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Not really that worried about United. A one man team and that one man is being significantly overplayed. Injury and/or fatigue on the horizon for BF. The rest of the team are pretty meh flat track bullies.
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I do t think we'll get anyone. It would be a panic buy and it's not really the clubs style now. With VVD and Gomez to come back in the next five months or so, Fabinho showing he's also an excellent centre back and young Williams emerging, looking the real deal when covering for Matip, it's probably a waste of money to bring somebody in for six months.
Unless Klopp decided he wanted to move Fabinho back to midfield next season or he wanted to get rid of Matip, who keeps picking up injuries, I can't see us panic buying.
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lucky to get 4th then.
would you be satisfied with that?
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Which of course is nonsense.
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keep dropping points and like spurs we can be in 4th very quick.
we have zero fit Senior cbs as of tody and you call that not panic buying.
williams came on today and pit in a stinker as he has his hand up and that was all he could do.
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We're top, with the current defenders.
Fabinho is a centre back, has been all season and the obvious reason why we didn't buy one when we allowed Lovren to go and why we were able to bring in Thiago, despite being stocked up on midfielders.
Matip is a centre back who everybody knows can't play three games a week, he needs managed and probably shouldn't have started yesterday, having just come back from a knock.
We then have young Williams who has done a great job when called upon. Of course you expect there will be mistakes but he has clearly shown he could be a player and therefore with the amount of games he's going to get, you expect that experience will improve him, which wouldn't happen if we added a sixth defender as a panic buy in January to add to the three mentioned, Gomez and VVD who will both be back in five months or so and Phillips who I don't believe is good enough but who Williams has already overtaken, then we'd be left with too many defenders and young Williams not getting the chance to develop.
I don't think we need to panic, which being top of the league has proven.
Same people spouting the same rubbish.
Even if it's just a loan, we NEED another decent CB in the January window because you can guarantee, with Matip not able to play 3 games consecutively, young Williams will either suffer fatigue/burnout or worse, a severe injury.
What then? We're fecked, that's what.
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comment by פlǝuƃɥᴉs (U19365)
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Same people spouting the same rubbish.
Even if it's just a loan, we NEED another decent CB in the January window because you can guarantee, with Matip not able to play 3 games consecutively, young Williams will either suffer fatigue/burnout or worse, a severe injury.
What then? We're fecked, that's what.
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We need a CB. I just doubt we'll get one.
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I think we have no other option than to go and get one.
We aint winning the elague without a decent CB simple as that.
Klopp should give Gerrard a call and see if we can get Goldson on loan.
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champio... (U1108)
posted 4 hours, 2 minutes ago
Klopp should give Gerrard a call and see if we can get Goldson on loan.
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He's crap. Williams is better.
It will be interesting to revisit this thread at the end of the season to revisit some of the end of the world comments, like we'll only make top four unless we sign a centre back, we aren't winning the league without signing a centre back, we're fuсked and best of all, we need to sign bloody Goldson.
I do still think we will win the league but we will be exposed in Europe with just Fabinho . I know klopp says the youngsters know how we want to play but from what I have seen they are too slow to play at this level. They may be able to overcome that with experience but it’s a big risk .
comment by Klopp klopp (U17359)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
I do still think we will win the league but we will be exposed in Europe with just Fabinho . I know klopp says the youngsters know how we want to play but from what I have seen they are too slow to play at this level. They may be able to overcome that with experience but it’s a big risk .
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Out of interest, what makes you think we'll be fine in the league but exposed in Europe? For me, currently we are the best team in the league, even with the two defensive long term injuries and all the others that keep cropping up. I'd still say the same about Europe, with perhaps only Bayern better. Not sure why with Fabinho and Matip first choice with Williams as backup, we're suddenly exposed.
So what happens if say one of those 3 gets a knock, oh wait, Matip already has. So a slight knock or positive covid-19 test to one of the remaining 2 leaves us with a single CB and possibly Henderson filling in.
Yeah, that'll be good enough to win the PL & CL.
Our 3 first choice CBs have no return date according to this.
https://www.premierinjuries.com/injury-table.php
Suggesting they are still a fair way from returning.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
comment by Klopp klopp (U17359)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
I do still think we will win the league but we will be exposed in Europe with just Fabinho . I know klopp says the youngsters know how we want to play but from what I have seen they are too slow to play at this level. They may be able to overcome that with experience but it’s a big risk .
