comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
I dislike Liverpool more than I do City also. By a fair margin too I'd admit. I have way more respect for them and their achievements though despite hating them to my very inner core.
PSG n City are the worst thing to happen to football in the last 20 years although VAR ain't too far behind.
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This sanctimony is so phoney. There is nothing morally superior about United or Liverpool compared to City. Money is the only morality in football and Utd and Liverpool had more of it than anyone for decades. There was no realistic way for a club like City to compete without wealthy owners. No way to do it "the right way" when the former "top 4" piggybacking off CL money and the prestige of the CL pepertuated themselves in the top 4 and able to attract all the top players to themselves. I was brainwashed by Wenger's phoney moralizing about "financial doping" from City and co and used to spout this crap about clubs "doing it the right way", but I've come to realize it's just a bunch of butthurt big clubs with systemic privileges bitter that smaller clubs have crashed their party. Imagine perpetuating yourself around the top of English football for decades acquiring unassailable privileges over smaller clubs and thinking it's something you somehow deserve. I personally find that warped.
comment by Sky-blue (U22529)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 7 minutes ago
I dislike Liverpool more than I do City also. By a fair margin too I'd admit. I have way more respect for them and their achievements though despite hating them to my very inner core.
PSG n City are the worst thing to happen to football in the last 20 years although VAR ain't too far behind.
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You would think us not wining the Champions league would make you feel better. Soon we will start signing your players then you will really hate us
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Nothing lasts forever. Your fall will be glorious.
If the Sheikh starts flexing his financial musck again then Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool should come out of the shared TV deal.
We will see who's laughing then. 😂
People have this total idealistic way of how a club should go about it’s business to achieve success and respect.
Sorry, you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette.
The school of SAF teaches us, ‘Adapt or Die’..
I’m not gonna be spending my time moaning about the good fortune that landed on Chelsea’s and Man City’s lap.
It is what it is...
at the end of the day, it’s 11 v 11. But many seemed defeated before a ball has been kicked.
Just turn up on the day and fight.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 54 minutes ago
Tribalism is a funny one, seeing all the posts about the end of the quadruple just looked like a bunch of fans who are scared of something. Did I miss something becasue I hadn't really been aware of City fans going on about winning the quadruple, just stuff in the media which we all know should never be taken seriously. City were very fortuate to get their new owners in terms of the wealth it's brought in and I'm sure they won't be the last, people just need to let it go and deal with it.
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Your last sentence is spot on.
If there hadn't been issues over the development of Goodison Park , our owners would have been running Everton.
If City did "win the lottery " it was very much like 5 numbers and the bonus ball
shinj with a few truth bombs on a sunday morning, good stuff.
never quite understood why we as united fans should be self-righteous because our money comes from having an official tractor sponsor rather than from our owners, don't really see why the sources of funds is important, only the uses of them. and boy is it boring when every debate about city just becomes a tirade of "look how much you've spent/go spend some more etc etc etc"
as stringer says, you either get on and compete - as we did vs chelsea in the 2000s, as we did vs city in the early 2010s, and as we have failed to do since then - or you don't, but whining about city's wealth won't get us anywhere.
and i assume that fans of other clubs whining about it would be delighted for united to win the PL this season - because it's a victory for a "proper" club - just as they'd have been delighted for us in 2018, or 2012, or when we twice finished 2nd to chelsea, or even losing out to blackburn.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
Tribal support for a football club is a natural haven for hypocrisy. We're not immune to it and I think it's healthy to point that out from time to time.
I don't think our owners (particularly Louis Edwards) have been saints. That said, I don't believe our club at any point in its history has ever been elevated way beyond its 'natural' ceiling by massive external investment far beyond the capacities of what it could organically generate based on its footballing endeavours and the size of the community that supported it.
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But why are United so well supported worldwide? Up until the start of the 90s they couldn't hold a candle to the likes of Liverpool in terms of honours, yet all my life (born 79) they've always been a pretty big deal. Was it something to do with the air disaster, or players like Charlton, Law and Best in the 60s? I've never really been able to fathom why a club that didn't really make a dent in the worldwide footballing landscape compared to many others had so many supporters in places like China and Thailand.
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United's marketing is top notch tbh.
I wouldn't say it's ethical to convince people in developing countries that buying United merch is preferable to having safe drinking water but marketing has never been ethical.
