I think the dynamic will be different next season, as I think we will look to invest in the summer to allow a more progressive style of play.
If we have a poor summer though and continue being dull, I think there will be restlessness amongst some of the supporters. I have been at Molineux plenty of times when there have been boos at half time, so whether you think it is a minority or not; it is likely to happen as people get frustrated. I think it might have happened tonight had fans been in the stadium.
Don't think there is any doubt that fans would have been booing this season given the awful displays.
Also if we are dishing up this football next season after a positive summer then Nuno will be out of a job, Fosun will not sit back idly watching rubbish like that.
You only need to read the comments at half time on social media to see what fans thought. The majority were not happy.
Yeah but they are not the real fans Tam blah blah blah
Difficult to see what Nuno can do differently at the moment. Fact is that when we play a more expansive style and commit bodies forward, we get beat. Every. Single. Time.
We don’t have any top class defenders that can achieve clean sheets without packing out our penalty area, and making it difficult for the opposition to break us down.
We achieved results in October and November playing the exact same way as we’ve played recently, so it’s got nothing to do with our injury’s to key strikers. Nuno is damned if he does or damned if he doesn’t, our squad is really weak in all departments and needs huge investment to make top eight.
So (without an injection of £150m) for me we’ve got two stark choices, more of the same and mid table, or easy on the eye and relegation.
Can’t wait to get back inside the grounds again. As oldgold says the vast majority there are supportive of the team and are savvy enough to understand the situation we are in. There’ll be great enthusiasm when we next get a full house at Molineux and I think as much as anything that will be to be with thousands that love football rather than the depressing moan fests we see online of which the match threads on here are an extreme example. Nuno has said all along that he and the players miss the fans. I can assure him the fans miss the fans too
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posted 1 minute ago
Can’t wait to get back inside the grounds again. As oldgold says the vast majority there are supportive of the team and are savvy enough to understand the situation we are in. There’ll be great enthusiasm when we next get a full house at Molineux and I think as much as anything that will be to be with thousands that love football rather than the depressing moan fests we see online of which the match threads on here are an extreme example. Nuno has said all along that he and the players miss the fans. I can assure him the fans miss the fans too
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Agreed.
Not a difficult day for our defence yesterday but I thought they all played well and showed again they are more suited to the 343 set up. Semedo the pick I think and him and Ait Nouri are much better as wing backs than full backs. Going forward we were as tepid as you would expect without Neves, Neto and Raul. No surprise that it was Traore who provided the match winning moment. Pleased for Jose to get the goal
best to stay clear of matchday threads
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 23 minutes ago
Not a difficult day for our defence yesterday but I thought they all played well and showed again they are more suited to the 343 set up. Semedo the pick I think and him and Ait Nouri are much better as wing backs than full backs. Going forward we were as tepid as you would expect without Neves, Neto and Raul. No surprise that it was Traore who provided the match winning moment. Pleased for Jose to get the goal
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I thought Sheffield United put us under real pressure, and but for some good saves from Rui and last ditch blocks from the defenders, they could have scored 3 or 4.
Out of interest, can you give an example of a match this season where we haven’t been tepid and cautious even with Neves, Neto and Raul?
comment by Cinciwolf---A top 20 brand in world football (U11551)
posted about 9 hours ago
Yeah but they are not the real fans Tam blah blah blah
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Of definitely. Everyone who posts online just doesn't love football.
comment by TheBlackCountry (U22512)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 23 minutes ago
Not a difficult day for our defence yesterday but I thought they all played well and showed again they are more suited to the 343 set up. Semedo the pick I think and him and Ait Nouri are much better as wing backs than full backs. Going forward we were as tepid as you would expect without Neves, Neto and Raul. No surprise that it was Traore who provided the match winning moment. Pleased for Jose to get the goal
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I thought Sheffield United put us under real pressure, and but for some good saves from Rui and last ditch blocks from the defenders, they could have scored 3 or 4.
Out of interest, can you give an example of a match this season where we haven’t been tepid and cautious even with Neves, Neto and Raul?
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I agree that Sheffield United could have scored 2 or 3 last night. In fact they probably should have scored in the moment before we countered and scored our goal.
