comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 26 seconds ago
I have to be honest, I was always very critical of Fred. I still think he has his deficiencies, he's useless in possession, however he is good at winning the ball back, has heart, works hard and covers the ground well.
I still think we need better, but I'd also put ST, CB and RW higher up the list of priorities. I'd swap him for Henderson, Fabinho, Ndidi, Rice, Rodri in a heartbeat.
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Rice? He did nothing yesterday for me to say he will be an improvement from Fred
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
Runs a lot. Good energy. Poor passer of the ball. Abysmal at shooting. About 3 levels below prime Fernandinho. You win nothing with the likes of Fred starting for you.
This is the honest verdict on the lad.
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is fred a better player than fellaini was?
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You cannot pick two more different players to compare
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yes i can.. he is saying we will never win anything with players like fred.. but we won things with players like fellaini.. so i asked the question
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
Runs a lot. Good energy. Poor passer of the ball. Abysmal at shooting. About 3 levels below prime Fernandinho. You win nothing with the likes of Fred starting for you.
This is the honest verdict on the lad.
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is fred a better player than fellaini was?
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Just reading that guys name brings back bad memories for me. If I am being objective, I would not say Fred has been more successful compared to him for United. His downfall was, we resorted to playing a certain way when we were desperate for a goal due to his height, which was no fault of his.
Fred has improved massively but needs to improve a lot more, especially with his passing. Some of the passes he done yesterday was just bewildering.
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 6 minutes ago
no issue with fred whatsoever, he is what he is.
the likes of makelele and kante were similar players ( and im not saying fred is at their level) in that they broke the play up, but neither were great in front of goal or tried anything other than the simple pass.
the fact is fred is the only real ball winner we have, and his turnover is pretty impressive, im more than hppy for him to do that and then give the ball to someone else for the hollywood pass
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Lol. Stop taking you serious when you used Fred in the same sentence with Claude Makelele(the great Makele) and Kante. There is delusion and there is stupidity
Kante does more than break the ball to pass it along. Makelele could execute long and short passes. I agree we have more pressing issues but Fred is bang average. Stop bigging him up
For stats lovers
Ngolo Kante. P- 183. G- 10. A-11
Makalele P- 144 G-2 A-4
Fred P-63 G-1 A-1
I'm not too bothered about the shooting, he could be told to cut it out unless he's in the six yard box.
But the passing needs more care, especially the 'simple' ones. If he's trying a difficult ball to the front three a la Bruno I could forgive that, as I do Bruno
If we want energy in DM then Fred really is the only one capable of playing that role. I see McT as more of a box to box player for now. If we had Carrick instead of Fred then a three of him, McT and Bruno in front in the Am/No10 role would probably be our best combination (I'm assuming Pogba leaves in this scenario).
comment by Martial Law (U13506)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 6 minutes ago
no issue with fred whatsoever, he is what he is.
the likes of makelele and kante were similar players ( and im not saying fred is at their level) in that they broke the play up, but neither were great in front of goal or tried anything other than the simple pass.
the fact is fred is the only real ball winner we have, and his turnover is pretty impressive, im more than hppy for him to do that and then give the ball to someone else for the hollywood pass
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Lol. Stop taking you serious when you used Fred in the same sentence with Claude Makelele(the great Makele) and Kante. There is delusion and there is stupidity
Kante does more than break the ball to pass it along. Makelele could execute long and short passes. I agree we have more pressing issues but Fred is bang average. Stop bigging him up
For stats lovers
Ngolo Kante. P- 183. G- 10. A-11
Makalele P- 144 G-2 A-4
Fred P-63 G-1 A-1
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did you just pick and choose certain parts in what i wrote?
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Martial Law (U13506)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 6 minutes ago
no issue with fred whatsoever, he is what he is.
the likes of makelele and kante were similar players ( and im not saying fred is at their level) in that they broke the play up, but neither were great in front of goal or tried anything other than the simple pass.
the fact is fred is the only real ball winner we have, and his turnover is pretty impressive, im more than hppy for him to do that and then give the ball to someone else for the hollywood pass
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Lol. Stop taking you serious when you used Fred in the same sentence with Claude Makelele(the great Makele) and Kante. There is delusion and there is stupidity
Kante does more than break the ball to pass it along. Makelele could execute long and short passes. I agree we have more pressing issues but Fred is bang average. Stop bigging him up
For stats lovers
Ngolo Kante. P- 183. G- 10. A-11
Makalele P- 144 G-2 A-4
Fred P-63 G-1 A-1
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did you just pick and choose certain parts in what i wrote?
