Actually I think there’s a lot of validity to your observations, conclusions and proposals.
Whilst it’s clear Klopp, as a manager, is very capable the stubbornness is a trait he has continued to show. It was less critical when the players were not burnt out or injured.
Put centre backs in, have Fabinho protect them and put Thiago and Keita in midfield behind today's front three.
Since January Klopp sacrificed our two best midfielders in Fab and Hendo, to protect our inexperienced defenders due to the injury crisis. Before that we were still fighting for that top spot.
This has been the main catalyst to this disaster we now experience. You can blame Klopp for sacrificing our midfield, or the owners for not acting quickly enough in January. Still amazing that it took us till the end of the transfer window to sign someone, even before knowing Matip was out.
Now that we saw a glimpse of Fab in midfield again, and that Klopp might be willing to trust the rookie centre backs, hopefully we’ll see a change in fortune. Add in the return of Keita and Jota who looked lively, then maybe that could also spark something.
I dont think its that easy to change your style of play.
Keep doing what you're doing. Don't change.
So before this season you thought Klopp had glaring weaknesses with his tactics.
Just to clarify you averaged close to 100 points a season in the league for two years, and won a champions league.
You obviously struggled in a a lot of games.
Lol. Best comments from the wums.
We should stop playing at Anfield and just book a pitch at Stanley Park for our home games.
The reality is that we can do a great many things but first and foremost raising our game is what we need to do.
Play much quicker and first time.
About 50-55 mins there was a time to really up it yesterday but they had no extra year to give
Without Henderson in the middle, the team just doesn't work. As shown when Matip was finally out and Henderson had to join Fabinho at CB.
We were ok without Gomez and VVD until that point. We were top in fact. Just, and not playing great, but top all the same.
Whilst any team losing their three CB's is going to struggle badly. Especially as the kids just aren't good enough. William's is far too slow to make it and Phillip's is a Championship player at best.
We should have signed two CB's at the beginning of Jan, not the end. They would be up and running to a point by now. Remember it took Robertson half a season to integrate properly to the way we play.
However, Klopps biggest problem will be how and who to replace Henderson with when the time comes.
I can't be bothered to look, but I bet we lose/draw most of our games when Henderson is out.
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 3 hours, 45 minutes ago
So before this season you thought Klopp had glaring weaknesses with his tactics.
Just to clarify you averaged close to 100 points a season in the league for two years, and won a champions league.
You obviously struggled in a a lot of games.
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No. What I said was, that when his primary tactics aren't working he was stubborn and hadn't shown ideas to change it up and surprise teams. This is how teams can come to anfield and know how to play to get a result. If your tactics can be flexible and unpredictable, you are harder to beat.
I'm not saying that's the only issue here, of course. Yes the injury yes the lack of January transfer but if he had shown tactical flexibility previously, we may be less predictable right now also have more variety in our squad depth
Agree with the above, the Hendo injury has really been the straw that broke the camels back. You could argue that’s the spine of the team facked.
Alli is all over the place, VVD out for the season Hendo more or less out for the season and Firmino now an empty shirt.
Team id like to see going fwd until injuries improve
‐-----------------allison
Trent---phillips--kabak--robbo
----------------fab----wij
-----jota--thiago/jones--mane
----‐-------------salah
With a deeper def line, we will be less susceptible to the long ball. Phillips is decent in the air, kabak had some pace. Let them work together to begin am understanding. Rotate Robbo with the Greek chap. He needs a rest. Milner csn rotate with trent. Using salah up top keeps their def back, giving mf more space. May work
comment by Klopps Fuzzy Beard formerly KFF (U1822)
posted 41 seconds ago
Team id like to see going fwd until injuries improve
‐-----------------allison
Trent---phillips--kabak--robbo
----------------fab----wij
-----jota--thiago/jones--mane
----‐-------------salah
With a deeper def line, we will be less susceptible to the long ball. Phillips is decent in the air, kabak had some pace. Let them work together to begin am understanding. Rotate Robbo with the Greek chap. He needs a rest. Milner csn rotate with trent. Using salah up top keeps their def back, giving mf more space. May work
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Nah I would play:
-----------------------------------Ali
Neco--Trent--Phillips---Kabab---Rhys---Fab----Robbo---Tsimikas
-------------------------Milner-------Wij
Bench:
Ben Davies
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champione (U1108)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
We should stop playing at Anfield and just book a pitch at Stanley Park for our home games.
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Use the spade in the ground G&H used for one of the corner flags.
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posted on 7/3/21
Actually I think there’s a lot of validity to your observations, conclusions and proposals.