The fact they didn't shows why they are where they are.
comment by TheBlackCountry (U22512)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 23 minutes ago
Not a difficult day for our defence yesterday but I thought they all played well and showed again they are more suited to the 343 set up. Semedo the pick I think and him and Ait Nouri are much better as wing backs than full backs. Going forward we were as tepid as you would expect without Neves, Neto and Raul. No surprise that it was Traore who provided the match winning moment. Pleased for Jose to get the goal
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I thought Sheffield United put us under real pressure, and but for some good saves from Rui and last ditch blocks from the defenders, they could have scored 3 or 4.
Out of interest, can you give an example of a match this season where we haven’t been tepid and cautious even with Neves, Neto and Raul?
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Sheffield have little quality in attack and although they got into some good positions I never thought they were likely to score. I don’t think they would have scored 3 or 4 if the game had carried on to next week.
There have been plenty of games I’ve enjoyed this season and where we have been far from tepid in attack. The home and away games against Arsenal, home to Palace, away to Southampton, home to Liverpool are games that come to mind
Out of interest, can you give an example of a match this season where we haven’t been tepid and cautious even with Neves, Neto and Raul?
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arsenal away
comment by Wolfgang (U8869)
posted 8 minutes ago
Out of interest, can you give an example of a match this season where we haven’t been tepid and cautious even with Neves, Neto and Raul?
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arsenal away
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So when we play 4 at the back?
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about 3 hours ago
comment by Cinciwolf---A top 20 brand in world football (U11551)
posted about 9 hours ago
Yeah but they are not the real fans Tam blah blah blah
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Of definitely. Everyone who posts online just doesn't love football.
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more hyperbolics
comment by Wolfgang (U8869)
posted about an hour ago
you are joking ?
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We played 4 at the back against Arsenal.
That us the game you quoted as being a game we weren't tepid and cautious.
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 4 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by TheBlackCountry (U22512)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 23 minutes ago
Not a difficult day for our defence yesterday but I thought they all played well and showed again they are more suited to the 343 set up. Semedo the pick I think and him and Ait Nouri are much better as wing backs than full backs. Going forward we were as tepid as you would expect without Neves, Neto and Raul. No surprise that it was Traore who provided the match winning moment. Pleased for Jose to get the goal
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I thought Sheffield United put us under real pressure, and but for some good saves from Rui and last ditch blocks from the defenders, they could have scored 3 or 4.
Out of interest, can you give an example of a match this season where we haven’t been tepid and cautious even with Neves, Neto and Raul?
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Sheffield have little quality in attack and although they got into some good positions I never thought they were likely to score. I don’t think they would have scored 3 or 4 if the game had carried on to next week.
There have been plenty of games I’ve enjoyed this season and where we have been far from tepid in attack. The home and away games against Arsenal, home to Palace, away to Southampton, home to Liverpool are games that come to mind
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So four at the back in one of those, against ten then nine men in another. Palace home was four at the back as well.
Just don't understand why people can't be honest. We may have won the last two games but we were absolutely awful in both against two truly dreadful sides. Man for man we are infinitely better than both sides but a neutral with no idea of the league table would have thought we were the ones in the relegation spots both times.
I think most of our performers since last seasons restart have lacked the intensity of the previous 2½ seasons but since the injury to Raul I think we became even more cautious. Since José joined I think there's been an improvement, the last couple of months haven't been quite as dire as that November to January period.
No coincidence either that the most insipid of the performances brought our worst run of results.
We can argue all we want but ultimately Nuno has also criticised our lack of cutting edge and wants to change it.
I'm not sure about infinitely better man for man cinci, you take out Jimenez, Neto, Neves and Jonny and it evens things up a fair bit. Boly v Fulham too.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about 2 hours ago
comment by Wolfgang (U8869)
posted about an hour ago
you are joking ?
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We played 4 at the back against Arsenal.
That us the game you quoted as being a game we weren't tepid and cautious.
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i thought your point was that we are dull boring
and your point is
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posted on 18/4/21
I think the dynamic will be different next season, as I think we will look to invest in the summer to allow a more progressive style of play.
