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posted on 5/5/21

comment by Netan Sansara (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Netan Sansara (U1734)
posted 11 minutes ago
There have been countless top strikers who have led their team/country to trophies despite playing for relatively lesser teams than Spurs. Kane just doesn't seem to have it in him. This is despite being part of countless golden generations at Spurs.

You look at the likes of Falcao, Forlan, Milito, these kind of players who have dragged their teams to European and domestic success, despite not being the best teams.

All we see from Kane is excuses.
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One of the dumbest things I've read on here !
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It's what Barry does
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All of my comment was fact. Feel free to argue with the facts.
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you had me at "countless golden generations at Spurs". Couldnt read the rest through my tears of laughter

posted on 5/5/21

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 7 minutes ago
Hes a great player but lacks a winning mentality, he's not driven spurs on to win even a league Cup, goes missing in the biggest games and just isn't a proper leader. How's hes England captain over Henderson is a mystery.


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Caught some of the recent spurs behind the scenes documentary on Amazon and I have to say Kane didnt come across as any way inspirational in his pre match dressing room huddles.

Of course you can lead and inspire on the pitch but he didn't convey any great leadership off it looking at these behind the scenes snapshots.

posted on 5/5/21

comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 1 minute ago
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A lot will depend on how much Kane himself wants to move
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This will have an impact for sure and it will be interesting to see how Kane, a Spurs boy, one of our own, and thoroughly nice chap, approaches the whole situation. I cannot image him acting like Berbatov or Modric or going on strike. Levy will have to be very careful how he handles the situation.

I think most fans would not begrudge Kane a move but the expectation would be not to strengthen a rival and to gain a very substantial fee. I fully expect a full and frank agreement between Kane and Levy as no doubt Kane will want to further his career and Levy cannot really afford to say a blanket No, as that may cause upset.

posted on 5/5/21

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 2 hours, 17 minutes ago
Kane would improve any side in the world bar maybe Bayern. That says everything.
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except its a lie.

posted on 5/5/21

comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)

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Caught some of the recent spurs behind the scenes documentary on Amazon and I have to say Kane didnt come across as any way inspirational in his pre match dressing room huddles.
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absolute nonsense. churchill and henry v have nothing on this (even if they'd been allowed to swear):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JbS6CenfyY

posted on 5/5/21

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago

This is all well and good but if United come to Levy and say, "times have been tough and we've only got £60m to spend on Kane" then Levy will simply laugh in their faces.

Kane is an asset worth a huge amount to Spurs. While clubs may be in some choppy financial waters, under selling a key asset exacerbates the problem rather than helping it.

Clubs who need to sell may be more willing to lower prices. Dortmund may be run like this, but it's not part of Spurs' business model.
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You seem to have missed my conclusion:

"It's pure conjecture, but I suspect that the overall result will be conservatism in the marketplace. Buyers will be very cautious about overspending. Sellers will be loathe to let players go significantly more cheaply than a year or two ago. It could well be that Spurs would need £150 million to offset the loss of Kane, but at the same time United couldn't afford to spend more than £60 million to buy an elite striker, and the end result is that there's no deal to be done."

I'm not saying that Levy will have to adjust his valuation down. I'm saying it's quite conceivable that the gap between what United could afford and what Spurs would need can't be bridged, and Kane stays where he is.

But it's pure speculation. I plucked arbitrary numbers. I have no idea about the financial projections of the two clubs, or how they calculate the value that Kane could generate over the coming years.

We could see a completely different scenario. If (a big if) clubs are contemplating a permanent (or prolonged) downsizing of the industry, it could be that they are all facing a big problem with assets they've paid too much for and are paying too much in wages. That could have an impact on how happy they are to get highly paid players off their books, in order to replace them with more realistically valued players. Hypothetically speaking, this could both increase Spurs' willingness to sell and decrease United's interest in buying an established and expensive star rather than an upcoming, cheaper one. If they could snaffle a Haaland-while-at-Red-Bull rather than a Dortmund-Haaland or a Kane, that would be an attractive option right now. Especially if Cavani is staying for another season. And depending on Spurs' financial projections, who knows whether this could look like an attractive time to make a transfer profit and a big drop in wages while replacing a star player with a hugely promising young striker like Slavia Prague's Abdallah Sima.

posted on 5/5/21

This is a player currently top of both the scoring and assists chart in the Prem. That's just unheard of. To be beating the likes of De Bruyne and Fernandes for that second chart is mind boggling.

