Pep is a cheque book manager and it’s as simple as that. Are his achievements with City really prestigious? He’s proven nothing at all, those who came before him achieved the same. Pellegrini won the title, Mancini won the title and both won domestic cups. These titles and trophies under Pep mean nothing at all, they just go out and buy them. If they win the league this season, what does it prove really? Other managers proved before Pep that with City’s open cheque book you can win the league, he’s a fraud. Never had a sniff of winning the UCL.
Davinson Sanchez cost around £42m.
This is why I refuse to get too pist off with things, I have accepted our current owners refusal to push the boat out ever.
Look at what we are up against, Pool and United, 2 media darling clubs that are dragged up the league by the officials every season. Then £ity and Ch£lsea, 2 financially doped clubs with bottomless pockets. Add into the mix ambitious owners at Wolves and Leicester, and there is no wonder we are slipping towards mid table.
Pep doesn't spend it or sign them tbf but yes teams with high wage bills and transfer spends tend to do better.
Spyrs have spent plenty btw. Their spend per trophy is one of the worst in Premier League history.
Spurs operate at Sunday market levels with hit and miss that you get at such places, while the rest are at Tesco's except Chelsea and City, who are at Harrods.
Then some will say that's fair?
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 minutes ago
Davinson Sanchez cost around £42m.
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And that was around £35m too much
He’s a fraud. Look at his career and the teams he’s managed and especially what they won in the years before he joined:
Barca: Fraud Pep took over in 2008. In 2006 Barca won the UCL as well as La Liga in 05 and 06. Puyol was already there, Messi was, Eto’o was, Iniesta was, Xavi was, Valdes was etc etc. He’s then lauded beyond belief for winning the league and UCL with a set of players (majority) who’d already done it.
Bayern: Baldy takes over in 2013 when they’d just won everything and actually takes them backwards. Made them beatable in Europe but carried on winning the league and cups. Who wouldn’t win titles at Bayern by the way?
City: Takes over in 2016 but just two years before Pellegrini, with the same team, won the league and two cups. To be fair to Pep some of them like Kolarov, Toure, Clichy and Zabaleta were getting on but again Aguero was there, Silva was there, Kompany was there, KDB was there, Sterling was there etc etc
He’s a fraud. What’s he ever done that’s worth talking about? People make out like he took over a City team who were struggling to get in the top 4.
The Barca team he had would’ve won about 4 UCL trophies with a proper manager. He lost to that poor Chelsea side ffs!
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 minutes ago
Davinson Sanchez cost around £42m.
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And that was around £35m too much
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Which says Spurs don't spend wisely, rather than spend at "sunday markets". £42m should have bought a top class CB, or even 2.
Leicester
Drop Microphone!
If Pep is a great manager come to spurs and prove it.
comment by Bored As Fudge (U21998)
posted 1 minute ago
Leicester
Drop Microphone!
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Even Liverpool, who have operated on a similar budget to Spurs.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 16 minutes ago
Davinson Sanchez cost around £42m.
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Yep, one signing, great point. And he’s our second most expensive signing ever.
How many signings have City made in excess of that amount, I’d guess it’s at least in double digits?
Everyone knows and accepts City is financially doping and Pep is a chequebook manager. That doesn’t mean either is entirely without merit though and the rest of us just have to deal with it. Crying doesn’t help.
Laporte gets injured for 3 months and they spend 100m plus and 2 new defenders
We lost 3 for the season and spend 500k at Primark for a championship player and a kid.
This myth that Spyrs haven't spent money is just that, s myth.
Maybe Mourinho is an example of how a 'super coach' gets on when he no longer has an unlimited budget.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 minutes ago
Davinson Sanchez cost around £42m.
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And that was around £35m too much
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Which says Spurs don't spend wisely, rather than spend at "sunday markets". £42m should have bought a top class CB, or even 2.
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Yeah tbf we do way to much of our recruitment wrong.... Which no team can afford of course but even less so when you aren't bankrolled/loaded.
Crying doesn’t help
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Not crying mate. Just putting things in perspective.
I didn't mention financial doping. That's not what I am talking about.
I am saying we have the exact issues that City had few seasons ago, when they were losing so many game. Lack of a replacement for Kompany and then followed by Fernandinho injury etc.
But we are unable to provide quick fixes, like Pep is.
It is a genuinely questionable whether Pep could manage this Spurs side, and take us 7 points clear like he is doing at City.
Some managers are very fortunate that way.
Money or not Pep is a great coach. There's a reason they were able to get to 100 points in the league and then go on to defend it with almost as high a points tally.
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 17 minutes ago
Pep doesn't spend it or sign them tbf but yes teams with high wage bills and transfer spends tend to do better.
Spyrs have spent plenty btw. Their spend per trophy is one of the worst in Premier League history.
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Tottenham spend far far less on wages then the other top six. This inhibits the talent we can procure. I'm sure we would have won a couple of titles if we had spent the same amount as Man City, Liverpool, Man U Chelsea and Arsenal.