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Biggest crowds in the country while in the second division in the 70s was definitely down to the marketing prowess of the PLC in the 1990s.
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Odd comment, City alawys had the biggest crowds on their forays into the lower divisions.
United boast about getting 60,000 against Sunderland in Div.2 hardly a mention of the 21,000 there against Charlton in the same season.
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Here are the average attendances for the 1973-4 season.
https://www.worldfootball.net/attendance/eng-premier-league-1973-1974/1/
You can prove anything with facts.
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So you averaged 8,000 empty seats per game.
Poor for a club that had won the European Cup just a few years previously
Sanctimony
"the action or practice of acting as if one were morally superior to other people."
people posting about city oil money might be acting sanctimonious but this article by OP also reeks of sanctimony.
It's all fun. Just like those people who swear we got all those titles under Fergie because refs were bent
Outside the internet, they dont believe that
comment by HarlequinHebdo (U16981)
posted 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
A very good article,must be that your fellow supporters are still at church !
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comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 58 minutes ago
shinj with a few truth bombs on a sunday morning, good stuff.
never quite understood why we as united fans should be self-righteous because our money comes from having an official tractor sponsor rather than from our owners, don't really see why the sources of funds is important, only the uses of them. and boy is it boring when every debate about city just becomes a tirade of "look how much you've spent/go spend some more etc etc etc"
as stringer says, you either get on and compete - as we did vs chelsea in the 2000s, as we did vs city in the early 2010s, and as we have failed to do since then - or you don't, but whining about city's wealth won't get us anywhere.
and i assume that fans of other clubs whining about it would be delighted for united to win the PL this season - because it's a victory for a "proper" club - just as they'd have been delighted for us in 2018, or 2012, or when we twice finished 2nd to chelsea, or even losing out to blackburn.
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Can’t imagine anyone makes millions without some kind of corruption.
Not saying they’re all “people traffickers” or whatever other unsubstantiated claims are made against City’s owners, but they’re all part of the same rat-race.
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 33 minutes ago
Sanctimony
"the action or practice of acting as if one were morally superior to other people."
people posting about city oil money might be acting sanctimonious but this article by OP also reeks of sanctimony.
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Haha I almost wrote ‘touché’, but then I read my article again.
Can you elaborate on where I have acted “morally superior” to others?
If by thinking something different is being morally superior, then sign me up to church of sanctimony.
I don’t think I’m morally better than any of the people who criticise City for spending money, I just think they’re a bit short-sighted, hypocritical and lack self-awareness.
Morality, I believe, is a different plain.
Part of the same rat race?
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 15 seconds ago
Part of the same rat race?
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Yes.
The Rothchilds control United but there’s a complete lack of outrage
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 15 seconds ago
Part of the same rat race?
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Yes.
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Ah, you are pointing out the lack of need for the superfluous word “same” in that sentence?
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Sky-blue (U22529)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 7 minutes ago
I dislike Liverpool more than I do City also. By a fair margin too I'd admit. I have way more respect for them and their achievements though despite hating them to my very inner core.
PSG n City are the worst thing to happen to football in the last 20 years although VAR ain't too far behind.
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You would think us not wining the Champions league would make you feel better. Soon we will start signing your players then you will really hate us
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Nothing lasts forever. Your fall will be glorious.
If the Sheikh starts flexing his financial musck again then Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool should come out of the shared TV deal.
We will see who's laughing then. 😂
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It’s hilarious how much time and energy you spend on telling us all how not bothered by City you are.
SE85 has written several books on why City mean nothing to him.
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Sky-blue (U22529)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 7 minutes ago
I dislike Liverpool more than I do City also. By a fair margin too I'd admit. I have way more respect for them and their achievements though despite hating them to my very inner core.
PSG n City are the worst thing to happen to football in the last 20 years although VAR ain't too far behind.
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You would think us not wining the Champions league would make you feel better. Soon we will start signing your players then you will really hate us
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Nothing lasts forever. Your fall will be glorious.
If the Sheikh starts flexing his financial musck again then Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool should come out of the shared TV deal.
We will see who's laughing then. 😂
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It’s hilarious how much time and energy you spend on telling us all how not bothered by City you are.
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If it didn't bother you like you all claim you wouldn't all have a fussy fit and come launching in with every one of my jibes.
Like clockwork you're here arguing back. Why? Because it does bother you being labelled a plastic oil club or else why bother responding?
