompetent government there has ever been so it's all about damage limitation whilst this clown and his cronies are in charge.
No deal will wreck a lot of businesses (which are obviously already in dire straights). So I very much hope for their sakes there can be a deal of some kind.
Unfortunately both sides are egotistical and care more about their perceived reputations than what is actually good for their people.
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Important for who mate? The EU? Why do you think they are dragging this out? They desperately don’t want a “no deal” because it will hurt them a lot more than it will hurt Britain. I think businesses have already been affected by this virus, so I don’t think a No deal will make things even worse. I believe the country can prosper even without a deal.
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Don, seriously if you think a it will hurt the EU worse, they are a 600 million plus trading block up against a 60 million trading block. It is like putting up a Supermarket Giant up against a corner shop. Once Brexit really kicks in, they will blow us out of the water.
There is only one loser in this game Don, and it won`t be the EU.
posted on 14/12/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
Sandy, if the EU ain’t playing ball and won’t offer us a deal worthy, then it’s no deal and to right as well. I’m all for No deal regardless, but if we can get something meaningful from the EU when we leave, then fleece them for everything we can. They certainly have been fleecing us all these years. No deal for me though
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Not up to the EU thought Don, they didn`t leave, we did. Up to us to sort it out. If I belonged to a club, then decided to leave, I wouldn`t be allowed to make the rules for the club would I.
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No, but Britain can leave without a deal and still prosper. EU will be hit hard if Britain leave without one. So, if they want a clean break with both sides getting a slice of the cake, then put forward something worthy. If they can’t, then f*** off and we will go it alone without a deal. I can guarantee it will hurt them more than us. A no deal really isn’t as disastrous as some are trying to make out.
posted on 14/12/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 1 minute ago
Still very important they get some kind of deal. We have the most incompetent government there has ever been so it's all about damage limitation whilst this clown and his cronies are in charge.
No deal will wreck a lot of businesses (which are obviously already in dire straights). So I very much hope for their sakes there can be a deal of some kind.
Unfortunately both sides are egotistical and care more about their perceived reputations than what is actually good for their people.
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Important for who mate? The EU? Why do you think they are dragging this out? They desperately don’t want a “no deal” because it will hurt them a lot more than it will hurt Britain. I think businesses have already been affected by this virus, so I don’t think a No deal will make things even worse. I believe the country can prosper even without a deal.
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Don, seriously if you think a it will hurt the EU worse, they are a 600 million plus trading block up against a 60 million trading block. It is like putting up a Supermarket Giant up against a corner shop. Once Brexit really kicks in, they will blow us out of the water.
There is only one loser in this game Don, and it won`t be the EU.
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Then why are they dragging this out Sandy? EU have everything to lose when Britain comes out and they know it
posted on 14/12/20
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 1 minute ago
Still very important they get some kind of deal. We have the most incompetent government there has ever been so it's all about damage limitation whilst this clown and his cronies are in charge.
No deal will wreck a lot of businesses (which are obviously already in dire straights). So I very much hope for their sakes there can be a deal of some kind.
Unfortunately both sides are egotistical and care more about their perceived reputations than what is actually good for their people.
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Important for who mate? The EU? Why do you think they are dragging this out? They desperately don’t want a “no deal” because it will hurt them a lot more than it will hurt Britain. I think businesses have already been affected by this virus, so I don’t think a No deal will make things even worse. I believe the country can prosper even without a deal.
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Important to UK and EU businesses. An awful amount of trade is done between the two. Go to WTO on jan 1st and you have huge border delays as well as additional tariffs on many products. These things will cut margins big time and make some healthy businesses less viable.
The EU have are not easy to deal with but they are a far bigger economy who have a lot less to lose. Our negotiation position is far weaker.
Do you genuinely believe having no deal will be good for the UK economy and average person on the street?
posted on 14/12/20
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 1 minute ago
Still very important they get some kind of deal. We have the most incompetent government there has ever been so it's all about damage limitation whilst this clown and his cronies are in charge.
No deal will wreck a lot of businesses (which are obviously already in dire straights). So I very much hope for their sakes there can be a deal of some kind.
Unfortunately both sides are egotistical and care more about their perceived reputations than what is actually good for their people.
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Important for who mate? The EU? Why do you think they are dragging this out? They desperately don’t want a “no deal” because it will hurt them a lot more than it will hurt Britain. I think businesses have already been affected by this virus, so I don’t think a No deal will make things even worse. I believe the country can prosper even without a deal.