You have to admire Pep and the style and the quality he brings to his teams His CV is amazing, but it includes Messi's Barca, the best German team in a one-horse race, and the club with access to the most money on the planet.
Spurs are an extremely well run club, financially. We have not lived beyond our means but achieved decent league positions, perhaps beyond our financial punching power at times. We have been good at finding value in the market but at times this is also a downfall. When you look at our team now we have a plethora of £15-£25m type players who will only be so good. May be we could have not signed Moura and Bergwijn and instead spent £50m on one player, may be thats the risk we need to take a bit more, smaller more compact squad of pricier players compared to our current squad which is over stocked with squad-quality players. But its easier said than done and also puts all your eggs in one basket
The difference is so apparent. City have an abundance of £50m+ players all of whom they have purchased, with Foden being a local boy made good. Mahrez sits of their bench and he is £15m more expensive than Spurs record signing, NDombele.
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champione (U1108)
posted 3 minutes ago
Laporte gets injured for 3 months and they spend 100m plus and 2 new defenders
We lost 3 for the season and spend 500k at Primark for a championship player and a kid.
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See and people go on about suck it up and let it be?
It's just not fair. If I am in a 24Hrs LeMans racing, and keep swapping my car every hour, of course, I should win it?
My team will always have the most freshest and best cars in this endurance race? Clear advantage.
comment by Islington Spur (U18857)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 17 minutes ago
Pep doesn't spend it or sign them tbf but yes teams with high wage bills and transfer spends tend to do better.
Spyrs have spent plenty btw. Their spend per trophy is one of the worst in Premier League history.
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Tottenham spend far far less on wages then the other top six. This inhibits the talent we can procure. I'm sure we would have won a couple of titles if we had spent the same amount as Man City, Liverpool, Man U Chelsea and Arsenal.
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https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/how-every-premier-league-clubs-wage-bill-compares-to-their-league-position/
We have not lived beyond our means
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Massively in debt and took out a further 9 figure loan this summer.
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 25 minutes ago
He’s a fraud. What’s he ever done that’s worth talking about? People make out like he took over a City team who were struggling to get in the top 4.
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They made the top 4 on goal difference the year before he took over.
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posted on 14/2/21
Pep is a cheque book manager and it’s as simple as that. Are his achievements with City really prestigious? He’s proven nothing at all, those who came before him achieved the same. Pellegrini won the title, Mancini won the title and both won domestic cups. These titles and trophies under Pep mean nothing at all, they just go out and buy them. If they win the league this season, what does it prove really? Other managers proved before Pep that with City’s open cheque book you can win the league, he’s a fraud. Never had a sniff of winning the UCL.
posted on 14/2/21
Davinson Sanchez cost around £42m.
posted on 14/2/21
This is why I refuse to get too pist off with things, I have accepted our current owners refusal to push the boat out ever.
Look at what we are up against, Pool and United, 2 media darling clubs that are dragged up the league by the officials every season. Then £ity and Ch£lsea, 2 financially doped clubs with bottomless pockets. Add into the mix ambitious owners at Wolves and Leicester, and there is no wonder we are slipping towards mid table.
posted on 14/2/21
Pep doesn't spend it or sign them tbf but yes teams with high wage bills and transfer spends tend to do better.
Spyrs have spent plenty btw. Their spend per trophy is one of the worst in Premier League history.
posted on 14/2/21
Spurs operate at Sunday market levels with hit and miss that you get at such places, while the rest are at Tesco's except Chelsea and City, who are at Harrods.
Then some will say that's fair?
posted on 14/2/21
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 minutes ago
Davinson Sanchez cost around £42m.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And that was around £35m too much
posted on 14/2/21
He’s a fraud. Look at his career and the teams he’s managed and especially what they won in the years before he joined:
Barca: Fraud Pep took over in 2008. In 2006 Barca won the UCL as well as La Liga in 05 and 06. Puyol was already there, Messi was, Eto’o was, Iniesta was, Xavi was, Valdes was etc etc. He’s then lauded beyond belief for winning the league and UCL with a set of players (majority) who’d already done it.
Bayern: Baldy takes over in 2013 when they’d just won everything and actually takes them backwards. Made them beatable in Europe but carried on winning the league and cups. Who wouldn’t win titles at Bayern by the way?
City: Takes over in 2016 but just two years before Pellegrini, with the same team, won the league and two cups. To be fair to Pep some of them like Kolarov, Toure, Clichy and Zabaleta were getting on but again Aguero was there, Silva was there, Kompany was there, KDB was there, Sterling was there etc etc
He’s a fraud. What’s he ever done that’s worth talking about? People make out like he took over a City team who were struggling to get in the top 4.
posted on 14/2/21
The Barca team he had would’ve won about 4 UCL trophies with a proper manager. He lost to that poor Chelsea side ffs!
posted on 14/2/21
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 minutes ago
Davinson Sanchez cost around £42m.
