Very dull, hate we set up not to lose 1st nowadays
Missed the game today.
Was it a game of limited chances?
comment by LegendOsgood (U7946)
posted 44 seconds ago
Very dull, hate we set up not to lose 1st nowadays
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Think it's due to covid and no fans a lot of it. There's no pressure on the players from fans getting frustrated so a point doesn't feel as bad to them as it normally would.
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 seconds ago
Missed the game today.
Was it a game of limited chances?
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Both teams set up not to lose
Utd were marginally better but to be honest you didn't miss anything of quality especially the passing it was atrocious from both
Tuchel has had very little time to coach Chelsea, what's Ole's excuse with Utd?!
Chelsea have set up every game under Tuchel the same way tbf
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 seconds ago
Missed the game today.
Was it a game of limited chances?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Both teams set up not to lose
Utd were marginally better but to be honest you didn't miss anything of quality especially the passing it was atrocious from both
Tuchel has had very little time to coach Chelsea, what's Ole's excuse with Utd?!
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Cheers Plump
What's Ole's excuse?
To not lose the game
I'm just worried that we are incapable of beating any big teams in the PL this season.
But first, we need to learn how to score against them.
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 seconds ago
Missed the game today.
Was it a game of limited chances?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Both teams set up not to lose
Utd were marginally better but to be honest you didn't miss anything of quality especially the passing it was atrocious from both
Tuchel has had very little time to coach Chelsea, what's Ole's excuse with Utd?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cheers Plump
What's Ole's excuse?
To not lose the game
I'm just worried that we are incapable of beating any big teams in the PL this season.
But first, we need to learn how to score against them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you can't beat these so called top sides then you can forget about trophies.
2nd might be best Ole can give us which is not bad but for feck sake's we should be doing better given the resources at Ole's disposal!
If you can't beat these so called top sides then you can forget about trophies.
....
He beat most of them last year. Didn’t make him win any trophies.
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 seconds ago
Missed the game today.
Was it a game of limited chances?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Both teams set up not to lose
Utd were marginally better but to be honest you didn't miss anything of quality especially the passing it was atrocious from both
Tuchel has had very little time to coach Chelsea, what's Ole's excuse with Utd?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cheers Plump
What's Ole's excuse?
To not lose the game
I'm just worried that we are incapable of beating any big teams in the PL this season.
But first, we need to learn how to score against them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you can't beat these so called top sides then you can forget about trophies.
2nd might be best Ole can give us which is not bad but for feck sake's we should be doing better given the resources at Ole's disposal!
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In fairness, we're up against an elite City side who are already in their mojo mood. We were never catching them once they got back form.
As for against the big 6, we still have some work work to do to improve. We're still a work in progress.
Even if we had fans allowed back into stadiums, we're still someway short of being genuine title winning contenders.
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 seconds ago
Missed the game today.
Was it a game of limited chances?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Both teams set up not to lose
Utd were marginally better but to be honest you didn't miss anything of quality especially the passing it was atrocious from both
Tuchel has had very little time to coach Chelsea, what's Ole's excuse with Utd?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cheers Plump
What's Ole's excuse?
To not lose the game
I'm just worried that we are incapable of beating any big teams in the PL this season.
But first, we need to learn how to score against them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you can't beat these so called top sides then you can forget about trophies.
2nd might be best Ole can give us which is not bad but for feck sake's we should be doing better given the resources at Ole's disposal!
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In fairness, we're up against an elite City side who are already in their mojo mood. We were never catching them once they got back form.
As for against the big 6, we still have some work work to do to improve. We're still a work in progress.
Even if we had fans allowed back into stadiums, we're still someway short of being genuine title winning contenders.
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Agreed about improving our performances against the top sides but a 2 year work in progress?
Last season before BRUNO we were very good against the top sides but struggled against lesser ones, the total opposite is the case this season. Could be that managers of top sides are cautious, just like Ole is especially after the mauling by Spurs, the net effect is a stalemate in so many matches. Take some risks, mix it up a little.
Also, Ole must be one of worst users of subs in history. So late and ineffectual that he ought to not bother.