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Yes. 🤣
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
Runs a lot. Good energy. Poor passer of the ball. Abysmal at shooting. About 3 levels below prime Fernandinho. You win nothing with the likes of Fred starting for you.
This is the honest verdict on the lad.
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is fred a better player than fellaini was?
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You cannot pick two more different players to compare
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yes i can.. he is saying we will never win anything with players like fred.. but we won things with players like fellaini.. so i asked the question
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We won titles with Cleverley though. But I get your point. I rate Fred but we need better options out wide if we play him
yes i can.. he is saying we will never win anything with players like fred.. but we won things with players like fellaini.. so i asked the question
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I said with "Fred Starting for you." Conveniently you left this part out. The likes of Cleverly and Fellaini were not 100% starters for this club. Fred now is considered a starter for most of our games. But carry on acting stupid.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 28 seconds ago
yes i can.. he is saying we will never win anything with players like fred.. but we won things with players like fellaini.. so i asked the question
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I said with "Fred Starting for you." Conveniently you left this part out. The likes of Cleverly and Fellaini were not 100% starters for this club. Fred now is considered a starter for most of our games. But carry on acting stupid.
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in 2016/17 fellaini started nearly 30 games and we won the league cup and europa
cleverley started 28 in fergies last season.. hardly bit time players are they??
If he cut out trying the Hollywood passes and shooting and kept it simple he’d be a fine player.
Not comparing the two but Makelele rarely took a shoot and kept it simple.
Kante also.
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 2 hours, 17 minutes ago
Keep for sure.
However, the problem with Fred is that we need two in that No6 area. None of our DMC are good enough to play alone. So we sacrifice either Bruno or Pogba.
That might not be a big problem if our wing attack is good. Shaw is good at the moment, Telles was ok yesterday. We need a AWB to improve or a better attacking RB
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There aren’t many teams about who play with four forwards and only one number six, to be fair.
The vast majority that play with one holding midfielder also deploy two eights, at least one of whom is nearly always available to cover and recycle.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 50 minutes ago
Runs a lot. Good energy. Poor passer of the ball. Abysmal at shooting. About 3 levels below prime Fernandinho. You win nothing with the likes of Fred starting for you.
This is the honest verdict on the lad.
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Was with you until the last sentence of your first paragraph.
Teams have won the league - hell, teams have won the CL - with worse CMs in their first XIs.
comment by rosso - exterminate the talking heads (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 50 minutes ago
Runs a lot. Good energy. Poor passer of the ball. Abysmal at shooting. About 3 levels below prime Fernandinho. You win nothing with the likes of Fred starting for you.
This is the honest verdict on the lad.
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Was with you until the last sentence of your first paragraph.
Teams have won the league - hell, teams have won the CL - with worse CMs in their first XIs.
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If we were better at RW and CB then a Midfield of Fred sitting, McT B2B and Bruno AM/No10 is no worse than what Liverpool used to win the CL and PL. In fact I'd go as far as saying it offers more in an attacking sense whilst providing the same energy.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by rosso - exterminate the talking heads (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 50 minutes ago
Runs a lot. Good energy. Poor passer of the ball. Abysmal at shooting. About 3 levels below prime Fernandinho. You win nothing with the likes of Fred starting for you.
This is the honest verdict on the lad.
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Was with you until the last sentence of your first paragraph.
Teams have won the league - hell, teams have won the CL - with worse CMs in their first XIs.
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If we were better at RW and CB then a Midfield of Fred sitting, McT B2B and Bruno AM/No10 is no worse than what Liverpool used to win the CL and PL. In fact I'd go as far as saying it offers more in an attacking sense whilst providing the same energy.
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Now you’ve done it
comment by rosso - exterminate the talking heads (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by rosso - exterminate the talking heads (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 50 minutes ago
Runs a lot. Good energy. Poor passer of the ball. Abysmal at shooting. About 3 levels below prime Fernandinho. You win nothing with the likes of Fred starting for you.
This is the honest verdict on the lad.
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Was with you until the last sentence of your first paragraph.
Teams have won the league - hell, teams have won the CL - with worse CMs in their first XIs.
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If we were better at RW and CB then a Midfield of Fred sitting, McT B2B and Bruno AM/No10 is no worse than what Liverpool used to win the CL and PL. In fact I'd go as far as saying it offers more in an attacking sense whilst providing the same energy.