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Out of interest, what makes you think we'll be fine in the league but exposed in Europe? For me, currently we are the best team in the league, even with the two defensive long term injuries and all the others that keep cropping up. I'd still say the same about Europe, with perhaps only Bayern better. Not sure why with Fabinho and Matip first choice with Williams as backup, we're suddenly exposed.
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Because Europe is a knock out competition, one bad game and we are out as we saw with Adrian last year. In the league you can afford mistakes .
Our back up CBs aren’t good enough against the elite teams Simple as that . If Matip was reliable then I would have a different view but he’s not .
comment by פlǝuƃɥᴉs (U19365)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
So what happens if say one of those 3 gets a knock, oh wait, Matip already has. So a slight knock or positive covid-19 test to one of the remaining 2 leaves us with a single CB and possibly Henderson filling in.
Yeah, that'll be good enough to win the PL & CL.
Our 3 first choice CBs have no return date according to this.
https://www.premierinjuries.com/injury-table.php
Suggesting they are still a fair way from returning.
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Then Williams plays, which is what has happened. We then finished top of our CL group and are top of the league. I imagine Phillips will be added to the CL squad this time also and whilst I don't rate him too highly, he'd be an emergency option as sixth choice defender.
Don't get me wrong, we'd be in a better position if we signed a top centre back, better than Matip, who we'd then sell due to his injury issues but I just don't think we're going to spend the kind of money needed to bring in a player better than Matip with a panic buy when in five months or so down the line, VVD and Gomez come back, leaving us with four top centre backs and a young lad who has done well when he has played.
There is no need to panic, although it may be worth considering what happens if one more centre back were to get a long term injury. In that case we could probably just get somebody in on a free or on loan, in case of emergency but personally I'd rather give the young French lad a go as he looked decent in pre season.
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posted on 28/12/20
People need to stop responding to this curler wum
posted on 28/12/20
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posted on 28/12/20
Not really that worried about United. A one man team and that one man is being significantly overplayed. Injury and/or fatigue on the horizon for BF. The rest of the team are pretty meh flat track bullies.
posted on 28/12/20
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 12 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
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comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 9 minutes ago
I do t think we'll get anyone. It would be a panic buy and it's not really the clubs style now. With VVD and Gomez to come back in the next five months or so, Fabinho showing he's also an excellent centre back and young Williams emerging, looking the real deal when covering for Matip, it's probably a waste of money to bring somebody in for six months.
Unless Klopp decided he wanted to move Fabinho back to midfield next season or he wanted to get rid of Matip, who keeps picking up injuries, I can't see us panic buying.
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lucky to get 4th then.
would you be satisfied with that?
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Which of course is nonsense.
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keep dropping points and like spurs we can be in 4th very quick.
we have zero fit Senior cbs as of tody and you call that not panic buying.
williams came on today and pit in a stinker as he has his hand up and that was all he could do.
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We're top, with the current defenders.
Fabinho is a centre back, has been all season and the obvious reason why we didn't buy one when we allowed Lovren to go and why we were able to bring in Thiago, despite being stocked up on midfielders.
Matip is a centre back who everybody knows can't play three games a week, he needs managed and probably shouldn't have started yesterday, having just come back from a knock.
We then have young Williams who has done a great job when called upon. Of course you expect there will be mistakes but he has clearly shown he could be a player and therefore with the amount of games he's going to get, you expect that experience will improve him, which wouldn't happen if we added a sixth defender as a panic buy in January to add to the three mentioned, Gomez and VVD who will both be back in five months or so and Phillips who I don't believe is good enough but who Williams has already overtaken, then we'd be left with too many defenders and young Williams not getting the chance to develop.
I don't think we need to panic, which being top of the league has proven.
posted on 28/12/20
Same people spouting the same rubbish.
Even if it's just a loan, we NEED another decent CB in the January window because you can guarantee, with Matip not able to play 3 games consecutively, young Williams will either suffer fatigue/burnout or worse, a severe injury.
What then? We're fecked, that's what.
posted on 28/12/20
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posted on 28/12/20
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by פlǝuƃɥᴉs (U19365)
posted 1 minute ago
Same people spouting the same rubbish.