What frustrates more than anything is you take out counter attacks and look at our general performances in terms of passing, especially passing, work rate, defending as a unit and tempo, it's not great. We're getting results but with more convincing performances we would be getting even better results.
If 2 years is WIP, at what point do we say Ole has enough time?! 3, 4, 5 years?
When Fergie came to United we were the biggest and richest club, with no oil money up against us.
It took Fergie a fair bit longer than Ole's had to bring us success. We, and I include myself, wanted him fired.
I was showing my usual foresight there. I'm not going to do it again.
I think City, United and Liverpool all getting royal spankings at the start of the season has scared managers into submission in these games.
comment by Anne Ziety (U22412)
posted 6 minutes ago
I think City, United and Liverpool all getting royal spankings at the start of the season has scared managers into submission in these games.
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City and Liverpool aren’t playing with fear in these games.
How long has it been since our last league title. 8 years can see it being other 8 years at this rate. We are not even close to competing with City. Far to many players short of a title winning squad. GK, LB 2xCB DM RW CF
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 11 minutes ago
When Fergie came to United we were the biggest and richest club, with no oil money up against us.
It took Fergie a fair bit longer than Ole's had to bring us success. We, and I include myself, wanted him fired.
I was showing my usual foresight there. I'm not going to do it again.
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SAF proved himself at St Mirren and Aberdeen, what is Ole's track record?! It was frustrating but there were telltale signs of greenshoots developing under SAF and the side blossoming into something special early into his tenure but it was awful by and large, nothing compared to what we are watching now.
SAF never had the same resources as Ole to begin with.
Ole is too nice a man to ever succeed as manager. Too timid. And that also comes across in our play, we lack leaders and warriors.
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 seconds ago
Missed the game today.
Was it a game of limited chances?
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Both teams set up not to lose
Utd were marginally better but to be honest you didn't miss anything of quality especially the passing it was atrocious from both
Tuchel has had very little time to coach Chelsea, what's Ole's excuse with Utd?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cheers Plump
What's Ole's excuse?
To not lose the game
I'm just worried that we are incapable of beating any big teams in the PL this season.
But first, we need to learn how to score against them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you can't beat these so called top sides then you can forget about trophies.
2nd might be best Ole can give us which is not bad but for feck sake's we should be doing better given the resources at Ole's disposal!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In fairness, we're up against an elite City side who are already in their mojo mood. We were never catching them once they got back form.
As for against the big 6, we still have some work work to do to improve. We're still a work in progress.
Even if we had fans allowed back into stadiums, we're still someway short of being genuine title winning contenders.
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Agreed about improving our performances against the top sides but a 2 year work in progress?
Last season before BRUNO we were very good against the top sides but struggled against lesser ones, the total opposite is the case this season. Could be that managers of top sides are cautious, just like Ole is especially after the mauling by Spurs, the net effect is a stalemate in so many matches. Take some risks, mix it up a little.
Also, Ole must be one of worst users of subs in history. So late and ineffectual that he ought to not bother.
What frustrates more than anything is you take out counter attacks and look at our general performances in terms of passing, especially passing, work rate, defending as a unit and tempo, it's not great. We're getting results but with more convincing performances we would be getting even better results.
If 2 years is WIP, at what point do we say Ole has enough time?! 3, 4, 5 years?
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Everytime we get a new manager in, it often frustrating starts all over again.
Ole was never going to a top top manager, but always one who would rebuild the foundations. We may never even win a title or one of the major European cups with him. But seeing as we've contained some sort of league position consistency under Ole, we may well persist with him until he can't take us any further.
How far that is, is anyone's guess as at the end of the day, it's down to the incompeteant board to decide IF we need a better manage to come in and bring us silverware in the future, or when Ole decides he can't take us any further.
Fergie certainly did have the same resources, even in Sir Matt time onwards we nearly always had the record signing.
The football was dire à lot of the time, that's why the banner was flown over the ground.
There was no sign of anything blossoming for ages, that's hindsight talking. Go back and read some reports from the time.
I couldn't give tuppence for track record, what track record did Pep have at Barcelona.