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Now you’ve done it
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Nothing I've said is wrong! It's just that that Liverpool version was a very well drilled machine. We're not quite there yet.
comment by The Gentleman. (U13709)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
Fred is the least of our problems. It's so boring now seeing fans target the same players. The agenda is real
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You didn't read the article then. Clearly stated he's not our biggest issue but like others have said other than his amazing energy he doesn't bring enough to this team.
He needs to improve his passing if we hope to win the league again one day. He gives it away cheaply. And he just needs to forget about shooting as he's hopeless.
comment by rosso - exterminate the talking heads (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 50 minutes ago
Runs a lot. Good energy. Poor passer of the ball. Abysmal at shooting. About 3 levels below prime Fernandinho. You win nothing with the likes of Fred starting for you.
This is the honest verdict on the lad.
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Was with you until the last sentence of your first paragraph.
Teams have won the league - hell, teams have won the CL - with worse CMs in their first XIs.
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Fair Rosso. Maybe i am being a tad harsh but, teams that have normally won have other world class players to make up for lack in quality, which is not a luxury we have
Fabinho is massively overrated
Looks like a mistake waiting to happen
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 7 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by The Gentleman. (U13709)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
Fred is the least of our problems. It's so boring now seeing fans target the same players. The agenda is real
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You didn't read the article then. Clearly stated he's not our biggest issue but like others have said other than his amazing energy he doesn't bring enough to this team.
He needs to improve his passing if we hope to win the league again one day. He gives it away cheaply. And he just needs to forget about shooting as he's hopeless.
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Fabinho is a better dm, henderson a better passer, gini is better technically. In terms of energy levels he is top notch for sure but I feel it's a bit of a stretch to suggest he has shown their level of calibre over the time he's been at man United. Certainly doesn't make him as bad as I first thought when I saw him.
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Fred - What's the verdict then?
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posted on 10/2/21
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 26 seconds ago
I have to be honest, I was always very critical of Fred. I still think he has his deficiencies, he's useless in possession, however he is good at winning the ball back, has heart, works hard and covers the ground well.
I still think we need better, but I'd also put ST, CB and RW higher up the list of priorities. I'd swap him for Henderson, Fabinho, Ndidi, Rice, Rodri in a heartbeat.
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Rice? He did nothing yesterday for me to say he will be an improvement from Fred
posted on 10/2/21
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
Runs a lot. Good energy. Poor passer of the ball. Abysmal at shooting. About 3 levels below prime Fernandinho. You win nothing with the likes of Fred starting for you.
This is the honest verdict on the lad.
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is fred a better player than fellaini was?
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You cannot pick two more different players to compare
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yes i can.. he is saying we will never win anything with players like fred.. but we won things with players like fellaini.. so i asked the question
posted on 10/2/21
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
Runs a lot. Good energy. Poor passer of the ball. Abysmal at shooting. About 3 levels below prime Fernandinho. You win nothing with the likes of Fred starting for you.
This is the honest verdict on the lad.
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is fred a better player than fellaini was?
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Just reading that guys name brings back bad memories for me. If I am being objective, I would not say Fred has been more successful compared to him for United. His downfall was, we resorted to playing a certain way when we were desperate for a goal due to his height, which was no fault of his.
Fred has improved massively but needs to improve a lot more, especially with his passing. Some of the passes he done yesterday was just bewildering.
posted on 10/2/21
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 6 minutes ago
no issue with fred whatsoever, he is what he is.
the likes of makelele and kante were similar players ( and im not saying fred is at their level) in that they broke the play up, but neither were great in front of goal or tried anything other than the simple pass.
the fact is fred is the only real ball winner we have, and his turnover is pretty impressive, im more than hppy for him to do that and then give the ball to someone else for the hollywood pass
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Lol. Stop taking you serious when you used Fred in the same sentence with Claude Makelele(the great Makele) and Kante. There is delusion and there is stupidity
Kante does more than break the ball to pass it along. Makelele could execute long and short passes. I agree we have more pressing issues but Fred is bang average. Stop bigging him up
For stats lovers
Ngolo Kante. P- 183. G- 10. A-11
Makalele P- 144 G-2 A-4
Fred P-63 G-1 A-1
posted on 10/2/21
I'm not too bothered about the shooting, he could be told to cut it out unless he's in the six yard box.