He's also not, as others have pointed out, as injury prone as first appears. Put him in a truly top side and he'd get the odd rest here and there he'd require to stop the fatigue that generally causes niggles, including anything with his ankle.

Then there's the fact that he's English which puts his price at a premium for the big clubs that could afford him over here. The English quota rule is very restricting for a lot of clubs so having a truly world class Englishmen amongst your squad adds further value.

I cannot for the life me understand why 6 people have voted for £60m. The good thing is, unless someone decides to treble that amount, Levy just won't sell him.

posted on 5/5/21

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 15 minutes ago
Hes a great player but lacks a winning mentality, he's not driven spurs on to win even a league Cup, goes missing in the biggest games and just isn't a proper leader. How's hes England captain over Henderson is a mystery.

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Wow, what a child-like understanding you have.

If you want to make such basic assessments, why should Henderson be captain when he does not even have the bottle to score in an England penalty shootout. Talk about going missing when his country needed him.

And no, i do not believe Henderson to be a serial bottler and he would be a worthy captain, but come on, show some more advanced thinking on this before typing such nonesense.

posted on 5/5/21

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 8 minutes ago

I think most fans would not begrudge Kane a move but the expectation would be not to strengthen a rival and to gain a very substantial fee.
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Don't sell him to West Ham then

posted on 5/5/21

"Kane is an asset worth a huge amount to Spurs."

Are we really looking at this from a business perspective here or is the heart talking here.

posted on 5/5/21

If we sell now, we sell in a nervous, conservative market. Despite the fact that he's got three years left on his contract, he's actually going to be worth more money in a years time with only two left. Buyer confidence will return assuming fans come flooding back and they'll be more relaxed about spending the big bucks. Absolutely no financial or sporting sense in selling him this summer, whether he wants to go or not.

posted on 5/5/21

comment by Netan Sansara (U1734)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Netan Sansara (U1734)
posted 11 minutes ago
There have been countless top strikers who have led their team/country to trophies despite playing for relatively lesser teams than Spurs. Kane just doesn't seem to have it in him. This is despite being part of countless golden generations at Spurs.

You look at the likes of Falcao, Forlan, Milito, these kind of players who have dragged their teams to European and domestic success, despite not being the best teams.

All we see from Kane is excuses.
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One of the dumbest things I've read on here !
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It's what Barry does
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All of my comment was fact. Feel free to argue with the facts.
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Why would anyone argue with a freak who has spent years acting as a sad WUM

posted on 5/5/21

comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)

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Caught some of the recent spurs behind the scenes documentary on Amazon and I have to say Kane didnt come across as any way inspirational in his pre match dressing room huddles.
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absolute nonsense. churchill and henry v have nothing on this (even if they'd been allowed to swear):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JbS6CenfyY
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comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 5/5/21

comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
Kane's injuries are blown out of proportion. I just looked and the lowest number of premier league games he has played over the last 7 seasons is 28. Averages around 33 PL games a season.

He's a top pro, completely dedicated to football and doesn't rely on pace, imo he's got another 4/5 years at this level, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's still getting 15+ a season in his mid 30s.

The only reason £150m is bad value is you could probably get Mbappe or Haaland for that.
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10 games, can easily be the difference between a title and top 4 for the clubs who’d be interested.
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Exactly, Spurs fans are complaining Kane goes missing every season due to injuries, but when he needs to be sold all of a sudden its not a big problem

posted on 5/5/21

The UTD medical team will soon sort out his injury issues

posted on 5/5/21

comment by Netan Sansara (U1734)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Netan Sansara (U1734)
posted 11 minutes ago
There have been countless top strikers who have led their team/country to trophies despite playing for relatively lesser teams than Spurs. Kane just doesn't seem to have it in him. This is despite being part of countless golden generations at Spurs.

You look at the likes of Falcao, Forlan, Milito, these kind of players who have dragged their teams to European and domestic success, despite not being the best teams.

All we see from Kane is excuses.
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One of the dumbest things I've read on here !
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It's what Barry does
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All of my comment was fact. Feel free to argue with the facts.
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Barry people don't read your posts and expect facts... You're just going to confuse everybody

posted on 5/5/21

comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 7 minutes ago
Hes a great player but lacks a winning mentality, he's not driven spurs on to win even a league Cup, goes missing in the biggest games and just isn't a proper leader. How's hes England captain over Henderson is a mystery.


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Caught some of the recent spurs behind the scenes documentary on Amazon and I have to say Kane didnt come across as any way inspirational in his pre match dressing room huddles.

Of course you can lead and inspire on the pitch but he didn't convey any great leadership off it looking at these behind the scenes snapshots.