I'm not saying Ole is another Fergie, because I doubt that. But he may just have enough to bring us a trophy this year, and maybe a title in the next couple of seasons.
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 seconds ago
Missed the game today.
Was it a game of limited chances?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Both teams set up not to lose
Utd were marginally better but to be honest you didn't miss anything of quality especially the passing it was atrocious from both
Tuchel has had very little time to coach Chelsea, what's Ole's excuse with Utd?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cheers Plump
What's Ole's excuse?
To not lose the game
I'm just worried that we are incapable of beating any big teams in the PL this season.
But first, we need to learn how to score against them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you can't beat these so called top sides then you can forget about trophies.
2nd might be best Ole can give us which is not bad but for feck sake's we should be doing better given the resources at Ole's disposal!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In fairness, we're up against an elite City side who are already in their mojo mood. We were never catching them once they got back form.
As for against the big 6, we still have some work work to do to improve. We're still a work in progress.
Even if we had fans allowed back into stadiums, we're still someway short of being genuine title winning contenders.
---------------------------------------
-------------------------------
Agreed about improving our performances against the top sides but a 2 year work in progress?
Last season before BRUNO we were very good against the top sides but struggled against lesser ones, the total opposite is the case this season. Could be that managers of top sides are cautious, just like Ole is especially after the mauling by Spurs, the net effect is a stalemate in so many matches. Take some risks, mix it up a little.
Also, Ole must be one of worst users of subs in history. So late and ineffectual that he ought to not bother.
What frustrates more than anything is you take out counter attacks and look at our general performances in terms of passing, especially passing, work rate, defending as a unit and tempo, it's not great. We're getting results but with more convincing performances we would be getting even better results.
If 2 years is WIP, at what point do we say Ole has enough time?! 3, 4, 5 years?
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Everytime we get a new manager in, it often frustrating starts all over again.
Ole was never going to a top top manager, but always one who would rebuild the foundations. We may never even win a title or one of the major European cups with him. But seeing as we've contained some sort of league position consistency under Ole, we may well persist with him until he can't take us any further.
How far that is, is anyone's guess as at the end of the day, it's down to the incompeteant board to decide IF we need a better manage to come in and bring us silverware in the future, or when Ole decides he can't take us any further.
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If you talk to some of the brown nosers here they don't care about trophies. Utd don't need trophies.
Being in contention (to the league) by chance and not design is the 15 minutes of thrill they all needed. Contenders indeed 😂
I get your point about turmoil and frustration each successive change brings in. 2 years on and we're still scratching round for decent, consistent performances. Next two transfer windows will be massive for Ole, if Hendo is not the future then we need DDG's long term replacement, a top quality CB, a RB, RW, CDM and CF.
But doesn't matter who we bring in, do we honestly believe Ole would bring us success? What does success look like to people here?
- 2nd?
- Semi finalists?
- Finalist?
- Top 4 and Cup?
- Outside of top 4?
- Outside of top 4 and cup?
- League winners?
- League winners and cup?
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
I'm not saying Ole is another Fergie, because I doubt that. But he may just have enough to bring us a trophy this year, and maybe a title in the next couple of seasons.
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Would help if we were adventurous against the big boys.
How far that is, is anyone's guess as at the end of the day, it's down to the incompeteant board to decide IF we need a better manage to come in and bring us silverware in the future, or when Ole decides he can't take us any further.
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I don’t think Ole would make that decision, it would be taken out of his hands.
Problem is if the club overestimate the quality of the squad and bring in a pragmatic, win now, manager that won’t be well equipped enough to have this group of playing doing so. Conte is probably the only man around that could do that, but it’s well documented the issues he causes with the clubs when they don’t meet his demands for players.
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posted 13 minutes ago
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posted 33 minutes ago
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posted 9 minutes ago
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posted 12 minutes ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 12 seconds ago
Missed the game today.
Was it a game of limited chances?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Both teams set up not to lose
Utd were marginally better but to be honest you didn't miss anything of quality especially the passing it was atrocious from both
Tuchel has had very little time to coach Chelsea, what's Ole's excuse with Utd?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cheers Plump
What's Ole's excuse?