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And that was around £35m too much
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Which says Spurs don't spend wisely, rather than spend at "sunday markets". £42m should have bought a top class CB, or even 2.
posted on 14/2/21
Leicester
Drop Microphone!
posted on 14/2/21
If Pep is a great manager come to spurs and prove it.
posted on 14/2/21
comment by Bored As Fudge (U21998)
posted 1 minute ago
Leicester
Drop Microphone!
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Even Liverpool, who have operated on a similar budget to Spurs.
posted on 14/2/21
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 16 minutes ago
Davinson Sanchez cost around £42m.
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Yep, one signing, great point. And he’s our second most expensive signing ever.
How many signings have City made in excess of that amount, I’d guess it’s at least in double digits?
Everyone knows and accepts City is financially doping and Pep is a chequebook manager. That doesn’t mean either is entirely without merit though and the rest of us just have to deal with it. Crying doesn’t help.
posted on 14/2/21
Laporte gets injured for 3 months and they spend 100m plus and 2 new defenders
We lost 3 for the season and spend 500k at Primark for a championship player and a kid.
posted on 14/2/21
This myth that Spyrs haven't spent money is just that, s myth.
posted on 14/2/21
Maybe Mourinho is an example of how a 'super coach' gets on when he no longer has an unlimited budget.
posted on 14/2/21
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 minutes ago
Davinson Sanchez cost around £42m.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And that was around £35m too much
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which says Spurs don't spend wisely, rather than spend at "sunday markets". £42m should have bought a top class CB, or even 2.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah tbf we do way to much of our recruitment wrong.... Which no team can afford of course but even less so when you aren't bankrolled/loaded.
posted on 14/2/21
Crying doesn’t help
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Not crying mate. Just putting things in perspective.
I didn't mention financial doping. That's not what I am talking about.
I am saying we have the exact issues that City had few seasons ago, when they were losing so many game. Lack of a replacement for Kompany and then followed by Fernandinho injury etc.
But we are unable to provide quick fixes, like Pep is.
It is a genuinely questionable whether Pep could manage this Spurs side, and take us 7 points clear like he is doing at City.
Some managers are very fortunate that way.
posted on 14/2/21
Money or not Pep is a great coach. There's a reason they were able to get to 100 points in the league and then go on to defend it with almost as high a points tally.
posted on 14/2/21
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 17 minutes ago
Pep doesn't spend it or sign them tbf but yes teams with high wage bills and transfer spends tend to do better.
Spyrs have spent plenty btw. Their spend per trophy is one of the worst in Premier League history.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tottenham spend far far less on wages then the other top six. This inhibits the talent we can procure. I'm sure we would have won a couple of titles if we had spent the same amount as Man City, Liverpool, Man U Chelsea and Arsenal.
posted on 14/2/21
You have to admire Pep and the style and the quality he brings to his teams His CV is amazing, but it includes Messi's Barca, the best German team in a one-horse race, and the club with access to the most money on the planet.
Spurs are an extremely well run club, financially. We have not lived beyond our means but achieved decent league positions, perhaps beyond our financial punching power at times. We have been good at finding value in the market but at times this is also a downfall. When you look at our team now we have a plethora of £15-£25m type players who will only be so good. May be we could have not signed Moura and Bergwijn and instead spent £50m on one player, may be thats the risk we need to take a bit more, smaller more compact squad of pricier players compared to our current squad which is over stocked with squad-quality players. But its easier said than done and also puts all your eggs in one basket
The difference is so apparent. City have an abundance of £50m+ players all of whom they have purchased, with Foden being a local boy made good. Mahrez sits of their bench and he is £15m more expensive than Spurs record signing, NDombele.
posted on 14/2/21
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champione (U1108)
posted 3 minutes ago
Laporte gets injured for 3 months and they spend 100m plus and 2 new defenders
We lost 3 for the season and spend 500k at Primark for a championship player and a kid.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
See and people go on about suck it up and let it be?
It's just not fair. If I am in a 24Hrs LeMans racing, and keep swapping my car every hour, of course, I should win it?
My team will always have the most freshest and best cars in this endurance race? Clear advantage.
posted on 14/2/21
comment by Islington Spur (U18857)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 17 minutes ago
Pep doesn't spend it or sign them tbf but yes teams with high wage bills and transfer spends tend to do better.
Spyrs have spent plenty btw. Their spend per trophy is one of the worst in Premier League history.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tottenham spend far far less on wages then the other top six. This inhibits the talent we can procure. I'm sure we would have won a couple of titles if we had spent the same amount as Man City, Liverpool, Man U Chelsea and Arsenal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/how-every-premier-league-clubs-wage-bill-compares-to-their-league-position/
posted on 14/2/21
We have not lived beyond our means
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Massively in debt and took out a further 9 figure loan this summer.
posted on 14/2/21
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 25 minutes ago
He’s a fraud. What’s he ever done that’s worth talking about? People make out like he took over a City team who were struggling to get in the top 4.
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They made the top 4 on goal difference the year before he took over.
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