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Thats what made me come to this decision, he has zero charisma and ability to inspire from what I saw. And thats fine, his job as a player is to score goals and he's brilliant at that, but he's not got the leadership characteristics IMO.

Like it was before a CL quarter final I think, a big CL game anyway, and just before they leave the dressing room he's just going come on lads, like they were going for a picnic.

posted on 5/5/21

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 15 minutes ago
Hes a great player but lacks a winning mentality, he's not driven spurs on to win even a league Cup, goes missing in the biggest games and just isn't a proper leader. How's hes England captain over Henderson is a mystery.

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Wow, what a child-like understanding you have.

If you want to make such basic assessments, why should Henderson be captain when he does not even have the bottle to score in an England penalty shootout. Talk about going missing when his country needed him.

And no, i do not believe Henderson to be a serial bottler and he would be a worthy captain, but come on, show some more advanced thinking on this before typing such nonesense.
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Its how I see it mate, Kane is a brilliant player but he's not a leader and not a winner.

A penalty miss? Come on lad thats just a ridiculous point to try make, Henderson has leadership qualities that's painfully obvious, he's not as good a player as Kane is on their respective positions though.

Not sure what's so mad about my original point to be honest.

posted on 5/5/21

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago

This is all well and good but if United come to Levy and say, "times have been tough and we've only got £60m to spend on Kane" then Levy will simply laugh in their faces.

Kane is an asset worth a huge amount to Spurs. While clubs may be in some choppy financial waters, under selling a key asset exacerbates the problem rather than helping it.

Clubs who need to sell may be more willing to lower prices. Dortmund may be run like this, but it's not part of Spurs' business model.
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You seem to have missed my conclusion:

"It's pure conjecture, but I suspect that the overall result will be conservatism in the marketplace. Buyers will be very cautious about overspending. Sellers will be loathe to let players go significantly more cheaply than a year or two ago. It could well be that Spurs would need £150 million to offset the loss of Kane, but at the same time United couldn't afford to spend more than £60 million to buy an elite striker, and the end result is that there's no deal to be done."

I'm not saying that Levy will have to adjust his valuation down. I'm saying it's quite conceivable that the gap between what United could afford and what Spurs would need can't be bridged, and Kane stays where he is.

But it's pure speculation. I plucked arbitrary numbers. I have no idea about the financial projections of the two clubs, or how they calculate the value that Kane could generate over the coming years.

We could see a completely different scenario. If (a big if) clubs are contemplating a permanent (or prolonged) downsizing of the industry, it could be that they are all facing a big problem with assets they've paid too much for and are paying too much in wages. That could have an impact on how happy they are to get highly paid players off their books, in order to replace them with more realistically valued players. Hypothetically speaking, this could both increase Spurs' willingness to sell and decrease United's interest in buying an established and expensive star rather than an upcoming, cheaper one. If they could snaffle a Haaland-while-at-Red-Bull rather than a Dortmund-Haaland or a Kane, that would be an attractive option right now. Especially if Cavani is staying for another season. And depending on Spurs' financial projections, who knows whether this could look like an attractive time to make a transfer profit and a big drop in wages while replacing a star player with a hugely promising young striker like Slavia Prague's Abdallah Sima.
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I saw it. Just dont agree. Even with an adjustment in the transfer market, that doesnt impact on the worth of key assets to clubs. Rashford's value may go from £75m to £50m but that doesn't mean Utd will look to offload him to cover losses or are more willing to sell.

If clubs are to rationalise, it will be with the fringe players who are a wage burden, or who do not deliver value for money (your Ozil's of the league) or who may be able to deliver some sale value and be replaced with younger prospects, may be even through the youth. There is a massive list of players Spurs would sell before off loading Kane regardless of finances and changes in the transfer market.

posted on 5/5/21

80-100 mill for a lad who came through the academy and has already played most of his best football is an incredible return for Levy and Spurs.

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 5/5/21

3 people value Kane between £60-108m

posted on 5/5/21

Kane would be rated higher if he didn’t play for Spurs. Same thing happened with Bale.

posted on 5/5/21

Bale went for a record fee no?

posted on 5/5/21

Guarantees 25 goals per season, and we should get 4 good seasons out of him.

posted on 5/5/21

comment by *Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 3 minutes ago
Bale went for a record fee no?
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And? Doesn’t change the point. All the criticisms levelled at Kane were very much the same with Bale.

Ultimately their biggest issues is playing for Spurs rather than a very top club. That went away when Bale left. I’m sure it’d be the same if Kane went the same route.

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