Utterly abysmal piece of writing this. Well done.
I think managers need to get the best out of what they have available and then build on that. I do not think Arteta has got anything like the best from the squad he took over let alone with the additions and changes that he wanted. Arteta has to take his share of the blame, but that doesnt excuse the players not putting the effort in.
I swear he missed those chances against Olympiacos on purpose just to prove a point to Arteta.
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Off to a flying start, surely it can't get any worse
Next, we should also offload Xhaka, Mustafi, Kolasinac, Gwendouzi etl before they infect our youngsters with the awful lazy attitudes of the past.
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comment by Herbie (U7136)
posted 11 minutes ago
Utterly abysmal piece of writing this. Well done.
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Ok who cares mate
comment by TBag. (U11806)
posted 11 seconds ago
I swear he missed those chances against Olympiacos on purpose just to prove a point to Arteta.
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Off to a flying start, surely it can't get any worse
Next, we should also offload Xhaka, Mustafi, Kolasinac, Gwendouzi etl before they infect our youngsters with the awful lazy attitudes of the past.
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I really am angry with some players above so I couldn’t care less about editing just mad as hell 😠
I don't think he would miss chances on purpose just to prove a point, he's a professional player, not a schoolboy player.
It's no secret he's had an attitude problem though, Klopp highlighted this during his latter Dortmund years. Guendouzi has also had his attitude issues as well which have been documented.
I think Guendouzi would be an asset to that Arsenal midfield alongside Partey, but it does need somebody who can manage those players. Aubameyang may be a lost cause and is now in his 30's, so in the next couple of seasons I can imagine he will be moved on.
I think the best course of action for Arsenal is to take a step backwards in terms of quality on the field to go forwards first.
comment by TBag. (U11806)
posted 1 minute ago
I swear he missed those chances against Olympiacos on purpose just to prove a point to Arteta.
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Off to a flying start, surely it can't get any worse
Next, we should also offload Xhaka, Mustafi, Kolasinac, Gwendouzi etl before they infect our youngsters with the awful lazy attitudes of the past.
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?????
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et al All of Wenger’s rubbish, all of them gone
I think its time to manage Auba out gradually and give Martinelli a run.Also get Balogun on the subs bench
I agree that Auba needs to be dropped , but don't agree that he deliberately misses chances to prove a point no professional footballer would ever do that.
He should be dropped simply because he is in poor form and is not contributing anything to the team.
Im not even sure that he should have ever been made captain either. Captains need to inspire the rest of the players especially when things are not going well either for the team or personally , and I don't think he does this. I think you may well see Tierney made captain next season.
Its time to give Martinelli a chance up front , his energy and pace are desperately needed at the moment.
Have a day off, Miss it on purpose lol. If anything he’d want to score to prove a point and say I told you so. He’s obviously going through a confidence crises.
comment by Herbie (U7136)
posted 4 hours, 41 minutes ago
Utterly abysmal piece of writing this. Well done.
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He’s obviously not missing on purpose. Think his attitude probably isn’t always great, but we would have known that and we still have him a big contract. I don’t mind one or two players in a squad not having the best attitudes, if they have talent to back it up. Loads of great teams have had these types. Auba does have the ability to score a lot, but if you want players like him to be a success you do have to play systems which works for them. If you don’t want to do that, then don’t buy them and don’t give them new deals. But it is possible to have 8/9 hard workers then 1 or 2 of the more prima Donna types and still be a good team. As long as the balance is right it’s fine
I don’t think he’s got a terrible attitude, but he is very much a player who if you’re not playing to his strengths he won’t offer much. He’s certainly going through some bad form, and is definitely a case for him to be dropped. But it is also on Arteta to work a system which gets the best out of him, and this season that’s been missing. Otherwise he’s never going to hit big numbers again
Personally I think Auba is fed up with the retain the ball at any cost tactics and being forced to be a front line defender. Square peg in a round hole.
he lazy culture under Wenger contributed to what we see now on and off the pitch, no wonder Mikel is fighting so many players from Gwendouzi to Auba, Ozil before that and other deadwoods still at the club.
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Is it right for fans to continue making such ridiculous statements unchecked.
Out of interest when does the Wenger era and his hold on the club actually end? I dont even remember Wenger finishing 8th or whatever positions we seem to finish in under his successors
comment by B10 - Boss (U22536)
posted 3 hours, 2 minutes ago
he lazy culture under Wenger contributed to what we see now on and off the pitch, no wonder Mikel is fighting so many players from Gwendouzi to Auba, Ozil before that and other deadwoods still at the club.
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Is it right for fans to continue making such ridiculous statements unchecked.
Out of interest when does the Wenger era and his hold on the club actually end? I dont even remember Wenger finishing 8th or whatever positions we seem to finish in under his successors
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5th under Emery, 8th under Emery and Arteta and I hope we can get as high as 8th under Arteta.
I agree with you though. Auba, Laca, Willian, Ozil and others were considered world class but under Arteta are questioned as whether they should even be starters even though we are now a midtable club.