But the passing needs more care, especially the 'simple' ones. If he's trying a difficult ball to the front three a la Bruno I could forgive that, as I do Bruno
posted on 10/2/21
If we want energy in DM then Fred really is the only one capable of playing that role. I see McT as more of a box to box player for now. If we had Carrick instead of Fred then a three of him, McT and Bruno in front in the Am/No10 role would probably be our best combination (I'm assuming Pogba leaves in this scenario).
posted on 10/2/21
comment by Martial Law (U13506)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 6 minutes ago
no issue with fred whatsoever, he is what he is.
the likes of makelele and kante were similar players ( and im not saying fred is at their level) in that they broke the play up, but neither were great in front of goal or tried anything other than the simple pass.
the fact is fred is the only real ball winner we have, and his turnover is pretty impressive, im more than hppy for him to do that and then give the ball to someone else for the hollywood pass
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Lol. Stop taking you serious when you used Fred in the same sentence with Claude Makelele(the great Makele) and Kante. There is delusion and there is stupidity
Kante does more than break the ball to pass it along. Makelele could execute long and short passes. I agree we have more pressing issues but Fred is bang average. Stop bigging him up
For stats lovers
Ngolo Kante. P- 183. G- 10. A-11
Makalele P- 144 G-2 A-4
Fred P-63 G-1 A-1
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did you just pick and choose certain parts in what i wrote?
posted on 10/2/21
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Martial Law (U13506)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 6 minutes ago
no issue with fred whatsoever, he is what he is.
the likes of makelele and kante were similar players ( and im not saying fred is at their level) in that they broke the play up, but neither were great in front of goal or tried anything other than the simple pass.
the fact is fred is the only real ball winner we have, and his turnover is pretty impressive, im more than hppy for him to do that and then give the ball to someone else for the hollywood pass
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Lol. Stop taking you serious when you used Fred in the same sentence with Claude Makelele(the great Makele) and Kante. There is delusion and there is stupidity
Kante does more than break the ball to pass it along. Makelele could execute long and short passes. I agree we have more pressing issues but Fred is bang average. Stop bigging him up
For stats lovers
Ngolo Kante. P- 183. G- 10. A-11
Makalele P- 144 G-2 A-4
Fred P-63 G-1 A-1
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did you just pick and choose certain parts in what i wrote?
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Yes. 🤣
posted on 10/2/21
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
Runs a lot. Good energy. Poor passer of the ball. Abysmal at shooting. About 3 levels below prime Fernandinho. You win nothing with the likes of Fred starting for you.
This is the honest verdict on the lad.
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is fred a better player than fellaini was?
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You cannot pick two more different players to compare
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yes i can.. he is saying we will never win anything with players like fred.. but we won things with players like fellaini.. so i asked the question
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We won titles with Cleverley though. But I get your point. I rate Fred but we need better options out wide if we play him
posted on 10/2/21
yes i can.. he is saying we will never win anything with players like fred.. but we won things with players like fellaini.. so i asked the question
.................................................
I said with "Fred Starting for you." Conveniently you left this part out. The likes of Cleverly and Fellaini were not 100% starters for this club. Fred now is considered a starter for most of our games. But carry on acting stupid.
posted on 10/2/21
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 28 seconds ago
yes i can.. he is saying we will never win anything with players like fred.. but we won things with players like fellaini.. so i asked the question
.................................................
I said with "Fred Starting for you." Conveniently you left this part out. The likes of Cleverly and Fellaini were not 100% starters for this club. Fred now is considered a starter for most of our games. But carry on acting stupid.
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in 2016/17 fellaini started nearly 30 games and we won the league cup and europa
cleverley started 28 in fergies last season.. hardly bit time players are they??
posted on 10/2/21
If he cut out trying the Hollywood passes and shooting and kept it simple he’d be a fine player.
Not comparing the two but Makelele rarely took a shoot and kept it simple.
Kante also.
posted on 10/2/21
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 2 hours, 17 minutes ago
Keep for sure.
However, the problem with Fred is that we need two in that No6 area. None of our DMC are good enough to play alone. So we sacrifice either Bruno or Pogba.
That might not be a big problem if our wing attack is good. Shaw is good at the moment, Telles was ok yesterday. We need a AWB to improve or a better attacking RB
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There aren’t many teams about who play with four forwards and only one number six, to be fair.