To not lose the game
I'm just worried that we are incapable of beating any big teams in the PL this season.
But first, we need to learn how to score against them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you can't beat these so called top sides then you can forget about trophies.
2nd might be best Ole can give us which is not bad but for feck sake's we should be doing better given the resources at Ole's disposal!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In fairness, we're up against an elite City side who are already in their mojo mood. We were never catching them once they got back form.
As for against the big 6, we still have some work work to do to improve. We're still a work in progress.
Even if we had fans allowed back into stadiums, we're still someway short of being genuine title winning contenders.
---------------------------------------
-------------------------------
Agreed about improving our performances against the top sides but a 2 year work in progress?
Last season before BRUNO we were very good against the top sides but struggled against lesser ones, the total opposite is the case this season. Could be that managers of top sides are cautious, just like Ole is especially after the mauling by Spurs, the net effect is a stalemate in so many matches. Take some risks, mix it up a little.
Also, Ole must be one of worst users of subs in history. So late and ineffectual that he ought to not bother.
What frustrates more than anything is you take out counter attacks and look at our general performances in terms of passing, especially passing, work rate, defending as a unit and tempo, it's not great. We're getting results but with more convincing performances we would be getting even better results.
If 2 years is WIP, at what point do we say Ole has enough time?! 3, 4, 5 years?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Everytime we get a new manager in, it often frustrating starts all over again.
Ole was never going to a top top manager, but always one who would rebuild the foundations. We may never even win a title or one of the major European cups with him. But seeing as we've contained some sort of league position consistency under Ole, we may well persist with him until he can't take us any further.
How far that is, is anyone's guess as at the end of the day, it's down to the incompeteant board to decide IF we need a better manage to come in and bring us silverware in the future, or when Ole decides he can't take us any further.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you talk to some of the brown nosers here they don't care about trophies. Utd don't need trophies.
Being in contention (to the league) by chance and not design is the 15 minutes of thrill they all needed. Contenders indeed 😂
I get your point about turmoil and frustration each successive change brings in. 2 years on and we're still scratching round for decent, consistent performances. Next two transfer windows will be massive for Ole, if Hendo is not the future then we need DDG's long term replacement, a top quality CB, a RB, RW, CDM and CF.
But doesn't matter who we bring in, do we honestly believe Ole would bring us success? What does success look like to people here?
- 2nd?
- Semi finalists?
- Finalist?
- Top 4 and Cup?
- Outside of top 4?
- Outside of top 4 and cup?
- League winners?
- League winners and cup?
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Ole has been frustrating at times during his time here, but so has the squad itself. We need better quality in some key areas, but it simply isn't going to happen in one quick swoop. This will take time, and patience is one thing some fans can quickly grow tired off.
That being said, Ole has overseen some of United's best periods since we last won the league. But this has simply papered over some flaws. And it's some of these flaws that maybe Ole's or the team's downall if they are not addressed.
Somebody said above that second isn't good enough for a club with our resources. There are at least clubs with more resources than us.
Two clubs with better managers.
We all know we haven't got the best, or will get him.
No one with any certainty can say who would have done better than Ole up to this point, or who can take us on.
It may come as a surprise to some that those of us who are currently supporting Ole, our manager, would love a dynamic young Scotsman to come along and give us 25 years of glory
comment by Fred The Red (U22224)
posted 56 minutes ago
How long has it been since our last league title. 8 years can see it being other 8 years at this rate. We are not even close to competing with City. Far to many players short of a title winning squad. GK, LB 2xCB DM RW CF
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Being Manchester United doesn't give us the automatic right to win the league, In our entire history only 3 managers have won us the league and our successes have come in 15-20 year periods with long gaps in between.
Of course I want us winning the league every year, but I'm certainly not going to get pretentious because we have gone 8 years without a title.
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posted on 28/2/21
Very dull, hate we set up not to lose 1st nowadays
posted on 28/2/21
Missed the game today.
