Luiz has cost us the game, we were in total control until he switched off. No way wolves were getting anything but a hiding until the first red.

The Luiz red was an joke of a decision ref cheated

He took Laca off because he knew we'd have to play the 2nd on the break - which isn't his game at all. That's why he left Pepe on.

Was a fair enough call tbh.

comment by 4everanarsenalfan (U20629)
posted 1 minute ago
The Luiz red was an joke of a decision ref cheated
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It’s a red card, whether he meant it or not, he’s stopped a goal scoring chance. We should be question his defending that led to his red. Shocking.

Questioning*

Leno? We've had 9 red cards at the club since Arteta took over. The closest to that is three in that same timeframe. Arteta and the complete lack of authority he carries and lack of respect he has as manager cost us tonight. Boggles my mind that he's still in charge when Lampard, no better but certainly no worse, has paid the price for his awfulness yet we're still having to swallow this complete crap.

Hmm... so Arteta is a complete authoritarian who has no authority.

Interesting...

comment by Herbie (U7136)
posted 32 seconds ago
Leno? We've had 9 red cards at the club since Arteta took over. The closest to that is three in that same timeframe. Arteta and the complete lack of authority he carries and lack of respect he has as manager cost us tonight. Boggles my mind that he's still in charge when Lampard, no better but certainly no worse, has paid the price for his awfulness yet we're still having to swallow this complete crap.
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Sorry what?! How exactly are bad refereeing decisions Arteta's fault?

comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 4everanarsenalfan (U20629)
posted 1 minute ago
The Luiz red was an joke of a decision ref cheated
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It’s a red card, whether he meant it or not, he’s stopped a goal scoring chance. We should be question his defending that led to his red. Shocking.
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No it’s not accidental is a caution

Op...Leno did not cost us the game.
The lack of taking our chances in the first half/bad luck with Saka and Pepe hitting the woodwork and Luiz's harsh red card cost us the game. The ref was abysmal in that decision (he was shocking all game for both teams).

Wolves had all the luck. The red card and then they scored a worldie. We hit the woodwork and it comes out, they hit it and it goes in.

comment by Herbie (U7136)
posted 43 seconds ago
Leno? We've had 9 red cards at the club since Arteta took over. The closest to that is three in that same timeframe. Arteta and the complete lack of authority he carries and lack of respect he has as manager cost us tonight. Boggles my mind that he's still in charge when Lampard, no better but certainly no worse, has paid the price for his awfulness yet we're still having to swallow this complete crap.
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The FA Cup win gave him some breathing space but he's way out of his depth at Arsenal.

comment by Flamini'sShirtSleeves (U8186)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Herbie (U7136)
posted 32 seconds ago
Leno? We've had 9 red cards at the club since Arteta took over. The closest to that is three in that same timeframe. Arteta and the complete lack of authority he carries and lack of respect he has as manager cost us tonight. Boggles my mind that he's still in charge when Lampard, no better but certainly no worse, has paid the price for his awfulness yet we're still having to swallow this complete crap.
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Sorry what?! How exactly are bad refereeing decisions Arteta's fault?
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9 red cards are bad refereeing decisions? Arsenal fans and their insistence on conspiracy theories is, brutally, the only constant in this sh-t show of a year.

Neither red card was down to a lack of authority from Arteta. Really weird comment.

You’d have a point if you made that comment after the Leeds or Southampton games couple of months ago.

Luiz was sent of because he’s Luiz. Leno was sent off because banter. Nothing to do with Arteta

United v Southampton guess what? Saints gets down red card just after 2nd minutes

comment by 4everanarsenalfan (U20629)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 4everanarsenalfan (U20629)
posted 1 minute ago
The Luiz red was an joke of a decision ref cheated
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It’s a red card, whether he meant it or not, he’s stopped a goal scoring chance. We should be question his defending that led to his red. Shocking.
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No it’s not accidental is a caution
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He’s last man, it doesn’t matter , as Walton explained at halftime it’s a red card. If luiz is positioned correctly they don’t get that opportunity. Embarrassing defending from a guy that’s won it all!.

comment by ES-Rowe Arteta (U21751)
posted 1 minute ago
United v Southampton guess what? Saints gets down red card just after 2nd minutes
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Was a blatant red card

"Neither red card was down to a lack of authority from Arteta. Really weird comment."
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Luiz is making the same mistakes over and over. Why is he playing? And if he is playing, why not respect the game, himself and or his manager enough to play the situation from time to time? A good coach would be able to instil this to his players. Instead, they all play with the impetuous immaturity that Arteta coaches with which is hardly surprising given this is his first lead job in football ffs.