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 15 seconds ago
Part of the same rat race?
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Yes.
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Ah, you are pointing out the lack of need for the superfluous word “same” in that sentence?
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I’m pointing out that forms of ‘possibly corrupt’ business practices are hardly comparable to the practices that take place in the UAE. Unless I misunderstood you of course?
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
Tribal support for a football club is a natural haven for hypocrisy. We're not immune to it and I think it's healthy to point that out from time to time.
I don't think our owners (particularly Louis Edwards) have been saints. That said, I don't believe our club at any point in its history has ever been elevated way beyond its 'natural' ceiling by massive external investment far beyond the capacities of what it could organically generate based on its footballing endeavours and the size of the community that supported it.
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But why are United so well supported worldwide? Up until the start of the 90s they couldn't hold a candle to the likes of Liverpool in terms of honours, yet all my life (born 79) they've always been a pretty big deal. Was it something to do with the air disaster, or players like Charlton, Law and Best in the 60s? I've never really been able to fathom why a club that didn't really make a dent in the worldwide footballing landscape compared to many others had so many supporters in places like China and Thailand.
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United's marketing is top notch tbh.
I wouldn't say it's ethical to convince people in developing countries that buying United merch is preferable to having safe drinking water but marketing has never been ethical.
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Biggest crowds in the country while in the second division in the 70s was definitely down to the marketing prowess of the PLC in the 1990s.
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Odd comment, City alawys had the biggest crowds on their forays into the lower divisions.
United boast about getting 60,000 against Sunderland in Div.2 hardly a mention of the 21,000 there against Charlton in the same season.
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Here are the average attendances for the 1973-4 season.
https://www.worldfootball.net/attendance/eng-premier-league-1973-1974/1/
You can prove anything with facts.
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So you averaged 8,000 empty seats per game.
Poor for a club that had won the European Cup just a few years previously
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When we were in second tier and you were in the midst of a decade that the Wikipedia entry on your club describes as 'The Glory Years' we were averaging 12k more supporters per match and I suspect fewer empty seats (though I don't know for sure what the capacity of Maine Road was in the 70s).
None of this matters of course. The most honest fans who seem to love City on a deeper level, like Melton, embrace the history and the memories of being a middle-sized historic club with all the ups and downs associated with that. The fact that United has been so exceptionally well supported and therefore wealthy and therefore enjoyed sustained success that City is for the first time encountering is the reason we have so many spoilt tw@ts in our part of the forum. You'll soon enough have plenty of those kinds of followers, with no real sense of your club's rich history, no sense of a shared experience informed by hurt as well as joy, and I think you'll find you fit in well with them.
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Sky-blue (U22529)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 7 minutes ago
I dislike Liverpool more than I do City also. By a fair margin too I'd admit. I have way more respect for them and their achievements though despite hating them to my very inner core.
PSG n City are the worst thing to happen to football in the last 20 years although VAR ain't too far behind.
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You would think us not wining the Champions league would make you feel better. Soon we will start signing your players then you will really hate us
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Nothing lasts forever. Your fall will be glorious.
If the Sheikh starts flexing his financial musck again then Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool should come out of the shared TV deal.
We will see who's laughing then. 😂
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It’s hilarious how much time and energy you spend on telling us all how not bothered by City you are.
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If it didn't bother you like you all claim you wouldn't all have a fussy fit and come launching in with every one of my jibes.
Like clockwork you're here arguing back. Why? Because it does bother you being labelled a plastic oil club or else why bother responding?
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“Arguing back” 😂
Come back when you ‘earned’ your own house stretty 🤣
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 1 minute ago
Come back when you ‘earned’ your own house stretty 🤣
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???
We borrowed from our dads rather than the banks. I still pay a mortgage as such I just don't pay interest.
But yeah that's just the same thing isn't it? My son will also likely not having to get mortgaged to the eyeballs either. That's the plan anyway.
You lot can't help it can you? You jump at every comment. Why? Because you hate it. 😂
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 18 minutes ago
SE85 has written several books on why City mean nothing to him.
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You rise to every jibe Boris. Why bother?
Make mine a treble.
Sign in if you want to comment
Sanctimony...
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posted on 18/4/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
I dislike Liverpool more than I do City also. By a fair margin too I'd admit. I have way more respect for them and their achievements though despite hating them to my very inner core.