Was it a game of limited chances?
posted on 28/2/21
comment by LegendOsgood (U7946)
posted 44 seconds ago
Very dull, hate we set up not to lose 1st nowadays
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Think it's due to covid and no fans a lot of it. There's no pressure on the players from fans getting frustrated so a point doesn't feel as bad to them as it normally would.
posted on 28/2/21
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 seconds ago
Missed the game today.
Was it a game of limited chances?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Both teams set up not to lose
Utd were marginally better but to be honest you didn't miss anything of quality especially the passing it was atrocious from both
Tuchel has had very little time to coach Chelsea, what's Ole's excuse with Utd?!
posted on 28/2/21
Chelsea have set up every game under Tuchel the same way tbf
posted on 28/2/21
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 seconds ago
Missed the game today.
Was it a game of limited chances?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Both teams set up not to lose
Utd were marginally better but to be honest you didn't miss anything of quality especially the passing it was atrocious from both
Tuchel has had very little time to coach Chelsea, what's Ole's excuse with Utd?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cheers Plump
What's Ole's excuse?
To not lose the game
I'm just worried that we are incapable of beating any big teams in the PL this season.
But first, we need to learn how to score against them.
posted on 28/2/21
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 seconds ago
Missed the game today.
Was it a game of limited chances?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Both teams set up not to lose
Utd were marginally better but to be honest you didn't miss anything of quality especially the passing it was atrocious from both
Tuchel has had very little time to coach Chelsea, what's Ole's excuse with Utd?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cheers Plump
What's Ole's excuse?
To not lose the game
I'm just worried that we are incapable of beating any big teams in the PL this season.
But first, we need to learn how to score against them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you can't beat these so called top sides then you can forget about trophies.
2nd might be best Ole can give us which is not bad but for feck sake's we should be doing better given the resources at Ole's disposal!
posted on 28/2/21
If you can't beat these so called top sides then you can forget about trophies.
....
He beat most of them last year. Didn’t make him win any trophies.
posted on 28/2/21
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 seconds ago
Missed the game today.
Was it a game of limited chances?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Both teams set up not to lose
Utd were marginally better but to be honest you didn't miss anything of quality especially the passing it was atrocious from both
Tuchel has had very little time to coach Chelsea, what's Ole's excuse with Utd?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cheers Plump
What's Ole's excuse?
To not lose the game
I'm just worried that we are incapable of beating any big teams in the PL this season.
But first, we need to learn how to score against them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you can't beat these so called top sides then you can forget about trophies.
2nd might be best Ole can give us which is not bad but for feck sake's we should be doing better given the resources at Ole's disposal!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In fairness, we're up against an elite City side who are already in their mojo mood. We were never catching them once they got back form.
As for against the big 6, we still have some work work to do to improve. We're still a work in progress.
Even if we had fans allowed back into stadiums, we're still someway short of being genuine title winning contenders.
posted on 28/2/21
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 seconds ago
Missed the game today.
Was it a game of limited chances?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Both teams set up not to lose
Utd were marginally better but to be honest you didn't miss anything of quality especially the passing it was atrocious from both
Tuchel has had very little time to coach Chelsea, what's Ole's excuse with Utd?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cheers Plump
What's Ole's excuse?
To not lose the game
I'm just worried that we are incapable of beating any big teams in the PL this season.
But first, we need to learn how to score against them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you can't beat these so called top sides then you can forget about trophies.
2nd might be best Ole can give us which is not bad but for feck sake's we should be doing better given the resources at Ole's disposal!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In fairness, we're up against an elite City side who are already in their mojo mood. We were never catching them once they got back form.
As for against the big 6, we still have some work work to do to improve. We're still a work in progress.
Even if we had fans allowed back into stadiums, we're still someway short of being genuine title winning contenders.
---------------------------------------
-------------------------------
Agreed about improving our performances against the top sides but a 2 year work in progress?
Last season before BRUNO we were very good against the top sides but struggled against lesser ones, the total opposite is the case this season. Could be that managers of top sides are cautious, just like Ole is especially after the mauling by Spurs, the net effect is a stalemate in so many matches. Take some risks, mix it up a little.
Also, Ole must be one of worst users of subs in history. So late and ineffectual that he ought to not bother.