Whilst it’s clear Klopp, as a manager, is very capable the stubbornness is a trait he has continued to show. It was less critical when the players were not burnt out or injured.
posted on 7/3/21
Put centre backs in, have Fabinho protect them and put Thiago and Keita in midfield behind today's front three.
posted on 7/3/21
Since January Klopp sacrificed our two best midfielders in Fab and Hendo, to protect our inexperienced defenders due to the injury crisis. Before that we were still fighting for that top spot.
This has been the main catalyst to this disaster we now experience. You can blame Klopp for sacrificing our midfield, or the owners for not acting quickly enough in January. Still amazing that it took us till the end of the transfer window to sign someone, even before knowing Matip was out.
Now that we saw a glimpse of Fab in midfield again, and that Klopp might be willing to trust the rookie centre backs, hopefully we’ll see a change in fortune. Add in the return of Keita and Jota who looked lively, then maybe that could also spark something.
posted on 7/3/21
I dont think its that easy to change your style of play.
posted on 8/3/21
Keep doing what you're doing. Don't change.
posted on 8/3/21
So before this season you thought Klopp had glaring weaknesses with his tactics.
Just to clarify you averaged close to 100 points a season in the league for two years, and won a champions league.
You obviously struggled in a a lot of games.
posted on 8/3/21
Lol. Best comments from the wums.
posted on 8/3/21
We should stop playing at Anfield and just book a pitch at Stanley Park for our home games.
posted on 8/3/21
The reality is that we can do a great many things but first and foremost raising our game is what we need to do.
Play much quicker and first time.
About 50-55 mins there was a time to really up it yesterday but they had no extra year to give
posted on 8/3/21
Without Henderson in the middle, the team just doesn't work. As shown when Matip was finally out and Henderson had to join Fabinho at CB.
We were ok without Gomez and VVD until that point. We were top in fact. Just, and not playing great, but top all the same.
Whilst any team losing their three CB's is going to struggle badly. Especially as the kids just aren't good enough. William's is far too slow to make it and Phillip's is a Championship player at best.
We should have signed two CB's at the beginning of Jan, not the end. They would be up and running to a point by now. Remember it took Robertson half a season to integrate properly to the way we play.
However, Klopps biggest problem will be how and who to replace Henderson with when the time comes.
I can't be bothered to look, but I bet we lose/draw most of our games when Henderson is out.
posted on 8/3/21
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 3 hours, 45 minutes ago
So before this season you thought Klopp had glaring weaknesses with his tactics.
Just to clarify you averaged close to 100 points a season in the league for two years, and won a champions league.
You obviously struggled in a a lot of games.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No. What I said was, that when his primary tactics aren't working he was stubborn and hadn't shown ideas to change it up and surprise teams. This is how teams can come to anfield and know how to play to get a result. If your tactics can be flexible and unpredictable, you are harder to beat.
I'm not saying that's the only issue here, of course. Yes the injury yes the lack of January transfer but if he had shown tactical flexibility previously, we may be less predictable right now also have more variety in our squad depth
posted on 8/3/21
Agree with the above, the Hendo injury has really been the straw that broke the camels back. You could argue that’s the spine of the team facked.
Alli is all over the place, VVD out for the season Hendo more or less out for the season and Firmino now an empty shirt.
posted on 8/3/21
Team id like to see going fwd until injuries improve
‐-----------------allison
Trent---phillips--kabak--robbo
----------------fab----wij
-----jota--thiago/jones--mane
----‐-------------salah
With a deeper def line, we will be less susceptible to the long ball. Phillips is decent in the air, kabak had some pace. Let them work together to begin am understanding. Rotate Robbo with the Greek chap. He needs a rest. Milner csn rotate with trent. Using salah up top keeps their def back, giving mf more space. May work
posted on 8/3/21
comment by Klopps Fuzzy Beard formerly KFF (U1822)
posted 41 seconds ago
Team id like to see going fwd until injuries improve
‐-----------------allison
Trent---phillips--kabak--robbo
----------------fab----wij
-----jota--thiago/jones--mane
----‐-------------salah
With a deeper def line, we will be less susceptible to the long ball. Phillips is decent in the air, kabak had some pace. Let them work together to begin am understanding. Rotate Robbo with the Greek chap. He needs a rest. Milner csn rotate with trent. Using salah up top keeps their def back, giving mf more space. May work
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Nah I would play:
-----------------------------------Ali
Neco--Trent--Phillips---Kabab---Rhys---Fab----Robbo---Tsimikas
-------------------------Milner-------Wij
Bench:
Ben Davies
posted on 8/3/21
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champione (U1108)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
We should stop playing at Anfield and just book a pitch at Stanley Park for our home games.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Use the spade in the ground G&H used for one of the corner flags.
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