PSG n City are the worst thing to happen to football in the last 20 years although VAR ain't too far behind.
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This sanctimony is so phoney. There is nothing morally superior about United or Liverpool compared to City. Money is the only morality in football and Utd and Liverpool had more of it than anyone for decades. There was no realistic way for a club like City to compete without wealthy owners. No way to do it "the right way" when the former "top 4" piggybacking off CL money and the prestige of the CL pepertuated themselves in the top 4 and able to attract all the top players to themselves. I was brainwashed by Wenger's phoney moralizing about "financial doping" from City and co and used to spout this crap about clubs "doing it the right way", but I've come to realize it's just a bunch of butthurt big clubs with systemic privileges bitter that smaller clubs have crashed their party. Imagine perpetuating yourself around the top of English football for decades acquiring unassailable privileges over smaller clubs and thinking it's something you somehow deserve. I personally find that warped.
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Sky-blue (U22529)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 7 minutes ago
I dislike Liverpool more than I do City also. By a fair margin too I'd admit. I have way more respect for them and their achievements though despite hating them to my very inner core.
PSG n City are the worst thing to happen to football in the last 20 years although VAR ain't too far behind.
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You would think us not wining the Champions league would make you feel better. Soon we will start signing your players then you will really hate us
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nothing lasts forever. Your fall will be glorious.
If the Sheikh starts flexing his financial musck again then Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool should come out of the shared TV deal.
We will see who's laughing then. 😂
posted on 18/4/21
People have this total idealistic way of how a club should go about it’s business to achieve success and respect.
Sorry, you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette.
The school of SAF teaches us, ‘Adapt or Die’..
I’m not gonna be spending my time moaning about the good fortune that landed on Chelsea’s and Man City’s lap.
It is what it is...
at the end of the day, it’s 11 v 11. But many seemed defeated before a ball has been kicked.
Just turn up on the day and fight.
posted on 18/4/21
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 54 minutes ago
Tribalism is a funny one, seeing all the posts about the end of the quadruple just looked like a bunch of fans who are scared of something. Did I miss something becasue I hadn't really been aware of City fans going on about winning the quadruple, just stuff in the media which we all know should never be taken seriously. City were very fortuate to get their new owners in terms of the wealth it's brought in and I'm sure they won't be the last, people just need to let it go and deal with it.
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Your last sentence is spot on.
If there hadn't been issues over the development of Goodison Park , our owners would have been running Everton.
If City did "win the lottery " it was very much like 5 numbers and the bonus ball
posted on 18/4/21
shinj with a few truth bombs on a sunday morning, good stuff.
never quite understood why we as united fans should be self-righteous because our money comes from having an official tractor sponsor rather than from our owners, don't really see why the sources of funds is important, only the uses of them. and boy is it boring when every debate about city just becomes a tirade of "look how much you've spent/go spend some more etc etc etc"
as stringer says, you either get on and compete - as we did vs chelsea in the 2000s, as we did vs city in the early 2010s, and as we have failed to do since then - or you don't, but whining about city's wealth won't get us anywhere.
and i assume that fans of other clubs whining about it would be delighted for united to win the PL this season - because it's a victory for a "proper" club - just as they'd have been delighted for us in 2018, or 2012, or when we twice finished 2nd to chelsea, or even losing out to blackburn.
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
Tribal support for a football club is a natural haven for hypocrisy. We're not immune to it and I think it's healthy to point that out from time to time.
I don't think our owners (particularly Louis Edwards) have been saints. That said, I don't believe our club at any point in its history has ever been elevated way beyond its 'natural' ceiling by massive external investment far beyond the capacities of what it could organically generate based on its footballing endeavours and the size of the community that supported it.
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But why are United so well supported worldwide? Up until the start of the 90s they couldn't hold a candle to the likes of Liverpool in terms of honours, yet all my life (born 79) they've always been a pretty big deal. Was it something to do with the air disaster, or players like Charlton, Law and Best in the 60s? I've never really been able to fathom why a club that didn't really make a dent in the worldwide footballing landscape compared to many others had so many supporters in places like China and Thailand.
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United's marketing is top notch tbh.
I wouldn't say it's ethical to convince people in developing countries that buying United merch is preferable to having safe drinking water but marketing has never been ethical.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Biggest crowds in the country while in the second division in the 70s was definitely down to the marketing prowess of the PLC in the 1990s.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Odd comment, City alawys had the biggest crowds on their forays into the lower divisions.