What frustrates more than anything is you take out counter attacks and look at our general performances in terms of passing, especially passing, work rate, defending as a unit and tempo, it's not great. We're getting results but with more convincing performances we would be getting even better results.
If 2 years is WIP, at what point do we say Ole has enough time?! 3, 4, 5 years?
posted on 28/2/21
When Fergie came to United we were the biggest and richest club, with no oil money up against us.
It took Fergie a fair bit longer than Ole's had to bring us success. We, and I include myself, wanted him fired.
I was showing my usual foresight there. I'm not going to do it again.
posted on 28/2/21
I think City, United and Liverpool all getting royal spankings at the start of the season has scared managers into submission in these games.
posted on 28/2/21
comment by Anne Ziety (U22412)
posted 6 minutes ago
I think City, United and Liverpool all getting royal spankings at the start of the season has scared managers into submission in these games.
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City and Liverpool aren’t playing with fear in these games.
posted on 28/2/21
How long has it been since our last league title. 8 years can see it being other 8 years at this rate. We are not even close to competing with City. Far to many players short of a title winning squad. GK, LB 2xCB DM RW CF
posted on 28/2/21
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 11 minutes ago
When Fergie came to United we were the biggest and richest club, with no oil money up against us.
It took Fergie a fair bit longer than Ole's had to bring us success. We, and I include myself, wanted him fired.
I was showing my usual foresight there. I'm not going to do it again.
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SAF proved himself at St Mirren and Aberdeen, what is Ole's track record?! It was frustrating but there were telltale signs of greenshoots developing under SAF and the side blossoming into something special early into his tenure but it was awful by and large, nothing compared to what we are watching now.
SAF never had the same resources as Ole to begin with.
Ole is too nice a man to ever succeed as manager. Too timid. And that also comes across in our play, we lack leaders and warriors.
posted on 28/2/21
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posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 9 minutes ago
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posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 12 seconds ago
Missed the game today.
Was it a game of limited chances?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Both teams set up not to lose
Utd were marginally better but to be honest you didn't miss anything of quality especially the passing it was atrocious from both
Tuchel has had very little time to coach Chelsea, what's Ole's excuse with Utd?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cheers Plump
What's Ole's excuse?
To not lose the game
I'm just worried that we are incapable of beating any big teams in the PL this season.
But first, we need to learn how to score against them.
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If you can't beat these so called top sides then you can forget about trophies.
2nd might be best Ole can give us which is not bad but for feck sake's we should be doing better given the resources at Ole's disposal!
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In fairness, we're up against an elite City side who are already in their mojo mood. We were never catching them once they got back form.
As for against the big 6, we still have some work work to do to improve. We're still a work in progress.
Even if we had fans allowed back into stadiums, we're still someway short of being genuine title winning contenders.
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Agreed about improving our performances against the top sides but a 2 year work in progress?
Last season before BRUNO we were very good against the top sides but struggled against lesser ones, the total opposite is the case this season. Could be that managers of top sides are cautious, just like Ole is especially after the mauling by Spurs, the net effect is a stalemate in so many matches. Take some risks, mix it up a little.
Also, Ole must be one of worst users of subs in history. So late and ineffectual that he ought to not bother.
What frustrates more than anything is you take out counter attacks and look at our general performances in terms of passing, especially passing, work rate, defending as a unit and tempo, it's not great. We're getting results but with more convincing performances we would be getting even better results.
If 2 years is WIP, at what point do we say Ole has enough time?! 3, 4, 5 years?
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Everytime we get a new manager in, it often frustrating starts all over again.
Ole was never going to a top top manager, but always one who would rebuild the foundations. We may never even win a title or one of the major European cups with him. But seeing as we've contained some sort of league position consistency under Ole, we may well persist with him until he can't take us any further.
How far that is, is anyone's guess as at the end of the day, it's down to the incompeteant board to decide IF we need a better manage to come in and bring us silverware in the future, or when Ole decides he can't take us any further.
posted on 28/2/21
Fergie certainly did have the same resources, even in Sir Matt time onwards we nearly always had the record signing.