I believe Auba missed those chances against Olympiacos on purpose, just to make a point.
Sorry but this is ridiculous.
comment by TheSkins (U3865)
posted 16 hours, 33 minutes ago
WB2 alt account?
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Give over
So Auba manages the golden boot 1st season under Emery, pushes for the golden boot his 2nd season, mostly under Emery. Then now in his 1st full season under Arteta, will be nowhere near the golden boot come game 38. And people really think the issue here is Auba?
OP he never missed anything "on purpose" he's just an unhappy player in a generally unhappy squad, being forced to play in a way he can't stand. You won't get good form for any length of time in those circumstances. That is the vast majority of the squad and I'm sure even the few happy players, would be happier and even better performing, if the team was allowed to play the football it is wants to and is equipped to play.
Attitude is a direct reflection of leadership, Arteta has projected nothing but a stinking bad attitude from the moment he stepped through the door. It's no surpise whatsoever that his team is bouncing it straight back at him. Or at least it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
Are you suggesting we sack Mikel and things will improve?
comment by Saka Odegaard-Rowe (U21751)
posted 18 minutes ago
Are you suggesting we sack Mikel and things will improve?
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Damned straight I am
That said though I do adamantly believe that we could also improve things greatly by keeping Arteta and simply forcing him to scrap his stupid "I'm going to make them play like City cos I wannabe Pep" idea he's gotten into his head.
Sack him or force his hand, I couldn't really care less since either or will produce the vastly improved results getting us back to somewhere near the performance levels we took for granted some 15 years or so. Although, 18 months here already would suggest that assuming relationships with players are salvageable, the force his hand option is the better one for the club. All depends on whether he's been too much of an asswad to ever get the dressing room back. If that's happened then it has to be sack him.
Arteta won't Drop Auba he will play every game possible.
This article...sheesh.
I will say that Auba is horribly out of form and if he is not scoring, he adds nothing to the team. Would like to see Martinelli given a run ( not one game) on that left side.
I'd also love to see Arteta pick a back line and stick with it for a bit aye. We have great individual players but the constant chopping and changing especially at CB does not help in creating a partnership across the back line
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posted on 7/4/21
Utterly abysmal piece of writing this. Well done.
posted on 7/4/21
I think managers need to get the best out of what they have available and then build on that. I do not think Arteta has got anything like the best from the squad he took over let alone with the additions and changes that he wanted. Arteta has to take his share of the blame, but that doesnt excuse the players not putting the effort in.
posted on 7/4/21
I swear he missed those chances against Olympiacos on purpose just to prove a point to Arteta.
__________________
Off to a flying start, surely it can't get any worse
Next, we should also offload Xhaka, Mustafi, Kolasinac, Gwendouzi etl before they infect our youngsters with the awful lazy attitudes of the past.
____________________
?????
posted on 7/4/21
comment by Herbie (U7136)
posted 11 minutes ago
Utterly abysmal piece of writing this. Well done.
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Ok who cares mate
posted on 7/4/21
comment by TBag. (U11806)
posted 11 seconds ago
I swear he missed those chances against Olympiacos on purpose just to prove a point to Arteta.
__________________
Off to a flying start, surely it can't get any worse
Next, we should also offload Xhaka, Mustafi, Kolasinac, Gwendouzi etl before they infect our youngsters with the awful lazy attitudes of the past.
____________________
?????
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I really am angry with some players above so I couldn’t care less about editing just mad as hell 😠
posted on 7/4/21
I don't think he would miss chances on purpose just to prove a point, he's a professional player, not a schoolboy player.
It's no secret he's had an attitude problem though, Klopp highlighted this during his latter Dortmund years. Guendouzi has also had his attitude issues as well which have been documented.
I think Guendouzi would be an asset to that Arsenal midfield alongside Partey, but it does need somebody who can manage those players. Aubameyang may be a lost cause and is now in his 30's, so in the next couple of seasons I can imagine he will be moved on.
I think the best course of action for Arsenal is to take a step backwards in terms of quality on the field to go forwards first.
posted on 7/4/21
comment by TBag. (U11806)
posted 1 minute ago
I swear he missed those chances against Olympiacos on purpose just to prove a point to Arteta.
__________________
Off to a flying start, surely it can't get any worse
Next, we should also offload Xhaka, Mustafi, Kolasinac, Gwendouzi etl before they infect our youngsters with the awful lazy attitudes of the past.
____________________
?????
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et al All of Wenger’s rubbish, all of them gone
posted on 7/4/21
I think its time to manage Auba out gradually and give Martinelli a run.Also get Balogun on the subs bench
posted on 7/4/21
I agree that Auba needs to be dropped , but don't agree that he deliberately misses chances to prove a point no professional footballer would ever do that.
He should be dropped simply because he is in poor form and is not contributing anything to the team.
Im not even sure that he should have ever been made captain either. Captains need to inspire the rest of the players especially when things are not going well either for the team or personally , and I don't think he does this. I think you may well see Tierney made captain next season.