Again, boggles my mind how Arteta, with zero record, gets te pass Emery was never afforded simply because he has nice hair and can pronounce his V's. Joke.

Off course they do. Because 'United players, too nice'.

The sooner Arteta starts manipulating referees - because that is what Solskjaer has done this week - the better.

The ref and to a lesser extent Luiz cost us the game. Leno maybe cost us a draw but he's been excellent for us overall.

comment by Herbie (U7136)
posted 2 minutes ago
"Neither red card was down to a lack of authority from Arteta. Really weird comment."
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Luiz is making the same mistakes over and over. Why is he playing? And if he is playing, why not respect the game, himself and or his manager enough to play the situation from time to time? A good coach would be able to instil this to his players. Instead, they all play with the impetuous immaturity that Arteta coaches with which is hardly surprising given this is his first lead job in football ffs.

Again, boggles my mind how Arteta, with zero record, gets te pass Emery was never afforded simply because he has nice hair and can pronounce his V's. Joke.
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Arteta doesn’t get a pass from me. But these reds have nothing to do with Arteta. You can’t just not play Luiz because refs like to send him off.

Find it genuinely weird when so-called supporters start comparing Arteta to Emery, and asking why they 'aren't judged similarly'.

Some right odd-balls on this forum.

comment by MaineGunner (U10130)
posted 3 minutes ago
Op...Leno did not cost us the game.
The lack of taking our chances in the first half/bad luck with Saka and Pepe hitting the woodwork and Luiz's harsh red card cost us the game. The ref was abysmal in that decision (he was shocking all game for both teams).

Wolves had all the luck. The red card and then they scored a worldie. We hit the woodwork and it comes out, they hit it and it goes in.
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Asa Wolves fan if I was summing up the game, this is pretty much what I would say. The Luiz red was harsh. pen? yes, red? No. The Leno Red? well just WTF was he thinking? To be fair to your 3rd string keeper he did well and didn't look out of place.
It's a bitter pill for you guys with the run you have been on but I'm sure it's a blip and you will get back on track. For us it was a much needed shot in the arm and hopefully now we can get on with the rest of the season with a bit more confidence, albeit with a bunch of teenagers.
Good luck for the rest of the season

Gem

comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by 4everanarsenalfan (U20629)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 4everanarsenalfan (U20629)
posted 1 minute ago
The Luiz red was an joke of a decision ref cheated
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It’s a red card, whether he meant it or not, he’s stopped a goal scoring chance. We should be question his defending that led to his red. Shocking.
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No it’s not accidental is a caution
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He’s last man, it doesn’t matter , as Walton explained at halftime it’s a red card. If luiz is positioned correctly they don’t get that opportunity. Embarrassing defending from a guy that’s won it all!.
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The rules state accidental foul which denies a goal scoring opportunity is a caution nothing about it being a red if it’s the last man unless I see something to say it is Walton is wrong or a liar

comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Herbie (U7136)
posted 2 minutes ago
"Neither red card was down to a lack of authority from Arteta. Really weird comment."
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Luiz is making the same mistakes over and over. Why is he playing? And if he is playing, why not respect the game, himself and or his manager enough to play the situation from time to time? A good coach would be able to instil this to his players. Instead, they all play with the impetuous immaturity that Arteta coaches with which is hardly surprising given this is his first lead job in football ffs.

Again, boggles my mind how Arteta, with zero record, gets te pass Emery was never afforded simply because he has nice hair and can pronounce his V's. Joke.
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Arteta doesn’t get a pass from me. But these reds have nothing to do with Arteta. You can’t just not play Luiz because refs like to send him off.
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You definitely can. The man's proved a liability time and time again. You could play the £27m CB you have sitting on your bench instead very easily.