United boast about getting 60,000 against Sunderland in Div.2 hardly a mention of the 21,000 there against Charlton in the same season.
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Here are the average attendances for the 1973-4 season.
https://www.worldfootball.net/attendance/eng-premier-league-1973-1974/1/
You can prove anything with facts.
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So you averaged 8,000 empty seats per game.
Poor for a club that had won the European Cup just a few years previously
posted on 18/4/21
Sanctimony
"the action or practice of acting as if one were morally superior to other people."
people posting about city oil money might be acting sanctimonious but this article by OP also reeks of sanctimony.
posted on 18/4/21
It's all fun. Just like those people who swear we got all those titles under Fergie because refs were bent
Outside the internet, they dont believe that
posted on 18/4/21
comment by HarlequinHebdo (U16981)
posted 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
A very good article,must be that your fellow supporters are still at church !
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posted on 18/4/21
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 58 minutes ago
shinj with a few truth bombs on a sunday morning, good stuff.
never quite understood why we as united fans should be self-righteous because our money comes from having an official tractor sponsor rather than from our owners, don't really see why the sources of funds is important, only the uses of them. and boy is it boring when every debate about city just becomes a tirade of "look how much you've spent/go spend some more etc etc etc"
as stringer says, you either get on and compete - as we did vs chelsea in the 2000s, as we did vs city in the early 2010s, and as we have failed to do since then - or you don't, but whining about city's wealth won't get us anywhere.
and i assume that fans of other clubs whining about it would be delighted for united to win the PL this season - because it's a victory for a "proper" club - just as they'd have been delighted for us in 2018, or 2012, or when we twice finished 2nd to chelsea, or even losing out to blackburn.
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Can’t imagine anyone makes millions without some kind of corruption.
Not saying they’re all “people traffickers” or whatever other unsubstantiated claims are made against City’s owners, but they’re all part of the same rat-race.
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 33 minutes ago
Sanctimony
"the action or practice of acting as if one were morally superior to other people."
people posting about city oil money might be acting sanctimonious but this article by OP also reeks of sanctimony.
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Haha I almost wrote ‘touché’, but then I read my article again.
Can you elaborate on where I have acted “morally superior” to others?
If by thinking something different is being morally superior, then sign me up to church of sanctimony.
I don’t think I’m morally better than any of the people who criticise City for spending money, I just think they’re a bit short-sighted, hypocritical and lack self-awareness.
Morality, I believe, is a different plain.
posted on 18/4/21
Part of the same rat race?
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 15 seconds ago
Part of the same rat race?
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Yes.
posted on 18/4/21
The Rothchilds control United but there’s a complete lack of outrage
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 15 seconds ago
Part of the same rat race?
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Yes.
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Ah, you are pointing out the lack of need for the superfluous word “same” in that sentence?
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Sky-blue (U22529)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 7 minutes ago
I dislike Liverpool more than I do City also. By a fair margin too I'd admit. I have way more respect for them and their achievements though despite hating them to my very inner core.
PSG n City are the worst thing to happen to football in the last 20 years although VAR ain't too far behind.
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You would think us not wining the Champions league would make you feel better. Soon we will start signing your players then you will really hate us
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Nothing lasts forever. Your fall will be glorious.
If the Sheikh starts flexing his financial musck again then Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool should come out of the shared TV deal.
We will see who's laughing then. 😂
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It’s hilarious how much time and energy you spend on telling us all how not bothered by City you are.
posted on 18/4/21
SE85 has written several books on why City mean nothing to him.
posted on 18/4/21
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Sky-blue (U22529)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 7 minutes ago
I dislike Liverpool more than I do City also. By a fair margin too I'd admit. I have way more respect for them and their achievements though despite hating them to my very inner core.
PSG n City are the worst thing to happen to football in the last 20 years although VAR ain't too far behind.
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You would think us not wining the Champions league would make you feel better. Soon we will start signing your players then you will really hate us
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nothing lasts forever. Your fall will be glorious.
If the Sheikh starts flexing his financial musck again then Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool should come out of the shared TV deal.
We will see who's laughing then. 😂
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It’s hilarious how much time and energy you spend on telling us all how not bothered by City you are.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If it didn't bother you like you all claim you wouldn't all have a fussy fit and come launching in with every one of my jibes.