Even if it's just a loan, we NEED another decent CB in the January window because you can guarantee, with Matip not able to play 3 games consecutively, young Williams will either suffer fatigue/burnout or worse, a severe injury.
What then? We're fecked, that's what.
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We need a CB. I just doubt we'll get one.
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I think we have no other option than to go and get one.
posted on 28/12/20
We aint winning the elague without a decent CB simple as that.
posted on 28/12/20
Klopp should give Gerrard a call and see if we can get Goldson on loan.
posted on 28/12/20
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champio... (U1108)
posted 4 hours, 2 minutes ago
Klopp should give Gerrard a call and see if we can get Goldson on loan.
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He's crap. Williams is better.
posted on 28/12/20
It will be interesting to revisit this thread at the end of the season to revisit some of the end of the world comments, like we'll only make top four unless we sign a centre back, we aren't winning the league without signing a centre back, we're fuсked and best of all, we need to sign bloody Goldson.
posted on 29/12/20
I do still think we will win the league but we will be exposed in Europe with just Fabinho . I know klopp says the youngsters know how we want to play but from what I have seen they are too slow to play at this level. They may be able to overcome that with experience but it’s a big risk .
posted on 29/12/20
comment by Klopp klopp (U17359)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
I do still think we will win the league but we will be exposed in Europe with just Fabinho . I know klopp says the youngsters know how we want to play but from what I have seen they are too slow to play at this level. They may be able to overcome that with experience but it’s a big risk .
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Out of interest, what makes you think we'll be fine in the league but exposed in Europe? For me, currently we are the best team in the league, even with the two defensive long term injuries and all the others that keep cropping up. I'd still say the same about Europe, with perhaps only Bayern better. Not sure why with Fabinho and Matip first choice with Williams as backup, we're suddenly exposed.
posted on 29/12/20
So what happens if say one of those 3 gets a knock, oh wait, Matip already has. So a slight knock or positive covid-19 test to one of the remaining 2 leaves us with a single CB and possibly Henderson filling in.
Yeah, that'll be good enough to win the PL & CL.
Our 3 first choice CBs have no return date according to this.
https://www.premierinjuries.com/injury-table.php
Suggesting they are still a fair way from returning.
posted on 29/12/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
comment by Klopp klopp (U17359)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
I do still think we will win the league but we will be exposed in Europe with just Fabinho . I know klopp says the youngsters know how we want to play but from what I have seen they are too slow to play at this level. They may be able to overcome that with experience but it’s a big risk .
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Out of interest, what makes you think we'll be fine in the league but exposed in Europe? For me, currently we are the best team in the league, even with the two defensive long term injuries and all the others that keep cropping up. I'd still say the same about Europe, with perhaps only Bayern better. Not sure why with Fabinho and Matip first choice with Williams as backup, we're suddenly exposed.
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Because Europe is a knock out competition, one bad game and we are out as we saw with Adrian last year. In the league you can afford mistakes .
Our back up CBs aren’t good enough against the elite teams Simple as that . If Matip was reliable then I would have a different view but he’s not .
posted on 29/12/20
comment by פlǝuƃɥᴉs (U19365)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
So what happens if say one of those 3 gets a knock, oh wait, Matip already has. So a slight knock or positive covid-19 test to one of the remaining 2 leaves us with a single CB and possibly Henderson filling in.
Yeah, that'll be good enough to win the PL & CL.
Our 3 first choice CBs have no return date according to this.
https://www.premierinjuries.com/injury-table.php
Suggesting they are still a fair way from returning.
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Then Williams plays, which is what has happened. We then finished top of our CL group and are top of the league. I imagine Phillips will be added to the CL squad this time also and whilst I don't rate him too highly, he'd be an emergency option as sixth choice defender.
Don't get me wrong, we'd be in a better position if we signed a top centre back, better than Matip, who we'd then sell due to his injury issues but I just don't think we're going to spend the kind of money needed to bring in a player better than Matip with a panic buy when in five months or so down the line, VVD and Gomez come back, leaving us with four top centre backs and a young lad who has done well when he has played.
There is no need to panic, although it may be worth considering what happens if one more centre back were to get a long term injury. In that case we could probably just get somebody in on a free or on loan, in case of emergency but personally I'd rather give the young French lad a go as he looked decent in pre season.
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