The vast majority that play with one holding midfielder also deploy two eights, at least one of whom is nearly always available to cover and recycle.
posted on 10/2/21
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 50 minutes ago
Runs a lot. Good energy. Poor passer of the ball. Abysmal at shooting. About 3 levels below prime Fernandinho. You win nothing with the likes of Fred starting for you.
This is the honest verdict on the lad.
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Was with you until the last sentence of your first paragraph.
Teams have won the league - hell, teams have won the CL - with worse CMs in their first XIs.
posted on 10/2/21
comment by rosso - exterminate the talking heads (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 50 minutes ago
Runs a lot. Good energy. Poor passer of the ball. Abysmal at shooting. About 3 levels below prime Fernandinho. You win nothing with the likes of Fred starting for you.
This is the honest verdict on the lad.
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Was with you until the last sentence of your first paragraph.
Teams have won the league - hell, teams have won the CL - with worse CMs in their first XIs.
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If we were better at RW and CB then a Midfield of Fred sitting, McT B2B and Bruno AM/No10 is no worse than what Liverpool used to win the CL and PL. In fact I'd go as far as saying it offers more in an attacking sense whilst providing the same energy.
posted on 10/2/21
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by rosso - exterminate the talking heads (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 50 minutes ago
Runs a lot. Good energy. Poor passer of the ball. Abysmal at shooting. About 3 levels below prime Fernandinho. You win nothing with the likes of Fred starting for you.
This is the honest verdict on the lad.
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Was with you until the last sentence of your first paragraph.
Teams have won the league - hell, teams have won the CL - with worse CMs in their first XIs.
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If we were better at RW and CB then a Midfield of Fred sitting, McT B2B and Bruno AM/No10 is no worse than what Liverpool used to win the CL and PL. In fact I'd go as far as saying it offers more in an attacking sense whilst providing the same energy.
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Now you’ve done it
posted on 10/2/21
comment by rosso - exterminate the talking heads (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by rosso - exterminate the talking heads (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 50 minutes ago
Runs a lot. Good energy. Poor passer of the ball. Abysmal at shooting. About 3 levels below prime Fernandinho. You win nothing with the likes of Fred starting for you.
This is the honest verdict on the lad.
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Was with you until the last sentence of your first paragraph.
Teams have won the league - hell, teams have won the CL - with worse CMs in their first XIs.
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If we were better at RW and CB then a Midfield of Fred sitting, McT B2B and Bruno AM/No10 is no worse than what Liverpool used to win the CL and PL. In fact I'd go as far as saying it offers more in an attacking sense whilst providing the same energy.
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Now you’ve done it
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Nothing I've said is wrong! It's just that that Liverpool version was a very well drilled machine. We're not quite there yet.
posted on 10/2/21
comment by The Gentleman. (U13709)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
Fred is the least of our problems. It's so boring now seeing fans target the same players. The agenda is real
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You didn't read the article then. Clearly stated he's not our biggest issue but like others have said other than his amazing energy he doesn't bring enough to this team.
He needs to improve his passing if we hope to win the league again one day. He gives it away cheaply. And he just needs to forget about shooting as he's hopeless.
posted on 10/2/21
comment by rosso - exterminate the talking heads (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 50 minutes ago
Runs a lot. Good energy. Poor passer of the ball. Abysmal at shooting. About 3 levels below prime Fernandinho. You win nothing with the likes of Fred starting for you.
This is the honest verdict on the lad.
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Was with you until the last sentence of your first paragraph.
Teams have won the league - hell, teams have won the CL - with worse CMs in their first XIs.
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Fair Rosso. Maybe i am being a tad harsh but, teams that have normally won have other world class players to make up for lack in quality, which is not a luxury we have
posted on 10/2/21
Fabinho is massively overrated
Looks like a mistake waiting to happen
posted on 10/2/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 7 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by The Gentleman. (U13709)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
Fred is the least of our problems. It's so boring now seeing fans target the same players. The agenda is real
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You didn't read the article then. Clearly stated he's not our biggest issue but like others have said other than his amazing energy he doesn't bring enough to this team.
He needs to improve his passing if we hope to win the league again one day. He gives it away cheaply. And he just needs to forget about shooting as he's hopeless.
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Fabinho is a better dm, henderson a better passer, gini is better technically. In terms of energy levels he is top notch for sure but I feel it's a bit of a stretch to suggest he has shown their level of calibre over the time he's been at man United. Certainly doesn't make him as bad as I first thought when I saw him.
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