If we have a poor summer though and continue being dull, I think there will be restlessness amongst some of the supporters. I have been at Molineux plenty of times when there have been boos at half time, so whether you think it is a minority or not; it is likely to happen as people get frustrated. I think it might have happened tonight had fans been in the stadium.
posted on 18/4/21
Don't think there is any doubt that fans would have been booing this season given the awful displays.
Also if we are dishing up this football next season after a positive summer then Nuno will be out of a job, Fosun will not sit back idly watching rubbish like that.
posted on 18/4/21
You only need to read the comments at half time on social media to see what fans thought. The majority were not happy.
posted on 18/4/21
Yeah but they are not the real fans Tam blah blah blah
posted on 18/4/21
Difficult to see what Nuno can do differently at the moment. Fact is that when we play a more expansive style and commit bodies forward, we get beat. Every. Single. Time.
We don’t have any top class defenders that can achieve clean sheets without packing out our penalty area, and making it difficult for the opposition to break us down.
We achieved results in October and November playing the exact same way as we’ve played recently, so it’s got nothing to do with our injury’s to key strikers. Nuno is damned if he does or damned if he doesn’t, our squad is really weak in all departments and needs huge investment to make top eight.
So (without an injection of £150m) for me we’ve got two stark choices, more of the same and mid table, or easy on the eye and relegation.
posted on 18/4/21
Can’t wait to get back inside the grounds again. As oldgold says the vast majority there are supportive of the team and are savvy enough to understand the situation we are in. There’ll be great enthusiasm when we next get a full house at Molineux and I think as much as anything that will be to be with thousands that love football rather than the depressing moan fests we see online of which the match threads on here are an extreme example. Nuno has said all along that he and the players miss the fans. I can assure him the fans miss the fans too
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 1 minute ago
Can’t wait to get back inside the grounds again. As oldgold says the vast majority there are supportive of the team and are savvy enough to understand the situation we are in. There’ll be great enthusiasm when we next get a full house at Molineux and I think as much as anything that will be to be with thousands that love football rather than the depressing moan fests we see online of which the match threads on here are an extreme example. Nuno has said all along that he and the players miss the fans. I can assure him the fans miss the fans too
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Agreed.
posted on 18/4/21
Not a difficult day for our defence yesterday but I thought they all played well and showed again they are more suited to the 343 set up. Semedo the pick I think and him and Ait Nouri are much better as wing backs than full backs. Going forward we were as tepid as you would expect without Neves, Neto and Raul. No surprise that it was Traore who provided the match winning moment. Pleased for Jose to get the goal
posted on 18/4/21
best to stay clear of matchday threads
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 23 minutes ago
Not a difficult day for our defence yesterday but I thought they all played well and showed again they are more suited to the 343 set up. Semedo the pick I think and him and Ait Nouri are much better as wing backs than full backs. Going forward we were as tepid as you would expect without Neves, Neto and Raul. No surprise that it was Traore who provided the match winning moment. Pleased for Jose to get the goal
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I thought Sheffield United put us under real pressure, and but for some good saves from Rui and last ditch blocks from the defenders, they could have scored 3 or 4.
Out of interest, can you give an example of a match this season where we haven’t been tepid and cautious even with Neves, Neto and Raul?
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Cinciwolf---A top 20 brand in world football (U11551)
posted about 9 hours ago
Yeah but they are not the real fans Tam blah blah blah
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Of definitely. Everyone who posts online just doesn't love football.
posted on 18/4/21
comment by TheBlackCountry (U22512)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 23 minutes ago
Not a difficult day for our defence yesterday but I thought they all played well and showed again they are more suited to the 343 set up. Semedo the pick I think and him and Ait Nouri are much better as wing backs than full backs. Going forward we were as tepid as you would expect without Neves, Neto and Raul. No surprise that it was Traore who provided the match winning moment. Pleased for Jose to get the goal
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I thought Sheffield United put us under real pressure, and but for some good saves from Rui and last ditch blocks from the defenders, they could have scored 3 or 4.
Out of interest, can you give an example of a match this season where we haven’t been tepid and cautious even with Neves, Neto and Raul?
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I agree that Sheffield United could have scored 2 or 3 last night. In fact they probably should have scored in the moment before we countered and scored our goal.