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Important to UK and EU businesses. An awful amount of trade is done between the two. Go to WTO on jan 1st and you have huge border delays as well as additional tariffs on many products. These things will cut margins big time and make some healthy businesses less viable.
The EU have are not easy to deal with but they are a far bigger economy who have a lot less to lose. Our negotiation position is far weaker.
Do you genuinely believe having no deal will be good for the UK economy and average person on the street?
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I honestly do, but that’s where my contribution ends on here for me, because I can’t stand these political debates. People have different views and different sides to the story, but at the end of the day, we can’t all agree, so I’m out of here
posted on 14/12/20
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 1 minute ago
Still very important they get some kind of deal. We have the most incompetent government there has ever been so it's all about damage limitation whilst this clown and his cronies are in charge.
No deal will wreck a lot of businesses (which are obviously already in dire straights). So I very much hope for their sakes there can be a deal of some kind.
Unfortunately both sides are egotistical and care more about their perceived reputations than what is actually good for their people.
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Important for who mate? The EU? Why do you think they are dragging this out? They desperately don’t want a “no deal” because it will hurt them a lot more than it will hurt Britain. I think businesses have already been affected by this virus, so I don’t think a No deal will make things even worse. I believe the country can prosper even without a deal.
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Don, seriously if you think a it will hurt the EU worse, they are a 600 million plus trading block up against a 60 million trading block. It is like putting up a Supermarket Giant up against a corner shop. Once Brexit really kicks in, they will blow us out of the water.
There is only one loser in this game Don, and it won`t be the EU.
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Then why are they dragging this out Sandy? EU have everything to lose when Britain comes out and they know it
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I don`t think they are dragging it out mate. Bunter is dragging it out, because he knows a No Deal will be reckless, but he doesn`t want to be seen to be weak.
The EU are as fed up as the rest of us that Britain doesn`t seem to know what it wants. Britain has left, so really, why are they still trying to cherry pick all the best bits.
It was obvious that the EU aint going to be giving Britain a better deal for leaving, than fully paid up members would get.
Up to Britain now, take it or leave it. If they leave it. Their choice. Nothing to do with the EU really. It is Johnson that is dithering trying to keep the ERG on board for political gain, and to keep Farage and his extreme Right wingers at bay.
posted on 14/12/20
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Anne Ziety (U22412)
posted 1 minute ago
I cut the government a tiny bit of slack for the pandemic handling as it was an unprecedented situation and one no one could prepare for but this is just a shet show of the highest order.
Although that said, at some point you have got to get past blaming Boris and instead target your anger at the utter morons that put their trust into him not once but twice, what on earth did you think was going happen?
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And Labour would of done better how ?
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I'm no fan of Labour either but they won't have Boris in charge which would make them better by default.
I think we can all agree it's utterly tragic what the UK and America have come too in terms of leadership options, may aswell top this off and make Joey Essex leader of the UN.
posted on 14/12/20
I for one will be glad when in 17 days it is all over, and then it will be over to the Government and the Brexiteers to once and for all own it. No more blame game. They will have to deliver on their promises.
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While I don't disagree with the sentiment of the OP, I can't get on board with this idea that it will be "all over" on 31 December and that we can "move on". It's only just starting then.
posted on 14/12/20
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 1 minute ago
Still very important they get some kind of deal. We have the most incompetent government there has ever been so it's all about damage limitation whilst this clown and his cronies are in charge.
No deal will wreck a lot of businesses (which are obviously already in dire straights). So I very much hope for their sakes there can be a deal of some kind.
Unfortunately both sides are egotistical and care more about their perceived reputations than what is actually good for their people.
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Important for who mate? The EU? Why do you think they are dragging this out? They desperately don’t want a “no deal” because it will hurt them a lot more than it will hurt Britain. I think businesses have already been affected by this virus, so I don’t think a No deal will make things even worse. I believe the country can prosper even without a deal.
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Important to UK and EU businesses. An awful amount of trade is done between the two. Go to WTO on jan 1st and you have huge border delays as well as additional tariffs on many products. These things will cut margins big time and make some healthy businesses less viable.
The EU have are not easy to deal with but they are a far bigger economy who have a lot less to lose. Our negotiation position is far weaker.
Do you genuinely believe having no deal will be good for the UK economy and average person on the street?
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I honestly do, but that’s where my contribution ends on here for me, because I can’t stand these political debates. People have different views and different sides to the story, but at the end of the day, we can’t all agree, so I’m out of here
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