Like clockwork you're here arguing back. Why? Because it does bother you being labelled a plastic oil club or else why bother responding?
posted on 18/4/21
Hissy fit*
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 15 seconds ago
Part of the same rat race?
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Yes.
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Ah, you are pointing out the lack of need for the superfluous word “same” in that sentence?
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I’m pointing out that forms of ‘possibly corrupt’ business practices are hardly comparable to the practices that take place in the UAE. Unless I misunderstood you of course?
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
Tribal support for a football club is a natural haven for hypocrisy. We're not immune to it and I think it's healthy to point that out from time to time.
I don't think our owners (particularly Louis Edwards) have been saints. That said, I don't believe our club at any point in its history has ever been elevated way beyond its 'natural' ceiling by massive external investment far beyond the capacities of what it could organically generate based on its footballing endeavours and the size of the community that supported it.
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But why are United so well supported worldwide? Up until the start of the 90s they couldn't hold a candle to the likes of Liverpool in terms of honours, yet all my life (born 79) they've always been a pretty big deal. Was it something to do with the air disaster, or players like Charlton, Law and Best in the 60s? I've never really been able to fathom why a club that didn't really make a dent in the worldwide footballing landscape compared to many others had so many supporters in places like China and Thailand.
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United's marketing is top notch tbh.
I wouldn't say it's ethical to convince people in developing countries that buying United merch is preferable to having safe drinking water but marketing has never been ethical.
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Biggest crowds in the country while in the second division in the 70s was definitely down to the marketing prowess of the PLC in the 1990s.
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Odd comment, City alawys had the biggest crowds on their forays into the lower divisions.
United boast about getting 60,000 against Sunderland in Div.2 hardly a mention of the 21,000 there against Charlton in the same season.
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Here are the average attendances for the 1973-4 season.
https://www.worldfootball.net/attendance/eng-premier-league-1973-1974/1/
You can prove anything with facts.
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So you averaged 8,000 empty seats per game.
Poor for a club that had won the European Cup just a few years previously
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When we were in second tier and you were in the midst of a decade that the Wikipedia entry on your club describes as 'The Glory Years' we were averaging 12k more supporters per match and I suspect fewer empty seats (though I don't know for sure what the capacity of Maine Road was in the 70s).
None of this matters of course. The most honest fans who seem to love City on a deeper level, like Melton, embrace the history and the memories of being a middle-sized historic club with all the ups and downs associated with that. The fact that United has been so exceptionally well supported and therefore wealthy and therefore enjoyed sustained success that City is for the first time encountering is the reason we have so many spoilt tw@ts in our part of the forum. You'll soon enough have plenty of those kinds of followers, with no real sense of your club's rich history, no sense of a shared experience informed by hurt as well as joy, and I think you'll find you fit in well with them.
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Sky-blue (U22529)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 7 minutes ago
I dislike Liverpool more than I do City also. By a fair margin too I'd admit. I have way more respect for them and their achievements though despite hating them to my very inner core.
PSG n City are the worst thing to happen to football in the last 20 years although VAR ain't too far behind.
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You would think us not wining the Champions league would make you feel better. Soon we will start signing your players then you will really hate us
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Nothing lasts forever. Your fall will be glorious.
If the Sheikh starts flexing his financial musck again then Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool should come out of the shared TV deal.
We will see who's laughing then. 😂
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It’s hilarious how much time and energy you spend on telling us all how not bothered by City you are.
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If it didn't bother you like you all claim you wouldn't all have a fussy fit and come launching in with every one of my jibes.
Like clockwork you're here arguing back. Why? Because it does bother you being labelled a plastic oil club or else why bother responding?
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“Arguing back” 😂
posted on 18/4/21
Come back when you ‘earned’ your own house stretty 🤣
posted on 18/4/21
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 1 minute ago
Come back when you ‘earned’ your own house stretty 🤣
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???
We borrowed from our dads rather than the banks. I still pay a mortgage as such I just don't pay interest.
But yeah that's just the same thing isn't it? My son will also likely not having to get mortgaged to the eyeballs either. That's the plan anyway.
You lot can't help it can you? You jump at every comment. Why? Because you hate it. 😂
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 18 minutes ago
SE85 has written several books on why City mean nothing to him.
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You rise to every jibe Boris. Why bother?
Make mine a treble.
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