The fact they didn't shows why they are where they are.
posted on 18/4/21
comment by TheBlackCountry (U22512)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 23 minutes ago
Not a difficult day for our defence yesterday but I thought they all played well and showed again they are more suited to the 343 set up. Semedo the pick I think and him and Ait Nouri are much better as wing backs than full backs. Going forward we were as tepid as you would expect without Neves, Neto and Raul. No surprise that it was Traore who provided the match winning moment. Pleased for Jose to get the goal
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I thought Sheffield United put us under real pressure, and but for some good saves from Rui and last ditch blocks from the defenders, they could have scored 3 or 4.
Out of interest, can you give an example of a match this season where we haven’t been tepid and cautious even with Neves, Neto and Raul?
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Sheffield have little quality in attack and although they got into some good positions I never thought they were likely to score. I don’t think they would have scored 3 or 4 if the game had carried on to next week.
There have been plenty of games I’ve enjoyed this season and where we have been far from tepid in attack. The home and away games against Arsenal, home to Palace, away to Southampton, home to Liverpool are games that come to mind
posted on 18/4/21
Out of interest, can you give an example of a match this season where we haven’t been tepid and cautious even with Neves, Neto and Raul?
......................
arsenal away
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Wolfgang (U8869)
posted 8 minutes ago
Out of interest, can you give an example of a match this season where we haven’t been tepid and cautious even with Neves, Neto and Raul?
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arsenal away
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So when we play 4 at the back?
posted on 18/4/21
you are joking ?
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about 3 hours ago
comment by Cinciwolf---A top 20 brand in world football (U11551)
posted about 9 hours ago
Yeah but they are not the real fans Tam blah blah blah
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Of definitely. Everyone who posts online just doesn't love football.
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more hyperbolics
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Wolfgang (U8869)
posted about an hour ago
you are joking ?
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We played 4 at the back against Arsenal.
That us the game you quoted as being a game we weren't tepid and cautious.
posted on 18/4/21
Yeah, fatso.
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 4 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by TheBlackCountry (U22512)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 23 minutes ago
Not a difficult day for our defence yesterday but I thought they all played well and showed again they are more suited to the 343 set up. Semedo the pick I think and him and Ait Nouri are much better as wing backs than full backs. Going forward we were as tepid as you would expect without Neves, Neto and Raul. No surprise that it was Traore who provided the match winning moment. Pleased for Jose to get the goal
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I thought Sheffield United put us under real pressure, and but for some good saves from Rui and last ditch blocks from the defenders, they could have scored 3 or 4.
Out of interest, can you give an example of a match this season where we haven’t been tepid and cautious even with Neves, Neto and Raul?
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Sheffield have little quality in attack and although they got into some good positions I never thought they were likely to score. I don’t think they would have scored 3 or 4 if the game had carried on to next week.
There have been plenty of games I’ve enjoyed this season and where we have been far from tepid in attack. The home and away games against Arsenal, home to Palace, away to Southampton, home to Liverpool are games that come to mind
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So four at the back in one of those, against ten then nine men in another. Palace home was four at the back as well.
posted on 18/4/21
Just don't understand why people can't be honest. We may have won the last two games but we were absolutely awful in both against two truly dreadful sides. Man for man we are infinitely better than both sides but a neutral with no idea of the league table would have thought we were the ones in the relegation spots both times.
posted on 18/4/21
I think most of our performers since last seasons restart have lacked the intensity of the previous 2½ seasons but since the injury to Raul I think we became even more cautious. Since José joined I think there's been an improvement, the last couple of months haven't been quite as dire as that November to January period.
No coincidence either that the most insipid of the performances brought our worst run of results.
posted on 18/4/21
We can argue all we want but ultimately Nuno has also criticised our lack of cutting edge and wants to change it.
posted on 18/4/21
I'm not sure about infinitely better man for man cinci, you take out Jimenez, Neto, Neves and Jonny and it evens things up a fair bit. Boly v Fulham too.
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted about 2 hours ago
comment by Wolfgang (U8869)
posted about an hour ago
you are joking ?
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We played 4 at the back against Arsenal.
That us the game you quoted as being a game we weren't tepid and cautious.
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i thought your point was that we are dull boring
and your point is
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