The football was dire à lot of the time, that's why the banner was flown over the ground.
There was no sign of anything blossoming for ages, that's hindsight talking. Go back and read some reports from the time.
I couldn't give tuppence for track record, what track record did Pep have at Barcelona.
posted on 28/2/21
posted on 28/2/21
I'm not saying Ole is another Fergie, because I doubt that. But he may just have enough to bring us a trophy this year, and maybe a title in the next couple of seasons.
posted on 28/2/21
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Missed the game today.
Was it a game of limited chances?
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Both teams set up not to lose
Utd were marginally better but to be honest you didn't miss anything of quality especially the passing it was atrocious from both
Tuchel has had very little time to coach Chelsea, what's Ole's excuse with Utd?!
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Cheers Plump
What's Ole's excuse?
To not lose the game
I'm just worried that we are incapable of beating any big teams in the PL this season.
But first, we need to learn how to score against them.
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If you can't beat these so called top sides then you can forget about trophies.
2nd might be best Ole can give us which is not bad but for feck sake's we should be doing better given the resources at Ole's disposal!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In fairness, we're up against an elite City side who are already in their mojo mood. We were never catching them once they got back form.
As for against the big 6, we still have some work work to do to improve. We're still a work in progress.
Even if we had fans allowed back into stadiums, we're still someway short of being genuine title winning contenders.
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Agreed about improving our performances against the top sides but a 2 year work in progress?
Last season before BRUNO we were very good against the top sides but struggled against lesser ones, the total opposite is the case this season. Could be that managers of top sides are cautious, just like Ole is especially after the mauling by Spurs, the net effect is a stalemate in so many matches. Take some risks, mix it up a little.
Also, Ole must be one of worst users of subs in history. So late and ineffectual that he ought to not bother.
What frustrates more than anything is you take out counter attacks and look at our general performances in terms of passing, especially passing, work rate, defending as a unit and tempo, it's not great. We're getting results but with more convincing performances we would be getting even better results.
If 2 years is WIP, at what point do we say Ole has enough time?! 3, 4, 5 years?
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Everytime we get a new manager in, it often frustrating starts all over again.
Ole was never going to a top top manager, but always one who would rebuild the foundations. We may never even win a title or one of the major European cups with him. But seeing as we've contained some sort of league position consistency under Ole, we may well persist with him until he can't take us any further.
How far that is, is anyone's guess as at the end of the day, it's down to the incompeteant board to decide IF we need a better manage to come in and bring us silverware in the future, or when Ole decides he can't take us any further.
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If you talk to some of the brown nosers here they don't care about trophies. Utd don't need trophies.
Being in contention (to the league) by chance and not design is the 15 minutes of thrill they all needed. Contenders indeed 😂
I get your point about turmoil and frustration each successive change brings in. 2 years on and we're still scratching round for decent, consistent performances. Next two transfer windows will be massive for Ole, if Hendo is not the future then we need DDG's long term replacement, a top quality CB, a RB, RW, CDM and CF.
But doesn't matter who we bring in, do we honestly believe Ole would bring us success? What does success look like to people here?
- 2nd?
- Semi finalists?
- Finalist?
- Top 4 and Cup?
- Outside of top 4?
- Outside of top 4 and cup?
- League winners?
- League winners and cup?
posted on 28/2/21
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
I'm not saying Ole is another Fergie, because I doubt that. But he may just have enough to bring us a trophy this year, and maybe a title in the next couple of seasons.
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Would help if we were adventurous against the big boys.
posted on 28/2/21
How far that is, is anyone's guess as at the end of the day, it's down to the incompeteant board to decide IF we need a better manage to come in and bring us silverware in the future, or when Ole decides he can't take us any further.
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I don’t think Ole would make that decision, it would be taken out of his hands.
Problem is if the club overestimate the quality of the squad and bring in a pragmatic, win now, manager that won’t be well equipped enough to have this group of playing doing so. Conte is probably the only man around that could do that, but it’s well documented the issues he causes with the clubs when they don’t meet his demands for players.
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posted 33 minutes ago
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Missed the game today.
Was it a game of limited chances?