Its time to give Martinelli a chance up front , his energy and pace are desperately needed at the moment.
posted on 7/4/21
Have a day off, Miss it on purpose lol. If anything he’d want to score to prove a point and say I told you so. He’s obviously going through a confidence crises.
posted on 7/4/21
WB2 alt account?
posted on 7/4/21
Lolzil MK2
posted on 7/4/21
comment by Herbie (U7136)
posted 4 hours, 41 minutes ago
Utterly abysmal piece of writing this. Well done.
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posted on 7/4/21
He’s obviously not missing on purpose. Think his attitude probably isn’t always great, but we would have known that and we still have him a big contract. I don’t mind one or two players in a squad not having the best attitudes, if they have talent to back it up. Loads of great teams have had these types. Auba does have the ability to score a lot, but if you want players like him to be a success you do have to play systems which works for them. If you don’t want to do that, then don’t buy them and don’t give them new deals. But it is possible to have 8/9 hard workers then 1 or 2 of the more prima Donna types and still be a good team. As long as the balance is right it’s fine
I don’t think he’s got a terrible attitude, but he is very much a player who if you’re not playing to his strengths he won’t offer much. He’s certainly going through some bad form, and is definitely a case for him to be dropped. But it is also on Arteta to work a system which gets the best out of him, and this season that’s been missing. Otherwise he’s never going to hit big numbers again
posted on 7/4/21
Personally I think Auba is fed up with the retain the ball at any cost tactics and being forced to be a front line defender. Square peg in a round hole.
posted on 8/4/21
he lazy culture under Wenger contributed to what we see now on and off the pitch, no wonder Mikel is fighting so many players from Gwendouzi to Auba, Ozil before that and other deadwoods still at the club.
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Is it right for fans to continue making such ridiculous statements unchecked.
Out of interest when does the Wenger era and his hold on the club actually end? I dont even remember Wenger finishing 8th or whatever positions we seem to finish in under his successors
posted on 8/4/21
comment by B10 - Boss (U22536)
posted 3 hours, 2 minutes ago
he lazy culture under Wenger contributed to what we see now on and off the pitch, no wonder Mikel is fighting so many players from Gwendouzi to Auba, Ozil before that and other deadwoods still at the club.
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Is it right for fans to continue making such ridiculous statements unchecked.
Out of interest when does the Wenger era and his hold on the club actually end? I dont even remember Wenger finishing 8th or whatever positions we seem to finish in under his successors
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5th under Emery, 8th under Emery and Arteta and I hope we can get as high as 8th under Arteta.
I agree with you though. Auba, Laca, Willian, Ozil and others were considered world class but under Arteta are questioned as whether they should even be starters even though we are now a midtable club.
posted on 8/4/21
I believe Auba missed those chances against Olympiacos on purpose, just to make a point.
Sorry but this is ridiculous.
posted on 8/4/21
comment by TheSkins (U3865)
posted 16 hours, 33 minutes ago
WB2 alt account?
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Give over
posted on 8/4/21
So Auba manages the golden boot 1st season under Emery, pushes for the golden boot his 2nd season, mostly under Emery. Then now in his 1st full season under Arteta, will be nowhere near the golden boot come game 38. And people really think the issue here is Auba?
OP he never missed anything "on purpose" he's just an unhappy player in a generally unhappy squad, being forced to play in a way he can't stand. You won't get good form for any length of time in those circumstances. That is the vast majority of the squad and I'm sure even the few happy players, would be happier and even better performing, if the team was allowed to play the football it is wants to and is equipped to play.
Attitude is a direct reflection of leadership, Arteta has projected nothing but a stinking bad attitude from the moment he stepped through the door. It's no surpise whatsoever that his team is bouncing it straight back at him. Or at least it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
posted on 8/4/21
Are you suggesting we sack Mikel and things will improve?
posted on 8/4/21
comment by Saka Odegaard-Rowe (U21751)
posted 18 minutes ago
Are you suggesting we sack Mikel and things will improve?
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Damned straight I am
That said though I do adamantly believe that we could also improve things greatly by keeping Arteta and simply forcing him to scrap his stupid "I'm going to make them play like City cos I wannabe Pep" idea he's gotten into his head.
Sack him or force his hand, I couldn't really care less since either or will produce the vastly improved results getting us back to somewhere near the performance levels we took for granted some 15 years or so. Although, 18 months here already would suggest that assuming relationships with players are salvageable, the force his hand option is the better one for the club. All depends on whether he's been too much of an asswad to ever get the dressing room back. If that's happened then it has to be sack him.
posted on 8/4/21
Arteta won't Drop Auba he will play every game possible.
posted on 8/4/21
This article...sheesh.
I will say that Auba is horribly out of form and if he is not scoring, he adds nothing to the team. Would like to see Martinelli given a run ( not one game) on that left side.
I'd also love to see Arteta pick a back line and stick with it for a bit aye. We have great individual players but the constant chopping and changing especially at CB does not help in creating a partnership across the back line
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