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Both teams set up not to lose
Utd were marginally better but to be honest you didn't miss anything of quality especially the passing it was atrocious from both
Tuchel has had very little time to coach Chelsea, what's Ole's excuse with Utd?!
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Cheers Plump
What's Ole's excuse?
To not lose the game
I'm just worried that we are incapable of beating any big teams in the PL this season.
But first, we need to learn how to score against them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you can't beat these so called top sides then you can forget about trophies.
2nd might be best Ole can give us which is not bad but for feck sake's we should be doing better given the resources at Ole's disposal!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In fairness, we're up against an elite City side who are already in their mojo mood. We were never catching them once they got back form.
As for against the big 6, we still have some work work to do to improve. We're still a work in progress.
Even if we had fans allowed back into stadiums, we're still someway short of being genuine title winning contenders.
---------------------------------------
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Agreed about improving our performances against the top sides but a 2 year work in progress?
Last season before BRUNO we were very good against the top sides but struggled against lesser ones, the total opposite is the case this season. Could be that managers of top sides are cautious, just like Ole is especially after the mauling by Spurs, the net effect is a stalemate in so many matches. Take some risks, mix it up a little.
Also, Ole must be one of worst users of subs in history. So late and ineffectual that he ought to not bother.
What frustrates more than anything is you take out counter attacks and look at our general performances in terms of passing, especially passing, work rate, defending as a unit and tempo, it's not great. We're getting results but with more convincing performances we would be getting even better results.
If 2 years is WIP, at what point do we say Ole has enough time?! 3, 4, 5 years?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Everytime we get a new manager in, it often frustrating starts all over again.
Ole was never going to a top top manager, but always one who would rebuild the foundations. We may never even win a title or one of the major European cups with him. But seeing as we've contained some sort of league position consistency under Ole, we may well persist with him until he can't take us any further.
How far that is, is anyone's guess as at the end of the day, it's down to the incompeteant board to decide IF we need a better manage to come in and bring us silverware in the future, or when Ole decides he can't take us any further.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you talk to some of the brown nosers here they don't care about trophies. Utd don't need trophies.
Being in contention (to the league) by chance and not design is the 15 minutes of thrill they all needed. Contenders indeed 😂
I get your point about turmoil and frustration each successive change brings in. 2 years on and we're still scratching round for decent, consistent performances. Next two transfer windows will be massive for Ole, if Hendo is not the future then we need DDG's long term replacement, a top quality CB, a RB, RW, CDM and CF.
But doesn't matter who we bring in, do we honestly believe Ole would bring us success? What does success look like to people here?
- 2nd?
- Semi finalists?
- Finalist?
- Top 4 and Cup?
- Outside of top 4?
- Outside of top 4 and cup?
- League winners?
- League winners and cup?
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Ole has been frustrating at times during his time here, but so has the squad itself. We need better quality in some key areas, but it simply isn't going to happen in one quick swoop. This will take time, and patience is one thing some fans can quickly grow tired off.
That being said, Ole has overseen some of United's best periods since we last won the league. But this has simply papered over some flaws. And it's some of these flaws that maybe Ole's or the team's downall if they are not addressed.
posted on 28/2/21
Somebody said above that second isn't good enough for a club with our resources. There are at least clubs with more resources than us.
Two clubs with better managers.
We all know we haven't got the best, or will get him.
No one with any certainty can say who would have done better than Ole up to this point, or who can take us on.
It may come as a surprise to some that those of us who are currently supporting Ole, our manager, would love a dynamic young Scotsman to come along and give us 25 years of glory
posted on 28/2/21
comment by Fred The Red (U22224)
posted 56 minutes ago
How long has it been since our last league title. 8 years can see it being other 8 years at this rate. We are not even close to competing with City. Far to many players short of a title winning squad. GK, LB 2xCB DM RW CF
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Being Manchester United doesn't give us the automatic right to win the league, In our entire history only 3 managers have won us the league and our successes have come in 15-20 year periods with long gaps in between.
Of course I want us winning the league every year, but I'm certainly not going to get pretentious because we have gone 8 years without a title.
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